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A good landing
Rush:
--- Quote from: Bamaflyer on March 26, 2023, 08:10:02 AM ---Got it down but he needed a bit more cowbell (flare). Shame, another one that’ll be totaled and parted out.
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I think you nailed it. It’s been a long time but I’m trying to remember my soft field landing training, seem to recall, get as slow as possible before touchdown, flare and hold the nose up, up, up, up as long as possible. Is that right? Full flaps?
It does look like he kinda drove the nose straight in.
Bamaflyer:
--- Quote from: Rush on March 26, 2023, 09:09:02 AM ---I think you nailed it. It’s been a long time but I’m trying to remember my soft field landing training, seem to recall, get as slow as possible before touchdown, flare and hold the nose up, up, up, up as long as possible. Is that right? Full flaps?
It does look like he kinda drove the nose straight in.
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Pretty much, with a variable amount of power to soften the landing. But in this case he may have been just trying to make a small landing area.
Steingar:
Usually on a soft field you want to keep lots of engine power to keep the nose up, you ride the brakes to keep from rolling too fast. That said this isn't the first time I've seen an airplane nose down in the sand. It's far softer than most landing surfaces. Then again, anything happens in the air and the airplane belongs to the insurance company, my job is to get me and my pax on the ground in one undamaged piece. Looks like those guys did it very well indeed. Far easier to rebuild airplanes than people.
nddons:
--- Quote from: Steingar on March 27, 2023, 07:47:33 AM ---Usually on a soft field you want to keep lots of engine power to keep the nose up, you ride the brakes to keep from rolling too fast. That said this isn't the first time I've seen an airplane nose down in the sand. It's far softer than most landing surfaces. Then again, anything happens in the air and the airplane belongs to the insurance company, my job is to get me and my pax on the ground in one undamaged piece. Looks like those guys did it very well indeed. Far easier to rebuild airplanes than people.
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Uh, nope. You do NOT use brakes on a soft field landing, because you don’t want to get stuck in the soft field! In fact, in a normal soft field landing you keep engine power in to avoid getting stuck.
Bamaflyer:
--- Quote from: Steingar on March 27, 2023, 07:47:33 AM ---Usually on a soft field you want to keep lots of engine power to keep the nose up, you ride the brakes to keep from rolling too fast. That said this isn't the first time I've seen an airplane nose down in the sand. It's far softer than most landing surfaces. Then again, anything happens in the air and the airplane belongs to the insurance company, my job is to get me and my pax on the ground in one undamaged piece. Looks like those guys did it very well indeed. Far easier to rebuild airplanes than people.
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No, not lots of engine power to keep the nose up. Apply enough power as needed for a particular field you’re landing at. No braking is used either. One does keep the yoke in the nose high position to protect the nose gear.
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