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Spin Zone / Re: Al Gore’s New Group Demands $15 Trillion To Fight Global Warming
« on: April 25, 2017, 02:35:38 PM »Now don't laugh at our scientists.DENIER! SCIENCE HATER! RACIST!!!!!?
Most of them have triple digit IQs.
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Spin Zone / Re: Can someone explain how anyone could endorse socialism?
« on: April 18, 2017, 01:54:39 PM »Provide them with enough resources to not force them into a life of crime, and opportunities for those who are able to become productive members of society to do so.This is the biggest canard of all time. There are places around this country with more severe poverty than you will ever see in some inner cities. Yet they aren't riddled with people committed to a life of crime. Look at rural Appalachia, Mississippi, and elsewhere.
This has nothing to do with being altruistic or charitable, but acknowledging the fact that there are people who just has nothing to offer to society. Whether they are born incapable, rendered incapable, lazy or otherwise unmotivated, or have skills that are simply obsolete.
We've always had a society where there are individuals who do not contribute. We're always going to have that. We can chose to deal with them as criminals if we want, and confine them to prison or forced labor... but that costs the same as just supplying basic resources outright in the first place. If that even worked I would be all for it. But it doesn't.
In the end I just want to be left alone to live my life in peace. I don't want to be surrounded by people who have basic needs but not means - because that impacts my safety, and frankly my lifestyle. If that implies paying another 5% in taxes, then so be it. I'm either going to write them a check, or I'm going to write a check to someone else to protect me against them. But either way, they're not going to go away.
So what "resources" do the poor need that they don't have today so as to prevent them from becoming habitual criminals? More Obama phones? More TVs? More air conditioning? Relax the food stamp rules so they can buy booze?
Your line of thinking is precisely why we are $20 trillion in debt, with no end in site to deficit spending so that politicians can say "Look, we did something. Now give me your vote."
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Spin Zone / Re: Georgia 6th District
« on: April 18, 2017, 01:34:09 PM »25 Republicans, man they just cannot get out of their own way and actually focus on winning elections and governing the damn country.The GOP excels as a minority party, but they suck big time as the majority party.
Gonna be a while before I consider rejoining 'the grand old party', prevent defense playing morons.
'Gimp
When good conservatives were running against entrenched, establishment, career GOP politicians (Mississippi, for example), the GOP establishment pulled out all the stops to crush area Party candidates in favor of establishment Blue Bloods.
Now in THIS case, they can't control the number of candidates running for a stinking House seat? Fucking morons.
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Spin Zone / Re: Mother . . .
« on: April 14, 2017, 03:10:32 PM »She has a point. The occasional missile strike or bomb drop is no substitute for a cogent military strategy. I am glad to see the Taliban and their ilk get theirs, and I am all for giving the military latitude, so long as they aren't butchering civilians. But what is he actually aiming at?So what you and Lizzy want are for us to announce our battle plans for the world to see so they can change their tactics. Perfect. Nothing like announcing a surge and simultaneously announcing your withdrawal date like Obama announced to the world.
Given that its the Cheeto Jesus, that is a very hard call indeed. But dropping bombs is easy. Wining wars is quite a bit harder. How long have we been in Afghanistan? It has been called the Graveyard of Empires for good reason.
I just googled Elizabeth Warren and strategy and got nothing prior to the past few weeks. Surely such a strategist was asking the same ducking questions of Obama over the last 8 years, wasn't she?
Come to think of it, I don't recall you demanding that Obama set forth his strategy either.
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Spin Zone / Re: Kennedy May Retire Next
« on: April 12, 2017, 07:31:19 AM »
Are you kidding me? The Dems will scream like stuck pigs if Trump gets to nominate either or both of Kennedy's and Ginsburg's replacements.
I predict that Dems will try to invoke and expand the Biden Rule and say Trump has no right to get a nominee confirmed with "only" three years left in his term.
Get the popcorn out for this one.
I predict that Dems will try to invoke and expand the Biden Rule and say Trump has no right to get a nominee confirmed with "only" three years left in his term.
Get the popcorn out for this one.
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Spin Zone / Re: President Trump Bombs Syrian Poison Gas Bases
« on: April 10, 2017, 04:57:34 PM »I counted at least two messages from Trump:You're right. The better course of action would have been the status quo:
(1) "If you must kill civilians, do it by blasting their bodies to bits the way civilized people do, not by using chemical neurotoxins."
(2) "Policy? Policy!? I don't need no stinking consistent policy!"
1. Issue strongly worded condemnation.
2. Take hashtag selfie #bring back our Syrians; post on internet.
3. Join UN in anti-Israel resolution.
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Spin Zone / Re: President Trump Bombs Syrian Poison Gas Bases
« on: April 08, 2017, 01:26:12 PM »I'm convinced Putin is secretly loving this. Finally a worthy opponent.
I know I am. We have a MAN at the helm now with balls and everything. THANK GOD.
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Spin Zone / Re: Susan Rice, Obama colleagues take heat for past claims on Syria chemical weapons
« on: April 07, 2017, 12:40:52 PM »You are officially designated a sexist, racist, islamophobic, homophobe....Licifer is a subversive, isn't he?
Pleas turn yourself in for execution at your local emergency room.
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Spin Zone / Re: Gorsuch and the Senate Battle
« on: April 06, 2017, 03:12:12 PM »Change the Senate parlimentary procedures. That takes a 2/3 vote.1917? I didn't think the filibuster was around that long.
The procedure that allows this is not new. It is part of the long standing senate parlimentary procedue. What we know as the nuclear optin was first threathened in 1917, in 1975, 2013 and now it appears that politicians have finally become fanatical enough that it will be used. The option has been there for over a century. There is no on and off.
Isn't it sad that wikipedia is better informed than the entertainment media?
More importantly, if McConnell wants to keep it for legislation, that tells me it should be abolished for that as well. Let's get something done for once.
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Spin Zone / Re: North Korea; great response by Tillerson
« on: April 05, 2017, 08:21:44 AM »
Steingar just wants Tillerson to do what Obama's SecStates would do - issue a strongly worded condemnation, draw a line in the sand, do nothing, and then endorse an anti-Israel resolution in the UN.
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Spin Zone / Re: Susan Rice Ordered Unmasking of Trump
« on: April 04, 2017, 10:57:44 AM »You guys are amazing. The Russians create a giant refugee crisis by overruling our proposed intervention and then bombing civilians in Syria. Once the refugee crisis hits the EU they do everything they can to destabilize it including rigging local elections. And now that there's intel that perhaps they had a hand in rigging our election all you guys want to do is indite whoever leaked the intel. The Russians interfered in our election and you guys don't give a crap because your Cheto Jesus won. I never in my life would have believed that the GOP could be soft on the Russians. We might have won the Cold War, but Putin is winning the peace. You guys are such stooges for the Russkies, its unbelievable. And they're going to win, too. They're going to keep on rigging elections, they think Democracy is some sort of joke and you guys are the punch line. You really think the world will be more secure with an ascendant China and destabilized EU? Because that's what the Mango Man is giving you.I see Joseph McCarthy has risen from the dead. Welcome to Pilot Spin, Joe.
An Independent Prosecutor is a damn good idea. Let him or her investigate the leaks along with what got leaked. Give the counsel a broad mandate, get at the truth. This story sin't going away any time soon. Were Trump the least bit intelligent he'd bet out in front of it, but I don't expect that to happen ever. Perhaps his minions in Congress can stall long enough for the story to die, but I have doubts.
The saddest thing is I bet there is really nothing to it at all. I bet the cover-up is far worse than the crime. Flynn will only be the first victim, which is a real shame. From the sounds of it I don't think he did anything wrong. I wish they'd give him his immunity. I'd like to hear what he has to say.
You can have your inquiries all you want. Knock yourself out. And by all means start your own fucking thread about the Russians.
MY OP was about a different government - OUR government - interfering with an election, and potentially the peaceful transition of power from one administration to the next.
YOU may be OK with having a branch of the government spying on their political opponents, but I'm not. It's felonious, and people need to go to prison. Period.
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Spin Zone / Susan Rice Ordered Unmasking of Trump
« on: April 03, 2017, 11:54:31 AM »
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/3/susan-rice-ordered-unmasking-trump-team-intel-bloo/
At what point will people start going to prison for this public corruption?
Trump can start draining the swamp by having our Attorney General start charging public officials with corruption and sending them to prison. That would include Rice, Huma Abedin, Lois Lerner, etc etc.
Typical Washington comity says to let such thing go so they aren't characterized as political witch trials, ala some third world shitholes. Fuck that. Someone needs to start paying the price for political corruption.
At what point will people start going to prison for this public corruption?
Trump can start draining the swamp by having our Attorney General start charging public officials with corruption and sending them to prison. That would include Rice, Huma Abedin, Lois Lerner, etc etc.
Typical Washington comity says to let such thing go so they aren't characterized as political witch trials, ala some third world shitholes. Fuck that. Someone needs to start paying the price for political corruption.
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Spin Zone / Re: Gorsuch and the Senate Battle
« on: March 30, 2017, 11:41:01 AM »
Should the Dems take the senate in the future, the filibuster will be dead and gone as quickly as Bill could nail an intern in the oval oriface.
So it may as well be gone now so the GOP Senate can actually get something done.
So it may as well be gone now so the GOP Senate can actually get something done.
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Spin Zone / Re: Thoughts on health care in the US.
« on: March 30, 2017, 11:07:10 AM »I will now reveal my bleeding heart. I truly believe that no one should make a profit from the misery of others.Ok, Stalin. From whom will you be extracting professional medical services at the point of a gun?
The 13th Amendment generally precludes your line of thinking, but just for fun, when are you going to start giving away your services? Certainly it is unfair and a generator of great misery to saddle students with a lifetime of debt that they can never pay off just for the privilege of sitting in your class getting browbeaten with your liberal point of view. If anything is misery, I think that qualifies.
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Spin Zone / The Truth About Islam
« on: March 29, 2017, 12:22:14 PM »What I don't understand are women liberals that are silent on the treatment of Muslim women and get so outraged at the idea of fighting radical islam.Because. Abortion. Full stop.
Can you imagine if feminists railed against Muslim rape of little boys and little girls, 9 year old Muslim brides, Muslim sex slaves, Muslim genital mutilation, and Muslim assault and Muslim "honor" murders against women with just half of the outrage and marches that they have against this alleged "rape culture" that is supposed to exist in "white America's" colleges?
See Duke University.