PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: bflynn on August 03, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
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If I was Russia and I wanted to influence elections - I would not go about it by hacking anything, I would do it almost legitimately.
1) identify the battleground states and dedicate millions of dollars to renting apartments in those states - legitimate addresses.
2) I walk 2,000,000 agents into the US across the southern border, then slowly filter them to the battleground state...spread them out, don't overload any precinct so that it just looks like a higher turnout for my side.
3) The agents will create the registrations at their address
4) Before election day, they send in an absentee ballot, and then vacate the area.
Consider - each registration went through a legitimate channel. Each is a legitimate registration, created at a legitimate address. How can anyone tell if they were real or fake? Data analytics might reveal a pattern, but it won't be found until it is far too late. Odds of getting caught - virtually zero.
The crime if anyone was caught? An illegal Alien cast a vote, something Democrats are cheering for right now.
If I didn't mind being really illegal, then I would have each person create 5 registrations and then I could have 10 million votes. 10 million votes controls almost any election. Only 4 presidential elections have been won by more than 10 million votes and none since Reagan.
If I wanted to make sure I absolutely wouldn't get caught, I wouldn't do it all at once. Build it up slowly so it looks entirely legit.
Cost? depends on the state, but only about 3 months of rent + food for each vote..call it $3000. For 10 million votes, 6 billion dollars. Russia's budget is 200 billion. I think they could swing it for this. Doing it this way practically ensures that nobody will ever see it and nobody would think this was Russia - Republicans would be sure it was Democrats and vice versa. Of course this isn't an original idea because Democrats already talk about doing this.
Hypothetically speaking of course.
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The only thing that surprises me is that we haven't heard about this happening already. I have thought about that scenario before, and I think about it every time liberals try to make it legal for illegals to vote.
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I still haven't heard what exactly the Russians could have been hacking to affect the election. Facebook to post propaganda about Hillary? No specifics, just accusations.
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The entire hacking scam is all about pointing people away from the crimes of their anointed candidate, Felonious.
Once the lemming media grabbed onto it to excuse the loss of their chosen savior, it became easy for them to continue to make up shit to keep it alive.
The Manaforte trial is an excellent example of what the pathetic, scum bag, Mueller has to work with as far as crimes and misdemeanors.
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The entire hacking hoax is about “whaaa, Trump won”. They still cannot accept that the right set of people liked him slightly more and gave him the electoral win. Therefore, something must explain it or else something must be used to invalid Trump’s presidency and “correct the mistake”
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The entire hacking scam is all about pointing people away from the crimes of their anointed candidate, Felonious
Exactly, a diversion.
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I still haven't heard what exactly the Russians could have been hacking to affect the election. Facebook to post propaganda about Hillary? No specifics, just accusations.
This is the thing. Not only is the Russian hacking thing now simply a given in political speech, including from GOP politicians, I have yet to hear precisely what they did that was so terrible and illegal to warrant indictments for 6 Russians.
I feel like you and I are the only ones asking this question. It’s almost like the prevailing conclusion that came out long before the Warren commission concluded that Oswald worked alone.
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This is the thing. Not only is the Russian hacking thing now simply a given in political speech, including from GOP politicians, I have yet to hear precisely what they did that was so terrible and illegal to warrant indictments for 6 Russians.
I feel like you and I are the only ones asking this question. It’s almost like the prevailing conclusion that came out long before the Warren commission concluded that Oswald worked alone.
Summation: There is no way Hillary R Clinton could possibly lose an election, especially against a neophyte such a Donald Trump. So therefore there must be a reason, and the "Russian Collusion" provides the reason and also demonizes Trump and cast him as illegitimate.
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If said this before, but it bears repeating. We often treat Russia as somehow monolithic. While it is true that Putin rules quite like an emperor he is not the only voice in Russia.
Which means, I'm sure there were people, possibly powerful people in Russia wanting either Trump or Clinton to be elected. AFTER Trump won, all we've heard from the MSM is about any and every contact between anyone who ever met Trump, and has been to Russia, or lived there, or did business there.
Any discussion, any investigation, any mention of powers in Russia that were working for, or with, or helping Clinton have been successfully suppressed. If there are a lot of people out there who consider the entire Rosatom investigation to have been fully exposed, I have a bridge for sale in east NY. Payments routed through Canada? WTF? Blood relatives of Clinton dealing in strategic US materials? Sudden infusions of millions of $$$ into the Global Initiative? Oh - come - on. It's like as soon as there is one tiny thread of harm coming toward Clinton, it's snipped right off, the FBI, CIA, NSA have never heard of it, or know anything about it, and those involved somehow are never put in a room with a interrogator and given their Miranda. Why is that? But - we've got Mueller digging into stuff so far afield from Russian collusion(whatever that is), it's crazy.