Post by: nddons on March 29, 2016, 08:18:38 PM
My wife went to a Cruz-Fiorina rally this morning in Brookfield, and found it uplifting and hopeful for the future.
Scott Walker endorsed Ted Cruz today. Of course, that caused the petulant manchild Trump to deride Walker and Wisconsin during his rally in Janesville. I guess that's one way to get Wisconsin GOP voters. 🙄
Post by: nddons on March 29, 2016, 08:35:19 PM
Trump is making me want to vomit.
Anderson Cooper called him out on the "he started it" argument of five year olds as Trump's justification for ridiculing Heidi Cruz.
He's against nuclear proliferation, but thinks Japan and many other countries should have the bomb.
Apparently Trump's dad said "Everything Donald touches turns to gold." :rolleyes:
And when a former soldier asked Trump for the top 3 functions of the United States government. He responded "security for our nation, healthcare, education, I mean there are many many things" before saying "security, security, and security." That's quite the insight for a "Conservative." Oh, add "housing, great neighborhoods."
Post by: LevelWing on March 29, 2016, 09:10:23 PM
And when a former soldier asked Trump for the top 3 functions of the United States government. He responded "security for our nation, healthcare, education, I mean there are many many things" before saying "security, security, and security." That's quite the insight for a "Conservative." Oh, add "housing, great neighborhoods."Security aside, those are two big liberal platforms. Everyday that passes with these types of comments, with the type of culture at his rallies, it makes it more difficult for me to want to vote for him. He also said today that he won't promise to support the Republican nominee if it isn't him, going back on his pledge.
Real Clear Politics has Cruz narrowly up in the polls over Trump heading into the Wisconsin primary on April 5th:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_republican_presidential_primary-3763.html
Post by: nddons on March 29, 2016, 09:25:25 PM
Post by: Anthony on March 30, 2016, 03:41:18 AM
Post by: LevelWing on March 30, 2016, 06:13:07 AM
I used to like Kasich. Now he seems to be more of a Democrat light than a true conservative Republican.He also supported the assault weapons ban in the 1990s, so I'm not sure he's ever been a true conservative.
Post by: JeffDG on March 30, 2016, 06:14:01 AM
He also supported the assault weapons ban in the 1990s, so I'm not sure he's ever been a true conservative.I wonder, who else supported that assault weapons ban? Trying to think of it, but it's escaping me.
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 07:02:45 AM
Security aside, those are two big liberal platforms. Everyday that passes with these types of comments, with the type of culture at his rallies, it makes it more difficult for me to want to vote for him. He also said today that he won't promise to support the Republican nominee if it isn't him, going back on his pledge.
Real Clear Politics has Cruz narrowly up in the polls over Trump heading into the Wisconsin primary on April 5th:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/wi/wisconsin_republican_presidential_primary-3763.html
I wonder, who else supported that assault weapons ban? Trying to think of it, but it's escaping me.How dare you two use Trump's own words and actions against him. He's changed. He'll surround himself with the best people. The best. And nobody is more Second Amendment than Trump. I know all of this because he told me.
Post by: JeffDG on March 30, 2016, 07:03:37 AM
How dare you two use Trump's own words and actions against him. He's changed. He'll surround himself with the best people. The best. And nobody is more Second Amendment than Trump. I know all of this because he told me.It's not the "Second Amendment", it's the "Two Amendment"
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 07:17:37 AM
It's not the "Second Amendment", it's the "Two Amendment"Yep, you're right, just like Two Corinthians, as stated by someone who told an Iowa crowd:
"I love Iowa.
"And, look, I don't have to say it, I'm Presbyterian.
"Can you believe it?
"I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian.
"Boy, that's down the middle of the road, folks, in all fairness.
"I mean, Seventh Day Adventist? I don't know about that. I just don't know about."
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 07:33:58 AM
I think with the Bern keeping the dem race in play, we won't see too much crossover vote to play with the GOP primary like we've seen in prior elections (Wisconsin is an open primary.).
Post by: pilot_dude on March 30, 2016, 08:45:51 AM
I used to like Kasich. Now he seems to be more of a Democrat light than a true conservative Republican.There is no such creature holding office as a true conservative
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 09:21:41 AM
There is no such creature holding office as a true conservativeYes there is:
https://www.conservativereview.com/members/mike-lee/
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 11:09:46 AM
Cruz - 40%
Trump - 30%
Kasich - 21%
Note that in mid-February the same poll showed Trump 30%, Rubio 20%, Cruz 18%.
On the Dem side:
Sanders - 49%
Clinton - 45%
http://m.wisn.com/politics/todays-marquette-law-school-poll-shows-cruz-sanders-in-lead/38764592
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 11:27:09 AM
Post by: JeffDG on March 30, 2016, 11:37:19 AM
This poll tells me that virtually all of Rubio's supporters have gone to Cruz, and none went to Trump. It also shows that Trump seems to have a hard ceiling, as Cruz has been saying.You're obviously a tool of GOPe. GOPe has been pushing for Cruz this whole time.
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 11:45:44 AM
You're obviously a tool of GOPe. GOPe has been pushing for Cruz this whole time.Yep, the Establishment LOVES Cruz. I was going to email him and tell him he's getting a little fat from going to all those fancy 3 martini lunches at the Capital Grill with McConnell and the rest of his Senate colleagues.
Post by: Little Joe on March 30, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
This poll tells me that virtually all of Rubio's supporters have gone to Cruz, and none went to Trump. It also shows that Trump seems to have a hard ceiling, as Cruz has been saying.It also seems to show that the anti-trump crusade is working. :o
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 01:07:05 PM
It also seems to show that the anti-trump crusade is working. :oOr perhaps Trump himself is causing the anti-Trump crusade?
"Is it just me, or has there been some notable distancing going on over the past week between Donald Trump’s usually reliable cheerleaders in the conservative media and their guy? Some of Trump’s biggest promoters suddenly seem far less enthusiastic about their candidate, and shockingly, a few even appear to be testing the waters for a public withdrawal of support.
"Author and commentator Ann Coulter — who just a few months ago famously demonstrated her commitment to Trump by tweeting that she’d back him even if he performed abortions in the White House — has finally expressed some embarrassment at his conduct.
“I’m a little testy with our man right now,” Coulter told Milo Yiannopoulos (a fellow Trump supporter) on his radio show a few days ago. “Our candidate is mental! Do you realize our candidate is mental? It’s like constantly having to bail out your 16-year-old son from prison.”
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433457/donald-trump-media-flaks-hedge-their-bets
Post by: Lucifer on March 30, 2016, 01:09:39 PM
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433457/donald-trump-media-flaks-hedge-their-bets
Yes, we can rely on National Review to be unbiased.......... ::)
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 01:29:16 PM
Yes, we can rely on National Review to be unbiased.......... ::)
Are you that much in Trump's bag that you don't understand that a column such as this is an opinion piece, like pretty much 99% of the articles out in the public sphere? In such cases, being "unbiased" is not a requirement, including EVERYTHING that you post to this board.
Oh, that's right. NRO is an establishment mouthpiece and has therefore is foisting their establishment candidate Cruz on the nation. Got it. It can't POSSIBLY be that Trump could be at fault for what he says or does. The ONLY explanation is that someone is trying to "get" Trump.
Trump's communications guy gets charged? It's a democrat conspiracy against Trump.
Trump posts a tweet belittling Heidi Cruz? "I didn't start it, Lyin' Ted did."
How is it that Trump is inoculated against ANYTHING negative that may come via his own words or actions?
Post by: Little Joe on March 30, 2016, 01:41:11 PM
Are you that much in Trump's bag that you don't understand that a column such as this is an opinion piece, like pretty much 99% of the articles out in the public sphere? In such cases, being "unbiased" is not a requirement, including EVERYTHING that you post to this board.Because when the barrage of negative attacks is so intense and so organized that it is hard to tell what is true and/or what is relevant. I read a hit piece on him the other day that attacked him as a horrible landlord because in 1980 he tried to get people to move out of his rent-controlled building. I don't know about you, but I have a problem with the whole concept of rent control. And those people wouldn't accept very generous offers to move.
Oh, that's right. NRO is an establishment mouthpiece and has therefore is foisting their establishment candidate Cruz on the nation. Got it. It can't POSSIBLY be that Trump could be at fault for what he says or does. The ONLY explanation is that someone is trying to "get" Trump.
Trump's communications guy gets charged? It's a democrat conspiracy against Trump.
Trump posts a tweet belittling Heidi Cruz? "I didn't start it, Lyin' Ted did."
How is it that Trump is inoculated against ANYTHING negative that may come via his own words or actions?
That was 35 years ago, but it wasn't too deep for someone to dig it up. If the onslaught wasn't so intense, his defenders wouldn't have to fight back so hard. Politics is a nasty business, and the higher up the food chain, the nastier it gets. This is exactly the reason we don't have any really good people running. It takes a certain type of power hungry masochist to put up with it.
If the crusade works, just wait until the press digs into Cruz. I'll bet they have a picture of him picking his nose in 4th grade.
Post by: Lucifer on March 30, 2016, 01:48:39 PM
Are you that much in Trump's bag that you don't understand that a column such as this is an opinion piece, like pretty much 99% of the articles out in the public sphere? In such cases, being "unbiased" is not a requirement, including EVERYTHING that you post to this board.
Oh, that's right. NRO is an establishment mouthpiece and has therefore is foisting their establishment candidate Cruz on the nation. Got it. It can't POSSIBLY be that Trump could be at fault for what he says or does. The ONLY explanation is that someone is trying to "get" Trump.
Trump's communications guy gets charged? It's a democrat conspiracy against Trump.
Trump posts a tweet belittling Heidi Cruz? "I didn't start it, Lyin' Ted did."
How is it that Trump is inoculated against ANYTHING negative that may come via his own words or actions?
I'm not in anybody's bag, but I do realize that a rag such as your beloved National Review is a highly biased publication and demonstrates it in every issue.
Now go back and worship at the alter of Bill Kristol,George Will and Karl Rove.
Post by: Lucifer on March 30, 2016, 01:53:31 PM
Because when the barrage of negative attacks is so intense and so organized that it is hard to tell what is true and/or what is relevant. I read a hit piece on him the other day that attacked him as a horrible landlord because in 1980 he tried to get people to move out of his rent-controlled building. I don't know about you, but I have a problem with the whole concept of rent control. And those people wouldn't accept very generous offers to move.
That was 35 years ago, but it wasn't too deep for someone to dig it up. If the onslaught wasn't so intense, his defenders wouldn't have to fight back so hard. Politics is a nasty business, and the higher up the food chain, the nastier it gets. This is exactly the reason we don't have any really good people running. It takes a certain type of power hungry masochist to put up with it.
If the crusade works, just wait until the press digs into Cruz. I'll bet they have a picture of him picking his nose in 4th grade.
Very well stated.
What the Cruz supporters fail to realize is that once Trump is out of the way, the GOP has no need for Cruz either. If anyone is foolish enough to believe the GOP/RNC will get behind a Cruz campaign I have a really nice bridge to sell them.
Post by: Little Joe on March 30, 2016, 02:14:08 PM
Very well stated.Exactly. Unless Cruz can somehow garner enough electoral votes to wrap it up on the first vote (which is practically impossible), he is toast. There is no way the GOP will select either Trump or Cruz in a brokered convention. Kasich has a better chance than Cruz. Only Trump has a legitimate chance to wrap it up and avoid a bloody GOP catastrophe.
What the Cruz supporters fail to realize is that once Trump is out of the way, the GOP has no need for Cruz either. If anyone is foolish enough to believe the GOP/RNC will get behind a Cruz campaign I have a really nice bridge to sell them.
Post by: pilot_dude on March 30, 2016, 02:29:09 PM
Yes there is:I stand corrected, 0.5% of the US senators are true conservatives. That's change looking for a place to happen :o
https://www.conservativereview.com/members/mike-lee/
Post by: asechrest on March 30, 2016, 04:01:52 PM
It's like the Twilight Zone in here. Republicans arguing about the bias of National Review. Isn't that my job? :D
Post by: Mase on March 30, 2016, 04:13:13 PM
It's like the Twilight Zone in here. Republicans arguing about the bias of National Review. Isn't that my job? :D
Aren't you just supposed to laugh and laugh at the self-destructing circular firing squad and then go off and vote for Hillary?
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 04:16:15 PM
Aren't you just supposed to laugh and laugh at the self-destructing circular firing squad and then go off and vote for Hillary?Yep. No disunity in the Democrat party. An ancient Socialist and an ancient, lying, far-left Liberal vying for the same office. What could go wrong?
Post by: Anthony on March 30, 2016, 04:32:35 PM
Yep. No disunity in the Democrat party. An ancient Socialist and an ancient, lying, far-left Liberal vying for the same office. What could go wrong?
Bernie and Hillary are the same candidate. Both are far left fasco-communists that want a centralized totalitarian state while lying to the indoctrinated masses that they will look out for them. Ha. What a freakin joke. They only care about their own wealth an power while being puppets of the Soros's of the world. How pathetic.
Post by: nddons on March 30, 2016, 04:59:13 PM
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 31, 2016, 08:25:50 AM
A new Marquette Law School poll has just been released. In a poll of likely voters, it shows:
Cruz - 40%
Trump - 30%
Kasich - 21%
Note that in mid-February the same poll showed Trump 30%, Rubio 20%, Cruz 18%.
On the Dem side:
Sanders - 49%
Clinton - 45%
http://m.wisn.com/politics/todays-marquette-law-school-poll-shows-cruz-sanders-in-lead/38764592 (http://m.wisn.com/politics/todays-marquette-law-school-poll-shows-cruz-sanders-in-lead/38764592)
Yep Cruz is going to wipe Trump out in Wisconsin. Oh wait, they polled 471 people and the margin of error is +/- 5/8%
That's a solid poll if I ever saw one.....or more likely we polled people until we got the result we wanted and figured no one would look at the internals. ;)
Post by: nddons on March 31, 2016, 08:38:33 AM
Yep Cruz is going to wipe Trump out in Wisconsin. Oh wait, they polled 471 people and the margin of error is +/- 5/8%Oh, that's right. It's NEVER Trump; it's ALWAYS someone not treating Trump "fairly." :rolleyes:
That's a solid poll if I ever saw one.....or more likely we polled people until we got the result we wanted and figured no one would look at the internals. ;)
The Marquette poll is known here in Wisconsin as not being favorable to Republicans, and is also known as being quite accurate.
This is from a 2 second search:
http://m.wisn.com/politics/Marquette-gains-notoriety-for-accurate-political-polls/17317674
MADISON, Wis. -
Wisconsin's electoral votes went to Democrat Barack Obama, yet most state races went to Republicans. And while the state's track record of voting may appear confusing, one man has been demonstrating with amazing accuracy that he knows how Wisconsin will vote long before the polls open.
Nearly a week ahead of the election, Marquette University polling director Charles Franklin predicted that President Obama would win the state by 8 percentage points.
He won by seven.
Franklin's Marquette University Law School Poll also said that Democrat Tammy Baldwin would win the U.S. Senate race by 4 points.
She won by 5.
"We were pretty close on both of those," Franklin said in an interview with WISN 12 reporter Mike Anderson.
Franklin is home in Madison on Wednesday, a day after spending election night in New York as a consultant for ABC News. He said fairness and honesty lead to accuracy and that is why the Marquette poll is gaining respect across the country.
"Rather than starting out with a predefined idea that I need so many liberals and so many Republicans and so many religious people, instead it's the equal chance of being selected that lets everybody have a fair chance at an equal chance at being selected into the sample," he said.
Franklin said the university's poll uses live interviews where many others do not. He said they also use both landlines and cellphone numbers to reach 700 eligible voters for each poll, and the questions go beyond candidate's names.
“This is by far the most extensive polling of the state ever,” said Franklin. “Politics is never short of spin, and our goal is to produce information about what citizens think about politics and public policy in Wisconsin without spin.”
Post by: nddons on April 02, 2016, 02:01:31 PM
And when a former soldier asked Trump for the top 3 functions of the United States government. He responded "security for our nation, healthcare, education, I mean there are many many things" before saying "security, security, and security." That's quite the insight for a "Conservative." Oh, add "housing, great neighborhoods."
Bump.
I'm surprised no one else except LevelWing seems to have a problem with Trump's take on the role of the federal government.
Post by: nddons on April 03, 2016, 08:51:53 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/04/03/will_wisconsin_be_trumps_waterloo_130174.html
Trump made a strategic error by shitting on our Governor, who so many of us worked so hard to keep in office through 3 elections in four years.
Post by: nddons on April 03, 2016, 09:47:14 AM
Reports are there were zip, zero, nada applause for her until 15 minutes into her 19 minute speech.
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/04/02/sarah-palin/
Post by: Dav8or on April 03, 2016, 11:03:03 AM
Bump.
I'm surprised no one else except LevelWing seems to have a problem with Trump's take on the role of the federal government.
I have a problem with Trump in general. This quote is probably the least of the problems.
Post by: Lucifer on April 03, 2016, 06:22:29 PM
Will Wisconsin be Trump's Waterloo?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2016/04/03/will_wisconsin_be_trumps_waterloo_130174.html
Trump made a strategic error by shitting on our Governor, who so many of us worked so hard to keep in office through 3 elections in four years.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/april-cruzs-last-hurrah/
Post by: Lucifer on April 03, 2016, 06:25:04 PM
Sarah Palin utterly bombed at a Milwaukee County GOP dinner in Friday night. Cruz and Kasich were there, but Trump sent Palin.
Reports are there were zip, zero, nada applause for her until 15 minutes into her 19 minute speech.
http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/04/02/sarah-palin/
Yes, Sara Palin, another Republican that the GOP shit all over when the establishment decided they didn't like her.
With friends like the GOP establishment who needs enemies?
Post by: Dav8or on April 03, 2016, 07:19:46 PM
Yes, Sara Palin, another Republican that the GOP shit all over when the establishment decided they didn't like her.
With friends like the GOP establishment who needs enemies?
Sorry, she crapped all over herself.
Post by: Lucifer on April 03, 2016, 07:30:01 PM
Sorry, she crapped all over herself.
Disagree.
She was another "outsider" that didn't sit well with the inside beltway crowd. The GOP was already running a lackluster Presidential candidate and when he picked Palin for VP, rather than support and help her the establishment folded their arms and did nothing.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 07:26:20 AM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/04/april-cruzs-last-hurrah/Ah, another article that is attempting to imply that not giving Trump the nomination because he only has a plurality and not a majority of the delegates is "unfair," right?
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 07:32:09 AM
Yes, Sara Palin, another Republican that the GOP shit all over when the establishment decided they didn't like her.Nope. She chose to hitch her wagon to a candidate who criticized the very governor that has extremely high support among conservatives, and who said that Scott Walker should have raised taxes - the same governor that many of us walked through the fire for in his 3 elections in 4 years.
With friends like the GOP establishment who needs enemies?
This Tea Party governor shoes to hitch her wagon to the least conservative candidate in the race. And she got called on it at Friday's dinner.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 07:42:13 AM
Ah, another article that is attempting to imply that not giving Trump the nomination because he only has a plurality and not a majority of the delegates is "unfair," right?
Your reading comprehension sucks.
The article analyzes how Cruz is unable to get the required delegates by using a concept called "math". Cruz has no mathematical way to achieve the number of delegates or even come in ahead of Trump.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 07:44:19 AM
Nope. She chose to hitch her wagon to a candidate who criticized the very governor that has extremely high support among conservatives, and who said that Scott Walker should have raised taxes - the same governor that many of us walked through the fire for in his 3 elections in 4 years.
This Tea Party governor shoes to hitch her wagon to the least conservative candidate in the race. And she got called on it at Friday's dinner.
So you are denying that the GOP/RNC screwed her over when she ran with McCain?
Post by: JeffDG on April 04, 2016, 07:49:53 AM
So you are denying that the GOP/RNC screwed her over when she ran with McCain?Yeah, they sure screwed her over by spending 6 figures on clothes and stuff for her to look better...yep, that was sure a repudiation there.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 08:01:23 AM
Your reading comprehension sucks.That's my point. It is likely that Trump will not get the majority of delegates. The rules state that if that happens, then it becomes an open convention.
The article analyzes how Cruz is unable to get the required delegates by using a concept called "math". Cruz has no mathematical way to achieve the number of delegates or even come in ahead of Trump.
Speaking of math, I think Trump doesn't understand what the word "majority" means:
"On March 10 in Miami, during the most recent Republican debate, Trump gave us a glimpse into how he plans to win this final, most obstinate battle. "I think whoever gets to the top position as opposed to solving that artificial number that was by somebody, which is a very random number, I think that whoever gets the most delegates should win.""
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/273851-1237-is-not-an-artificial-number-mr-trump
Also:
"This is a very shrewd move by Trump. Pounding away at the validity of long-ago-agreed-upon minimum qualifiers weakens the threshold's significance. "Who cares about the finish line, Trump won!" his supporters are claiming. In recent days, Trump has taken the argument to its logical next step. "I think we'll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you, if we didn't and if we're 20 votes short or if we're 100 short and we're at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we're way ahead of everybody, I don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. I think it would be — I think you'd have riots. I think you'd have riots," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on March 16."
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 08:08:24 AM
So you are denying that the GOP/RNC screwed her over when she ran with McCain?I liked her back then, and yes, the establishment jettisoned her when she was no longer valuable.
I also think that your assertion has precisely ZERO relevance to her current abandonment of Conservative principles by attaching herself to a celebrity candidate. The 750 Milwaukee Republicans didn't think she was funny on Friday, and also had disdain for her because of her electoral choices THIS YEAR.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 08:10:24 AM
That's my point. It is likely that Trump will not get the majority of delegates. The rules state that if that happens, then it becomes an open convention.
Speaking of math, I think Trump doesn't understand what the word "majority" means:
"On March 10 in Miami, during the most recent Republican debate, Trump gave us a glimpse into how he plans to win this final, most obstinate battle. "I think whoever gets to the top position as opposed to solving that artificial number that was by somebody, which is a very random number, I think that whoever gets the most delegates should win.""
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/273851-1237-is-not-an-artificial-number-mr-trump
Also:
"This is a very shrewd move by Trump. Pounding away at the validity of long-ago-agreed-upon minimum qualifiers weakens the threshold's significance. "Who cares about the finish line, Trump won!" his supporters are claiming. In recent days, Trump has taken the argument to its logical next step. "I think we'll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you, if we didn't and if we're 20 votes short or if we're 100 short and we're at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we're way ahead of everybody, I don't think you can say that we don't get it automatically. I think it would be — I think you'd have riots. I think you'd have riots," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on March 16."
The article was about (mainly) that Cruz can't get the nomination by going over the minimum required delegates. In fact he will fall way behind Trump. Cruz is desperately hoping on the second or third ballot he will get enough delegates to put him over the top. Ain't gonna happen.
Trump likely will not receive the minimum required either, opening the door for the RNC to kick both Cruz and Trump to the curb so they can place their own candidate in. Right now that looks like Ryan but I wouldn't be surprised if Jeb Bush reappears. Either way the RNC will implode itself.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 08:15:25 AM
I liked her back then, and yes, the establishment jettisoned her when she was no longer valuable.
I also think that your assertion has precisely ZERO relevance to her current abandonment of Conservative principles by attaching herself to a celebrity candidate. The 750 Milwaukee Republicans didn't think she was funny on Friday, and also had disdain for her because of her electoral choices THIS YEAR.
Thanks for acknowledging that. My point is the RNC eats their own when they "are no longer valuable" as you put it.
And I don't blame her or anyone else for abandoning conservative principles especially when those so called principles are connected to the crooks and liars of the RNC. The RNC/GOP is in a race to the bottom as we speak, and come November it will be a spectacular failure.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 08:24:58 AM
The article was about (mainly) that Cruz can't get the nomination by going over the minimum required delegates. In fact he will fall way behind Trump. Cruz is desperately hoping on the second or third ballot he will get enough delegates to put him over the top. Ain't gonna happen.And why can't Cruz get it on subsequent ballots? Lincoln got the nomination in the 3rd ballot.
Trump likely will not receive the minimum required either, opening the door for the RNC to kick both Cruz and Trump to the curb so they can place their own candidate in. Right now that looks like Ryan but I wouldn't be surprised if Jeb Bush reappears. Either way the RNC will implode itself.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 08:29:49 AM
And why can't Cruz get it on subsequent ballots? Lincoln got the nomination in the 3rd ballot.
Oh c'mon now. Do you REALLY think the RNC/GOP want Cruz? They are going to kick him to the curb just like Trump. The RNC is maneuvering to get one of their own on the ticket, and Cruz is not in that group. Right now they are just using Cruz to block Trump.
As you said earlier, once he is no longer valuable to them then he is gone as well.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 08:30:05 AM
Thanks for acknowledging that. My point is the RNC eats their own when they "are no longer valuable" as you put it.No, conservative principles are not "connected" to the RNC/GOP. I'm not sure what world you have been living in, but the establishment has demonstrated that they are capable of completely abandoning such principles if it helps them get reelected.
And I don't blame her or anyone else for abandoning conservative principles especially when those so called principles are connected to the crooks and liars of the RNC. The RNC/GOP is in a race to the bottom as we speak, and come November it will be a spectacular failure.
Such principles are "principles" for a reason - they are a foundation for political beliefs. Unfortunately, Donald Trump is totally unmoored from such principles, so he is much more closely aligned with the GOP establishment than Ted Cruz.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 08:40:27 AM
No, conservative principles are not "connected" to the RNC/GOP. I'm not sure what world you have been living in, but the establishment has demonstrated that they are capable of completely abandoning such principles if it helps them get reelected.
Thanks again for acknowledging that.
Such principles are "principles" for a reason - they are a foundation for political beliefs. Unfortunately, Donald Trump is totally unmoored from such principles, so he is much more closely aligned with the GOP establishment than Ted Cruz.
So why is the establishment trying to dump him (Trump) if he is "aligned with the GOP"?
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 08:45:04 AM
Thanks again for acknowledging that.I said he was aligned with the GOP when it comes to not having conservative principles. Don't read more into that than what I said.
So why is the establishment trying to dump him (Trump) if he is "aligned with the GOP"?
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 08:57:42 AM
I said he was aligned with the GOP when it comes to not having conservative principles. Don't read more into that than what I said.
So the GOP establishment doesn't have conservative principles and they are totally against a candidate that also lacks these principles but which, as you claim, are more closely aligned with him (Trump) principle speaking? :o
So why the hatred of Trump if he and the GOP are aligned? After all, isn't he bringing more people into the party as the GOP/RNC has previously stated would be needed to win an election?
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 09:03:10 AM
So the GOP establishment doesn't have conservative principles and they are totally against a candidate that also lacks these principles but which, as you claim, are more closely aligned with him (Trump) principle speaking? :oVirtually every poll has Trump losing by double digits to Hillary. A bloodbath like that will also probably lose the Senate and could even turn the House.
So why the hatred of Trump if he and the GOP are aligned? After all, isn't he bringing more people into the party as the GOP/RNC has previously stated would be needed to win an election?
The GOP establishment is despicable, but they're not stupid.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 09:09:15 AM
Virtually every poll has Trump losing by double digits to Hillary. A bloodbath like that will also probably lose the Senate and could even turn the House.
The GOP establishment is despicable, but they're not stupid.
You're dodging the question.
As far as not being stupid, they ran McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012. This year they are sticking their middle finger at the voters and willing to throw the election to put in "their choice".
Sounds like stupid to me.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 09:22:08 AM
You're dodging the question.That's not a dodge. That's why they don't want Trump. You may not like my answer, but that's what I believe.
As far as not being stupid, they ran McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012. This year they are sticking their middle finger at the voters and willing to throw the election to put in "their choice".
Sounds like stupid to me.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 04, 2016, 10:20:55 AM
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 11:00:54 AM
The media and no-information voters screwed her
True, but the RNC stood back and let them because of their disdain for her.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 01:47:42 PM
Virtually every poll has Trump losing by double digits to Hillary. A bloodbath like that will also probably lose the Senate and could even turn the House.This is why I believe Cruz is in play in an open nomination fight:
The GOP establishment is despicable, but they're not stupid.
"It now seems clear that Ted Cruz had a plan in place in virtually every state to help pack every available bound delegate slot with a delegate who was not personally loyal to Trump. The idea behind this was to create a cadre of delegates who would be bound to Trump on the first ballot, but loyal to Cruz (or at least someone else) on the second ballot of a potentially contested convention.
"Even if Cruz isn't able to plant enough of these people at the convention to get him to 1,237 on the second (or third) ballot, the optics of Trump hemorrhaging delegates every round will be a tremendous advantage to the not-Trump faction at the convention.
"See, what Cruz is doing is what's known as "contingency planning." Obviously, good leaders always want to have their "Plan A" work, where possible. but good leaders know that this doesn't always (or even almost always) happen, so they have "Plan B" ready in case "Plan A" goes sideways, and probably a Plan C or Plan D for good measure.
"Bad, incompetent leaders only have a Plan A, and if and when Plan A goes wrong, they just whine about how they were treated unfairly. That's Trump. Good leaders hope for the best but plan for the worst. That's especially true involving any plan that depends on human beings to act/vote in a certain way. It turns out, human beings can't always be controlled or even predicted."
http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/04/04/ted-cruzs-delegate-game-shows-hed-better-president-trump/
Post by: Number7 on April 04, 2016, 01:51:17 PM
So you are denying that the GOP/RNC screwed her over when she ran with McCain?
I thought the RNC were working for the Obama Campaign in 2008, not McCain.
It WAS that bad.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 01:57:30 PM
I thought the RNC were working for the Obama Campaign in 2008, not McCain.Hell, I think McCain was working for the Obama campaign. HE was that bad, refusing to attack his opponent. Ditto for Romney after the 1st debate, which he won decisively.
It WAS that bad.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 04, 2016, 06:48:29 PM
The GOP establishment is despicable, but they're not stupid.
McCain and Romney kind of prove otherwise.
Post by: Lucifer on April 04, 2016, 06:59:47 PM
McCain and Romney kind of prove otherwise.
And putting Priebus in charge.
Post by: Dav8or on April 04, 2016, 07:10:35 PM
Disagree.
She was another "outsider" that didn't sit well with the inside beltway crowd. The GOP was already running a lackluster Presidential candidate and when he picked Palin for VP, rather than support and help her the establishment folded their arms and did nothing.
Fair enough, you disagree. However from my perspective, she gave one awesome speech and really impressed me and there after said and did a whole lot of dumb stuff. I also give her low marks for quitting her job that she promised to do for the folks in Alaska just for her own personal gain. I really don't think the "establishment" (is it just me that is getting really sick of hearing this word these days?) did any kind of hit job on her, I think she did it all on her own.
Post by: Dav8or on April 04, 2016, 07:32:30 PM
McCain and Romney kind of prove otherwise.
Hmmmm... didn't Donald Trump run back in 2012? I think he has.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/16/donald-trump-us-presidential-race (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/16/donald-trump-us-presidential-race)
I love this bit from the article linked-
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Faced with the choice of hosting The Apprentice or taking on Barack Obama in next year's election, Donald Trump opted to stick with his television programme.
You guys that actually believe Trump is in the running for the good of the people seriously crack me up! Trump bailed out because back then he was viewed as the joke he is and nobody was that "angry at the establishment".
It was close, but Romney was projected to be in the win until the now famous covert cell phone video of him explaining campaign strategy. If there is anyone here that disagrees with what was said in that video, I'd love to hear it.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 07:48:22 PM
McCain and Romney kind of prove otherwise.There were some good candidates running in those elections. The voters didn't vote for them. What did the GOP establishment do to force McCain and Romney as our candidates?
Post by: asechrest on April 04, 2016, 08:08:14 PM
Fair enough, you disagree. However from my perspective, she gave one awesome speech and really impressed me and there after said and did a whole lot of dumb stuff. I also give her low marks for quitting her job that she promised to do for the folks in Alaska just for her own personal gain. I really don't think the "establishment" (is it just me that is getting really sick of hearing this word these days?) did any kind of hit job on her, I think she did it all on her own.
Luckily, she landed well, now that she's slated to get a new show: Judge Palin (http://www.people.com/article/sarah-palin-tv-judge-show). I don't know about you, but I'm a fairly big fan of watching a non-judge do lots of judging.
Post by: JeffDG on April 04, 2016, 08:53:04 PM
Luckily, she landed well, now that she's slated to get a new show: Judge Palin (http://www.people.com/article/sarah-palin-tv-judge-show). I don't know about you, but I'm a fairly big fan of watching a non-judge do lots of judging.They'll keep her busy just with her own family.
Post by: nddons on April 04, 2016, 09:03:57 PM
They'll keep her busy just with her own family.Well played, sir!
[Commence polite golf clap]. 😉
Post by: nddons on April 05, 2016, 07:03:47 AM
I went to my polling place but the lines were too long for me to risk missing a client call at 8:30. That's a good sign. I'll vote tonight.
Post by: nddons on April 05, 2016, 07:30:00 AM
It sounds like Hillary is feelin' the Bern.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 05, 2016, 08:59:41 AM
Post by: nddons on April 05, 2016, 09:24:37 AM
Post by: jb1842 on April 05, 2016, 09:37:13 AM
Post by: nddons on April 05, 2016, 10:10:16 AM
I still don't know who I'm going to vote for. I really wonder if it will even matter in the long run.Is this Josh with the 150?
Post by: nddons on April 05, 2016, 10:25:39 AM
In the 2012 Primary election my town had a 38% turnout with 1,171 voters. It will be interesting to see the numbers tonight.My wife voted at 11:30 today and she was voter 962. By the way, we live in the reddest county in Wisconsin, though we do see the occasional Bernie sign from some subversives.
Post by: jb1842 on April 05, 2016, 11:01:38 AM
Is this Josh with the 150?
It's me. My gut says Cruz, but I want to vote for Trump because it's fun to see people's heads explode over him.
Post by: nddons on April 05, 2016, 11:11:17 AM
It's me. My gut says Cruz, but I want to vote for Trump because it's fun to see people's heads explode over him.It's great to see you here, Josh. Are you doing any flying in this great spring Wx? (Sunday's high was 65 and sunny; Monday's high was 35 with snow.).
As for your decision: follow your gut.
Post by: jb1842 on April 05, 2016, 11:13:38 AM
It's great to see you here, Josh. Are you doing any flying in this great spring Wx? (Sunday's high was 65 and sunny; Monday's high was 35 with snow.).
As for your decision: follow your gut.
Haven't flown in almost 9 months. Hurt my back at work last summer. Broken vertebrae and severe whiplash. Long recovery. Just got medically cleared last month. Need to get an annual done and get up there. Hopefully soon. Taking a trip down to Wag Aero on friday to get a new battery and a few other things.
Post by: Little Joe on April 05, 2016, 12:05:55 PM
It's me. My gut says Cruz, but I want to vote for Trump because it's fun to see people's heads explode over him.Welcome to the back porch of Aviation!
And I think I"m going to steal you line about voting for Trump. Especially with my in-laws.
Post by: nddons on April 05, 2016, 12:10:31 PM
Haven't flown in almost 9 months. Hurt my back at work last summer. Broken vertebrae and severe whiplash. Long recovery. Just got medically cleared last month. Need to get an annual done and get up there. Hopefully soon. Taking a trip down to Wag Aero on friday to get a new battery and a few other things.Yikes. I've got a sore back too, from sitting too much in tax season, and lifting a little too much at the gym. I think our jobs are equally dangerous.
Seriously, good luck with that. Back pain absolutely sucks.
Post by: jb1842 on April 05, 2016, 12:16:14 PM
Yikes. I've got a sore back too, from sitting too much in tax season, and lifting a little too much at the gym. I think our jobs are equally dangerous.
Seriously, good luck with that. Back pain absolutely sucks.
I still have a small knot that bothers me from time to time. Doc thinks that will probably come and go for the rest of my life. Another thing to add to the bum knee and shoulder I already have. I've been trying to use the rowing machine more for exercise lately, but I have been sitting a lot too.
Post by: LevelWing on April 05, 2016, 07:30:31 PM
http://www.politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/wisconsin?lo=ut_d1
Post by: nddons on April 06, 2016, 04:54:48 AM
Post by: nddons on April 06, 2016, 05:03:32 AM
“Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again,” it said. “Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but [Cruz] was coordinating with his own super PACs (which is illegal) who totally control him.”
Post by: Little Joe on April 06, 2016, 05:09:11 AM
Trump, losing with class yet again:Classless? Maybe.
“Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again,” it said. “Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but [Cruz] was coordinating with his own super PACs (which is illegal) who totally control him.”
But was it true? It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Post by: JeffDG on April 06, 2016, 05:13:14 AM
Trump, losing with class yet again:And Trumpy want's to rewrite libel laws, while at the same time accusing someone of a federal crime with zero evidence.
“Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again,” it said. “Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but [Cruz] was coordinating with his own super PACs (which is illegal) who totally control him.”
Post by: Anthony on April 06, 2016, 06:10:08 AM
Post by: Lucifer on April 06, 2016, 06:23:20 AM
The state of our country's politicians, and political process is disgusting. When we can have people like Trump, who speaks the way he does, and Bernie and Hillary who are just anti American Communists it is ridiculous. Cruz may b e OK, I don't know. I am very disenchanted at this point.
Pull back the curtain and look at the people pulling the strings. The 2 major parties are largely responsible for the state of the elections as we see it today. The DNC has rigged the nomination process to coronate Hillary and the RNC is in total disarray under Priebus. The backlash vote is fueling the Sanders and Trump campaigns.
A lot is at stake here with the elites desperate to retain their power bases inside the beltway.
Post by: nddons on April 06, 2016, 06:52:13 AM
Classless? Maybe.Right. It can't POSSIBLY be Trump himself, can it? He's FABULOUS, and he's THE DONALD. If he wanted to win Wisconsin, he could have, right?
But was it true? It wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Post by: Anthony on April 06, 2016, 06:56:10 AM
Pull back the curtain and look at the people pulling the strings. The 2 major parties are largely responsible for the state of the elections as we see it today. The DNC has rigged the nomination process to coronate Hillary and the RNC is in total disarray under Priebus. The backlash vote is fueling the Sanders and Trump campaigns.
A lot is at stake here with the elites desperate to retain their power bases inside the beltway.
I would never do it, but I know many that are ready to pick up a rifle. I am dedicated to try to fix this country through the ballot box, but I don't see anyone worth voting for at this point. I will pull the R lever, but reluctantly. Where are the Reagans? Where are the JFK's? Where are the Trumans?
Some time ago I read David McCullough's book "1776". I had NO ideas that we struggled like we did. Washington was a true leader. We now have a cadre of those that just want to feed the FREE SH*T ARMY, and buy votes.
Post by: Lucifer on April 06, 2016, 07:10:34 AM
I would never do it, but I know many that are ready to pick up a rifle. I am dedicated to try to fix this country through the ballot box, but I don't see anyone worth voting for at this point. I will pull the R lever, but reluctantly. Where are the Reagans? Where are the JFK's? Where are the Trumans?
Some time ago I read David McCullough's book "1776". I had NO ideas that we struggled like we did. Washington was a true leader. We now have a cadre of those that just want to feed the FREE SH*T ARMY, and buy votes.
There ya go. In today's two party system we are saddled with politicians that have learned to buy votes with taxpayer money. These politicians have also learned to buy influence using the taxpayer money as well.
Post by: LevelWing on April 06, 2016, 07:18:23 AM
Trump, losing with class yet again:I saw that as well. He's a very sore loser and he's only getting worse the further on we go. He just accused Cruz of a federal election violation with absolutely zero proof.
“Donald J. Trump withstood the onslaught of the establishment yet again,” it said. “Lyin’ Ted Cruz had the governor of Wisconsin, many conservative talk radio show hosts, and the entire party apparatus behind him. Not only was he propelled by the anti-Trump super PAC’s spending countless millions of dollars on false advertising against Mr. Trump, but [Cruz] was coordinating with his own super PACs (which is illegal) who totally control him.”
Post by: nddons on April 06, 2016, 07:29:28 AM
I would never do it, but I know many that are ready to pick up a rifle. I am dedicated to try to fix this country through the ballot box, but I don't see anyone worth voting for at this point. I will pull the R lever, but reluctantly. Where are the Reagans? Where are the JFK's? Where are the Trumans?Washington remained largely silent during the debates at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia. He did so because he knew that he was influential enough that anything he said could sway the debates, and he wanted the debates to play out themselves.
Some time ago I read David McCullough's book "1776". I had NO ideas that we struggled like we did. Washington was a true leader. We now have a cadre of those that just want to feed the FREE SH*T ARMY, and buy votes.
That's a leader.
Obviously they didn't have C-SPAN in Independence Hall, or George would have been mugging for the cameras.
But don't despair, Anthony. Cruz isn't perfect, but I think he's is the most conservative candidate that we've had since 1984.
Interestingly, in speaking to my state senator, Chris Kapenga, he is representing Wisconsin at The Assembly of State Legislatures, which is a group drafting rules for an Article V Convention of the States. They are meeting again in June in Philadelphia, and hope to have the rules complete at the conclusion of the meeting and will sign them in Independence Hall.
Good things are in the horizon.
http://www.assemblystatelegislatures.com
Post by: Anthony on April 06, 2016, 08:16:24 AM
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 06, 2016, 08:26:09 AM
Do they think the Soviet Union was perfection?
I wonder how many blame the USA for the demise of the USSR uptopia?
Post by: Little Joe on April 06, 2016, 08:29:14 AM
Right. It can't POSSIBLY be Trump himself, can it? He's FABULOUS, and he's THE DONALD. If he wanted to win Wisconsin, he could have, right?This from someone that automatically dismisses anything Trump says and automatically sides with anything Cruz says.
They will both say whatever they think they need to, but Trump is a little less encumbered with what he NEEDS to say.
By the way, how does Cruz explain his name showing up in Deborah Palfrey's little black book?
(Not that a little philandering is a bad thing in a President). ::)
Post by: Anthony on April 06, 2016, 08:30:52 AM
I wonder how many blame the USA for the demise of the USSR uptopia?
We were partially responsible for their demise. Reagan helped. Also, they had a decent leader in Gorby I think. He knew they couldn't keep going. I wish there were another Gorby. Putin is more like Stalin.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 06, 2016, 08:39:34 AM
We were partially responsible for their demise. Reagan helped. Also, they had a decent leader in Gorby I think. He knew they couldn't keep going. I wish there were another Gorby. Putin is more like Stalin.
Understand the role the USA played. But I think you missed the point of the question...
Post by: Anthony on April 06, 2016, 08:42:08 AM
Understand the role the USA played. But I think you missed the point of the question...
I don't think the USSR was considered a utopia. Lines for toilet paper, etc. I don't understand your point.
Post by: Little Joe on April 06, 2016, 08:45:49 AM
I don't think the USSR was considered a utopia. Lines for toilet paper, etc. I don't understand your point.You have me a little confused. Have you never heard that Communism == Utopia? (at least in the minds or liberals).
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 06, 2016, 08:46:31 AM
I don't think the USSR was considered a utopia. Lines for toilet paper, etc. I don't understand your point.
You asked if people thought the Soviet Union was perfection... I jumped to wondering if those people who thought the Soviet Union was perfection blamed the USA for its demise.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 06, 2016, 08:47:21 AM
You have me a little confused. Have you never heard that Communism == Utopia? (at least in the minds or liberals).
interesting typo.
You can either have a mind or be a liberal.
;-)
Post by: Little Joe on April 06, 2016, 08:51:40 AM
interesting typo.Like someone said (Churchill maybe?)
You can either have a mind or be a liberal.
;-)
(paraphrasing0
If you are under 25 and a conservative,you have no heart.
If you are over 35 and a liberal, you have no brain.
Post by: asechrest on April 06, 2016, 09:04:57 AM
Like someone said (Churchill maybe?)
(paraphrasing0
If you are under 25 and a conservative,you have no heart.
If you are over 35 and a liberal, you have no brain.
Certainly not Churchill, who was a Liberal at 35. :) Though trying to box him in as a Conservative or Liberal is fraught with peril.
Post by: nddons on April 06, 2016, 03:05:03 PM
Certainly not Churchill, who was a Liberal at 35. :) Though trying to box him in as a Conservative or Liberal is fraught with peril.Killjoy.
Post by: Lucifer on April 06, 2016, 04:53:31 PM
Or perhaps Trump himself is causing the anti-Trump crusade?
"Is it just me, or has there been some notable distancing going on over the past week between Donald Trump’s usually reliable cheerleaders in the conservative media and their guy? Some of Trump’s biggest promoters suddenly seem far less enthusiastic about their candidate, and shockingly, a few even appear to be testing the waters for a public withdrawal of support.
"Author and commentator Ann Coulter — who just a few months ago famously demonstrated her commitment to Trump by tweeting that she’d back him even if he performed abortions in the White House — has finally expressed some embarrassment at his conduct.
“I’m a little testy with our man right now,” Coulter told Milo Yiannopoulos (a fellow Trump supporter) on his radio show a few days ago. “Our candidate is mental! Do you realize our candidate is mental? It’s like constantly having to bail out your 16-year-old son from prison.”
Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/433457/donald-trump-media-flaks-hedge-their-bets
Wow, seems Ann Coulter really seems pissed off:
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-04-06.html
Post by: nddons on April 07, 2016, 05:22:21 AM
Wow, seems Ann Coulter really seems pissed off:Coulter has gone off the deep end long ago, and has abandoned conservatism while enroute.
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-04-06.html
Several years ago she backed Chris Christy, and everyone else was stupid.
Four years ago she backed Mitt Romney, and everyone else was stupid.
This year she's backing the vile Donald Trump, and everyone else is stupid.
She has a long track record of backing losers, and she's doing it again this year.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 07, 2016, 05:57:20 AM
Coulter has gone off the deep end long ago, and has abandoned conservatism while enroute.
Several years ago she backed Chris Christy, and everyone else was stupid.
Four years ago she backed Mitt Romney, and everyone else was stupid.
This year she's backing the vile Donald Trump, and everyone else is stupid.
She has a long track record of backing losers, and she's doing it again this year.
can we get her to back Sanders and hillary?
Post by: JeffDG on April 07, 2016, 06:33:55 AM
can we get her to back Sanders and hillary?If she thought she could get 30 extra seconds of airtime for doing so, she would.
Post by: nddons on April 07, 2016, 06:59:59 AM
If she thought she could get 30 extra seconds of airtime for doing so, she would.I used to like her. She was irreverent and brash. I even bought one of her books. But then she started turning into a "Fatal Attraction" stalker, and when she abandoned conservatism when she was backing Christie, she turned me off. Now with her over-the-top daily fellatio of Trump, it makes me wonder if she's trying out for wife #4.
Post by: Little Joe on April 07, 2016, 07:20:35 AM
I used to like her. She was irreverent and brash. I even bought one of her books. But then she started turning into a "Fatal Attraction" stalker, and when she abandoned conservatism when she was backing Christie, she turned me off. Now with her over-the-top daily fellatio of Trump, it makes me wonder if she's trying out for wife #4.I used to like her too.
When she was younger and prettier.
And I used to like Megyn Kelly too, before she changed her "look".
Some things are still more important than politics. :P ;D
Post by: Lucifer on April 07, 2016, 07:25:08 AM
I used to like her too.
When she was younger and prettier.
And I used to like Megyn Kelly too, before she changed her "look".
Some things are still more important than politics. :P ;D
Megyn Kelly reminds me of the Don Henley song "Dirty Laundry"
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The bubble head beach blond comes on at 5
She can tell you about the plane crash
With a gleam in her eye
Kelly is a supposed news anchor that wants the story to be about her. She's totally into self promotion.
Post by: JeffDG on April 07, 2016, 07:36:30 AM
Megyn Kelly reminds me of the Don Henley song "Dirty Laundry"Trump and his minions are obsessed with Kelly.
Kelly is a supposed news anchor that wants the story to be about her. She's totally into self promotion.
I'd bet money that he came on to her and she shot him down, thus resulting in his incessant need to pull her pigtails like the 6 year old that he is.
Post by: nddons on April 07, 2016, 07:48:23 AM
I used to like her too.Winning!!!
When she was younger and prettier.
And I used to like Megyn Kelly too, before she changed her "look".
Some things are still more important than politics. :P ;D
Except I never thought Coulter was attractive, unless you're a big fan of anorexia. She looks like Skelator. I prefer a little more meat on the bones.
I'm OK with Megyn Kelly's new look.
Post by: Little Joe on April 07, 2016, 07:53:57 AM
Winning!!!I guess I am attracted to thin women. I guess opposites do attract. At least in one direction.
Except I never thought Coulter was attractive, unless you're a big fan of anorexia. She looks like Skelator. I prefer a little more meat on the bones.
I'm OK with Megyn Kelly's new look.
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 11:10:16 AM
Post by: Little Joe on April 07, 2016, 02:13:35 PM
I like thin women, but I also like some chest. My wife is a 00, but 34 DD. How can someone be a 00? Double zero, really?I concur.
And congratulations on your choice.
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 02:49:01 PM
I concur.
And congratulations on your choice.
Thank you. She's also twenty years younger than me. It's like maintaining a Ferrari though. Or an airplane!.
Post by: Number7 on April 07, 2016, 02:59:18 PM
Trump and his minions are obsessed with Kelly.
I'd bet money that he came on to her and she shot him down, thus resulting in his incessant need to pull her pigtails like the 6 year old that he is.
You know something???
I think you're right.
Post by: nddons on April 07, 2016, 03:03:24 PM
Thank you. She's also twenty years younger than me. It's like maintaining a Ferrari though. Or an airplane!.So we should henceforth call you "Donald?"
You've got your own plane, and a much younger wife. No, scratch that. To the best of my knowledge you aren't an asshole.
Congrats, you get to keep "Anthony."
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 03:03:52 PM
You know something???
I think you're right.
Have you seen Trump's wife? Kelly is a huge down grade. I doubt he hit on her. She was just yanking his chain in that debate to get ratings.
Post by: Number7 on April 07, 2016, 03:05:26 PM
Have you seen Trump's wife? Kelly is a huge down grade. I doubt he hit on her. She was just yanking his chain in that debate to get ratings.
Serial philanderer rarely care about things like that. It's all about the new cow, not the one at home.
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 03:06:07 PM
So we should henceforth call you "Donald?"
You've got your own plane, and a much younger wife. No, scratch that. To the best of my knowledge you aren't an asshole.
Congrats, you get to keep "Anthony."
LOL Stan! But I sold the Tiger several months ago, so I am plane less right now. My wife costs too much to maintain. :)
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 03:09:51 PM
Serial philanderer rarely care about things like that. It's all about the new cow, not the one at home.
You could be right. He does have a long history of doing that. Doubt Megyn Kelly would enjoy being referred to as a cow. :) I don't like her anymore. I think she's a closet lib/progressive, and success has gone to her head. She also needs bigger boobs. :)
Post by: nddons on April 07, 2016, 03:17:00 PM
LOL Stan! But I sold the Tiger several months ago, so I am plane less right now. My wife costs too much to maintain. :)Really? That's too bad. What are you looking for now?
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 03:20:28 PM
Really? That's too bad. What are you looking for now?
Yeah, it was the right time. Engine was high time, and I needed avionics upgrades across the board. I had that plane for fifteen years. I don't know what I want. Part of me wants a tail dragger. I may get my glider add on as there is a club close to me in Morgantown, PA. If my wife keeps buying clothes, shoes, and hand bags that may be all I can afford. :)
Post by: Gary on April 07, 2016, 03:38:04 PM
If my wife keeps buying clothes, shoes, and hand bags that may be all I can afford. :)
Yep, it's always the long term Operations and Maintenance that get ya. ;)
Hope you do get something to get back in the air!!
Gary
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 03:41:18 PM
Yep, it's always the long term Operations and Maintenance that get ya. ;)
Hope you do get something to get back in the air!!
Gary
Thanks Gary. Like I said previously, I may do the glider thing for a while out of Morgantown.
Long term Operations, and Maintenance is a pretty good way to put it. :)
Post by: nddons on April 07, 2016, 03:42:52 PM
Thanks Gary. Like I said previously, I may do the glider thing for a while out of Morgantown.At least Trump doesn't burden bundled with long-term Operations. He just orders a new model.
Long term Operations, and Maintenance is a pretty good way to put it. :)
Post by: Little Joe on April 07, 2016, 03:45:25 PM
Yeah, it was the right time. Engine was high time, and I needed avionics upgrades across the board. I had that plane for fifteen years. I don't know what I want. Part of me wants a tail dragger. I may get my glider add on as there is a club close to me in Morgantown, PA. If my wife keeps buying clothes, shoes, and hand bags that may be all I can afford. :)At what point do you trade her in?
Post by: Gary on April 07, 2016, 03:45:56 PM
At least Trump doesn't burden bundled with long-term Operations. He just orders a new model.
aHHH... to be a 1%'er!!
Gary
Post by: Anthony on April 07, 2016, 03:51:43 PM
At what point do you trade her in?
I told her when she turns 40, I'll trade her in for two 20's. :)
I am on my third one as it is!
Post by: Lucifer on April 08, 2016, 08:49:09 AM
Megyn Kelly reminds me of the Don Henley song "Dirty Laundry"
Kelly is a supposed news anchor that wants the story to be about her. She's totally into self promotion.
http://nypost.com/2016/04/08/megyn-kelly-is-no-different-than-kim-kardashian/
Post by: nddons on April 09, 2016, 07:45:24 AM
http://nypost.com/2016/04/08/megyn-kelly-is-no-different-than-kim-kardashian/Um, yes she is different.
Interesting that you are following Trump's MDS (Megyn Derangement Syndrome). Why does Trump hate American women?
Post by: JeffDG on April 09, 2016, 07:56:51 AM
Um, yes she is different.Fixed it for you.InterestingTotally predictable that you are following Trump's MDS (Megyn Derangement Syndrome). Why does Trump hate American women?
Trumpkins always follow their dear leader.
Post by: Dav8or on April 09, 2016, 08:00:51 AM
Um, yes she is different.
Interesting that you are following Trump's MDS (Megyn Derangement Syndrome). Why does Trump hate American women?
Probably because they're uppity and talk back. Just the way I personally like them.
Post by: Lucifer on April 09, 2016, 08:03:05 AM
Um, yes she is different.
She is advancing her own "stardom" and continually trying to make herself the story. The latest is she will try to get Fox to match her pay to O'Reilly's.
Anytime a news anchor keeps inserting themselves into the story shows they lack journalistic integrity.
Interesting that you are following Trump's MDS (Megyn Derangement Syndrome). Why does Trump hate American women?
I was answering a post where she was the topic.
Interesting that no matter what I post it infuriates you. You and your sycophant have a really unhealthy obsession with me.
Post by: nddons on April 09, 2016, 08:03:50 AM
Probably because they're uppity and talk back. Just the way I personally like them.Me too! All you have to do is marry an Irish girl, and have a daughter who has the same Irish lineage. Bingo. Instant snarky women.
Post by: nddons on April 09, 2016, 08:08:53 AM
She is advancing her own "stardom" and continually trying to make herself the story. The latest is she will try to get Fox to match her pay to O'Reilly's.So Is she any different than Trump advancing his own "stardom" and continually trying to make himself the story? Answer? No. And that pisses Trump off to no end. He's a petulant child.
Anytime a news anchor keeps inserting themselves into the story shows they lack journalistic integrity.
I was answering a post where she was the topic.
Interesting that no matter what I post it infuriates you. You and your sycophant have a really unhealthy obsession with me.
As for obsession, again, the answer is No. I just respond when you post something that reflects your obsession with another petulant child.
Post by: Lucifer on April 09, 2016, 08:40:06 AM
So Is she any different than Trump advancing his own "stardom" and continually trying to make himself the story? Answer? No. And that pisses Trump off to no end. He's a petulant child.
She is a supposed news journalist, that's what's being discussed. YOU are the one that keeps interjecting Trump into conversations.
Like I said before, you strike me as someone who stubs your toe then goes into a rant of "it's all Trump's fault!"
As for obsession, again, the answer is No. I just respond when you post something that reflects your obsession with another petulant child.
You and your sycophant have a real unhealthy obsession with me. And you feel you must lie and distort about anything I post to make some inane rambling point.
One thing I've noticed in life is always true, dealing with people from the far end of the spectrums is no different. You are such a far right ideologue you have more in common with a far left ideologue than anyone in the middle.
And we'll watch now as your response will be some diatribe about Trump and your sycophant will chime in to back you up.
Pathetic.
Post by: nddons on April 09, 2016, 08:53:33 AM
She is a supposed news journalist, that's what's being discussed. YOU are the one that keeps interjecting Trump into conversations.Gotcha, champ. Thin-skinned, just like your guy Trump.
Like I said before, you strike me as someone who stubs your toe then goes into a rant of "it's all Trump's fault!"
You and your sycophant have a real unhealthy obsession with me. And you feel you must lie and distort about anything I post to make some inane rambling point.
One thing I've noticed in life is always true, dealing with people from the far end of the spectrums is no different. You are such a far right ideologue you have more in common with a far left ideologue than anyone in the middle.
And we'll watch now as your response will be some diatribe about Trump and your sycophant will chime in to back you up.
Pathetic.
Post by: Lucifer on April 09, 2016, 08:54:40 AM
Gotcha, champ. Thin-skinned, just like your guy Trump.
Thanks for proving my point.
Post by: JeffDG on April 09, 2016, 10:15:51 AM
Gotcha, champ. Thin-skinned, just like yourFixed it for you. Trump is a child.guyboy Trump. (http://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji31.png)
Post by: Lucifer on April 09, 2016, 10:30:58 AM
Post by: JeffDG on April 09, 2016, 10:46:17 AM
Right on cue. So predictable.Speaking of predictable, yet another in a seemingly infinite string of content free posts from Lucifer.
Post by: Anthony on April 10, 2016, 03:44:48 AM
Post by: nddons on April 10, 2016, 08:59:49 AM
There are many better female journalists on Fox News than Megyn Kelly. Also, there are many better looking women on Fox than Kelly. She's going to leave Fox anyway and go to CNN. Watch.My hope was that she would at least kick O'Reilly to the curb. I can't watch his show any more. Just as he gave Obama a pass for 7 years before finding out he's a bad president, he is calling Trump a conservative and saying Trump's financial support for Hillary's presidential campaign and support for other liberals "was just business" as if every business person does this. O'Reilly's a fucking tool.
Hannity? I'm convinced he's having Trump's child.
And this morning I flipped on Fox News Sunday to watch the show before coming into the office (you know, so I can pay my fair share) and in this heated presidential race, 5 days out from Cruz' game changing victory in Wisconsin, who is the featured guest? Fucking Obama. Click off, and back into work earlier than expected.
I'm watching "Stone Cold" Steve Austin's Broken Skull Challenge more than I'm watching Fox.
Post by: Lucifer on April 10, 2016, 09:14:33 AM
My hope was that she would at least kick O'Reilly to the curb. I can't watch his show any more. Just as he gave Obama a pass for 7 years before finding out he's a bad president, he is calling Trump a conservative and saying Trump's financial support for Hillary's presidential campaign and support for other liberals "was just business" as if every business person does this. O'Reilly's a fucking tool.
Hannity? I'm convinced he's having Trump's child.
And this morning I flipped on Fox News Sunday to watch the show before coming into the office (you know, so I can pay my fair share) and in this heated presidential race, 5 days out from Cruz' game changing victory in Wisconsin, who is the featured guest? Fucking Obama. Click off, and back into work earlier than expected.
Funny.
I watch Fox News and Fox Business on a regular basis. Fox has been hammering Trump for a while now and painting Cruz in a much more positive light.
I'm not a Hannity fan and rarely, if ever, watch his show or listen to him.
I have no problem with O'Reilly as he does look at the issues without the spin. I've watched him hammer Trump, call out Cruz on several misrepresentations and then go to bat for either one when they are being unfairly attacked.
And O'Reilly has been very critical of Obama, but he keeps it to policy issues and stays out of the spin politics.
As far as Cruz and Wisconsin both Fox News and Fox Business has covered that well, almost to the point of over load.
I'm watching "Stone Cold" Steve Austin's Broken Skull Challenge more than I'm watching Fox.
Probably better suited for you. Do they also give conservative commentary? ::)
Post by: pilot_dude on April 11, 2016, 02:58:46 PM
Um, yes she is different.Just the ugly fat one. Oh, and Megyn.
Interesting that you are following Trump's MDS (Megyn Derangement Syndrome). Why does Trump hate American women?