PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Anthony on June 30, 2017, 06:02:25 AM
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Looks like the Third Reich is back in power in Germany. Maybe Hitler was right. It will last 1000 years. >:(
BERLIN (AP) – German lawmakers approved a bill on Friday aimed at cracking down on hate speech on social networks, which critics say could have drastic consequences for free speech online.
The measure approved is designed to enforce the country’s existing limits on speech, including the long-standing ban on Holocaust denial. Among other things, it would fine social networking sites up to 50 million euros ($56 million) if they persistently fail to remove illegal content within a week, including defamatory “fake news.”
“Freedom of speech ends where the criminal law begins,” said Justice Minister Heiko Maas, who was the driving force behind the bill.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/30/germany-passes-online-hate-speech-law/
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Looks like the Third Reich is back in power in Germany. Maybe Hitler was right. It will last 1000 years. >:(
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/30/germany-passes-online-hate-speech-law/
Goebbels would be proud.
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Germany is efffed as a sovereign nation. They will adopt Sharia law at some point.
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I guess this means 90% of what is said about Trump will be banned in Germany.
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Do liberals have a death wish? What is wrong with these fooking people?
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They will automatically exempt hate speech against non progressives from any penalties.
That's what progressive nazis do.
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They will automatically exempt hate speech against non progressives from any penalties.
That's what progressive nazis do.
You bring up the most relevant point. Who defines what "hate speech" is? Right now from what I see in America, the exact same comment regarding blacks is "hate" but regarding whites is acceptable. Same with male bashing. And my pet peeve is the "hillbilly" bashing. Oh my god, the hostility toward rural whites is unreal but where is the progressive outcry of hate speech there? If you dare say something about blacks liking watermelon RACIST but say something about West Virginians having no teeth, ha ha ha! A good one! I am sick of the hypocrisy.
Germany is a little different; their hate speech laws since WWII involve anti-semitism and according to that article now, involves "immigrants and minorities". I wonder if anybody is going to care if hate speech is directed toward a blond blue eyed heterosexual male?
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You bring up the most relevant point. Who defines what "hate speech" is? Right now from what I see in America, the exact same comment regarding blacks is "hate" but regarding whites is acceptable. Same with male bashing. And my pet peeve is the "hillbilly" bashing. Oh my god, the hostility toward rural whites is unreal but where is the progressive outcry of hate speech there? If you dare say something about blacks liking watermelon RACIST but say something about West Virginians having no teeth, ha ha ha! A good one! I am sick of the hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy abounds on the left, and in the media (same thing). I think the election of Trump was partially to stop the hypocrisy. I got married in TN, as my wife is from Kentucky. When I went back to work in CT, they asked me where we got married, so I told them. I got several "funny" comments about banjo music, no teeth, bare feet, etc.
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Let's be honest.
Liberals CAN'T WIN within it tilting the deck drastically.
These types of laws are designed to tilt the deck just like equal opportunity hiring is designed to insure that b;ack applicants don't face as tough a task to get hired as whites.
How can democrats win any elections without cheating, committing fraud, using racism and inequality as. Door posts and pretending that reverse racis. Is wholesome and deserved?
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Hypocrisy abounds on the left
And defeatism abounds on the right. Seems like the right would rather give up and admit that they're going to lose than actually waste the effort trying.
Both are pretty looney if you ask me.
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And defeatism abounds on the right. Seems like the right would rather give up and admit that they're going to lose than actually waste the effort trying.
Both are pretty looney if you ask me.
Not true at all. The problem is that the Right has little representation in government. Establishment Republicans, which are the vast majority are NOT right. They may say they are, but they are like Democrats that want the bigger government status quo. We have Trump at this point a few others. Maybe Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and a few more. That's it!
Most moderates usually have a willingness to compromise only to accommodate the left, and not really take a stand for what is the right thing to do. Pretty looney if you ask me.
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Not true at all. The problem is that the Right has little representation in government. Establishment Republicans, which are the vast majority are NOT right. They may say they are, but they are like Democrats that want the bigger government status quo. We have Trump at this point a few others. Maybe Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, and a few more. That's it!
Most moderates usually have a willingness to compromise only to accommodate the left, and not really take a stand for what is the right thing to do. Pretty looney if you ask me.
Agree but not sure Trump is actually "right". He has flip flopped from Dem to Rep party and others, over the years, contributed to both sides, changed position on abortion, gun control, healthcare, etc.
Not that I have a problem with all of that. I've flipped myself, been a registered Democrat before, a registered Libertarian and a Republican all at various times. I also don't really buy "if you flip flop you don't stay true to your values". I believe you CAN be sincerely true to your values, but your values can change as you learn new information and/or circumstances change. My stance on crime is a good example, I have always been very pro-tough on crime, pro lock 'em up. But in recent years, with the vast increase in imprisonment of non-violent offenders due to the incredibly over-reaching "war on drugs" and the for-profit private prison system with too high a stake in mass incarceration (this is one of the FEW things I side with the ACLU on) I have reversed my position on imprisonment. (My position now is: Ideally almost no one should be imprisoned; violent offenders should receive justice at the end of their would-be victim's gun. Save the trouble of trial. But I digress.) The point is, I hardly have wishy washy values. Actually, come to think of it, my core value has not changed at all. I still believe violent offenders, and other TRUE criminals such as burglars, etc. should receive the harshest treatment, if not death at the hands of their victim at the point of the crime commission, or yes, reserve prison for them. But I never favored harsh punishment for victimless "crime". It's just that on the whole I believed upholding a strong prison system was good for society, but where I have flipped is that now upholding a strong prison system is becoming a tool to incarcerate too many who do not belong there and a net detriment to society.
And likewise I give Trump the benefit of the doubt and hope he changes because of genuine reasons. (I also point out some of his "change" is made up media lies.) But I realize he probably changes for personal benefit, to grow his own wealth and power. I have no problem with that either as long as his benefit aligns with mine and that of the rest of middle America, IE: if it led to him getting elected POTUS and he actually saves the economy for us all.
You are correct, right now Trump is functioning very much like the true right that we want. Attempting to drain the swamp, getting us out of Paris, etc. - wonderful, wonderful things. But I still reserve a bit of skepticism about him overall - still cautiously optimistic about him, but not blindly putting all my faith in him. I'm sure you feel exactly the same way.
But your point about establishment Republicans not being the true right anymore is spot on. It's why I have left the Republican party again this year and probably will never return. I think I'll just be "independent" now for the remainder of my days.