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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on February 26, 2019, 07:36:46 AM

Title: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2019, 07:36:46 AM
Let’s implement the Green New Deal!

In a very short period of time, not only will people stop sneaking in, but rich evil white people will start sneaking out.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2019, 07:51:05 AM
The "New Green Deal" is nothing more than a distraction, and it's working remarkably well.

First off, it's a trial balloon.  Float it out there and see if anything takes off.  Use that info for 2020.

Second, it detracts from the Border Fence issue.  The progressives are losing that fight with the President and the public.

Third, the "Trump-Russia" hoax is collapsing.  All indications are the "Mueller Report" will be anti climatic and not provide the progressives with what they were after, which was to remove the President.

Pay attention to the man behind the curtain.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Steingar on February 26, 2019, 11:32:40 AM
You want to know how effective walls are try asking the Chinese.  Can't believe you guys think potential immigrants can't build ladders.  Or use ropes.  Or dig.  Or blast.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Anthony on February 26, 2019, 11:44:06 AM
 Walls work at the border near San Diego.   Look it up.  You don't know much history do you?  Hadrians Wall worked for the Roman's for centuries.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2019, 11:54:15 AM
You want to know how effective walls are try asking the Chinese.  Can't believe you guys think potential immigrants can't build ladders.  Or use ropes.  Or dig.  Or blast.
Burglars can break windows and pick locks.  But I still have locks on my front door to try to at least slow them down a little.  It gives me time to grab a baseball bat or something.

But that wasn't the point of this thread.  The point was that if we let little Alexandria ruin our economy with her naive, idealistic, socialistic ways, we won't have to worry about illegals trying to sneak in any more.  There won't be anything here for them to come after.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Mr Pou on February 26, 2019, 11:55:02 AM
You want to know how effective walls are try asking the Chinese.  Can't believe you guys think potential immigrants can't build ladders.  Or use ropes.  Or dig.  Or blast.

Locks don't keep determined people out of your house, but I bet you lock your doors anyway.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Rush on February 26, 2019, 12:32:37 PM
Walls are more humane.  They'll funnel people toward entry points where they can apply for asylum and be processed, rather than just cross an undefended border and wander around lost until they die of dehydration. I cannot believe you people who think we should just leave the borders open and undefended. What is wrong with you?
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Steingar on February 26, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
Walls work at the border near San Diego.   Look it up.  You don't know much history do you?  Hadrians Wall worked for the Roman's for centuries.

I lived there genius.  Damn thing didn't even slow them down.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Anthony on February 26, 2019, 01:02:58 PM
I lived there genius.  Damn thing didn't even slow them down.

I had an office their (insert juvenile derogatory insult).  Then why did the Hondurans have to stop there?  It works.

Why don't you want to know who's coming here?  Canada, UK, Australia does it.  Why do you want open borders.  Do you hate our country?
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: nddons on February 26, 2019, 01:06:17 PM
You want to know how effective walls are try asking the Chinese.  Can't believe you guys think potential immigrants can't build ladders.  Or use ropes.  Or dig.  Or blast.
I can’t believe you don’t read current events. Israel has very effective walls that have been 99% effective.

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/feb/13/ron-johnson/border-fence-israel-cut-illegal-immigration-99-per/

But of course you know better than the Israelis, don’t you?
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2019, 01:33:50 PM
I lived there genius.  Damn thing didn't even slow them down.

So when was the last time you were in San Diego?
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: bflynn on February 26, 2019, 01:39:08 PM
I lived there genius.  Damn thing didn't even slow them down.

Well, other than that caravan thing, which is camped in Tijuana instead of San Diego.  That one it slowed down pretty well.

However, the fence...they just ran a truck right through that one.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2019, 01:43:29 PM
You want to know how effective walls are try asking the Chinese.  Can't believe you guys think potential immigrants can't build ladders.  Or use ropes.  Or dig.  Or blast.

 Our technology is sightly (well, greatly) more advanced than that of 500 years ago.

 The wall (or fence) in today's border has regular patrols, both ground and air, and drone surveillance.  There are multitude of cameras as well as listening devices, and few other pieces of classified material that monitor the wall (fence).

 What the wall (fence) does serve as a barrier to slow down the law breakers who choose to breach them.  With the technology currently in use as they are trying to breach the barrier it typically gives LE time to respond.

 And we have many large expanses that lack adequate barriers, and rely on the air/ground network to track illegal activity.  Of course with no barrier they move more quickly through these areas, usually before LE can get to them.

 Thus, the President has identified the problem (just as Bush 41, Bush 43, Clinton and Obama have done) but this President has decided to act on it, rather than just give a speech about it.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Steingar on February 26, 2019, 02:35:37 PM
I had an office their (insert juvenile derogatory insult).  Then why did the Hondurans have to stop there?  It works.

Why don't you want to know who's coming here?  Canada, UK, Australia does it.  Why do you want open borders.  Do you hate our country?

No, I want solutions that actually work.  Walls do work it there are lots of eyes on them.  They don't do squat in the middle of nowhere, which is a succinct definition of our southern border.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2019, 02:41:28 PM
No, I want solutions that actually work.  Walls do work it there are lots of eyes on them.  They don't do squat in the middle of nowhere, which is a succinct definition of our southern border.

See reply #12.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Little Joe on February 26, 2019, 02:42:11 PM
No, I want solutions that actually work.  Walls do work it there are lots of eyes on them.  They don't do squat in the middle of nowhere, which is a succinct definition of our southern border.
What's the saying:  "Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good"?

We have been demanding some sort of solution for decades.  We have been promised action.  Trump is the first President that is actually trying to do something about it, but people like you don't want his solution because it may not be the perfect solution.

I say, build the damn wall.  Then if we see they are tunneling under or climbing over or going around, then we fortify it against those things.  But let's at least get started on something before they turn this country into the same shithole they trying to escape from.

If we would step up to the plate and implement e-verify,
If we would stop granting citizenship to whole families that have anchor babies,
If we would stop giving illegal immigrants tax payer funded benefits,
If we would . . .

THEN we might be able to do without the wall.  But we won't do those things and we won't build the damn wall either.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Lucifer on February 26, 2019, 02:44:27 PM
What's the saying:  "Don't let perfection be the enemy of the good"?

We have been demanding some sort of solution for decades.  We have been promised action.  Trump is the first President that is actually trying to do something about it, but people like you don't want his solution because it may not be the perfect solution.

I say, build the damn wall.  Then if we see they are tunneling under or climbing over or going around, then we fortify it against those things.  But let's at least get started on something before they turn this country into the same shithole they trying to escape from.

If we would step up to the plate and implement e-verify,
If we would stop granting citizenship to whole families that have anchor babies,
If we would stop giving illegal immigrants tax payer funded benefits,
If we would . . .

THEN we might be able to do without the wall.  But we won't do those things and we won't build the damn wall either.

 Let's be clear about this.  The only objection to the border wall (fence) is purely political, nothing more.   Had BHO actually followed through like he claimed he would, there would have been no objections, only praise.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Anthony on February 26, 2019, 02:57:47 PM
It is the Democrat's quest to illegally change the Demographics of Ameristan.
Title: Re: Libs have a better idea. We don’t need no stinking wall.
Post by: Number7 on February 26, 2019, 08:12:39 PM
The objections to the wall can all be summed by one thing.
Fucking Democrats can’t win eoections without fraud. They need more fraud all the time and illegal aliens is a good source.
End of story