PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on July 17, 2017, 07:32:30 AM
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I know I didn't spell it the way senile Maxine Waters pronounces it, but Koe-REA (North Korea for normal humans) is experiencing a serious rise in gasoline and diesel prices after China cut off fuel sales to them as a way of retaliating for their nuclear program.
It was always going to have to be China, short of a military strike by the US, that would bring sufficient pressure against the migit to behave.
I am hopeful that China will follow through and force the psycho son to behave.
North Korea in the weeks after a Chinese state oil company suspended fuel sales to the reclusive state, according to data reviewed by Reuters and an interview with a North Korean defector.
China National Petroleum Corp (CNPC), a state-controlled company, halted diesel and gasoline sales to North Korea "over the last month or two", amid international pressure on Pyongyang to curb its nuclear and missile programs, Reuters exclusively reported on June 28.
Scrutiny of China's commercial ties with its isolated neighbor intensified further following North Korea's first test of an intercontinental ballistic missile two weeks ago.
The price of gasoline sold by private dealers in Pyongyang and the northern border cities of Sinuiju and Hyesan jumped to $2.18 per kg ($2.92 per liter) as of July 5, up 50 percent from $1.46 per kg on June 21, according to Reuters analysis of data collected by the Daily NK website.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-fuel-prices-surge-china-cuts-oil-064430845--finance.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-fuel-prices-surge-china-cuts-oil-064430845--finance.html)
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Without China's tacit approval, Kim would be six feet under. They use NK as a proxy to threaten the West.
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I saw that as a huge positive also. There needs to be a Coup in N. Korea, by a more moderate faction, that wants to work with the West, and improve conditions there. I assume the N. Korean people do not get a glimpse of the economic advancements of S. Korea. If they did, maybe change would be supported. I really don't know much about the Korean Peninsula, and current strategy there.
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I saw that as a huge positive also. There needs to be a Coup in N. Korea, by a more moderate faction, that wants to work with the West, and improve conditions there. I assume the N. Korean people do not get a glimpse of the economic advancements of S. Korea. If they did, maybe change would be supported. I really don't know much about the Korean Peninsula, and current strategy there.
There seems to be no one alive that could pull off an internal overthrow, and there certainly is no one alive that could lead after the migit and his entourage of idiots are dead. However, China and the US could offer all the assistance necessary for the interim conversion back to democracy if China and the US could constrain themselves from putting a puppet in place.
North Korea (Koe-REA for Mad Maxi) would be best suited to dissolve itself and become part of a ONE Korea again.
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China wants to keep North Korea as is.
As mentioned previously, China can use NK as a proxy. Second, by having NK as their puppet it keeps a safe buffer zone between SK and China. And the US has a strong presence in SK.
Another benefit of China keeping NK as a lapdog is the slave trade. The Chinese use slave labor from NK without worry
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In my itinerant youth, I had the 'pleasure' of spending some quality time in a small town a short distance from the Korean DMZ. Being that I wasn't much of a gung-ho sort, I spent a lot of time on the economy, and got to know the Koreans fairly well. Dated one for a while, and generally learned about the country. S Korea is a great place. However, the S Koreans hate the north govt with what can only be described as outrage. Even though the armistice was signed about +60 years now, the wounds that would normally heal are not working in Korea. And, of course, the NK are blasted constantly with propaganda about how despotic and horrible the south and the US are.
I predict there will be no peaceful solution with NK, unless it comes from the people, and is spontaneous. There is no way for any opposition to form, and no way for any kind of outside influence to take hold. We saw the wall come down in Europe due to structural changes in the Soviets, and the vassal states. The west had finally invaded the sphere of influence of the people in the eastern Europe, and their will could not be stopped, short of tanks, and arty.
In NK, there is almost a complete blackout of information except state media. The average NK has no idea there even is an Internet. No NK has ever had a credit card(except family of the ruling party). The concept of a private movie, music, or even contemporary writing does not exist. It's like a bubble on the planet, where people are kept locked away from progress. Even those few NK people who go out of the country and return are advised to never, ever disclose the big, fancy, fun, and open world out there on pain of execution or locking up all their family. They do NOT allow foreign influence.
NK recently tried to build a western styled ski resort. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24470094 Well, guess what? It is not open to NK people. Only to party bosses, special guests and foreign tourists. Chinese make up about 85% of the visitors, which isn't surprising as China's ski destinations are even more thin. I used to be in the ski business so I checked out a possible trip to visit. The hassles involved, and the facilities and skiing looked so daunting that I gave up after a few minutes investigation.
S Korea is an important ally and trading partner in SE Asia. But I have to admit, I'm not sure they are worth going to guns over NK martial ambition. I would say that NK is a perfect spot for our nuclear program. We have nothing to lose from the west, and I would say that in theory, every person in NK is a default target by having kids under that regime. It would be suitable if every woman in the country refused to reproduce, so the population would decline to zero. But, knowing what I know about NK, they would almost surely forceably impregnate young women to keep up the population. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if they were already doing that.
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Fascinating thread. It is hard to imagine in this high tech world that a developed country could be kept so insular.
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Fascinating thread. It is hard to imagine in this high tech world that a developed country could be kept so insular.
Why is it so hard to imagine. Even in this country, the press has half the country believing in the superiority of socialism.
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Why is it so hard to imagine. Even in this country, the press has half the country believing in the superiority of socialism.
Actually, most of the work is done in the HS and university level. Socialism is a fundamental truth that comes with matriculation from any university(outside of med and eng schools of course).
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Why is it so hard to imagine. Even in this country, the press has half the country believing in the superiority of socialism.
Very good point. In fact 90% - 95% of our own media is "state run" except it is state run by the left/liberal/progressive Democrats. The other perspective gets very little attention, nor airplay. We have 50% of the country at least believing these lies, and thank goodness we are a freer society than NK with some core values that resemble freedom, and liberty.
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There are 49 permanent slots in the white house press corps. There are also some temp and intl slots who get a spot as well.
Of the 49 permanent media slots - there are 49 who identify as liberals, and zero who identify as apolitical, moderates, or conservatives. I don't think there's any real shock why there are never any press conferences by the prez, and why he tweets. Not that I'm a fan of tweets, but it sure is understandable.
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If that dictatorship were ever deposed, most of NK would be like feral children raised by monkeys in the jungle (sorry... "rain forest") without ever having seen another human. They are that brainwashed. The very idea that there is a world outside their "Dear Leader" will blow their minds to pieces. They won't be able to adjust. We'd have to wait a generation or two before the population would be able to re-assimilate back into reality.
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I disagree because the people under the thumb of the communist st psychopaths in NK would emerge from their fears and discover what it feels like to make decisions for the first time.
Once they get over the joy of slaughtering whatever was left of the regime, that is.
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You have two choices, one is "vote for us and we'll give you everything you need for free" the second is "vote for us and we'll teach you how to be responsible for yourself" . Take your pick :)
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You have two choices, one is "vote for us and we'll give you everything you need for free" the second is "vote for us and we'll teach you how to be responsible for yourself" . Take your pick :)
We all know what many, if not most people pick. :(