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Title: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: bflynn on September 20, 2016, 10:14:01 AM
http://myfox8.com/2016/09/19/hpu-students-react-to-upcoming-donald-trump-visit/ (http://myfox8.com/2016/09/19/hpu-students-react-to-upcoming-donald-trump-visit/)

Trump is visiting High Point University today in North Carolina.

Says Elizabeth Reichart, a senior at HPU, "I'm a little disappointed in High Point University for allowing him to be here because I think of this environment as one that promotes diversity of one that includes all types of ideas."


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Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Mase on September 20, 2016, 10:22:00 AM
"Caudle and others are planning a protest on campus to show their displeasure that Trump is on the school's property and to highlight their support of all people and viewpoints."

WTF?

Education FAIL.  A Senior who wants diversity and "ALL TYPES OF IDEAS" and then objects when different ideas than what she has been force-fed for four years may be presented. 
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: PaulS on September 20, 2016, 10:33:02 AM
Lol, what a dumbass.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Steingar on September 20, 2016, 10:42:33 AM
Wouldn't want that windbag anywhere near my alma mater.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Mase on September 20, 2016, 10:49:22 AM
Wouldn't want that windbag anywhere near my alma mater.

We certainly can't have tolerance and diversity, can we.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Little Joe on September 20, 2016, 11:16:13 AM

Says Elizabeth Reichart, a senior at HPU, "I'm a little disappointed in High Point University for allowing him to be here because I think of this environment as one that promotes diversity of one that includes all types of ideas."

I'm sure that some of our resident liberals would agree with that.  After all, it might be stupid, but it is legal to say it.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Steingar on September 20, 2016, 11:25:51 AM
We certainly can't have tolerance and diversity, can we.

Tolerance means not discriminating against someone on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, or other non-personal factors.  It does not mean disliking assholes.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Mase on September 20, 2016, 11:37:08 AM
Which assholes should be allowed to speak on college campii and which should not?
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 20, 2016, 11:41:53 AM
Tolerance means not discriminating against someone on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, or other non-personal factors.  It does not mean disliking assholes.

"Non personal?" Egad, you've only left out height, eye and hair color. 

Only assholes would shut out opposing viewpoints in defense of diversity. 





Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: asechrest on September 20, 2016, 11:55:32 AM
I read the story, and I don't see much wrong, here. One student interviewee is complaining about getting her feelers hurt. Another student interviewee says this is an opportunity to participate in the Democratic process. The school's official response is that on-campus speakers are not endorsed by the school, but, rather, are brought in for their differing viewpoints so that students can come to their own independent and informed decisions.

Sounds like it is going exactly as it should.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Anthony on September 20, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
Diversity, multiculturalism, and inclusiveness is only for those that believe the Communist, university mantra.  They will not tolerate Capitalism, other view points, personal responsibility, accountability, American values from what founded our country, etc.

The are enlightened, and evolved.  If Hitler came to speak at my college, I would let him. 
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Anthony on September 20, 2016, 12:24:27 PM
Tolerance means not discriminating against someone on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, or other non-personal factors.  It does not mean disliking assholes.

You are one of the most close minded, intolerant people, I have ever seen on a webboard.  That comes from lack of knowledge. 
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Steingar on September 20, 2016, 12:25:43 PM
Which assholes should be allowed to speak on college campii and which should not?

Ones that are acceptable to the students and faculty.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Anthony on September 20, 2016, 12:33:04 PM
Ones that are acceptable to the students and faculty.

So Neville Chamberlain would have been OK, but not Winston Churchill.  Got it.   
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: bflynn on September 20, 2016, 01:00:33 PM
Tolerance means not discriminating against someone on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, or other non-personal factors.  It does not mean disliking assholes.

NO.  So what if a few here apply that to you.  Should your political affiliation be wiped off the face of the earth because you're disliked?

Tolerance does not have a topic.  You either have respect for people or you are intolerant of them.  There is no partial ground.  You aren't required to agree with them, but you must defend their right to be an asshole.  Being intolerant of intolerance is not a solution to the problem, it is a continuation of the problem.  You aren't fixing the problem, you ARE the problem. 

Otherwise, you can justify any bad behavior by just saying "that person is a jerk".
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Steingar on September 20, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
NO.  So what if a few here apply that to you.  Should your political affiliation be wiped off the face of the earth because you're disliked?

Obviously not.  Thankfully I don't care if I'm disliked, never won a popularity contest and won't start now.

Tolerance does not have a topic.  You either have respect for people or you are intolerant of them.  There is no partial ground.

Actually, you are tolerant of groups, ideologies, religious leanings, all sorts of things.  Tolerance as applied to individuals is a very different concept.

You aren't required to agree with them, but you must defend their right to be an asshole.   

if there is a group that espouses an ideology with which you violently disagree, it is your duty as an American to support their right to free expression.

Being intolerant of intolerance is not a solution to the problem, it is a continuation of the problem.  You aren't fixing the problem, you ARE the problem.   

Actually, many if not most instances of intolerance violate our founding documents.  America and Americans invented inclusivity.  It is nearly a unique American phenomenon. 

Otherwise, you can justify any bad behavior by just saying "that person is a jerk".
If someone is behaving atrociously you have every right to point out their atrocious behavior.  You have every right to distance yourself from them and probably should.  Life is short.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Mase on September 20, 2016, 01:59:15 PM

If someone is behaving atrociously you have every right to point out their atrocious behavior.  You have every right to distance yourself from them and probably should.  Life is short.

Yes, distance yourself from them.  Don't attempt to distance them from everyone else.
Title: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: nddons on September 20, 2016, 02:29:27 PM
Tolerance means not discriminating against someone on the basis of ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, or other non-personal factors.  It does not mean disliking assholes.
In what world is THAT a definition of tolerance?  It is not a legal term, Doctor.

Tolerance is the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with, according to Oxford.

He was spot on with his use of the term. You wanted it to mean something that it does not mean.

So much for academics.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: bflynn on September 20, 2016, 05:40:00 PM
you are tolerant of groups, ideologies, religious leanings, all sorts of things.  Tolerance as applied to individuals is a very different concept.

Please explain the difference between an individual and group of one.  Are you saying that once you're down to being an individual you no longer matter?  Or that only individuals in a group matter?

You are either tolerant or you are not.  You either respect people or you do not.  There is no waffling on this and you ought to know that.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Steingar on September 20, 2016, 06:34:52 PM
According to you guys I have no right to dislike out and out assholes.  Whatever.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 20, 2016, 06:46:55 PM
According to you guys I have no right to dislike out and out assholes.  Whatever.

The problem with folks in the left is that they think anyone that doesn't think like them is an out and out asshole.  ;)
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Mase on September 20, 2016, 08:58:01 PM
According to you guys I have no right to dislike out and out assholes.  Whatever.

You can dislike them while still tolerating them, no?  Tolerance doesn't require liking or admiration.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: bflynn on September 21, 2016, 06:02:42 AM
Or don't explain.

You lose.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: DJTorrente on September 21, 2016, 07:51:28 AM
Wouldn't want that windbag anywhere near my alma mater.

Not sure why you would call Elizabeth Reichart a "windbag".  Ignorant, yes, but just because she talked with a reporter?  ;-)  Why do you hate women, you sexist misogynist!
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Number7 on September 21, 2016, 09:49:46 AM
Wouldn't want that windbag anywhere near my alma mater.

The guy who 'claims' to love free speech chimes in against it. how shocking.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Number7 on September 21, 2016, 09:51:54 AM
Ones that are acceptable to the students and faculty.

..and since the faculty practice indoctrination and forced subservience to the progressive agenda, you feel 'safe' in denying any other viewpoint, then covering it with stupid, insipid, lies.
Yep.
You are a progressive.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Steingar on September 21, 2016, 09:52:50 AM
The guy who 'claims' to love free speech chimes in against it. how shocking.

If students want to demonstrate on campus in support of Donald Trump, I'd personally protect their right to do so.  So long as they aren't interfering with University business they should have every right.  But I still don't want to see that lying piece of shit windbag anywhere near my beloved campus.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Number7 on September 21, 2016, 09:54:11 AM
If students want to demonstrate on campus in support of Donald Trump, I'd personally protect their right to do so.  So long as they aren't interfering with University business they should have every right.  But I still don't want to see that lying piece of shit windbag anywhere near my beloved campus.

Right.
You cover your intolerance and disrespect fo other view points with bullshit.
Congratulations.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Anthony on September 21, 2016, 12:09:14 PM
Just more hypocrisy Michael.  You should be ashamed of yourself. 
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: bflynn on September 21, 2016, 12:20:19 PM
But I still don't want to see that lying piece of shit windbag anywhere near my beloved campus.

Because you're so tolerant, supportive of diversity and open to having all ideas on the table.

Shame on you indeed.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Anthony on September 21, 2016, 12:32:43 PM
Because you're so tolerant, supportive of diversity and open to having all ideas on the table.

Shame on you indeed.

Unfortunately, he is typical of academia.  They are only tolerant if what you say agrees with their views, and far left, radical anti American agenda.  They are all BOLSHEVIKS. 
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Number7 on September 22, 2016, 07:24:08 AM
In defense of the supposed perfesser, he has been brainwashed throughout his adult life to accept imbecilic definitions of words as long as the 'new politically correct (communist)' definition of those words support the progressive agenda.
It's not like Micheal is permitted to exercise free thought, anymore than he allows it in his classes.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Jaybird180 on September 22, 2016, 07:32:14 AM
In what world is THAT a definition of tolerance?  It is not a legal term, Doctor.

Tolerance is the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with, according to Oxford.

He was spot on with his use of the term. You wanted it to mean something that it does not mean.

So much for academics.

And Mr. Oxford should know that you cannot use the word to provide a definition.
Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 22, 2016, 07:35:06 AM
And Mr. Oxford should know that you cannot use the word to provide a definition.

He didn't.  Tolerance and tolerate are two different words.



Title: Re: You can't make this "diversity" stuff up
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 22, 2016, 09:29:46 AM
According to you guys I have no right to dislike out and out assholes.  Whatever.
How do you get that? The salient issue here is that everyone is saying you can dislike whoever you want to dislike, but that others have the right to disagree, and voices should not be silenced or banned because you or anyone else disagrees with what those voices are saying.