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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 08:54:51 AM

Title: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 08:54:51 AM
Thanks to Joe Biden being wrong, once again, on foreign policy, the US has pulled out of Afghanistan and the countries president has fled.  It’s over. 

And of course, we left the Taliban immense stashes of weapons and hardware.  And those Al Qaeda combatants that were jailed there?  Released. 

We will see these weapons again, being used against us. We will see Al Qaeda begin to reenergize and build up. 

 Joe Biden, through ineptitude and ignorance has now made the world more dangerous. 

But hey, at least we are rid of the mean tweets, right?   
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 08:59:56 AM
This will be removed soon.

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 09:06:54 AM
And China now backs the Taliban.   

The US is the laughing stock of the world right now.   

But hey, no mean tweets to hurt the snowflakes, so must be worth it, right?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 09:16:45 AM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 15, 2021, 09:47:06 AM
And don’t forget, anyone who disagrees with doctor quackenheimer fauci is an extremely violent domestic terrorist. DHS said so. That means it is double true.
Fucking democrat assholes.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 15, 2021, 09:52:30 AM
Nope.  It's all Trump's fault.  Biden said so.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9895429/Biden-blames-Trump-leaving-Taliban-strongest-position-militarily-2001.html
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2021, 10:15:44 AM
Biden screwed it up when he broke the treaty. This is all on Biden.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 10:57:55 AM
Biden screwed it up when he broke the treaty. This is all on Biden.

The Ministry of Truth will have those videos removed, and the MSM will not speak of this.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 15, 2021, 11:14:55 AM
The Ministry of Truth will have those videos removed, and the MSM will not speak of this.

but first they need to see who access those videos...
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 11:26:31 AM
Funny, dozens upon dozens of people are reposting these videos on YT.   

The censors will be working overtime.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 11:30:04 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-get-wrong-jake-tapper-confronts-secretary-blinken-bidens-afghanistan-blunder-tragic-foreign-policy-disaster-video/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 02:54:14 PM
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/81421-1

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Pelosi Statement on Afghanistan
AUGUST 14, 2021 PRESS RELEASE
San Francisco — Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement on the situation in Afghanistan:

“The President is to be commended for the clarity of purpose of his statement on Afghanistan and the actions he has taken.   
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 03:22:30 PM
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/81421-1 (https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/81421-1)
What fucking actions?  He told us this would not happen. Now the fucking Taliban is getting a hold of our stuff and there is word of Afghan soldiers taking our stuff to Iran.  This is totally fucked up.

Of course, it is Trump's fault
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 03:31:11 PM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/trump-biden-afghan.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 04:45:34 PM
So, Biden will talk to us in a few days, interpreted as, we're trying to come up with a story to hang this on Trump.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 15, 2021, 04:58:41 PM
Democrats have been trying to figure out how to lose this war for 20 years. Anything to “prove” that Republicans were wrong.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 04:59:19 PM
Biden now has the MSM questioning what the hell is going on. 

Blinken through him under the bus.  This is a massive failure, and the videos of Biden telling everyone this just couldn’t happen are damning. 

Don’t look for Biden in any public appearances soon.  And definitely no press.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 15, 2021, 05:19:56 PM
Biden now has the MSM questioning what the hell is going on. 

Blinken through him under the bus.  This is a massive failure, and the videos of Biden telling everyone this just couldn’t happen are damning. 

Don’t look for Biden in any public appearances soon.  And definitely no press.

Biden will go underground, but he wasn't calling the shots on this nor anything else.   His controllers, Tech, MEDIA giants, China,  Soros etc, wanted this instability.   Why?  I don't know.  Or maybe they just fucked up.

Excuse to install Harris?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 05:39:36 PM
Biden will go underground, but he wasn't calling the shots on this nor anything else.   His controllers, Tech, MEDIA giants, China,  Soros etc, wanted this instability.   Why?  I don't know.  Or maybe they just fucked up.

Excuse to install Harris?

No, this is yet another example of “believing your own bullshit”.

They told themselves the Afghan military was well trained, and well equipped (it wasn’t). The woke military commanders went along with the steady stream of bullshit.

Biden wanted this withdrawal before the twentieth anniversary of 9/11 so he could show an accomplishment. His handlers, being the radical communist they are, were also convinced all was well and this would be a crowning moment. 

 And it’s come crashing down all around them. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 05:43:04 PM
Many Americans are trapped in Afghanistan, and all the Biden team can do is tell them “shelter in place”.

 What a fuckin’ clown show. 

 But hey, no mean tweets.  ::)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2021, 06:28:08 PM
The Biden administration is a catastrophe on every front.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 06:29:43 PM
Biden will go underground, but he wasn't calling the shots on this nor anything else.   His controllers, Tech, MEDIA giants, China,  Soros etc, wanted this instability.   Why?  I don't know.  Or maybe they just fucked up.

Excuse to install Harris?
I thought Harris was taking credit for this decision.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 06:32:04 PM
At least we've been educating our combat troops on CRT and Equity.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 06:34:26 PM
What message are we sending China r.e. Taiwan?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 06:34:50 PM
We are so fucked.   :(
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 06:42:20 PM
What message are we sending China r.e. Taiwan?

It’s just a matter of time for Taiwan to fall to China.

Biden has shown the world how weak he is, and his woke military command is useless. 

But the snowflakes aren’t getting hurt over tweets any longer, so must be worth it. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 06:51:18 PM
China has already broadcast to Hong Kong that they should not expect the U.S. to support them.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 07:09:18 PM
China has already broadcast to Hong Kong that they should not expect the U.S. to support them.

Sad. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 15, 2021, 07:11:42 PM
This is just fucking sickening.  I will not be able to understand how anyone on the left can condone what has happened and the fact that our President has not been on TV to comment.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 07:18:45 PM
This is just fucking sickening.  I will not be able to understand how anyone on the left can condone what has happened and the fact that our President has not been on TV to comment.

Orange Man Bad. 

And his mean tweets.    So Biden can wreck the country, destroy Afghanistan, trash the constitution, open the borders, cause record inflation, etc, etc, and the leftist can only say how great full they are Trump wasn’t re-elected.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 15, 2021, 07:20:10 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/enemies-people-taliban-terrorist-leader-zabihullah-majahid-twitter-president-trump-banned/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 15, 2021, 07:30:29 PM
So, Biden will talk to us in a few days, interpreted as, we're trying to come up with a story to hang this on Trump.

The fucktard democrats don't need fed a story.
They live and die on whatever bullshit they are told to believe and don't spend a second considering how pathetic it is.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 15, 2021, 07:37:15 PM
This is just fucking sickening.  I will not be able to understand how anyone on the left can condone what has happened and the fact that our President has not been on TV to comment.

Biden’s going to get us into fucking World War 3.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2021, 04:50:30 AM
Biden’s going to get us into fucking World War 3.

...and then the senile imposter will blame President Trump.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 16, 2021, 04:51:52 AM
Yup - Trump's fault because he couldn't beat that clown.

(pay no attention to the election fraud....)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Mr Pou on August 16, 2021, 04:58:53 AM
Unsurprising as Muslim sympathetic Obama is the puppetmaster here. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 16, 2021, 05:00:02 AM
Now Jen Psaki is taking the week off.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 16, 2021, 05:02:04 AM
Hearing that commercial traffic has been stopped and only military aircraft are allowed in and out.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 05:12:03 AM
Biden’s going to get us into fucking World War 3.

 Not really.

 What he is doing is enabling China to expand by taking over Taiwan and Hong Kong, plus take control of the South China Sea basin.  The various countries of SE Asia will essentially be control by Beijing.  The CCP will then set the sights on South Korea and Japan.

 China is building a highway into Afghanistan and is further solidifying their presence in the ME.

 Russia will be emboldened to start taking territory as they know they will have no opposition from the US (other than sabre rattling).

 Our military will continue to be neutered by the Democrat Communist.  In the eyes of the DC the military is only there to control it's own citizens, not defend the country.

 Our intelligence community, at one time the envy of the world, is now so weaponized they can't do their jobs on foreign adversaries but instead focus on domestic terrorist, i.e. citizens who don't comply.

  Everything in play will have a consequence the democrat communist don't see coming, which is a further breaking apart of the states.  At the pace and protectory we are currently on, the US will break up eventually, which will greatly please the CCP and our other adversaries.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 05:12:47 AM
Now Jen Psaki is taking the week off.

She has to figure out how to circle back.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 05:21:42 AM
https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKabul/status/1400060130243362816
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 05:37:33 AM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2021, 05:46:10 AM
https://twitter.com/USEmbassyKabul/status/1400060130243362816

Fucking retard liberals have no fucking clue.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 05:46:41 AM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/kabul-airport-1.jpg)

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/joe-bidens-saigon-man-falls-plane-fleeing-kabul-airport-crowds-airport-worse-withdrawal-vietnam/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2021, 06:03:01 AM
Not really.

 What he is doing is enabling China to expand by taking over Taiwan and Hong Kong, plus take control of the South China Sea basin.  The various countries of SE Asia will essentially be control by Beijing.  The CCP will then set the sights on South Korea and Japan.

 China is building a highway into Afghanistan and is further solidifying their presence in the ME.

 Russia will be emboldened to start taking territory as they know they will have no opposition from the US (other than sabre rattling).

 Our military will continue to be neutered by the Democrat Communist.  In the eyes of the DC the military is only there to control it's own citizens, not defend the country.

 Our intelligence community, at one time the envy of the world, is now so weaponized they can't do their jobs on foreign adversaries but instead focus on domestic terrorist, i.e. citizens who don't comply.

  Everything in play will have a consequence the democrat communist don't see coming, which is a further breaking apart of the states.  At the pace and protectory we are currently on, the US will break up eventually, which will greatly please the CCP and our other adversaries.

Right now Russia looks pretty tame and attractive as a place to live if you’re a professional in one of the two cities and not a country peasant, and don’t mind snow.  Compared to how the US is about to fall apart. They don’t have wokeness, they don’t have an invasion of illegals. They don’t have Marxist rioting in the streets. Their tax rate is a flat 13%. They even learned their lesson about lockdowns and put an end to that after the first round. They only locked down for two months and haven’t had any since, because, apparently Putin gives a fuck about his economy.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 06:04:11 AM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1427215059676192771
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 06:06:44 AM
Betcha Joe and his handlers wish they had the internet kill switch in place right now.

Be prepared for a huge false flag event to happen soon.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2021, 06:07:31 AM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1427215059676192771

Brave, Inclusive Biden Administration Praises Taliban for wearing masks while slaughtering peasants.
.
(https://media.babylonbee.com/articles/article-9256-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2021, 07:00:24 AM
It is SO COMFORTING knowing that the senile imposter is re-imagining the traitor obama's policy of arming the taliban.

It must give the moron democrats such confidence.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 07:18:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/mdHtjiv.png)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 16, 2021, 07:25:19 AM
Betcha Joe and his handlers wish they had the internet kill switch in place right now.

Be prepared for a huge false flag event to happen soon.
I'm very surprised that Twitter has allowed so much stuff to be posted.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Mr Pou on August 16, 2021, 07:35:01 AM
You'd think sooner or later even some of the dems have to realize they've been sold a pig in a poke.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 16, 2021, 07:40:55 AM
They haven't been given permission.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 07:44:31 AM
I'm very surprised that Twitter has allowed so much stuff to be posted.

Big tech is being overwhelmed.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 16, 2021, 08:12:53 AM
Big tech is being overwhelmed.
I think that's it.  Twitter and Facebook can't delete the objectionable content fast enough.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 16, 2021, 08:15:45 AM
It's all OK.  What's happening in Afghanistan is just a peaceful demonstration.
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/08/16/cnns-ward-taliban-chanting-death-to-america-but-they-seem-friendly-at-the-same-time/
Quote
“They’re just chanting, ‘Death to America,’ but they seem friendly at the same time,” Ward advised. “It’s utterly bizarre.”
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 09:48:08 AM
Get ready for "Trump's fault" to be repeated over and over.

Oh, and don't look for the senile pedofile to take press questions.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/developing-joe-biden-awakened-slumber-will-return-white-house-remarks-historic-collapse-afghanistan-345-et/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 09:51:39 AM
https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1427282460824440837
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 10:12:27 AM
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/pentagon-preparing-to-house-30000-afghan-refugees-in-u-s/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 16, 2021, 10:38:27 AM
Bongino had a great interview with Pete Hegseth.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2021, 11:00:04 AM
I saw a video this AM (can’t find it now) with Afghans  on a C-17 and then falling off after rotation and liftoff.

On the one hand it’s a humanitarian crisis like we haven’t seen since 1975.

On the other hand, these are able bodied men who would rather leave their families and kill themselves in the process than fight to save their own fucking country.

These people aren’t men at all. Why did we lose a single American life for them? 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 16, 2021, 11:01:09 AM
I saw a video this AM (can’t find it now) with Afghans  on a C-17 and then falling off after rotation and liftoff.

On the one hand it’s a humanitarian crisis like we haven’t seen since 1975.

On the other hand, these are able bodied men who would rather leave their families and kill themselves in the process than fight to save their own fucking country.

These people aren’t men at all. Why did we lose a single American life for them?  (https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji35.png)

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 16, 2021, 11:26:24 AM
Shared by a FB friend....

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 11:47:34 AM
Why did we lose a single American life for them? 

  Billions upon billions were made by the MIC.    Those same contractors were recently reassured by the Biden Administration that their contracts would continue in Afghanistan, don't worry.    Those contractors now have Americans stuck inside Afghanistan, and Biden is prioritizing Afghan nationals over US citizens.

 But don't worry for the MIC.  A ground war with Iran is just around the corner.   It's just business after all.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 12:36:35 PM
(https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/biden-taliban-ice-cream.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2021, 12:39:33 PM
  Billions upon billions were made by the MIC.    Those same contractors were recently reassured by the Biden Administration that their contracts would continue in Afghanistan, don't worry.    Those contractors now have Americans stuck inside Afghanistan, and Biden is prioritizing Afghan nationals over US citizens.

 But don't worry for the MIC.  A ground war with Iran is just around the corner.   It's just business after all.
A competent CIC would have accumulated all US military assets into a valley near the Kabul airport, fill them with explosives, and drop a few Daisy Cutter bombs on that site.

Now Iran, China and Russia have full and complete access to our technology.

Biden just aided and abetted the enemy. That’s treason.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 16, 2021, 01:44:50 PM
A competent CIC would have…

Yes, so it’s perfectly understandable why we’re in this mess.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 01:57:09 PM
As predicted.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-refuses-take-questions-reporters-blaming-trump-afghanistan-disaster-will-return-camp-david-afternoon-video/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2021, 02:47:11 PM
I wonder how many Americans are on this C-17?

Looks like they are importing Democrat voters by the airplane load.

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210816/f9cbceb29bb99ad9917fff2460ed0d69.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 16, 2021, 03:02:46 PM
I wonder how many Americans are on this C-17?

Looks like they are importing Democrat voters by the airplane load.


why would they?  they already have these:

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 03:19:21 PM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/IMG_4116.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 03:53:57 PM
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/americans-will-not-be-given-priority-in-kabul-airlift/

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Joe Biden is not planning to prioritize thousands of American citizens stranded in evacuations from Afghanistan, as the country falls similar to that of the Fall of Saigon in 1975.

 

Pentagon press secretary John Kirby confirmed to Fox News on Sunday evening that the administration will not give priority evacuation to Americans in Afghanistan over Afghans applying for visas.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 16, 2021, 03:58:04 PM
SMH

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 03:58:47 PM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 16, 2021, 04:42:54 PM
why would they?  they already have these:
Good point.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 04:50:26 PM
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-mocks-embarrassed-arrogant-us-forces-while-hailing-friendly-relations-taliban

Quote
Chinese, Iranian, and to some degree Russian media are reacting with glee over humiliating scenes of America's exit plans in chaos coming out of Kabul Sunday into Monday.

Perhaps as expected, Chinese state-run Global Times featured it's most prominent headline Monday with the words "Taliban's rapid victory embarrasses US, smashes image, arrogance." Alternately Beijing is claiming to "respect" Afghans' choice - as the same article reads. And then there's outright mocking - as is seen by the Global Times' editor...
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 04:53:33 PM
https://twitter.com/BoSnerdley/status/1427404149231128578
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 06:30:43 PM
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1427404167975428109/pu/vid/1280x720/3ew_ACn9iRgLL1E-.mp4?tag=12
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 16, 2021, 06:36:01 PM
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1427404167975428109/pu/vid/1280x720/3ew_ACn9iRgLL1E-.mp4?tag=12

Holy shit!

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 06:45:07 PM
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1427437410623934471
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 16, 2021, 07:51:49 PM
Think about this, there were some 800 Afghans on that plane, what's the chance some of those were actually Taliban.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 16, 2021, 08:23:15 PM
Think about this, there were some 800 Afghans on that plane, what's thew chance some of those were actually Taliban.

Or Al Qaeda
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 16, 2021, 09:58:14 PM
The one thing I cannot get past - how can such a piece of crap person existing in this world to not understand what everyone predicted would happen in Afghanistan, let alone hold the office of president?  It is more fucked up than Hogan’s goat. 

I’d say Biden is the dumbest son of a bitch that ever lived, but I don’t think that is fair to real SOBs.

Democrats own it all - the child rapes, the executions, the shitting on the graves of every serviceman who died and on the ones who came back with less than they went over with.

Go on, ask me how I really feel.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 17, 2021, 01:36:56 AM
Democrats love to embarrass the U.S. on the world stage.  It happens over and over and over.  It's as if they want to signal weakness and incompetence to our enemies and allies.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 17, 2021, 04:03:59 AM

Go on, ask me how I really feel.

ok.

don't sugar coat, tell us how you really feel.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on August 17, 2021, 04:07:25 AM
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1427437410623934471
Quote
We demand they form a government that is united, representative and inclusive

So what do we do if they don't? Invade? 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on August 17, 2021, 04:08:15 AM
Or Al Qaeda
Or even worse; COVID POSITIVE!
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Bamaflyer on August 17, 2021, 05:08:09 AM
Or even worse; COVID POSITIVE!

Think we got that covered at the border.   :-\
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 17, 2021, 05:28:18 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210817/e32993cf1eb9bb3966a04aa8fe0e9877.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2021, 05:42:24 AM
Elections have consequences.

Stolen elections have dire consequences.


If anything, the American people are now witnessing the last 6 months of a reckless administration and an inept president, and seeing how much damage they are creating.   Vote and Voter integrity should now be first and foremost.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 17, 2021, 06:36:19 AM
Elections have consequences.

Stolen elections have dire consequences.


If anything, the American people are now witnessing the last 6 months of a reckless administration and an inept president, and seeing how much damage they are creating.   Vote and Voter integrity should now be first and foremost.

Should, but won't happen. Too many voters hate America and what it stands for. They would rather destroy it than work to fix it's problems. As long as their feelings aren't hurt and the government keeps giving them other peoples money, they are fine with the status quo.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 17, 2021, 06:45:29 AM
Or Al Qaeda

Honestly I'm surprised they didn't slip people wearing suicide vests on or near the planes. The image of a plane taking off full of refugees then exploding in air or crowds on the ground being blown up is something our country and the world won't be able to handle.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 17, 2021, 07:02:47 AM
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210817/e32993cf1eb9bb3966a04aa8fe0e9877.jpg)

A conspiracy theory from a right wing domestic terrorist!
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2021, 12:48:50 PM
(https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/marines-vaccine.jpeg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2021, 12:53:59 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1427421688141123584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1427421688141123584%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fthings-that-make-you-go-hmmm%2F
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 17, 2021, 01:23:32 PM
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1427421688141123584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1427421688141123584%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fthings-that-make-you-go-hmmm%2F

Wow, that was very powerful, and on MSNBC no less.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 17, 2021, 02:19:58 PM
Wow, that was very powerful, and on MSNBC no less.
I would gave liked to see John Brennan’s response. That Communist is one of the most dangerous spooks in the swamp right now.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2021, 02:32:27 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/guessed-obamas-taliban-five-instrumental-overthrow-afghanistan/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2021, 02:39:06 PM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 17, 2021, 03:20:42 PM


Fucking morons stole the election and are giving away our country and all the fucking pansy democrat, as hole s can do is attack President Trump.

Total fucking twats.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 17, 2021, 07:30:16 PM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 18, 2021, 04:21:45 AM
Someone hacked a digital billboard in Wilmington, NC

https://twitter.com/LHatesYouALot/status/1427832475242442759?s=20
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 18, 2021, 04:32:59 AM
It's time to remove Biden. The dems would already have articles of impeachment written if it was Trump.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/no-plans-to-evacuate-americans-outside-kabul-report-says
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on August 18, 2021, 04:43:51 AM
It's time to remove Biden.
Then what?  He had the tremendous foresight to nominate Kamel as VP which practically made him "impeachment proof".

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The dems would already have articles of impeachment written if it was Trump.
That's true for sure.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 18, 2021, 04:47:36 AM
Then what?  He had the tremendous foresight to nominate Kamel as VP which practically made him "impeachment proof".
That's true for sure.

I look at Harris as a hidden blessing. She becomes president and she fucks up so bad, people may start to realize how incompetent and corrupt the dems really are and turn to republicans in the next election, if they don't screw up our country beyond the ability to fix it. Probably blowing smoke up my own ass thinking this way, but a guy can hope.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 05:21:51 AM
(https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/afghan-dead.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 05:27:15 AM
The Biden Administration has collapsed.   The next several days and weeks will be very dangerous for our country, and the world.

Be ready for false flag events, and censorship/misinformation campaigns that will make what we've already seen look tame.

 Also, keep an eye on congress as they rapidly push through legislation while they think no one is looking (Pelosi is already doing this).
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 18, 2021, 05:40:44 AM
(https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/afghan-dead.jpg)

Wow. I’m surprised he (they, there were two of them) were able to hang on as long as they did. That must have been quite a ride.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 05:46:13 AM
Wow. I’m surprised he (they, there were two of them) were able to hang on as long as they did. That must have been quite a ride.

 Right up until it wasn't.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 18, 2021, 06:25:19 AM
Right up until it wasn't.

Then they got to enjoy a nice free fall - for too short a time. A stunning example of what people will do to escape brutal authoritarianism. I predict that photo will become iconic.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 06:25:36 AM
https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1427793489971007492
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 18, 2021, 06:49:39 AM
Then they got to enjoy a nice free fall - for too short a time. A stunning example of what people will do to escape brutal authoritarianism. I predict that photo will become iconic.

Everytime some leftist asshole bitches about our country, that pic should be tatooed on their body somewhere as a reminder what a shitty country really is.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 06:58:29 AM
The Biden Administration has collapsed.   The next several days and weeks will be very dangerous for our country, and the world.

Be ready for false flag events, and censorship/misinformation campaigns that will make what we've already seen look tame.

 Also, keep an eye on congress as they rapidly push through legislation while they think no one is looking (Pelosi is already doing this).


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/18/nolte-theres-nothing-normal-about-joe-biden-going-awol-for-four-days/


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We are entering day five of a crisis where thousands of American civilians are trapped in Afghanistan, and the president of the United States was … on vacation, is still nowhere to be found, is not talking to the American public, is totally incommunicado, is not even releasing statements or speaking to other world leaders.

This is not normal.

At first, over the weekend, as this crisis unfolded, I thought His Fraudulency Joe Biden’s decision to remain at Camp David was a smart one. One way to downplay a calamity is to not add to the drama with presidential appearances. The thinking being: Americans want out of Afghanistan. Let the country fall. Just make sure the embassy is evacuated.

Well, little did I know, this administration was so caught off guard by the Taliban, there are still thousands of American civilians trapped in a country overrun by Islamic terrorists, which is the equivalent of being stuck behind enemy lines during World War II with a Nazi takeover.

Let’s examine just how abnormal and disturbing Biden’s behavior is…

We have thousands of American civilians — civilians—  stuck in a country overrun by jihadists who hate us, the U.S. government has already admitted it has no idea when it can get them out, has already admitted it cannot protect them as they make their way to an airport where a flight might not be waiting for them, and the president of the United States, until late last night, was hiding out at Camp David.

What’s more, the messaging from the White House is in utter disarray. White House Press Secretary Lyin’ Ginger can’t even guarantee every American will make it out safely… And the president of the United States is hiding out at Camp David.

And when I say “hiding out,” that’s not hyperbole.

Biden was nowhere to be seen. He didn’t walk out of his Camp David retreat to take a few questions or make a statement. He’s still not releasing statements that say things like: Nothing will be left undone to ensure every American is evacuated safely. Biden isn’t doing anything. He’s hiding. Even today, back at the White House, he’s hiding. Thousands of Americans are stuck in a foreign country overrun by our mortal enemies, and their president’s gone AWOL for four full days.

This is not normal.

And where’s her Vice Fraudulency Kamala Harris? There are rumors she’s keeping hours that would embarrass a banker, strolling into the office at, say, 9:30, 9:45…

This is not normal.

When thousands of America are trapped behind enemy lines, Americans want to hear from their president. They want to know the man they hired to do the job is doing the job, is in control, is engaged, and is on top of things. They want to be reassured someone is in charge.

This is not normal.

Never in the history of American politics have I seen a president disappear during a crisis like this, not with so many American lives at risk.

But I have seen this elsewhere…

In Russia, 1941, when Josef Stalin had a psychotic break.

In June of 1941, about an hour after Stalin went to bed and two years after signing a non-aggression pact with Hitler’s Germany, Hitler launched Operation Barbarossa, a full-fledged invasion of the Soviet Union.

Stalin was so shocked, so caught off guard, so unprepared, so humiliated, he fell completely apart, and for three full days, as the Nazis made historic advances, killed thousands, and drove towards Moscow, Stalin refused to do anything. He was completely out of touch as his country was ravaged. The reasons for his breakdown are obvious: every disastrous decision, every strategic and political mistake he’d made with Germany, had just come home to roost, and he had no idea what to do about it.

Eventually, Stalin got his act together and repelled the German invaders, but the cost to his country and tens of millions of Russians was almost unfathomable. Hopefully, that will not be the case here.

But that is exactly what an already mentally reduced Joe Biden is facing — the terrible, world-shaking consequences of his terrible decisions. He stupidly broke the Trump administration’s agreement with the Taliban, which gave the Taliban license to break all their promises and invade. He stupidly removed our troops before he removed our people. He stupidly removed our troops in the summer, when the Taliban are organized, instead of the winter, when they are all back home waiting out the frigid weather. He stupidly left behind billions and billions and billions of dollars in fully operational U.S. war equipment…

And now Biden’s up and disappeared, gone into hiding, gone AWOL… His administration is in utter disarray just like any government would be without someone in charge.

This is not normal.

We are entering the fifth day of the greatest foreign policy/human rights disaster in decades and the president of the United States is in hiding.

Thousands of Americans’ lives are at risk, and the president of the United States is hiding out, is incommunicado…

Something is seriously wrong with Joe Biden.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 18, 2021, 06:59:24 AM
Then they got to enjoy a nice free fall - for too short a time. A stunning example of what people will do to escape brutal authoritarianism. I predict that photo will become iconic.

If this were during Trump's Presidency, yes.  Now with Biden/DNC and their controllers in power, it will be suppressed by the vast majority of Media and Social Media. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 18, 2021, 07:33:24 AM
The Biden Administration has collapsed.   The next several days and weeks will be very dangerous for our country, and the world.

Be ready for false flag events, and censorship/misinformation campaigns that will make what we've already seen look tame.

 Also, keep an eye on congress as they rapidly push through legislation while they think no one is looking (Pelosi is already doing this).
Prescient. I’ve had those feelings myself. Particularly that the administration has collapsed.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 18, 2021, 07:34:29 AM
Then what?  He had the tremendous foresight to nominate Kamel as VP which practically made him "impeachment proof".
That's true for sure.

You mean the same way Obarry put Xiden in the VP slot?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 18, 2021, 07:56:43 AM
I look at Harris as a hidden blessing. She becomes president and she fucks up so bad, people may start to realize how incompetent and corrupt the dems really are and turn to republicans in the next election, if they don't screw up our country beyond the ability to fix it. Probably blowing smoke up my own ass thinking this way, but a guy can hope.

I think you are right. If Biden strokes out or is removed from office and we get Harris, she is so bad, even worse than Biden because at least Biden has the excuse of being demented. Harris is just psychotic. She is even hated among Democrats. Remember she couldn’t even make it through the primaries. She will fuck up so bad, even if the administration isn’t done with now she’ll finish it off. There will be such backlash against the Democrats in 2022 and 2024 that this administration can be consigned to history as one of the most disastrous administrations of all time. IF we don’t fail to fix the goddamn elections. Or they haven’t managed to purge the military enough that they can achieve a classic coup.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 10:35:26 AM
https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1427784320048144385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1427784320048144385%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2021%2F08%2Fwatch-trump-releases-new-ad-slamming-biden-worse-saigon%2F
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Mr Pou on August 18, 2021, 11:04:43 AM
If this were during Trump's Presidency, yes.  Now with Biden/DNC and their controllers in power, it will be suppressed by the vast majority of Media and Social Media.

The Afghanistan situation is no longer "front page" news on many news sites already, the suppression has begun.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: texasag93 on August 18, 2021, 11:27:01 AM
I think you are right. If Biden strokes out or is removed from office and we get Harris, she is so bad, even worse than Biden because at least Biden has the excuse of being demented. Harris is just psychotic. She is even hated among Democrats. Remember she couldn’t even make it through the primaries. She will fuck up so bad, even if the administration isn’t done with now she’ll finish it off. There will be such backlash against the Democrats in 2022 and 2024 that this administration can be consigned to history as one of the most disastrous administrations of all time. IF we don’t fail to fix the goddamn elections. Or they haven’t managed to purge the military enough that they can achieve a classic coup.

We need to get control of the House, otherwise Kameltoe will resign and Nancy will become president.  What a f***ing nightmare.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 18, 2021, 11:50:27 AM
We need to get control of the House, otherwise Kameltoe will resign and Nancy will become president.  What a f***ing nightmare.
Kameltoe appoints someone even worse than Nancy to be VP and THEN resigns.  Although it's hard to imagine who would be worse than those two.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 12:38:54 PM
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1427928564985389063/pu/vid/480x270/P1gaS8WHwjfp0i46.mp4?tag=12
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 18, 2021, 01:00:50 PM
Kameltoe appoints someone even worse than Nancy to be VP and THEN resigns.  Although it's hard to imagine who would be worse than those two.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.ee507cd7addf7570a88929cf111129f4?rik=MSvdSXbt6Woh%2fw&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)


Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 18, 2021, 01:01:24 PM
Kameltoe appoints someone even worse than Nancy to be VP and THEN resigns.  Although it's hard to imagine who would be worse than those two.

I recently wasted 90 minutes of my time on a webinar hosted by the DHS.  85 minutes of mindless blather that would make an excellent source for buzzword bingo and 5 minutes of pointing the audience to online resources.

Why mention this?  because the 'crats doing the webinar would probably be worse than those two.

Title: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 18, 2021, 03:54:05 PM
Too soon? 

You’ve been warned.


























Alright, here you go.



(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210818/4d0ee95be7cddccfb2e4925ad06ae6cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 18, 2021, 04:08:34 PM
yup.  too soon

waaaaaay too soon
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 04:11:11 PM
Ratingly's headline today

(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5649.0;attach=2099;image)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 18, 2021, 04:19:53 PM
Kameltoe appoints someone even worse than Nancy to be VP and THEN resigns.  Although it's hard to imagine who would be worse than those two.

WHEN the senile imposter r is forced from office, kameltoe will quickly be pushed aside for butt boy, buutigigeh(misspelling intentional).
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 04:38:53 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/biden-effect-us-lost-several-military-aircraft-flown-afghanistan-no-idea-many-lost-video/

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During their totally pathetic press conference today at the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin and woke General Mark Milley admitted that Afghan pilots flew several US aircraft out of the country. They think they were flown to Uzbekistan or Tajikistan but they are not sure.

They also have no idea how many were taken.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 18, 2021, 04:48:28 PM
SMH
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: texasag93 on August 18, 2021, 05:04:28 PM
yup.  too soon

waaaaaay too soon

No.  Make people understand the stupid shit this president's team did.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 18, 2021, 05:09:15 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42040/dozens-of-u-s-bought-afghan-air-force-aircraft-are-now-orphaned-at-an-uzbek-airfield
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 18, 2021, 06:00:58 PM
WHEN the senile imposter r is forced from office, kameltoe will quickly be pushed aside for butt boy, buutigigeh(misspelling intentional).
That’s a complicated iteration. “Buttjizz” is easier.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 18, 2021, 06:02:20 PM
yup.  too soon

waaaaaay too soon
Fortunately this is Pilot Spin.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 18, 2021, 06:04:05 PM
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42040/dozens-of-u-s-bought-afghan-air-force-aircraft-are-now-orphaned-at-an-uzbek-airfield
Madness. Daisy cutters are needed.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 18, 2021, 07:17:17 PM
yup.  too soon

waaaaaay too soon
Hey, that was four or five days ago.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 19, 2021, 07:01:47 AM
Madness. Daisy cutters are needed.

Had to educate myself.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1641411.stm
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 19, 2021, 07:32:37 AM
Holy shit this guy needs to go...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-no-one-being-killed-in-afghanistan-advisers-withdrawal
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2021, 07:34:05 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9JvidmWYAgxHda.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 19, 2021, 08:21:48 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/afghan-women-throwing-babies-over-barbed-wire-to-save-them-report?itm_source=parsely-api?utm_source=cnemail&utm_medium=email&utm_content=081921-news&utm_campaign=position1

Of course, babies aren’t a big concern of the Imposter and his hench-people.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2021, 09:09:27 AM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/18/lara-logan-carries-a-big-trumpet-about-afghanistan-if-the-u-s-government-wanted-it-to-be-different-it-would-be/

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Oh boy, Lara Logan appeared for an interview with Tucker Carlson [Full Article Here] and shouts a big trumpet.  In essence, Ms. Logan points out the current situation in Afghanistan is exactly the outcome those controlling the Biden administration want.   There is a benefit to someone or some group in the current outcome; because if there wasn’t, the outcome would be different.

I happen to agree with this perspective because there are so many options that could have been taken before this point in the crisis was reached. We have seen this play out before [Bathtub Principle] where a crisis is created because the crisis has a purpose.

In Libya rather than Hillary Clinton and CIA Director Leon Panetta getting busted for selling surface-to-air missiles (SAMS) to al-Qaeda (Operation Zero Footprint), the State Department and CIA -essentially brother and sister agencies- helped “the Benghazi rebels” take over the Kadaffi weapons caches.  If SAMS were then used elsewhere (Syria), well, they came from Kadaffi’s stores… see how that works?

Based on current political alignment, alliances, and the ideology behind who is in charge of specific U.S. government agencies, it can reasonably be assumed someone (insert Obama here) wants Pakistan and Iran to have advanced military technology via the stolen weapons we leave behind in Afghanistan.  Why? Because those same people already made money selling advanced military tech to Iran, and this ‘crisis’ provides cover when it shows up later in their arsenal.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2021, 10:45:42 AM
The first false flag has started

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/dc-revolutionary-there-are-5-bombs-planted-around-dc-that-will-blow-up-if-im-shot/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2021, 10:46:27 AM
And another

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/times-square-evacuated-bomb-threat/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 19, 2021, 10:59:30 AM
Whenever I hear about false flag operations I'm reminded of the fake Times square bomb scare when bathhouse Barry was President and getting hammered about some stupid shit he was into.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 19, 2021, 11:44:55 AM
Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

What nuttery.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 19, 2021, 11:46:06 AM
What if Afghanistan is the false flag????
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 19, 2021, 11:52:42 AM
Time to scare everyone that White Nationalists are the real terrorists and the Taliban are just peaceful protesters.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2021, 11:58:13 AM
Time to scare everyone that White Nationalists are the real terrorists and the Taliban are just peaceful protesters.

bingo.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2021, 12:22:01 PM
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5649.0;attach=2101;image)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 19, 2021, 01:16:50 PM
The DC (supposed) bomb guy thing is so fucking convenient and the claims about his demands seem like they were scripted BY those fucking FBi assholes.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 19, 2021, 02:00:39 PM
Yep.  From CNN:
On Roseberry's now-removed Facebook page, he frequently made pro-Trump posts and posted videos from former President Donald Trump's "Million MAGA March" on November 14.
In video posted Thursday, Roseberry called himself a "patriot." He said he doesn't care if Trump ever becomes president again but also that he thinks "all Democrats need to step down."

Clearly a white supremacist MAGA terrorist.  Look over there!  Shiny thing!  Squirrel!
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2021, 02:55:00 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9LQp9XXIAAtPmZ.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 19, 2021, 03:01:23 PM
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/state-department-demands-american-citizens-pay-for-their-own-flight-out-of-afghanistan/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 19, 2021, 03:02:50 PM
Almost unbelievable
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 19, 2021, 06:45:27 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9JvidmWYAgxHda.jpg)
Tucker discussed that portion of the transcript tonight. He couldn’t recall his son’s branch of service.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 19, 2021, 06:48:23 PM
What if Afghanistan is the false flag????
It is, according to an acquaintance who was in Naval intelligence.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 19, 2021, 06:50:56 PM
It is, according to an acquaintance who was in Naval intelligence.

Could be.  What's the end game?  Total lockdown here?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 19, 2021, 07:24:39 PM
Could be.  What's the end game?  Total lockdown here?
Worse. He’s hearing about major currency manipulation.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 19, 2021, 07:56:21 PM
Has anyone asked LeBron James what to do about Afghanistan yet?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 20, 2021, 04:41:15 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9909573/549M-planes-sold-scrap-176M-road-wasted-billions-Afghanistan.html
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: elwood blues on August 20, 2021, 07:32:59 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9909573/549M-planes-sold-scrap-176M-road-wasted-billions-Afghanistan.html

Liz Cheney would beg to differ.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 20, 2021, 10:22:19 AM
Following up on the POA thread - can anyone thing of anything that would get Biden to go back to Afghanistan?  Or has he completely fucked us all over over because he's a pansy ass coward with regards to standing up to anyone?  If you wanted to break his spine, you'd have to shove a broomstick up his ass first. 

No, I'm still not over this.  Not sure I every will.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 20, 2021, 10:27:53 AM
Following up on the POA thread - can anyone thing of anything that would get Biden to go back to Afghanistan?  Or has he completely fucked us all over over because he's a pansy ass coward with regards to standing up to anyone?  If you wanted to break his spine, you'd have to shove a broomstick up his ass first. 

No, I'm still not over this.  Not sure I every will.

Did N7 hack your account?

But to answer your questions:  No, Yes
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on August 20, 2021, 10:33:22 AM
Following up on the POA thread - can anyone thing of anything that would get Biden to go back to Afghanistan?  Or has he completely fucked us all over over because he's a pansy ass coward with regards to standing up to anyone?  If you wanted to break his spine, you'd have to shove a broomstick up his ass first. 

No, I'm still not over this.  Not sure I every will.
Well, he might go back in if they mistreat gays and transgenders or don't put enough women in charge or in school.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 20, 2021, 10:36:47 AM
Did N7 hack your account?

Super pissed still.  I have buddies who are still there.  It's personal for me. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 20, 2021, 10:49:36 AM
No, Afghanistan is done.  The next military adventure will be in Africa because Black Lives Matter.

https://www.army.mil/article/244223/600_soldiers_deploy_in_support_of_combined_joint_task_force_horn_of_africa
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 20, 2021, 10:56:21 AM
https://twitter.com/JamesWashngton/status/1428183925541806080
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 20, 2021, 11:26:11 AM
Well, he might go back in if they mistreat gays and transgenders or don't put enough women in charge or in school.

in other words, going back is a given...
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 20, 2021, 12:04:58 PM
Super pissed still.  I have buddies who are still there.  It's personal for me.
This was a withdrawal without honor. Sorry about your buddies. I hope they make it out.

Did you read Tom Clancy’s book Clear and Present Danger?  Where US troops were intentionally abandoned by the president’s henchmen? 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clear_and_Present_Danger

I pray this isn’t Biden’s puppemaster’s end goal.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on August 20, 2021, 12:41:42 PM
in other words, going back is a given...
Not really.  Remember that red line in the sand?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 20, 2021, 01:09:24 PM
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/abc-news-straight-up-calls-biden-a-liar/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 20, 2021, 04:24:45 PM
The MEDIA must be being told they want Harris installed.  God what a cluster.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 20, 2021, 04:45:25 PM
The MEDIA must be being told they want Harris installed.  God what a cluster.

I don't think the communist party (democrats) want anything to do with kamel-toe becoming CIC.
That would end their tie breaker advantage in the senate because I can't imagine any republicans voting to give that advantage away (maybe that fucking romney)...
It's going to get ugly going forward.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 20, 2021, 05:42:09 PM
Something to consider. 

If Kamala did become President, she then would appoint a new VP.  And that new VP will be a democrat, so the senate remains as is. 

However, the situation I see unfolding is the democrat communist will have no choice on the senile pedo but to remove him. And that backs them in a corner as they hate Kamala.  But behind Kamala is the drunken hag.   They never ever figured on this unraveling as quickly as it has. 

Before this month is out, I believe we will witness history.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 20, 2021, 06:30:31 PM
Something to consider. 

If Kamala did become President, she then would appoint a new VP.  And that new VP will be a democrat, so the senate remains as is. 

However, the situation I see unfolding is the democrat communist will have no choice on the senile pedo but to remove him. And that backs them in a corner as they hate Kamala.  But behind Kamala is the drunken hag.   They never ever figured on this unraveling as quickly as it has. 

Before this month is out, I believe we will witness history.

don't forget that any VP nomination has to be approved by both houses of congress.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 20, 2021, 06:46:43 PM
don't forget that any VP nomination has to be approved by both houses of congress.

With our current combination of democrat communist and RINO’s, I don’t see the obstacle.  ::)

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 20, 2021, 07:29:49 PM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 21, 2021, 10:40:45 AM
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5649.0;attach=2104;image)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 22, 2021, 07:03:15 AM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 22, 2021, 07:28:57 AM


I don’t disagree with her but there are different ways to look at it. I heard one young woman talk about how she had grown up hearing horror stories about the Taliban but she didn’t grow up with it, and being glad she could plan college, not have to wear the face covering and participate in society equally, and the shock now of that all being yanked away and being thrust back into what was to her a horrible history she had never lived but will now. So our presence there enabled a whole generation of young people to grow up relatively free.

On the other hand it’s not our responsibility to spend billions of taxpayer money to solve other people’s problems on the other side of the planet.

On the other other hand, our presence there for 20 years denied Al-Qaeda the use of Afghanistan to hide in and we haven’t had another 9/11 in that time so maybe our lives lost there at least bought us some safety.

On the other other hand and I think this is the most important point, if Trump were president he would have upheld the negotiated plan and we wouldn’t have this mess. Taliban would not be in Kabul right now. They might have eventually retaken it but our people would already have been evacuated and our military equipment gotten out. The Biden administration made a total wreck out of this.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on August 22, 2021, 09:27:38 AM
I don’t disagree with her but there are different ways to look at it. I heard one young woman talk about how she had grown up hearing horror stories about the Taliban but she didn’t grow up with it, and being glad she could plan college, not have to wear the face covering and participate in society equally, and the shock now of that all being yanked away and being thrust back into what was to her a horrible history she had never lived but will now. So our presence there enabled a whole generation of young people to grow up relatively free.

On the other hand it’s not our responsibility to spend billions of taxpayer money to solve other people’s problems on the other side of the planet.

On the other other hand, our presence there for 20 years denied Al-Qaeda the use of Afghanistan to hide in and we haven’t had another 9/11 in that time so maybe our lives lost there at least bought us some safety.

On the other other hand and I think this is the most important point, if Trump were president he would have upheld the negotiated plan and we wouldn’t have this mess. Taliban would not be in Kabul right now. They might have eventually retaken it but our people would already have been evacuated and our military equipment gotten out. The Biden administration made a total wreck out of this.
You finally got the vaccine, and now you have HOW MANY HANDS?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 22, 2021, 04:59:31 PM
https://www.change.org/p/president-of-the-united-states-resettle-afghan-migrants-in-greenville-de-and-other-upscale-suburbs/psf/promote_or_share
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on August 23, 2021, 06:30:25 AM
"‘We Don’t Have The Capacity To Collect Large Numbers Of People’, Says Administration..."

So...

All those children in cages at the border don't count anymore now that the senile imposter is in the White House?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 23, 2021, 06:44:16 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/last-meeting-angela-merkel-asks-putin-help-getting-afghan-mess/


Quote
German Chancellor Angela Merkel on Friday bypassed Joe Biden and the United States and asked Russian President Vladimir Putin for support in rescuing local Afghan forces after the Taliban takeover.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 23, 2021, 06:49:15 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/last-meeting-angela-merkel-asks-putin-help-getting-afghan-mess/

So, we are getting ready to send in 6000 troops and now the Russians will be there too. Funny how us and Russia often end up fighting on the same side. You’d think both of us superpowers hate Islamofascism. Wait… we do. Too bad the Democrats in the U.S. like plain old fascism.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 23, 2021, 06:54:16 AM
So, we are getting ready to send in 6000 troops and now the Russians will be there too. Funny how us and Russia often end up fighting on the same side. You’d think both of us superpowers hate Islamofascism. Wait… we do. Too bad the Democrats in the U.S. like plain old fascism.

 Funny how Germany keeps going back to Russia for help. 

 We would have been much better off in 1945 to have handed Germany over to the Russians and departed, IMO.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 23, 2021, 07:02:37 AM
Funny how Germany keeps going back to Russia for help. 

 We would have been much better off in 1945 to have handed Germany over to the Russians and departed, IMO.

Many Germans were happy to avoid being handed over to the Russians.

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 23, 2021, 08:20:50 AM
Maybe we and the Russians need to go in together like two parents and spank the hell out of the misbehaving Taliban. Then we can get back to bickering with each other.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 23, 2021, 08:24:50 AM
Hypothetically speaking....

What would happen if some rouge group in Kabul started shooting airliners down when they take off? 

By any measure of a normal world, that is an act of war.  A country that shoots down civilian airliners evacuating people from a war zone is a rouge nation and cannot be allowed to exist.  The United States would be completely justified to drop more troops in and it really would almost be mandated in order to secure the area.

But what would happen?  I bet they get another sternly worded press release.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 23, 2021, 08:28:30 AM
...

But what would happen?  I bet they get another sternly worded press release.

or sending lots of missles, like that mean boy clinton...

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 23, 2021, 09:24:41 AM
Hypothetically speaking....

What would happen if some rouge group in Kabul started shooting airliners down when they take off? 

By any measure of a normal world, that is an act of war.  A country that shoots down civilian airliners evacuating people from a war zone is a rouge nation and cannot be allowed to exist.  The United States would be completely justified to drop more troops in and it really would almost be mandated in order to secure the area.

But what would happen?  I bet they get another sternly worded press release.
Exactly.
US airliner: A strongly worded press release.
UK airliner: A "harrumph" and maybe a finger wag.
German airliner: Troops going in shooting.
Russian airliner: Nukes
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Jim Logajan on August 23, 2021, 09:52:13 AM
Hypothetically speaking....

What would happen if some rouge group in Kabul started shooting airliners down when they take off? 

By any measure of a normal world, that is an act of war.  A country that shoots down civilian airliners evacuating people from a war zone is a rouge nation and cannot be allowed to exist.  The United States would be completely justified to drop more troops in and it really would almost be mandated in order to secure the area.

But what would happen?  I bet they get another sternly worded press release.

Within two months after 9/11/01 the U.S. using its air power and a small number of elite ground forces to support the Afghan Northern Alliance had kicked Taliban forces from Mazar-i-Sharif  and Kabul. It shocked the U.S. command - they were expecting the Taliban to hold out for many months. Instead Taliban forces suddenly collapsed. The fortunes of both sides have changed hands over the years but U.S. forces remained dominant. From the Taliban perspective they’ve had their nose bloodied over the years by the U.S. who they know they can’t beat in any stand-up fight. Keep in mind they only just won because they were no longer fighting the U.S. So while some individual Taliban will beat or harm U.S. citizens, I would expect their leaders to issue orders that the bear not be poked further. (Besides, the Northern Alliance has just reformed to resist the Taliban: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Alliance#2021_Reformation_and_return (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Alliance#2021_Reformation_and_return))
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 23, 2021, 10:24:18 AM
Within two months after 9/11/01 the U.S. using its air power and a small number of elite ground forces to support the Afghan Northern Alliance had kicked Taliban forces from Mazar-i-Sharif  and Kabul. It shocked the U.S. command - they were expecting the Taliban to hold out for many months. Instead Taliban forces suddenly collapsed. The fortunes of both sides have changed hands over the years but U.S. forces remained dominant. From the Taliban perspective they’ve had their nose bloodied over the years by the U.S. who they know they can’t beat in any stand-up fight. Keep in mind they only just won because they were no longer fighting the U.S. So while some individual Taliban will beat or harm U.S. citizens, I would expect their leaders to issue orders that the bear not be poked further. (Besides, the Northern Alliance has just reformed to resist the Taliban: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Alliance#2021_Reformation_and_return (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Alliance#2021_Reformation_and_return))
I disagree. I think their leaders will continue to poke the bear, at least until the first Tuesday in November 2024. What are we going to do - fight them?  They know they have a patsy, and they will continue to be the bullies on the block until a bigger bully gets elected. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2021, 06:05:47 AM
 So now that Biden has equipped the Taliban with billions of dollars in weapons, ammunition, artillery, clothing, personal gear, drones and aircraft, how long will it take to leak out how the defense industry is supplying training and spares support through back channels?

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 24, 2021, 06:07:20 AM
Why do our ENEMIES get all the cool toys and we're banned from even thinking about it?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2021, 06:09:01 AM
Why do our ENEMIES get all the cool toys and we're banned from even thinking about it?

(https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/082/357/082/original/c1424d598519ee49.png)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2021, 06:11:35 AM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1430145866841706502
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 24, 2021, 06:34:53 AM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1430145866841706502

Fucking treason right there. Opening up our country and laying down the welcome mat for terrorists.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2021, 06:47:23 AM
Fucking treason right there. Opening up our country and laying down the welcome mat for terrorists.

 Under Xiden, American citizens are now domestic terrorist.   I'm old enough to remember how the democrat communist surrounded the Capital with 20,000 troops to protect themselves, but yet we can't use those same troops to get our citizens out of a country that Xiden handed over to the real terrorist.

 MSM is filled with videos of Afghani citizens being flown into various American citizens, being showered with praise and welcomed to their new country (all at the expense of the taxpayers) while American citizens are being kept away from the airport in Kabul.   

 Our southern border is being swamped with people from all over the world, many with no way of identifying who or what they are.  But they are processed in, being given cash and airline tickets to where ever (mostly red states).

 It's no secret the shithole countries are emptying their prisons and mental facilities out and shipping the undesirables here. We saw this during the Mariel boatlift.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 24, 2021, 07:25:15 AM
Oh man.  A hot chick with a gun.
 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 24, 2021, 09:54:38 AM
Biden has bowed to the Taliban and is sticking to the 8/31
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2021, 10:11:09 AM
Biden has bowed to the Taliban and is sticking to the 8/31

of course.

They have 10,000+ hostages, and a very well equipped military.  Any bets when a cargo plane loaded with cash goes to Kabul?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 24, 2021, 10:51:05 AM
Oh man.  A hot chick with a gun.

Yes, is she not a beauty?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 24, 2021, 10:54:17 AM


Casper the Friendly Ghost's evil sister?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2021, 02:17:31 PM
https://spectator.org/bidens-vortex-is-likely-to-sink-us-all/


Biden’s Vortex Is Likely To Sink Us All

Joe Biden got where he is because he's willing to do things others are not. That should scare you.


Quote
he thing you need to understand about Joe Biden isn’t that he’s a moron, or that he’s a moron with senile dementia.

You already understand that. If you don’t, you might also be a moron.

Joe Biden has been a moron throughout his career in politics. He’s been a glib moron, but a moron nonetheless. He’s had the ability to articulate someone else’s words in order to present a facade of intelligence, and in American Democrat politics that will actually get someone quite far. Particularly when that someone is willing to do things others are not.

But what you need to understand about Joe Biden is that his lack of intelligence obscures his low character.

Joe Biden is an utterly dishonest man. He’s an unpatriotic, greedy, vain, venal, and vicious individual who has left a trail of destruction behind every step he’s taken.

And so when you view the carnage and national dishonor Joe Biden is responsible for in Afghanistan, understand that it isn’t just incompetence which is driving this derailed train.

It’s utter and complete bad faith as well.

You should recognize that Joe Biden was totally unperturbed in 1975 when South Vietnam fell to the communist thugs from Hanoi, something Joe Biden had expressly voted for in the United States Senate when he and his fellow Democrats cut off military aid to our allies and sold out American honor won at the Paris peace accords. And it got worse. Here’s a quote from Biden at the time: “I’m getting sick and tired of hearing about morality, our moral obligation … the US has no obligation to evacuate one, or 100,001, South Vietnamese.”

And in 2010, when Joe Biden was Barack Obama’s Vice President, then-Ambassador Richard Holbrooke warned of the likely humanitarian disaster if America had pulled out of Afghanistan. Biden’s response? “F–k that, we don’t have to worry about that. We did it in Vietnam, Nixon and Kissinger got away with it.”

That’s who Joe Biden is.

He doesn’t care about our friends. He doesn’t even care about our own people. The thoroughly abysmal interview he did with partisan Democrat operative George Stephanopoulos Wednesday proved that, and the increasingly obvious disdain for the 10,000 or so American civilians being left to their own devices as the Taliban commits atrocities on the streets of Kabul and other cities, and is now making threats about what happens to any Westerners not out of the country by the end of August, proves it as well.

Biden’s administration won’t comment on what happens to Americans who can’t get to the Kabul airport before Sept. 1. And the administration doesn’t seem to have a plan for how to get Americans not in Kabul out of the country.

It’s worse than Saigon. It’s worse than Tehran, or at least potentially it is. Joe Biden doesn’t even care about the victims of his incompetence. He sends underlings out to emote and blubber, but he’s oblivious. And it isn’t because he’s senile. He never cared. He didn’t even cancel his vacation when Afghanistan collapsed.

Joe Biden doesn’t care about our national honor. What honor? Joe Biden doesn’t have the first concept of that. Hunter Biden’s laptop proved it.

Joe Biden sold out American interests in Ukraine. He bragged about it. He sold out our interests to the Chinese. Nobody really disputes any of that, largely because Biden isn’t the only Washington swamp-rat who’s gotten in bed with the ChiComs.

And the collapse in Afghanistan, as world-changing as it is in its effect on American prestige and national security, has obscured something which, while smaller in scope, might be a more suspicious reversal.

We speak here of the utter fiasco in energy policy. Biden has presided over a doubling of gasoline prices since his inauguration due in chief measure to his assault on domestic oil production, and his response to this was what?

To beg OPEC to sell us more oil. When a year ago the United States was wholly independent from OPEC and was even exporting oil.

OPEC told Biden to go hang. He’d better get used to that, because he’s going to hear it a lot.

But that debacle showed just how dysfunctional and detached this man is. His policies put tens of thousands of productive Americans out of work, and when the bill for them came due he didn’t reverse those policies but instead rushed to Russia and Saudi Arabia for a bailout?

And this, after killing the Keystone XL pipeline and removing obstacles to Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

Joe Biden is a creep, a sexual predator if Tara Reade and others are to be believed (and they are), a racist of long standing and a man devoid of any notion of ethics. He’s a shameless liar and, so far in his time as president, a lawless tyrant. He proved that with his patently unconstitutional ban on renter evictions, a continuation of a terrible policy of his predecessor’s which is measurably worse given that the Supreme Court expressly told Biden the eviction ban was out of bounds.

Biden is importing COVID patients from the Third World and transporting them mostly to red states, and he is then assailing those red states for their performance in fighting off the virus.

To watch his approval ratings hover near 50 percent during the past six months has been to lose faith in the American people and the standards we demand of our leaders. There are people out there who legitimately believed Biden is OK and Donald Trump was not because the latter was often vituperative on Twitter.

Well, the one thing about failure is that sooner or later you can’t hide from it anymore. And seven months in, Joe Biden has no place to hide.

The media, as Matt Keener noted yesterday, has begun to turn on him. Oh, they’ll still prop him up here and there, but the Afghanistan debacle has opened a lot of legacy corporate newsroom eyes to the fact the ship is taking on water. And the Democrats in Congress are beginning to lose heart. Yes, AOC and some of the others on the Left are now screeching loudly about how the Afghan refugees can’t be left behind and ought to be relocated to a town near you. But that isn’t exactly standing by their man.

And it sounds like the Biden and Kamala Harris camps are in open warfare. There was a report yesterday which would have explained why Harris, who has hovered like a masked vulture behind Biden at nearly every one of his press statements, was strangely absent during his drive-by Afghanistan blame-cast Monday. According to the report, when Harris was requested to stand near Biden she refused, exclaiming “you will not pin this s**t on me.”

Back in April Kamala Harris boasted about her key role in engineering the catastrophic pullout from Afghanistan. She’s now quite apparently stepping away from Biden and licking her lips as his presidency burns.

Fourteen Republican members of Congress have now requested the president undergo an examination based on the Montreal Cognitive Assessment. That call is only going to get louder as time goes on and the S.S. Biden’s stern end rises above the water.

And the public has begun to recognize the sinking of the ship at long last. The weekly Reuters/Ipsos presidential approval survey had Biden at 53 percent a week ago, a maddening number. Now he’s down to 46, a seven-point drop. YouGov has Biden’s approval rating down to 44 percent, and he’s underwater by a 36-47 count on public confidence in his ability to handle an international crisis.

Worse for him, a Rasmussen survey asking whether Biden or Trump would be the preference in a hypothetical snap election came back catastrophic for Biden…

Stunning new poll numbers from Rasmussen Reports suggest nearly 1 in 10 Democrats regret their vote in the 2020 Presidential election, with 12 percent of ‘Moderates’ saying the same, and 14 percent of Black Americans expressing regret.

Furthermore, asked how people would vote if a presidential election were held today, just 37 percent said they would vote for Joe Biden, down from 45 percent who said they did. Forty-three percent said they would vote for Donald Trump.

It’s all going to hell for him, like we knew it would.

And in the face of all this, what did Biden do Wednesday?

He pivoted to COVID. He’s now demanding that all staffers in nursing homes be vaccinated or else he’s suspending Medicare and Medicaid funds to those facilities. And he’s attacking red-state governors for fighting the abject institutional child abuse of mask mandates for schoolchildren.

This is what’s so dangerous. The vortex Biden’s sinking ship is going to create will only grow, and it’s going to take some hard swimming to avoid getting sucked in. The worse things get for him the more authoritarian he’s going to be.

More mask and vaccine mandates. More COVID shutdowns. More January 6 fabulism. More warnings about imaginary white supremacist terrorists, and almost assuredly more FBI entrapment of marginalized dissidents. More escalation of the border crisis. And other things.

It’s going to get ugly around here. Joe Biden got where he is because he’s willing to do things others are not. And now he’s unbound by any sense of rationality.

He has to be checked. States will have to do it, and the American people, through civil disobedience and other forms of peaceful resistance, will have to pitch in as well.

Or else what’s happening in Afghanistan will come home to us in ways which are more than just outrageous to see on television.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 24, 2021, 03:07:56 PM
After having heard Biden's short teleprompter speech followed by his patented turn and run, I am beyond pissed.

Bongino has been asking the question, "if you wanted to undertake to destroy our country, what would tho0se steps be"
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 24, 2021, 04:32:34 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/TayFromCA/status/1430283220294189060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1430283220294189060%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2021%2F08%2Fsurrenderer-chief-trumps-new-ad-attacking-joe-biden-fire-video%2F
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 24, 2021, 04:54:09 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/TayFromCA/status/1430283220294189060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1430283220294189060%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2021%2F08%2Fsurrenderer-chief-trumps-new-ad-attacking-joe-biden-fire-video%2F

I’m surprised Twitter didn’t just ban that. I did have to hit a “sensitive content” button. Oh yeah, it’s disgusting and terrifying.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 24, 2021, 04:59:03 PM
Here it is on a different platform.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1430282811760693248/pu/vid/1280x512/VkNqfUgEVvMJ5TNS.mp4
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on August 24, 2021, 05:35:04 PM
of course.

They have 10,000+ hostages, and a very well equipped military.  Any bets when a cargo plane loaded with cash goes to Kabul?
This makes Carter's 444 Days look like Sadie Hawkins Day.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 24, 2021, 06:56:24 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/TayFromCA/status/1430283220294189060?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1430283220294189060%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2021%2F08%2Fsurrenderer-chief-trumps-new-ad-attacking-joe-biden-fire-video%2F
Holy fuck. That’s good, but such a pathetic mess Biden has single-handedly created.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 25, 2021, 05:09:23 AM
The sad thing is if Biden does get all Americans out, he will then be hailed as a hero.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 25, 2021, 05:31:36 AM
The sad thing is if Biden does get all Americans out, he will then be hailed as a hero.

I’m rooting for the Russians to get them out, and I wouldn’t blame them if they decide to stay in Russia like Snowden. Right now Russia is a better place to be if we don’t turn this train wreck in the U.S. around. We killed our own oil, gave Russia theirs, opened the southern border to a flood of gang members and COVID cases, Russia got clue early that lockdowns are bad, Russia is NOT actively destroying its own economy. If I were in Afghanistan now, I’d say fuck Biden, don’t do me any favors. You’ve already screwed it up enough.  Note, this sentiment does not apply to American troops going in to try to get them out, they’re heroes to go back and face American guns in Taliban hands.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 25, 2021, 05:33:31 AM
I’m rooting for the Russians to get them out, and I wouldn’t blame them if they decide to stay in Russia like Snowden. Right now Russia is a better place to be if we don’t turn this train wreck in the U.S. around. We killed our own oil, gave Russia theirs, opened the southern border to a flood of gang members and COVID cases, Russia got clue early that lockdowns are bad, Russia is NOT actively destroying its own economy. If I were in Afghanistan now, I’d say fuck Biden, don’t do me any favors. You’ve already screwed it up enough.  Note, this sentiment does not apply to American troops going in to try to get them out, they’re heroes to go back and face American guns in Taliban hands.

 Putin is now the defacto leader of the free world.   Our allies have defected to him for help.   The Biden trainwreck continues.

  But hey, no mean tweets, so it must be worth it?  Right?

(https://i.imgur.com/9YU6Rzb.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 25, 2021, 05:37:18 AM
Putin is now the defacto leader of the free world.   Our allies have defected to him for help.   The Biden trainwreck continues.

If we had even a half decent MEDIA, this shit would stop as there would be enough PUBLIC OUTCRY to force their hands.  Now, people just believe the propaganda, continue to drive their Teslas while wearing masks ALONE. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 25, 2021, 05:51:59 AM
Putin is now the defacto leader of the free world.   

Ironic as fuck, right?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 25, 2021, 05:53:27 AM
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Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 25, 2021, 06:02:52 AM
In twenty years we made the MIC richer and the retired military that went to work for them. Nice.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 25, 2021, 06:16:12 AM
Imagine what the world would be like if Hillary had won instead of Trump.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 25, 2021, 06:19:00 AM
In twenty years we made the MIC richer and the retired military that went to work for them. Nice.

Eisenhower warned us.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 25, 2021, 06:23:46 AM
In twenty years we made the MIC richer and the retired military that went to work for them. Nice.

EXACTLY.  I ran a large Defense Contractor's real estate portfolio as a third party, strategic partner.  The senior leadership were ALL retired Admirals and Generals.  They sill had friends in the DOD (other Admirals, Generals, contractors, bureaucrats, etc) in which they got sweetheart contracts.  Then those people retired and worked for THEM too!   Rinse and repeat!  ALL ON OUR DIME, while they live no risk lavish lifestyles. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 25, 2021, 06:27:20 AM
https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/24/americas-failure-in-afghanistan-is-a-call-to-ordinary-americans-to-clean-house/?&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=the_federalist_daily_briefing_2021_08_24&utm_term=2021-08-24

America’s Failure In Afghanistan Is A Call To Ordinary Americans To Clean House



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People are fond of saying that Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires. Historically speaking, this is true—Alexander the Great, the British Empire, the Soviet Union, and now the United States of America have all failed in their geopolitical efforts there.

Often, “experts” attribute this failure to the courageous and noble tribes of Afghanistan who are committed to defeating the invading armies of the West. In reality, when empires go to die on Afghanistan’s plains, it is not the mujahidin’s sword or bullet that kills them. It is their own hubris that keeps them on those plains while they bleed out from mostly self-inflicted wounds.

From 1979 through 1989, the Soviet Union fought in Afghanistan. A Soviet client state at the time, Afghanistan was embroiled in a struggle between large swaths of the country’s people and the unpopular communist government.

To prop up this government, the Soviets deployed combat forces directly into Afghanistan. For the next decade, the Soviets and their well-trained and equipped Afghan Army were pitted against a ragtag coalition of Afghan and foreign Islamic mujahideen. Their Afghan experience went about as well as ours.

In May 1988, Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev ordered the military to begin a complete withdrawal of all Soviet combat forces. With considerable fanfare and celebration that belied the embarrassment of their defeat, the last Soviet armored convoys rolled across a bridge over the Amu Darya River into Uzbekistan in February 1989.

The next three years for the Soviet Union were marked by increasing civil and political unrest and the progressive disintegration of its territory. On 25 December 1991, Gorbachev resigned the presidency, the Soviet Union officially dissolved, and the Soviet flag was permanently lowered from the Kremlin.

When the Ruling Class Goes South
The catalyst for the Soviet Union’s fall was widely attributed to their military loss in Afghanistan. The dissolution of the union, however, was due to a number of internal issues: political revolution between the “old guard” political class and the Gorbachev reformists, corruption across nearly all Soviet institutions, a failing economy, a lack of confidence domestically and across the Warsaw Pact states in the ability of the Soviet Union to fulfill its political and economic promises, and the inability of the Soviet central planners to deliver the barest essentials to ordinary Soviet citizens. In 1989, there were two classes of Soviet citizens: the ruling class and everyone else.

The Soviets’ ignominious withdrawal from Afghanistan pulled the curtain back on the myriad failures of the Soviet state. It laid bare the glaring truth that there was no benefit or future for client states to maintain the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The Soviet ruling class was unfit to lead and uninterested in the purported values and principles of socialism.

America is currently suffering its own humiliating Afghanistan defeat and messy withdrawal. The whole-of-government approach to failure in a 20-year, $2 trillion fraud and money-laundering scheme has resulted in an epiphany for Americans: their country is ruled by crooks, liars, and thieves.

The abysmal failure of America’s once-vaunted and widely respected military to even face the truth of its own incompetence heaps salt on the wounds of this epiphany. What country leaves thousands of its own citizens behind enemy lines to fend for themselves, with nothing more than an apathetic shrug of its shoulders? A country ruled by arrogant fools looking to line their own pocketbooks and who care little or nothing for the citizens that are their nation’s raison d’être, that’s who.

What This Means for Our Future
What does the American failure in Afghanistan portend for the future of America? America, like the Soviet Union in 1989, is facing an internal political and cultural revolution that has divided the nation and brought it to the brink of civil war. Our national institutions are corrupt, ineffective, and out of touch with regular America. Our government is bent on subduing the ordinary citizens it views as its greatest enemy.

If there was any doubt about the illegitimacy of this police state, one only need look at the FBI’s latest fabricated terror plots or the Department of Homeland Security’s alarmingly evidence-free security warnings that we, the people are the main enemy of America. Expect to see DHS warnings that Americans who are unhappy with the United States’ wholesale surrender and foreign policy incompetence are potential terrorists. America is now a clown show where everyone who doesn’t clap is labeled a terrorist.

The military, the intelligence community, academia, journalism—the list of institutions plagued by moral bankruptcy and Baghdad Bob-level f-ckery goes on and on and on. Few Americans have confidence in America. Pile on a huge helping of COVID-19 hysteria, lockdowns, mounting shortages in housing and basic consumer goods, a quickly growing income gap between society’s poor and wealthy, and all-around lies and gaslighting—America is in trouble.

Like with the Soviet withdrawal from Afghanistan, our defeat there has exposed the nation’s failed leadership busy looting and wrecking what is left of our country. We can now see that we are led by the worst of humanity—a collection of garbage elites, tyrants, and political grifters. Like the Soviets before us, there are two only two classes in modern America: the ruling class, and everyone else.

Not only can we now finally see our dysfunction, our adversaries can too. They are laughing at the weakness of America and will likely take advantage of it in the near future. These are dangerous times. If our garbage elite drive us into a collapse or into war against a modern enemy, it is we ordinary Americans who will suffer.

Time to Clean House
What can Americans do about our current predicament? How do we keep our nation from meeting the same fate as the other empires in the graveyard?

We have to get up off the couch and do some badly needed house cleaning. We must get our house in order while we still have the chance—before America becomes a fire-sale nation bought up by the Chinese and kicked around by the world’s petty dictatorships. We need to replace and repair the broken elements of our culture and governance, and we need to start both at home and in Washington, DC.

The greatest threat to America is the current leadership in DC. They are the epitome of Dunning-Kruger syndrome and are immune to shame or hypocrisy. They will not leave of their own accord, because in their minds, they deserve to rule us.

Don’t be confused by thinking this is a Republican versus Democrat thing. This is an America versus the uniparty of failed elites thing.

An American Yellow Vest Movement
As Rod Dreher writes, we need an American yellow vest movement. Americans should get into the streets to demand the resignations of the Biden administration’s entire national security apparatus.

This includes, but is not limited to, the secretary of defense, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, secretary of state, director of national intelligence, the entire National Security Council, the leadership of the Department of Justice, and the president himself. If we are to survive as a nation, it is imperative that the individuals responsible for this abomination are held accountable by the people.

America still has a semblance of representative governance. We the people must now exercise our citizen responsibilities while we still can. If we cannot muster the strength of will to put our house in order, we will be complicit in our own demise. Like the Soviet Union that collapsed under the weight of its own corruption and incompetence, America will doom itself to a similar end.

Our experience in Afghanistan has not broken us. Rather, this experience has identified to the American people the cancer that is killing our nation. It has shown us what we need to do.

If we fail now, it will be from our own moral cowardice to put our nation back in order. That cowardice is being demonstrated to a world that is watching and marveling at the speed this once great beacon of liberty has fallen from grace.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 25, 2021, 07:19:53 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/update-bidens-gift-taliban-included-110-helicopters-20-light-attack-airplanes-42000-light-attack-vehicles-25000-grenade-watchers/

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Here is a breakdown of estimated vehicle costs:

Armored personnel carriers such as the M113A2 cost $170,000 each and recent purchases of the M577A2 post carrier cost $333,333 each.
Mine resistant vehicles ranges from $412,000 to $767,000. The total cost could range between $382 million to $711 million.
Recovery vehicles such as the ‘truck, wrecker’ cost between for the base model $168,960 and $880,674 for super strength versions.
Medium range tactical vehicles include 5-ton cargo and general transport trucks were priced at $67,139. However, the family of MTV heavy vehicleshad prices ranging from $235,500 to $724,820 each. Cargo trucks to transport airplanes cost $800,865.
Humvees – ambulance type (range from $37,943 to $142,918 with most at $96,466); cargo type, priced at $104,682. Utility Humvees were typically priced at $91,429. However, the 12,000 lb. troop transport version cost up to $329,000.
Light tactical vehicles: Fast attack combat vehicles ($69,400); and passenger motor vehicles ($65,500). All terrain 4-wheel vehicles go up to $42,273 in the military databases.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 05:59:47 AM
https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/1430665637446230017
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 26, 2021, 08:08:27 AM
Explosion and gunfire reported outside the airport earlier
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Steingar on August 26, 2021, 09:35:55 AM
As messy and awful as this is Biden might be hailed as a hero in the future for it.  It has been long past time we got out of Afghanistan and the Middle East altogether.  At least he's getting us out of one of them, and long past time.  I know it's a clusterfuck, and I think the blame rests entirely on Biden's shoulders.  But I'd rather we got out in a clusterfuck than stay there any longer.  Good fucking riddance.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 09:44:53 AM
As messy and awful as this is Biden might be hailed as a hero in the future for it.  It has been long past time we got out of Afghanistan and the Middle East altogether.  At least he's getting us out of one of them, and long past time.  I know it's a clusterfuck, and I think the blame rests entirely on Biden's shoulders.  But I'd rather we got out in a clusterfuck than stay there any longer.  Good fucking riddance.

The hero's are on the ground over there. Biden is completely incompetent. You know if this happened under Trump, Pelosi would already have articles of impeachment written.

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/live-updates-taliban-gain-more-ground-in-afghanistan-as-they-close-in-on-kabul
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 26, 2021, 09:52:37 AM
Explosion and gunfire reported outside the airport earlier
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2021/aug/26/us-politics-biden-harris-afghanistan-covid-latest-news

Looks like ISIS according to this report.

If Trump was in office, the B-52s would have been spooled up.

With Biden, look forward a sternly worded statement from the State Department, as soon as next Tuesday.

Fucking retards.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Old Crow on August 26, 2021, 10:05:53 AM
I know it's a clusterfuck, and I think the blame rests entirely on Biden's shoulders.  But I'd rather we got out in a clusterfuck than stay there any longer.  Good fucking riddance.

I agree, we should have gotten out long ago.  However, the way this withdrawal is going shows that Biden is a very weak president and our enemies have noticed and will take advantage of us.  I feel we will pay in spades for this in time.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on August 26, 2021, 10:21:55 AM
As messy and awful as this is Biden might be hailed as a hero in the future for it.  It has been long past time we got out of Afghanistan and the Middle East altogether.  At least he's getting us out of one of them, and long past time.  I know it's a clusterfuck, and I think the blame rests entirely on Biden's shoulders.  But I'd rather we got out in a clusterfuck than stay there any longer.  Good fucking riddance.
Yeah, and some day Benedict Arnold will be deemed a hero.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 10:22:37 AM
As messy and awful as this is Biden might be hailed as a hero in the future for it.  It has been long past time we got out of Afghanistan and the Middle East altogether.  At least he's getting us out of one of them, and long past time.  I know it's a clusterfuck, and I think the blame rests entirely on Biden's shoulders.  But I'd rather we got out in a clusterfuck than stay there any longer.  Good fucking riddance.

 Biden and his handlers all should be forcibly removed over this.  The planning was in place, and his team of radicals threw all of it out.  Every fuckin' bit of this disaster rest on him, and no, history WILL NOT be hailed as a hero for this.

 Biden and radicals have also now heavily armed our enemies.  Biden and the radicals are importing thousand upon thousands with no vetting, and we will start seeing terror on levels we've never seen before.   This is why the western world is disavowing and moving away from Biden as he has now made the world a very dangerous place.

 Jimmy Carter failed miserably with Iran and it still follows him today.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 10:29:15 AM
4 Marines dead. This is unacceptable.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 26, 2021, 10:35:04 AM
Biden and his handlers all should be forcibly removed over this.  The planning was in place, and his team of radicals threw all of it out.  Every fuckin' bit of this disaster rest on him, and no, history WILL NOT be hailed as a hero for this.

 Biden and radicals have also now heavily armed our enemies.  Biden and the radicals are importing thousand upon thousands with no vetting, and we will start seeing terror on levels we've never seen before.   This is why the western world is disavowing and moving away from Biden as he has now made the world a very dangerous place.

 Jimmy Carter failed miserably with Iran and it still follows him today.

In defense of Steingar, he might be right. If the current authoritarian big tech/academic/leftist cabal remains in power, they’ll rewrite history and praise Biden as a hero, much as Stalin is still revered in Russia by many as a hero.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 26, 2021, 10:35:41 AM
4 Marines dead. This is unacceptable.

FUCK
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 10:42:37 AM
In defense of Steingar, he might be right. If the current authoritarian big tech/academic/leftist cabal remains in power, they’ll rewrite history and praise Biden as a hero, much as Stalin is still revered in Russia by many as a hero.

 They will try.  Already the WH is calling this a success. 

 But the problem is the rest of the world, they see Biden as a total clusterfuck, and are now embracing Putin.  The rest of the world will not allow Biden a hero status no matter how hard the democrat communist will try.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 26, 2021, 10:45:53 AM
They will try.  Already the WH is calling this a success. 

 But the problem is the rest of the world, they see Biden as a total clusterfuck, and are now embracing Putin.  The rest of the world will not allow Biden a hero status no matter how hard the democrat communist will try.

So on top of everything else, Biden is causing our allies to turn away.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 10:50:39 AM
So on top of everything else, Biden is causing our allies to turn away.

 Yep.  And the world is a much more dangerous place now because of Biden and his democrat communist handlers.

 We're seeing the domino effect of what happens with a stolen election.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 10:54:38 AM
Last night the State Department told Americans to get away from the airport. Today, a suicide bomber attacks a gate at the airport. Our government had to know and are complicit in these attacks.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 26, 2021, 11:01:49 AM
https://rumble.com/vlport-very-graphic-mangled-dead-bodies-line-street-in-kabul-after-bomb.html?mref=23gga&mc=8uxj1

If you are squeamish, do not click
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 26, 2021, 11:23:32 AM
4 Marines dead. This is unacceptable.

It is my hope that corrupt men of no honor, integrity or love of country, giving orders to men of great honor, integrity and love of country, that result in their compatriots’ deaths, sets off a controlled, skilled, precision military backlash against the corrupt imposters.

Of course, I’m reading Term Limits by Vince Flynn. That could be affecting my thinking.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 11:26:59 AM
I'm sick to my stomach over this.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 11:31:22 AM
I'm sick to my stomach over this.

 It's going to get worse.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 11:36:46 AM
It's going to get worse.

I agree. The fallout of this is going to be terrible.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 11:38:50 AM
I agree. The fallout of this is going to be terrible.

 People in this country are not prepared for what is coming.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 11:41:38 AM
People in this country are not prepared for what is coming.

They never are. I'm about to drive to DC and start a protest. This maybe the tipping point out country will be through, or a much needed reset.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 26, 2021, 11:50:11 AM
Military death toll is rising, up to 11 or 12 now, maybe more to come.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 11:52:09 AM
Military death toll is rising, up to 11 or 12 now, maybe more to come.

 Biden doesn't care.   He stated Nixon and Kissenger got away with the fall of Saigon, so he wasn't worried.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 11:55:53 AM
Military death toll is rising, up to 11 or 12 now, maybe more to come.

12 Marines and 1 Corpsman is the latest I saw. But lot's of injuries where I'm sure a few will pass.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 12:02:20 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbcs-malcon-nance-deal-with-it
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 12:03:29 PM
https://www.foxnews.com/media/msnbcs-malcon-nance-deal-with-it

He's toast. At least I hope he is.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 01:20:45 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1430981294985449477
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 26, 2021, 01:30:23 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1430981294985449477

H-O-L-Y S-H-I-T! If anyone on that list dies, they need to send whoever gave it to the Taliban to Gitmo. Military tribunal with a sentence of death.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 01:44:29 PM
H-O-L-Y S-H-I-T! If anyone on that list dies, they need to send whoever gave it to the Taliban to Gitmo. Military tribunal with a sentence of death.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/kill-list-biden-regime-provided-taliban-names-americans-afghan-allies/
Title: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 26, 2021, 01:49:18 PM
In what fucking world can anyone think that taking dozens of kids, from California no less, to Afghanistan on vacation is a good idea?

I feel for the US citizens, workers, and our military, but screw these idiots. Not a single soldier should shed a drop of blood for such stupidity.  Yet they will, out of duty.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/569307-dozens-of-california-students-parents-stranded?fbclid=IwAR1cQC2X0c79PmO7f1HI6zl0rPT5FnYzmmOYa7gumgXrt6gVR0kjSiU6npI
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 01:54:01 PM
In what fucking world can anyone think that taking dozens of kids, from California no less, to Afghanistan on vacation is a good idea?

I feel for the US citizens, workers, and our military, but screw these idiots. Not a single soldier should shed a drop of blood for such stupidity.  Yet they will, out of duty.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/569307-dozens-of-california-students-parents-stranded?fbclid=IwAR1cQC2X0c79PmO7f1HI6zl0rPT5FnYzmmOYa7gumgXrt6gVR0kjSiU6npI

 But Panjshir can be so scenic this time of year.   And imagine the culinary delights of Kunduz. 

 How could anyone resist a summer school trip to such a culturally diverse country!
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 26, 2021, 01:55:38 PM
I still haven’t forgiven Pence for certifying what he knew was a fraudulent election but this gives insight into Trump administration vs Biden. WRT Afghanistan:

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 02:00:42 PM
(https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/biden-taliban-jill.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 26, 2021, 02:24:02 PM
.......
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 02:58:36 PM
(https://citizenfreepress.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/biden-afghan-taliban.gif)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 26, 2021, 03:52:37 PM
But Panjshir can be so scenic this time of year.   And imagine the culinary delights of Kunduz. 

 How could anyone resist a summer school trip to such a culturally diverse country!
Maybe pick up some Afghan M16s.  Never used and only dropped once.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 26, 2021, 05:02:56 PM
H-O-L-Y S-H-I-T! If anyone on that list dies, they need to send whoever gave it to the Taliban to Gitmo. Military tribunal with a sentence of death.
It's insanity they released a list like that.  But I guess I'm not surprised.  Biden gave Russia a list of high-priority critical targets that they must absolutely positively not attack.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 06:52:50 PM
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biden-leaves-stacks-and-stacks-pallets-of-u-s-100-dollar-bills-for-the-taliban/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 06:55:38 PM
I still haven’t forgiven Pence for certifying what he knew was a fraudulent election but this gives insight into Trump administration vs Biden. WRT Afghanistan:



Who is that guy?  Was he once in politics or something?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 26, 2021, 07:02:57 PM
President Trump responds

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 27, 2021, 03:46:52 AM
"this video is unavailable"

(looks like it's a private video)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 27, 2021, 05:02:08 AM
"this video is unavailable"

(looks like it's a private video)

 Nope, the Ministry of Truth removed it because it contained a video of President Trump.

https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1431061680369381381

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As one nation America mourns the loss of our brave and brilliant American servicemembers, in a savage and barbaric terrorist attack in Afghanistan. These noble American warriors laid down their lives in the line of duty. They sacrifice themselves for the country that they loved, racing against time to rescue their fellow citizens from harm’s way.

They died as American heroes, and our nation will honor their memory forever. I want to express my deepest condolences to the families of those we have lost. Today all Americans grieve alongside you. Together we also pray that God will heal the other courageous American servicemembers who were wounded in this heinous attack. In addition, our hearts are with the families of all the innocent civilians who died. And with the many men women and children who were terribly injured in this act of evil.

This tragedy should never have taken place, it should never have happened. And it would not have happened if I were your president. Over the past few weeks, I know that many Americans have felt profound sorrow and even pain, watching the events taking place in Afghanistan. And perhaps none more so than the veterans of that 20 Year War. many of them answered the call proudly and without hesitation, after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Every American who served in Afghanistan has made tremendous sacrifices for our country.

On behalf of your fellow citizens, I want you to know that those sacrifices were not made in vain. We know what you did. We know how brave you were, and we thank you. We salute you and we honor you for all time. I hope that every American will join me in continuing to pray for the safe return of all US citizens and soldiers from Afghanistan in the coming days. Thank you. God bless you and God bless America.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 27, 2021, 05:47:19 AM
As Marines died yesterday, the democrat communist decided a hit piece of propaganda would be appropriate.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3aqwq5/marines-neo-nazis-military?utm_source=vicenewstwitter

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Last Friday, the Department of Justice released one of the latest in an endless string of indictments involving white men subscribing to the tenets of the far right and planning acts of terror in the U.S. The document also had an all-too-familiar detail: Former American service members using, prosecutors claim, their tradecraft to plan an attack.

And although it has unfortunately become commonplace to see veterans connected to domestic extremism, two of these men were part of a military branch that has repeatedly popped up when it comes to neo-Nazis: The United States Marine Corps (USMC).
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 27, 2021, 07:07:59 AM
As Marines died yesterday, the democrat communist decided a hit piece of propaganda would be appropriate.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3aqwq5/marines-neo-nazis-military?utm_source=vicenewstwitter
The left has no shame or morals whatsoever.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 27, 2021, 07:09:25 AM
As Marines died yesterday, the democrat communist decided a hit piece of propaganda would be appropriate.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3aqwq5/marines-neo-nazis-military?utm_source=vicenewstwitter

Wow! That is disgusting!
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on August 27, 2021, 08:34:59 AM
Learned this morning the Navy Corpsmen killed is a local. My cousins knew him from school.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 27, 2021, 11:06:25 AM
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5649.0;attach=2121;image)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on August 27, 2021, 01:12:28 PM
so, a few dozen people then, eh?

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 27, 2021, 02:13:06 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/KjJWHLt.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 28, 2021, 05:50:21 AM
https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2021/08/will-biden-be-president-in-october.html?m=1
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on August 28, 2021, 06:48:32 AM
https://www.floppingaces.net/most-wanted/mike-pompeo-sets-the-record-straight-after-biden-press-conference-from-yesterday/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 28, 2021, 05:39:12 PM

Subject:   Kabul airlift conditions
From:   Grubert

Kabul airlift conditions
 
Pathetic support by the Generals in charge. Milley (CRT) and Austin (Diversity) are useless and should be fired.  Sent from a Buddy's son flying a C17 in and out of Kabul…..his first hand experience, we are America?  How is this possible?!


 
Below is the text from my son flying C-17s into Kabul
 
Wet trailers, no ac, no WiFi, 48c (118F), sitting on ramp for 10+hrs with all engines running till they start flaming out. Utter chaos. 10% of base works their ass off for 100% of the work. Refugees are passing out from heat stroke, babies born on jet, one bathroom for 450+ people, emergency is becoming part of everyone’s call sign, talks of AR past 26hr duty day, 32hr duty day now normal. Leadership here is incompetent to make a change. Now jets are breaking left and right. Rn we’ve sat at the jet 6hrs with no apu, huffer carts are breaking down, avionics overheat, afgh pax are being forced to floor load from otbh to ETAR. No seatbelts, minimal lav, hard floor covered with plastic tarps. Overall you can’t make this stuff up. No words to describe.....
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 28, 2021, 07:29:19 PM
The Kabul airport is shut down. The taliwackers pulled the plug early to prevent more victims from escaping them.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 28, 2021, 07:59:57 PM
The Kabul airport is shut down. The taliwackers pulled the plug early to prevent more victims from escaping them.

I don’t understand. Why aren’t we going in there like a boss kicking butt and taking names. It’s not like we can’t. Biden already blew the May 1 date, now he wants to keep to the Aug 31 date? Why?  What the fuck? We need to get our citizens out of there.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on August 29, 2021, 01:53:49 AM
In honesty, our commander-in-chief’s puppet masters have decided it makes them look bad politically.

The only question right now is whether or not those puppet masters are foreign or domestic.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 29, 2021, 03:19:35 AM
In honesty, our commander-in-chief’s puppet masters have decided it makes them look bad politically.

The only question right now is whether or not those puppet masters are foreign or domestic.

I think the Tech and MEDIA giant masters of the universe Democrat controllers are in collaboration with the Chicoms as they desperately want access to the Chinese market.   So the answer is both.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 29, 2021, 05:44:01 AM
But no more mean tweets!

Remember, Biden is going to restore our respect among world leaders!
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 29, 2021, 05:59:47 AM
These Americans are getting in the way of importing future citizens.

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/112000-afghans-evacuated-to-usa-just-5400-americans/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 29, 2021, 06:01:45 AM
Cargo planes loaded with pallets of cash are next.  Just watch.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/afghans-begin-shake-joe-biden-offer-extend-deadline-biden-will-unfreeze-funds/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on August 29, 2021, 06:39:40 AM
We left them billions of dollars worth of military equipment.  I'm sure there are buyers out there somewhere.  Why send them cash?  They already have everything they need.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 29, 2021, 06:42:15 AM
We left them billions of dollars worth of military equipment.  I'm sure there are buyers out there somewhere.  Why send them cash?  They already have everything they need.

We also left them piles of fresh $100 uncirculated bills, probably several million worth.  I posted a video of that earlier. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on August 29, 2021, 06:44:37 AM
We left them billions of dollars worth of military equipment.  I'm sure there are buyers out there somewhere.  Why send them cash?  They already have everything they need.
Good point.  Just subtract the value of the merchandise we left from the amount of their funds that are frozen.  I'm not sure which way that will balance, but it will reduce the amount of funds that are frozen.  Then, keep that reduced amount frozen.  Or write it off as reparations for terrorist attacks, or for the amount we spent over there for the past 20 years.  But the last thing we should allow our government to do is to give it back to them.  Perhaps we could charge them for the cost of the Daisy Cutters we drop on them, sort of like how the Russians charged the families for the bullets used on their relatives that were executed by firing squad.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Old Crow on August 29, 2021, 08:50:50 AM
Traitor Joes
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 29, 2021, 01:58:09 PM
Apparently he can't wait to go get his ice cream.

This was taken as the Marine's caskets were being taken off the airplane at Dover AFB.

(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/91A17087-9CF1-44E8-8AB4-18CE94440753.jpeg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 29, 2021, 03:55:15 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/report-biden-regime-targets-isis-k-terrorists-kabul-missile-strike-kill-3-6-children-instead/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 01:08:12 PM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1432430873584996363
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 01:09:21 PM
https://twitter.com/goodblackdude/status/1432380439772090368
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 01:18:59 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/reports-last-us-planes-left-kabul-airport/

https://twitter.com/TalibTimes/status/1432433357753700352
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 30, 2021, 01:50:41 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/reports-last-us-planes-left-kabul-airport/

https://twitter.com/TalibTimes/status/1432433357753700352
It’s done. God help stranded Americans.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 02:14:25 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9941147/Pentagon-says-troops-left-Afghanistan-just-midnight-Kabul.html

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The Pentagon announced on Monday afternoon that the last American troops had left Kabul airport almost 24 hours ahead of schedule, ending the U.S. war in Afghanistan after 20 years and the deaths of almost 2500 troops.

Witnesses in Kabul said the Taliban let off celebratory gunfire as news circulated that the final U.S. flight had left.

It means President Biden managed to meet his August 31 deadline and removes American personnel from danger.

But it comes at the cost of letting a militant group retake the country and after the deaths of 13 U.S. service members last week.

'I'm here to announce the completion of our withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the end of the military mission to evacuate American citizens third country nationals and vulnerable Afghans,' said Marine Corps Gen. Kenneth F. McKenzie Jr., commander of U.S. Central Command.

He said the last C-17 lifted off from Hamid Karzai International Airport at 3:29 pm East Coast time.

'And the last manned aircraft is now clearing the airspace above Afghanistan,' he added.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 02:16:39 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/heartless-emotionless-us-general-describes-us-military-left-hundreds-americans-behind-us-forces-left-afghanistan-video/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 02:18:49 PM
It’s done. God help stranded Americans.

 God will have to as our government abandoned them.

 After seeing this, does anyone actually believe the US government has anyone's well being and welfare in mind?

 Our government has now taken the same, the exact same stance as the Communist Chinese with regards to citizens.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 30, 2021, 03:49:08 PM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/heartless-emotionless-us-general-describes-us-military-left-hundreds-americans-behind-us-forces-left-afghanistan-video/
In what world would a leader walk away after 14 American military were slaughtered days ago? 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 03:56:42 PM
In what world would a leader walk away after 14 American military were slaughtered days ago?

Those were citizens.  Had they been illegals, Dementia Joe would have been fighting mad.

 Joe Biden and the cabal don't give a shit about American Citizens.  None whatsoever.  We are the enemy.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 04:01:30 PM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on August 30, 2021, 06:42:07 PM
Just heard two Gold Star fathers state they saw Biden check his watch several times during that ceremony. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 30, 2021, 06:47:33 PM
(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/biden-taliban-great.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on August 30, 2021, 07:46:00 PM
Just heard two Gold Star fathers state they saw Biden check his watch several times during that ceremony.
I saw that as well. What the fuck.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2021, 06:00:43 AM
https://twitter.com/senatormelendez/status/1432533462708146177
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on August 31, 2021, 06:59:08 AM
https://twitter.com/senatormelendez/status/1432533462708146177

These effing Communists are unbelievable.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2021, 07:09:06 AM

 And as much as I don't want to believe this, Biden was right.  Earlier in life he made a comment about how Nixon and Kissinger got away with the fall of Saigon, and no one cared.

 Well, judging from what's going on now, we will be able to surmise the same for the botched Afghanistan withdrawal.    Yes, a few republicans are pissed and want something done, but the rest of them are only concerned about their parts of the latest treasury raid (infrastructure bill) and are already moving on.  MSM is slowly building a narrative of how Biden got over 120,000 people out in a matter of days (never mind less than 6,000 were Americans) and now the MSM, along with Big Tech are censoring anyone who speaks of those abandoned.

 If we had a functioning government, Biden and Harris would be facing removal, along with the Biden cabinet and Joint Chief of Staff.  Instead the fedgov is now doubling down on "domestic terrorist" and ignoring the foreign terrorist they just imported and turned loose on society.

 Those weapons and huge cash bunkers left in Afghanistan?   You'll be seeing that again, being used against us.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2021, 09:17:18 AM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on August 31, 2021, 09:44:40 AM


Yeah, all of that was part of the Trump deal that Biden trashed.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on August 31, 2021, 03:24:04 PM
https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1432821565171896320
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 02, 2021, 08:48:41 AM
If the Americans refuse to listen to our advice and the goodness, guidance and righteousness that we call them to, then be aware that you will lose this Crusade Bush began, just like the other previous Crusades in which you were humiliated by the hands of the Mujahideen, fleeing to your home in great silence and disgrace. If the Americans do not respond, then their fate will be that of the Soviets who fled from Afghanistan to deal with their military defeat, political breakup, ideological downfall, and economic bankruptcy.

-Osama bin Laden
Title: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 02, 2021, 09:07:42 AM
If the Americans refuse to listen to our advice and the goodness, guidance and righteousness that we call them to, then be aware that you will lose this Crusade Bush began, just like the other previous Crusades in which you were humiliated by the hands of the Mujahideen, fleeing to your home in great silence and disgrace. If the Americans do not respond, then their fate will be that of the Soviets who fled from Afghanistan to deal with their military defeat, political breakup, ideological downfall, and economic bankruptcy.

-Osama bin Laden
Obama’s WH Communications Director Anita Dunn quoted “Chairman Mao” in a speech. Mao murdered between 40-80 million people. She got a 100% pass by the press and the left.

If a Republican quoted bin Laden, he would be tarred and feathered and his life destroyed.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 02, 2021, 08:41:31 PM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/02/something-missing/

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Just a short note of something rather insignificant in the grand scheme of things….

We are told by the powers that be – that approximately 6,000 to 7,000 American citizens were "rescued" by daring efforts of the U.S. State Department and U.S. military in evacuations from Kabul airport.  Okay, fair enough… that’s a good outcome.  Happy to hear it; we can debate the other 116,000 un-vetted at a later time.

However, it seems a little odd now that there’s no videos of the survivors of the Afghan crisis arriving at airports.   No crowds or families greeting the extracted American residents; no human interest stories and local broadcasted news coverage of relieved Americans, husbands, wives, daughters or sons arriving back in their hometown…. nothing.

Six to seven thousand Americans saved from the clutches of the Taliban, and not a single story of those Americans arriving home to the waiting arms of their loving family.

Kind'a weird? 

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 03, 2021, 08:59:52 AM
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/02/something-missing/
I was thinking the exact same fucking thing.

Sometimes I think we are living in a very dark version of The Truman Show.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 03, 2021, 09:01:34 AM
I was thinking the exact same fucking thing.

Sometimes I think we are living in a very dark version of The Truman Show.

JoBama was too busy importing ISIS and the Taliban into our country.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 03, 2021, 02:17:44 PM
“This speech has aged like wine.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWxolFgvcIc
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on September 04, 2021, 04:27:37 AM
“This speech has aged like wine.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWxolFgvcIc
I've never had much use for Ron Paul, but that speech was outstanding.  And as you say, the speech has become better with age, at least to me as my opinions on the subject have radically changed to come to understand what he was saying.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 04, 2021, 05:39:48 AM
I've never had much use for Ron Paul, but that speech was outstanding.  And as you say, the speech has become better with age, at least to me as my opinions on the subject have radically changed to come to understand what he was saying.

Me too, sort of. I have kind of come back full circle. I was opposed to Vietnam when I was a teen and my peers were being drafted (and dying daily). I didn’t understand the vague concept of protecting us from a communist takeover. I knew Russia had the bomb and I grew up with that threat, but couldn’t connect what we were doing in Vietnam to stopping “communism” because how would killing a bunch of Vietnamese stop Russia from throwing a nuke our way?

But I was 100% behind Afghanistan (at first). They had just been involved in a direct attack on my homeland. And then Iraq I favored because I felt we needed to protect our interests in oil and generally maintaining a strategic presence because Iran. I had a friend from Iran and from their stories knew them to be a malignant evil entity we had to keep contained. You have to understand I was traumatized by the OPEC embargo when I was young. These things imprint on the young mind. So I felt we needed control in the Mideast. But we have fracking now, Trump has proven we can be oil independent. And he also was winding down the war activity yet the terrorist threat was less, simply because we showed strength. Carry a big stick but don’t use it so much, is the way.

But the most important thing is we never won anything in Afghanistan or Iraq, they turned into another Vietnam. This has at this point turned me completely against how we conduct war now.

I’m not opposed to war. I’m opposed to wars we don’t go full throttle to win decisively. And it has to be for a good reason, like getting rid of an evil dictator trying to take over all of free Europe who is an ally of a nation that attacked our homeland (Japan, Pearl Harbor). Attack us directly I go berserk mode. I somewhat disagree that Ron Paul isn’t making the distinction, he’s saying “war” is bad for us, I know what he means, but the video, along with emotionally manipulative images and music, isn’t making that distinction.

He’s totally right about things like “wartime conditions always undermine personal liberty”. We should never go to war lightly. But he is implying we should never go to war period, and that I don’t agree with. But I fully agree that the way we’ve been doing in Vietnam and since is wrong.

What’s right is to maintain superior war capability and signal to the world we are ready and willing to use it. What’s not right is to use it endlessly dicking around where we’re not wanted.

But what’s most wrong is to signal weakness to the world. Sending in military and then shackling it with ROE etc. makes us look weak, but most dangerous of all is having a weak incompetent CIC doing things like giving away our energy independence and making the U.S. a laughing stock. It’s a good video but sending the message to the world that the U.S. shouldn’t go to war isn’t the look we want right now.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 04, 2021, 06:24:24 AM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 04, 2021, 09:16:46 AM
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Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 04, 2021, 09:26:29 AM
From now on the Taliban shall be known as the Talibiden.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 04, 2021, 09:26:58 AM
Those must be all boys. I’d have tried to negotiate and been flattened. Every time. Which is why we need an alpha male in the White House.

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 04, 2021, 09:54:43 AM
Those must be all boys. I’d have tried to negotiate and been flattened. Every time. Which is why we need an alpha male in the White House.

THIS. We had one with Trump.  No one can know what would have been but here’s how I think what would have happened:

Trump would have moved getting people and equipment out long before May 1. He would have started the process right after inauguration. On May 1 we would have left but with the Taliban knowing that if it misbehaves we’ll be back in spades. I understand we also would have kept Bagram. So even if everyone wasn’t out yet, we would have been able to continue humanitarian missions to evacuate certain people. Nothing like Biden’s disaster would have occurred and the Afghan government would still be intact for the foreseeable future.

However, the slightest burp in any of that would have had the media screaming what a disaster Trump’s pullout was. While in real life, they revel in what a success Biden’s was.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 04, 2021, 05:06:45 PM
Thought I’d post this here. Wife and I were at Darlington today, that may be a bit redneck for some of you and if you don't know what Darlington is, I can't help you, use your Duck Duck Go fu. Anyway, we’re in our seats and a guy comes up the stairs with a Trump hat on and a t-short with Fuck Biden emblazoned on it in very big bold letters. Loved it.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on September 04, 2021, 05:12:27 PM
THIS. We had one with Trump.  No one can know what would have been but here’s how I think what would have happened:

Trump would have moved getting people and equipment out long before May 1. He would have started the process right after inauguration. On May 1 we would have left but with the Taliban knowing that if it misbehaves we’ll be back in spades. I understand we also would have kept Bagram. So even if everyone wasn’t out yet, we would have been able to continue humanitarian missions to evacuate certain people. Nothing like Biden’s disaster would have occurred and the Afghan government would still be intact for the foreseeable future.

However, the slightest burp in any of that would have had the media screaming what a disaster Trump’s pullout was. While in real life, they revel in what a success Biden’s was.

Precisely.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 04, 2021, 06:29:08 PM
Thought I’d post this here. Wife and I were at Darlington today, that may be a bit redneck for some of you and if you don't know what Darlington is, I can't help you, use your Duck Duck Go fu. Anyway, we’re i out seats and a guy comes up the stairs with anTrump hat on and a t-short with Fuck Biden emblazoned on it in very big bold letters. Loved it.
I flew over Darlington many times. It was a great VFR waypoint when I flew from Monroe, NC to Florence, SC.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 05, 2021, 05:34:45 AM
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on September 05, 2021, 06:57:48 AM
The United States has not gone Mad.  This is a calculated, purposeful effort to destabilize through divisiveness.   Everything the Elites pushing these lies is to create so much division that we become largely counterproductive.   The end game is subjugation and control.   They want Neo Feudalism.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 05, 2021, 07:09:02 AM
The United States has not gone Mad.  This is a calculated, purposeful effort to destabilize through divisiveness.   Everything the Elites pushing these lies is to create so much division that we become largely counterproductive.   The end game is subjugation and control.   They want Neo Feudalism.


That, Rules for Radicals and Cloward and Piven all rolled into one.

In essence, collapse the system using its own rules and then introduce a new system, which, is just another warmed over version of communism.

 But the leftist have convinced themselves they will get it right “this time”.

And amazingly enough, even in the midst of all this, voter apathy remains high. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 05, 2021, 07:51:25 AM

That, Rules for Radicals and Cloward and Piven all rolled into one.

In essence, collapse the system using its own rules and then introduce a new system, which, is just another warmed over version of communism.

 But the leftist have convinced themselves they will get it right “this time”.


Even that is a lie.  Their “communism” is nothing of the sort, it’s just another form of statism. The last thing communist dictators do is uphold their own ideals of ownership by the people.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/harrybinswanger/2013/11/13/statism/?sh=107308d5f5c4

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Statism: Whether Fascist or Communist, It's The Deadly Opposite of Capitalism

Over the last few years, a new and immensely clarifying concept has entered public discussion: "statism." It has been said that he who controls language controls history. The growing use of "statism" may portend a political sea change, because it pierces a major Leftist-created smokescreen: the placing of fascism on the Right.

This twisting of language and facts has reached ludicrous levels. On November 9th, The New York Times featured a page-one article whose headline blared: "Right Wing's Surge in Europe Has the Establishment Rattled." But it turns out that these alleged Rightists "want to strengthen not shrink government and they see the welfare state as an integral part of their national identities." The article reveals that "The platform of France's National Front … reads in part like a leftist manifesto."

We need a rational way of setting up the political spectrum. We have to have some axis of measurement in terms of which we can locate the political meaning of particular ideas and policies. I have no objection to calling this spectrum "Right vs. Left." I have every possible objection to defining the extreme Right as fascism and the extreme Left as communism.

Suppose that someone proposed a Right-Left axis for eating, saying that the extreme Right is to eat arsenic and the extreme Left is to eat cyanide. The choice would only be: which poison do you want to die from? And the "moderates" would then be those who eat a mixture of arsenic and cyanide. What would be omitted from this setup? Food.

The political equivalent of the arsenic-cyanide spectrum is the fascism-communism spectrum. What is omitted from the setup? A free society--which means: capitalism. What is the actual opposite of capitalism? Statism.

The term "statism" was tirelessly promoted by Ayn Rand. A computer search of her published works for "statism" or "statist" gives over 300 hits. She described statism as the idea that "man's life and work belong to the state--to society, to the group, the gang, the race, the nation--and that the state may dispose of him in any way it pleases for the sake of whatever it deems to be its own, tribal, collective good."

Fascism and communism are two variants of statism. Both are forms of dictatorship. Neither one recognizes individual rights nor permits individual freedom. The differences are non-essential: fascism is racial statism and communism is statism of economic class.

Communism advocates the abolition of private property; socialism advocates government ownership of the means of production. Fascism leaves that property in private hands--then shackles those hands, every economic decision being directed by the state. Property rights are non-existent under fascism.

"All property is common property," wrote Nazi spokesman Ernst Huber, "The owner is bound by the people and Reich to the responsible management of his goods. His legal position is only justified when he satisfies this responsibility to the community. … There are no personal liberties of the individual which fall outside of the realm of the state and which must be respected by the state."

Both communism and fascism establish total censorship and tolerate no freedom of thought--thus rejecting rights in the spiritual realm as well. Nazi writer Friedrich Sieburg stated: "There are to be no more private Germans … each is to attain significance only by his service to the state."

Few on the Left care to remember that "Nazi" is a shortening of Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei: National Socialist German Workers Party.

Whether the dictatorship claims the mantle of the Aryan race or the proletariat matters little to the individuals crushed by it. To search for some trivial superiority of Soviet gulags over Nazi concentration camps, or vice-versa, would be morally obscene.

So, we observe a fundamental difference: one system grants the state unlimited power, holding that the individual is the rightless slave of the state; the other system holds individual rights to be supreme and inalienable, with the state limited to a single function: the protection of those rights from physical force and fraud.

That is the distinction that must be made. We can expect no clarity in political discussion until the pure, consistent poles are identified: the opposition between dictatorship and liberty, between the individual as the nothing and the individual as sovereign. "Left" and "Right" have to be defined accordingly.

But "Left" and "Right" are informal shorthand. The actual terms are: "statism," on the Left, and "capitalism," on the Right.

The term "statism" carries its meaning on its face. But the term "capitalism" does not and it has to be rescued from a century and a half of distortion, lies--and compromises.

Today's political-economic system is not capitalism--not pure, consistent, uncontrolled, laissez-faire capitalism. Today in America we live in the Entitlement State and the Regulatory State.

A government that taxes 40 percent or more of our income, that controls our medical care, that regulates business so thoroughly that every firm large enough to afford it has a department of "compliance," a government that controls the money supply, sets bank reserve-ratios, regulates stock offerings, margin-ratios, home construction, determines what pharmaceuticals and medical innovations can be sold, operates schools and universities, runs the passenger rail system, forbids "offensive" speech, increasingly intervenes in diet, subsidizes agriculture and "green" businesses, imposes tariffs, decides which businesses may merge, and, we have just learned, spies on its own citizens--is not a government remotely consistent with capitalism.

The closest the world ever came to actual capitalism was the United States in the 19th Century, the era of this country's fastest economic growth. Even in that era, the capitalist, industrial North had to fight a bloody Civil War to end the South's infamous anti-capitalist institution: slavery.

To defend capitalism is a task for another time. The point of this column is deeper. It is that the political spectrum--Left vs. Right--must be defined in terms of statism vs. individual liberty.

The growing use of the term "statism" to identify one of the basic alternatives is a very auspicious development. When the public understands what was understood at this country's founding--that "to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men"--the intellectual revolution will be at hand.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 05, 2021, 08:15:18 AM
Even that is a lie.  Their “communism” is nothing of the sort, it’s just another form of statism. The last thing communist dictators do is uphold their own ideals of ownership by the people.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/harrybinswanger/2013/11/13/statism/?sh=107308d5f5c4

But they’ll get it right this time, and it will be a Utopia!!
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 05, 2021, 08:31:21 AM
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/report-several-planes-filled-us-citizens-afghan-siv-holders-stranded-northern-afghanistan-airport-biden-state-dept-refuses-act/
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on September 05, 2021, 09:18:24 AM
Thought I’d post this here. Wife and I were at Darlington today, that may be a bit redneck for some of you and if you don't know what Darlington is, I can't help you, use your Duck Duck Go fu. Anyway, we’re in our seats and a guy comes up the stairs with a Trump hat on and a t-short with Fuck Biden emblazoned on it in very big bold letters. Loved it.

I've been wanting to camp at a Nascar race for the weekend for a long time.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 05, 2021, 11:53:18 AM
Really sorry to have to report this, but this is close to home. Checker at my grocery store has a son in Afghanistan. This morning she was glued to her phone, which of course she never is, at work. I asked if everything was okay. She gasped and said she is just beside herself. Her son has been transferred to Qatar. She is afraid for him because he says all is chaos.

He drove buses of refugees at Kabul and they just piled on, like they did the airplanes. None were searched in any way before the planes took off. Soldiers were seeing knives and grenades among the “refugees.” He was surprised that the departing planes weren’t blown up by suicide bombers as there were no detectors or searches.

He says there is NO respect for the White House or top brass, only anger at this betrayal, and respect only for those bravely trying to do the right thing on the ground.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 05, 2021, 12:58:53 PM
But they’ll get it right this time, and it will be a Utopia!!

That’s what is stuck in their head they can’t get past. The leftist mentality is unable to accept human nature. I listened to a long debate between Russel Brand and Candace Owen.  I’d say Brand is basically the “good” version of communist ideal, which is actually close to anarchy. He was saying no centralized government is needed because people are altruistic and the community at the local level takes care of itself. Power is in the hands of individuals who turn out be compassionate and voluntarily giving to support their local community. Owens told him “That’s basically conservatism: De-centralized power. You’re a conservative you just don’t know it.” Haha! It was a fantastic score, left him without a coherent rebuttal.

The difference is, Owens understands that human nature requires you to feed yourself first (the “greed” of capitalism and profit motive.) Brand keeps coming back to, “if only people put compassion above self interest” and cannot see that you can’t force that with any kind of policy, only free market economics allows enough prosperity for people to be compassionate.

But he is very against a large centralized power structure. He sees the collaboration between government and corporations. He sees the exact same dichotomy between the elite class and we the common people that the Trump populists, libertarians, classic liberals and constitutional conservatives see. We are all in complete agreement about that.

The difference is he still imagines the solution is a system that isn’t based on profit motive but “compassion” but has zero suggestions how exactly this could come about without force from a master?

He is in contrast to what I’d call an evil communist, who preaches the same “compassion” but knowing it’s a lie, and strengthens the central power against the individual, and keeps you at the point of a gun, all done deliberately in their own self interest.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 05, 2021, 01:04:51 PM
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one...

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 05, 2021, 01:47:10 PM
The United States has not gone Mad.  This is a calculated, purposeful effort to destabilize through divisiveness.   Everything the Elites pushing these lies is to create so much division that we become largely counterproductive.   The end game is subjugation and control.   They want Neo Feudalism.
I disagree. We have gone mad. As long as citizens put up with accepting lies, deceit, fraud and correction by our elected officials, appointed department heads, and career bureaucrats, we will continue to look like we are mindless, gullible infants.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 05, 2021, 03:16:49 PM
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one...

That’s the only thing Spock ever said that I take issue with. Not that it’s always wrong, but that it’s misused to promote collectivism over individualism. Individual sacrifice to save many lives is one thing, maybe I’d do it myself, but subjugating individual rights to some utopian social goal seems to be what people who say that usually mean.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 05, 2021, 03:21:09 PM
That’s the only thing Spock ever said that I take issue with. Not that it’s always wrong, but that it’s misused to promote collectivism over individualism. Individual sacrifice to save many lives is one thing, maybe I’d do it myself, but subjugating individual rights to some utopian social goal seems to be what people who say that usually mean.

don't forget that Spock later understood how that it was not always correct.

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 05, 2021, 04:30:16 PM
don't forget that Spock later understood how that it was not always correct.

He did? I didn’t watch all the movies, I might have missed it. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Jim Logajan on September 05, 2021, 04:45:36 PM
He did? I didn’t watch all the movies, I might have missed it.

Well, it was Kirk who expressed that sentiment to Spock. I haven’t watched all the Star Trek movies either so don’t know if Spock ever repeated it.

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on September 05, 2021, 04:51:04 PM
I disagree. We have gone mad. As long as citizens put up with accepting lies, deceit, fraud and correction by our elected officials, appointed department heads, and career bureaucrats, we will continue to look like we are mindless, gullible infants.

I thought you meant the Elites pushing this crap.  I'd agree that 50% of the U.S. has gone Mad in a sense.  Like Nazi Germany, mass brainwashed, hysteria Mad.  Woke,  castrated, emasculated idiots.

This is purposefull.  The ones buying into it are Mad.  There is a method to their madness.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 05, 2021, 06:09:21 PM
Well, it was Kirk who expressed that sentiment to Spock. I haven’t watched all the Star Trek movies either so don’t know if Spock ever repeated it.



Thank you!  I did see that one but totally forgot that line.  I remember the scene though with the orange sky and Spock not remembering much. But I haven’t seen it since it first came out what 30 or more years ago?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 06, 2021, 05:46:50 PM
https://spectator.org/forgetting-afghanistan-and-all-those-weve-left-behind/

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Americans have pretty short attention spans on matters of national security and foreign policy. We can focus on a real crisis — like Biden’s botched Afghanistan withdrawal — but once we’re assured that the crisis is over, our attention drifts.
It’s already happening on Biden’s Afghanistan debacle. After all, the president assured us that the war there is over, so what’s the point in worrying about it even if hundreds of American civilians and thousands of our Afghan allies were abandoned?
Republicans chuckling that Biden just handed them the House and the Senate in 2022 ought to think about that. The voters are likely to forget Afghanistan by Halloween.
The headlines are already focusing on whether people should get a COVID booster shot, on Nancy Pelosi’s $3.5 trillion federal spending porn legislation, and on the Supreme Court’s seeming approval of the Texas law that bans abortion after six weeks of pregnancy. (The Court didn’t affirm the law. For procedural reasons, it just didn’t ban it pending further proceedings.)
It’s been a week since the end of President Biden’s evacuations left behind hundreds of American civilians and thousands of Afghans who had worked faithfully with us.
In that week, we have heard precisely nothing about how many American civilians the State Department has gotten out of Afghanistan — which means there weren’t any. The State Department is supposedly working with the Taliban to get those people out.
Biden said that the evacuation was an “extraordinary success,” which was just another one of his lies the media didn’t challenge.
Doesn’t it seem strange that we haven’t seen any televised interviews with evacuated Americans? Why aren’t the media getting them on camera to talk about how glad they are to have gotten home? Where are the interviews — anywhere in the media — with them and some of the evacuated Afghans?
You don’t see these interviews because two factors dominate the media. First, their dedication to protecting Biden from the aftermath of the disaster he created. Second, they’re already too busy with other things to pay much attention to the Afghanistan debacle.
The media, eager to be manipulated by the Biden team, won’t publish information that doesn’t follow the Biden narrative. They will try to excuse themselves by claiming that information isn’t coming out of Afghanistan, but Western media won’t even ask Taliban spokesmen hard questions. The Taliban are totalitarians. There won’t be information coming out of Afghanistan that they don’t like.
The media are, as always, “on message” with the Biden narrative. Some of us remember the headline on every edition of network nightly news during the 1979-1980 crisis when Iranian terrorists held fifty-two Americans hostage for 444 days. Every night the news counted the days those Americans were held against their will. Now, there isn’t even any solid information on how many Americans and Afghan allies were left behind. All we have heard from Foggy Bottom is that fewer than half of the Afghans we wanted to get out were evacuated.
Within a few weeks or even days, most Americans will have forgotten Afghanistan. They’ve already forgotten that Biden, in his 23 July conversation with then-Afghan President Ashraf Ghani, asked Ghani to lie by saying the fight against the Taliban was going well. Three weeks later, the Taliban had reconquered Afghanistan and Ghani had fled.
Biden’s team has been working hard to ensure we forget Afghanistan. Last week the Government Accountability Office removed from public availability about 300 reports it had made on how many weapon systems — everything ranging from attack aircraft to armored Humvees and about a half million rifles and tons of ammunition — we had provided the Afghan National Security Forces which they had abandoned to the Taliban. Those reports were removed at the request of the State Department.
No one is even mentioning Biden’s failure to demand that our multi-billion-dollar Kabul embassy be blown up to prevent the Russians, Chinese, Iranians, and Pakistanis from reverse-engineering our cyber and other defensive systems. Or the fact that the Taliban were using our abandoned biometric system to identify Afghans who had supported Coalition forces. Or the fact that our forces abandoned at least one CRAM — counter-rocket, artillery, and mortar system — to the Taliban. (CRAM is a land-based version of the CWIS, the shipboard “close-in weapons system” that is a radar-guided automatic 20mm cannon that fires a stream of lead in the path of incoming fire.)
Biden said that the war in Afghanistan was over. He obviously doesn’t understand that the Taliban are undefeated and can continue the war on their terms, meaning establishing safe havens from which terrorists can mount attacks against us or our allies.
Secretary of State Antony Blinken has said that the Taliban have promised not to harbor Islamic terrorists. He apparently is ignorant of the fact that the Taliban are Islamic terrorists. Blinken has also said that we were working with the Taliban to get the Americans left behind out of Afghanistan. Is the Biden plan to pay ransom for the Americans left behind?
National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan wouldn’t rule out sending “humanitarian aid” and financial aid to the Taliban. Again, that portends ransom payments.
Gen. Mark Milley, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that we could work with the Taliban against ISIS. He apparently doesn’t understand that the Taliban are still our enemy and that the common enemy of the Taliban and ISIS is the United States.
Milley also said, “…what you saw unfold with this noncombatant evacuation operation was one of the contingency plans.” So the plan was to leave hundreds of American civilians and Afghan allies behind?
Milley told Fox News that, “I think there’s at least a very good probability of a broader civil war and that will then, in turn, lead to conditions that could, in fact, lead to a reconstitution of al-Qaeda or a growth of ISIS or other myriad of (sic) terrorist groups.”
It’s nice to see that he has begun to think about what I and several others have been forecasting for years: Taliban reconquest of Afghanistan followed immediately by their establishment of terrorist safe havens. How did this putz get to be a general, far less chairman of the Joint Chiefs?
Congressional inquiries won’t accomplish anything. One committee has demanded to see Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s plans for the evacuation. Those plans probably were drawn on a paper napkin.
But none of the abandoned armaments or any of Biden’s or his advisers’ pronouncements or any “war is over” headlines are nearly as important as the abandoned American civilians. No one really knows how many there are. We have seen the reports of people who were waving blue US passports, begging to be let into the Hamid Karzai International Airport and evacuated.
All of that will be quickly forgotten.
Biden has abandoned his presidential duty by failing to evacuate every American citizen from Afghanistan and then failing to compel the Taliban to release the Americans he left behind. It is a new low for America.
Pentagon spokesman John Kirby assured the media that Americans “get stranded” in foreign countries “all the time.” His statement contains a scintilla of truth. Natural disasters, pandemics, and wars can often strand Americans in foreign lands. But we never — ever — abandon Americans to a foreign enemy. Even Jimmy Carter knew that and tried — unsuccessfully — to free the Iranians’ hostages in 1980.
Biden, Milley, Blinken, and flunkies such as Kirby have all forgotten the American credo of nemo resideo: no man left behind. It’s an essential part of our military’s creed and no less a part of the duty of our government.
Biden won’t use military force to evacuate the Americans and Afghan allies he left behind. More likely is that he’ll try to ransom them from the Taliban. Many will be imprisoned, tortured, enslaved, or murdered. We need to remind him of their plight every damn day.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 08, 2021, 07:20:20 AM
The Talibiden are obviously racist!!!   How can they desecrate a shrine to a Saint!!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/07/the-soul-of-kabul-taliban-paint-over-murals-with-victory-slogans
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on September 08, 2021, 07:52:06 AM
The Talibiden are obviously racist!!!   How can they desecrate a shrine to a Saint!!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/07/the-soul-of-kabul-taliban-paint-over-murals-with-victory-slogans
Maybe some of the Taliban that Biden imported can paint over all the BLM shrines here.  It's OK if they do it.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 08, 2021, 08:36:55 AM
On the one hand it is very disturbing to me to hear that our own military attempted to reculturalize them by doing things like flying the rainbow flag.

On the other hand in this internet connected world, with the young generation protected from the Taliban for 20 years, it's natural they would connect to other cultures (the west) and form views on things like George Floyd.  I have no problem with citizens expanding their perspectives and expressing their opinions. But it wasn't the place for an occupying military to do that.

In any case the ultra conservative Taliban is reacting against this. Is anybody surprised?
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 08, 2021, 09:11:02 AM
Maybe some of the Taliban that Biden imported can paint over all the BLM shrines here.  It's OK if they do it.
They’ll probably get their child brides and multiple wives to do that. I hear that is a significant issue with the non-screened Taliban - I mean Afghanistan- people that Biden just dropped into Wisconsin and elsewhere.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 08, 2021, 10:00:40 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/state-department-concerned-about-afghanistans-new-taliban-government-because-theyre-all-male

State Department Concerned About Afghanistan’s New Talibiden Government – Because They’re All Male

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The U.S. State Department has voiced concern about Afghanistan’s new Taliban government, not just because the new government is made up of members of a terrorist organization, but because the new government isn’t “inclusive.”

In a statement provided to The Hill, a State Department spokesperson said that even though the Taliban “has presented this as a caretaker cabinet,” America “will judge the Taliban by its actions, not words.”

The Taliban had claimed previously that it welcomed women in government roles, The Daily Wire reported.

But so far, the Taliban has not upheld that pledge. The terrorist organization announced a list of names of new government officials on Tuesday, which the State Department said “consists exclusively of individuals who are members of the Taliban or their close associates and no women.”

The State Department went on to say that it was “concerned by the affiliations and track records of some of the individuals.”

As the Hill reported, Afghanistan’s acting interior minister, Sirajuddin Haqqani, is “currently wanted by the FBI in connection with a 2008 attack on a Kabul hotel that left six people, including a U.S. citizen, dead.” The FBI originally “offered a $5 million reward for information leading to Haqqani’s arrest but increased the reward to $10 million later Tuesday.,” the outlet added.

In mid-August, after the Taliban took control of Afghanistan, a member of its cultural commission, Enamullah Samangani claimed that the new government would treat women fairly.

“The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is ready to provide women with environment to work and study, and the presence of women in different (government) structures according to Islamic law and in accordance with our cultural values,” Samangani said, according to the Associated Press.

The State Department on Tuesday said the Biden Administration would “continue to hold the Taliban to their commitments to allow safe passage for foreign nationals and Afghans with travel documents, including permitting flights currently ready to fly out of Afghanistan to agreed-upon onward destinations.”

“We also reiterate our clear expectation that the Taliban ensure that Afghan soil is not used to threaten any other countries and allow humanitarian access in support of the Afghan people,” the State Department added. “The world is watching closely.”

Under Taliban rule in the past, women were not allowed to go to school or even leave their homes without a male escort. Reports from Afghanistan since the Taliban takeover indicate the terrorist organization has not changed or become more moderate, as it claims. The Daily Wire reported in mid-August that a woman had been shot and killed by a member of the Taliban for not wearing a burqa. The Daily Wire also reported:

Taliban militants are reportedly conducting door-to-door searches in Kabul looking for Afghan government officials, military members, and others who worked with the United States and other western countries.

Taliban militants are also seeking out journalists. While the terrorist group has promised safety and publicly called for a “peaceful” transfer of power, refugees who flocked to Kabul prior to its fall said that the Taliban has already begun forced marriages and executions in outlying cities and towns.

“Taliban started door to door search looking for govt officials, former police & security forces members & those who worked for foreign countries NGOs or infrastructures in Afghanistan. At least 3 journalists’ houses were searched in the last hour. Kabul is now becoming deadly,” one Kabul-based journalist tweeted on Monday. “This is a game-changer for us all. Many have started counting their final hours of life in Kabul. Nobody knows what happens next. Pray for us.”

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 08, 2021, 10:15:45 AM
https://www.dailywire.com/news/state-department-concerned-about-afghanistans-new-taliban-government-because-theyre-all-male

State Department Concerned About Afghanistan’s New Talibiden Government – Because They’re All Male
Here’s an idea. Why doesn’t the State department start with discouraging sex slavery, genital mutilation, stoning of women who have been raped, execution of women who have taken a job, and honor killing beheadings of women before worrying about Afghan women not being in the government?

I can’t imagine the circle jerks going on at Foggy Bottom, thinking that they are doing important work or something.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Number7 on September 08, 2021, 10:32:01 AM
… because they’re ducking assholes.
And that’s on their good days.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: jb1842 on September 08, 2021, 02:39:14 PM
Today I had the honor of witnessing the procession of one of the victims of Biden's treachery. HM3 Max Soviak was from the next town over and graduated with my cousin. The procession just happened to get on the freeway before I did, and I followed it for a few miles until they let people pass and I got off on a different exit. I haven't shed tears in awhile, but this one really hurt.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 08, 2021, 03:08:45 PM
Awwwww.   :'(
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on September 09, 2021, 05:29:18 AM
Here’s an idea. Why doesn’t the State department start with discouraging sex slavery, genital mutilation, stoning of women who have been raped, execution of women who have taken a job, and honor killing beheadings of women before worrying about Afghan women not being in the government?

I can’t imagine the circle jerks going on at Foggy Bottom, thinking that they are doing important work or something.

Because they operate on ego and fear. 

They are afraid of what the media will say about them if they screw things up.  100% of what a leftist politician does is oriented toward minimizing negative press.  It's all about them not looking bad.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 09, 2021, 07:19:53 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/itORfka.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 09, 2021, 07:21:34 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/itORfka.jpg)

shouldn't that be a scumbag calling the taliban trash telling them that their warranty is about to expire?

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 09, 2021, 07:23:02 AM
shouldn't that be a scumbag calling the taliban trash telling them that their warranty is about to expire?


 You must be a load of fun at party's.............   ::)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 09, 2021, 07:25:21 AM


 You must be a load of fun at party's.............   ::)

I guess you missed the point... :o
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 09, 2021, 08:36:28 AM
Because they operate on ego and fear. 

They are afraid of what the media will say about them if they screw things up.  100% of what a leftist politician does is oriented toward minimizing negative press.  It's all about them not looking bad.
I totally agree, and always felt that. That’s why Trump was so much of a maverick, and was hated for that. He didn’t care what the media would say.

Yet how could the State Department or the White House think that what they are doing won’t look bad?  I know they know that the have they media in the bag, but even a blind person can see how things have gotten so fucked up. Even some of the media can’t ignore it any more. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on September 09, 2021, 09:43:34 AM
I totally agree, and always felt that. That’s why Trump was so much of a maverick, and was hated for that. He didn’t care what the media would say.

Yet how could the State Department or the White House think that what they are doing won’t look bad?  I know they know that the have they media in the bag, but even a blind person can see how things have gotten so fucked up. Even some of the media can’t ignore it any more.
My in-laws thing Biden is doing a wonderful job.

They think banning the pipeline in the US will help stop global warming.
They are glad he is restricting oil and gas exploration on Federal land
They think we should be helping the poor and taxing the rich.
They think we should be out of Afghanistan.

But they don't care about Biden pushing other countries to pump more oil or subsidizing pipelines in other countries that benefit our enemies.
They don't believe that it is the middle class, and their kids and grand kids that are going to be taxed the hardest.
They are convinced that the fucked up Afgthanistan withdrawal was inevitable and Trumps fault. (They actually think both those things are true.

I"m with you guys on almost everything, but I disagree with you all on the Covid vaccine, so you can all go ahead and keep on being pissed at me.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 09, 2021, 09:54:13 AM
so you can all go ahead and keep on being pissed at me.

Awwwww.............you poor thing.   :'(
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 09, 2021, 09:58:18 AM
..., but I disagree with you all on the Covid vaccine, so you can all go ahead and keep on being pissed at me.

"all"?

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: nddons on September 09, 2021, 09:58:37 AM
My in-laws thing Biden is doing a wonderful job.

They think banning the pipeline in the US will help stop global warming.
They are glad he is restricting oil and gas exploration on Federal land
They think we should be helping the poor and taxing the rich.
They think we should be out of Afghanistan.

But they don't care about Biden pushing other countries to pump more oil or subsidizing pipelines in other countries that benefit our enemies.
They don't believe that it is the middle class, and their kids and grand kids that are going to be taxed the hardest.
They are convinced that the fucked up Afgthanistan withdrawal was inevitable and Trumps fault. (They actually think both those things are true.

I"m with you guys on almost everything, but I disagree with you all on the Covid vaccine, so you can all go ahead and keep on being pissed at me.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/krhW9yWEI0x0Y/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on September 09, 2021, 10:07:59 AM
I"m with you guys on almost everything, but I disagree with you all on the Covid vaccine, so you can all go ahead and keep on being pissed at me.
Can you remind me of your stand on the vaccine?  From what I recall, we're pretty much in agreement.  But I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Little Joe on September 09, 2021, 10:11:23 AM
"all"?
Yeah, I often get caught when I incorrectly use words like "all", "everyone", etc...
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Anthony on September 09, 2021, 10:52:06 AM
My in-laws thing Biden is doing a wonderful job.

They think banning the pipeline in the US will help stop global warming.
They are glad he is restricting oil and gas exploration on Federal land
They think we should be helping the poor and taxing the rich.
They think we should be out of Afghanistan.

But they don't care about Biden pushing other countries to pump more oil or subsidizing pipelines in other countries that benefit our enemies.
They don't believe that it is the middle class, and their kids and grand kids that are going to be taxed the hardest.
They are convinced that the fucked up Afgthanistan withdrawal was inevitable and Trumps fault. (They actually think both those things are true.

I"m with you guys on almost everything, but I disagree with you all on the Covid vaccine, so you can all go ahead and keep on being pissed at me.

And your wife is lockstep with them like a good little Marxist chip off the old block.    ;D

Nobody is "pissed" you disagree.  Just back it up with reason.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 09, 2021, 02:19:23 PM
Yeah, I often get caught when I incorrectly use words like "all", "everyone", etc...

such words often (get it?) get my attention...  especially on those occasions when I don't consider myself one of the "all" or "everyone"

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 15, 2021, 07:17:02 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/W85ZFyL.jpg)
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: bflynn on September 15, 2021, 07:38:57 AM
There is one part of the oil pipeline thing that I'm satisfied with.  As long as we're using everyone else's oil, there is a future point where the US becomes the only place left in the world with oil in the ground. 
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Rush on September 15, 2021, 08:00:43 AM
There is one part of the oil pipeline thing that I'm satisfied with.  As long as we're using everyone else's oil, there is a future point where the US becomes the only place left in the world with oil in the ground.

Haha! But it would be a thousand years in the future before the rest of the world runs out, if ever.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on September 15, 2021, 08:04:53 AM
Haha! But it would be a thousand years in the future before the rest of the world runs out, if ever.
By then they just might have perfected the technology so a pound of batteries holds the same amount of energy as a pound of gas.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 15, 2021, 08:13:44 AM
There is one part of the oil pipeline thing that I'm satisfied with.  As long as we're using everyone else's oil, there is a future point where the US becomes the only place left in the world with oil in the ground.

by then certain groups will be more than happy that the US military will be emasculated

Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 22, 2021, 05:00:38 AM
Amazing how quickly they got Afghanistan out of the news.    Also, a senior general commits treason against the US and........nothing.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Username on September 22, 2021, 05:54:01 AM
Amazing how quickly they got Afghanistan out of the news.    Also, a senior general commits treason against the US and........nothing.
But lead story on CNN: Trump had plans to overthrow the government!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/donald-trump-new-revelations/index.html
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 22, 2021, 06:00:49 AM
But lead story on CNN: Trump had plans to overthrow the government!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/donald-trump-new-revelations/index.html

  CNN has collapsed without Trump.   Their viewership is now less than PBS.   Since they shifted to a pure propaganda outlet no one can take them seriously, except for the total brainwashed leftist idiots.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on September 22, 2021, 06:10:08 AM
But lead story on CNN: Trump had plans to overthrow the government!
https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/donald-trump-new-revelations/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/22/politics/donald-trump-new-revelations/index.html)
Need something to distract from the Sussman indictment and the news that is coming out about that.
Title: Re: Afghanistan defeat
Post by: Lucifer on September 25, 2021, 01:40:58 PM