PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Joe-KansasCity on November 09, 2016, 03:08:47 AM
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It time to unwind the last 8 years of far left policies and destruction of our great country. While the left will demand reconciliation and compromise, I believe the only way to truly right the ship is to drain the swamp. Prosecuting and placing a few corrupt politicians in jail will send a clear message that lawlessness among the ruling class will no longer be tolerated. Full investigations into the corruption at the IRS, Justice and FBI should start the day after Trumps inauguration. There is no way America will trust our government again if it is not cleaned up, and IMHO dramatically reduced the size and scope of Federal, State and Local governments.
When the cries of outrage from the left begin, they need to be reminded of the words spewed by Obama after a few days in office...
"Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won."
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When the cries of outrage from the left begin, they need to be reminded of the words spewed by Obama after a few days in office...
"Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won."
Obama was an arrogant, far left, radical activist, who used the Office of the Presidency to Fundamentally Transform the U.S. into a communist, banana republic. Trump doesn't have to be arrogant like Obama, but must persevere to reverse all that he did, and also create an environment for capitalist, private sector, economic growth.
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Obama was an arrogant, far left, radical activist, who used the Office of the Presidency to Fundamentally Transform the U.S. into a communist, banana republic. Trump doesn't have to be arrogant like Obama, but must persevere to reverse all that he did, and also create an environment for capitalist, private sector, economic growth.
He will need to do both simultaneous when possible. If he spends his first year or more repealing everything Obama did then I don't think that'll go over well. However, if he works with Congress to repeal certain things that Obama did while simultaneously replacing it with something better and he can explain that, he'll get a lot further.
He's said he'll do a lot on "Day 1" but I'm curious what he starts with. There's a lot he could start with.
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I think he needs to do these things simultaneously, ASAP.
1. Work to replace Obamacare as that is really hurting people.
2. Close the borders.
3. Work on the economy, and job creation. (lower corporate tax rate, de-regulation to a reasonable level)
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Obama was an arrogant, far left, radical activist, who used the Office of the Presidency to Fundamentally Transform the U.S. into a communist, banana republic. Trump doesn't have to be arrogant like Obama, but must persevere to reverse all that he did, and also create an environment for capitalist, private sector, economic growth.
Agreed, but there should be no wavering relative to the wants and wishes of the left. The citizens of the United States gave full control of the country to Team R last night. No more progressive light. Capitalism and and the ideal of a smaller government need another shot at salvaging this great country. The war was won...now as gracious winners Team R needs to heed the wish of those who put them in office last night. This is not the time for white flags and group hugs.
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It would be no big problem to have executive orders repealing Obama's idiotic ones and signing them on day one to send a clear message that the criminal abuse of the constitution will not be the order of the day anymore.
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Agreed, but there should be no wavering relative to the wants and wishes of the left. The citizens of the United States gave full control of the country to Team R last night. No more progressive light. Capitalism and and the ideal of a smaller government need another shot at salvaging this great country. The war was won...now as gracious winners Team R needs to heed the wish of those who put them in office last night. This is not the time for white flags and group hugs.
This ^^^^^
Trump's first 100 days should have heads swimming if he wants to keep the people's trust that he was given last night.
The time for calls for Trump to conciliate to the Left should be ignored, and whoever calls for it should be driven out.
This is the first time, in 90 years, literally almost a century, that the Republicans have had the White House, the Senate and the House (hello 1928) - let the Democrats be the loyal opposition (they will of course be obstructionists and destructive ones at that) but the Republicans MUST focus on action. The GOP has shown time and again that they will not do that on their own, Trump and team will have to drag them kicking and screaming along the way.
I still don't actually believe it.
'Gimp
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This is the first time, in 90 years, literally almost a century, that the Republicans have had the White House, the Senate and the House (hello 1928) - let the Democrats be the loyal opposition (they will of course be obstructionists and destructive ones at that) but the Republicans MUST focus on action. The GOP has shown time and again that they will not do that on their own, Trump and team will have to drag them kicking and screaming along the way.
I still don't actually believe it.
'Gimp
Didn't George W. Bush have the House and Senate his first two years?
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Remember when Obama said the republicans can come along for the ride.......but they have to sit at the back of the bus!
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Which President said, "Election have consequences and we won"
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Which President said, "Election have consequences and we won"
That would be Obama as he rammed through Obamacare which as we all know is a devastating failure putting hardship on most Americans. He was arrogant. Extremely arrogant.
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That would be Obama as he rammed through Obamacare which as we all know is a devastating failure putting hardship on most Americans. He was arrogant. Extremely arrogant.
Still is.
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Didn't George W. Bush have the House and Senate his first two years?
Republican House, Democrat Senate for 'W' in 2001-2003.
This is the first time the Republican's have had the White House, the Senate and the House since 1928, literally not happened since Herbert Hoover, almost 90 years ago.
'Gimp
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Agreed, but there should be no wavering relative to the wants and wishes of the left. The citizens of the United States gave full control of the country to Team R last night. No more progressive light. Capitalism and and the ideal of a smaller government need another shot at salvaging this great country. The war was won...now as gracious winners Team R needs to heed the wish of those who put them in office last night. This is not the time for white flags and group hugs.
I agree. NO MORE PROGRESSIVE LIGHT. Trump has two years of a Republican Congress. USE IT to right Obama's wrongs, and be creative with policies to allow private sector growth while not increasing debt, which means grow the economy.
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Republican House, Democrat Senate for 'W' in 2001-2003.
This is the first time the Republican's have had the White House, the Senate and the House since 1928, literally not happened since Herbert Hoover, almost 90 years ago.
'Gimp
Thanks Gimp. My memory must be failing. :)
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Count on Chuckie Schumer to make prolific use of the filibuster.
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Count on Chuckie Schumer to make prolific use of the filibuster.
Schmuck Chumer should choke. Smarmy POS.
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Pelosi was an arrogant, far left, radical activist,
FTFY
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FTFY
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What did you "fix"?
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Pelosi and Reid spearheaded a lot of the crap that happened in 2009. When the D's held the executive and legislative branches, they squandered their opportunity to enact meaningful legislation. Obama's inauguration speech inspired confidence of collaboration in bipartisanship fashion. That all changed when the Democratic congress spat on bipartisanship. They had an opportunity to show their strengths, and instead proved they're satisfied being petty partisan fucknozzles.
I still believe that Obama is a conservative democrat. He's a victim of circumstance, however. If he goes against his party, he ends his administration and effectively crushes the Democratic Party. If he plays along, the opposition party demagogues him yet the Democratic Party remains cohesive. He chose party over country, which sealed the deal on any bipartisanship for the next six years.
Republicans now have a tremendous opportunity. The party was on the brink of disaster in 2008, and have successfully turned the tables on the Democrats. The Republicans can choose to raise themselves to a higher standard by collaborating with their counterparts. They can show the electorate that compromise and collaboration are not just bigger "C words." They can strengthen their party and increase their support by simply working with their counterparts, both within their party and in the Democratic Party.
Or, they can show the electorate just how petty a bunch of fucknozzles they are by pulling the same bullshit the Democratic Congress did in 2009-2010.
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I still believe that Obama is a conservative democrat.
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I still believe that Obama is a conservative democrat.
What part of Fundamental Transformation leads you to assert that?
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What part of Fundamental Transformation leads you to assert that?
http://www.obamatheconservative.com
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It time to unwind the last 8 years of far left policies and destruction of our great country. While the left will demand reconciliation and compromise, I believe the only way to truly right the ship is to drain the swamp. Prosecuting and placing a few corrupt politicians in jail will send a clear message that lawlessness among the ruling class will no longer be tolerated. Full investigations into the corruption at the IRS, Justice and FBI should start the day after Trumps inauguration. There is no way America will trust our government again if it is not cleaned up, and IMHO dramatically reduced the size and scope of Federal, State and Local governments.
When the cries of outrage from the left begin, they need to be reminded of the words spewed by Obama after a few days in office...
"Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won."
It's a dangerous precedent to set and even to talk about. Dems discussed putting Bush in prison over what he did and ultimately decided not to. And you don't want the standard to become that every person will be put in prison after their service because the next time it won't be you.
There are a couple that I'd like to see pulled in and questioned a little more throughly, but we can also be a little magnanimous.
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I think Trump should just let Hillary fade away. It is great not seeing her, nor hearing her grating voice all the time. Her fangs have been pulled. Let it go.
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I think Trump should just let Hillary fade away. It is great not seeing her, nor hearing her grating voice all the time. Her fangs have been pulled. Let it go.
She is destroyed. She and Bill can no longer sell million dollar twenty minute speeches, her foundation will shrink away as donors no longer have a reason to "donate". Her (and Bill's) political career is over.
Hell, even Chelsea will probably have to downsize.
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I still believe that Obama is a conservative democrat.
Can you give a couple examples of anything conservative he has ever done or said?
Look at who he hung around with starting with the Choom gang thru "Frank," Ayers, Dorn, Wright. Read his books. Ask Joe the plumber if he agrees on spreading the wealth around. Ask anyone who has lost their health insurance or faces huge premium increases.
Ask Officer Darren Wilson if Obama is conservative. Ask Cambridge police Sergeant James Crowley.
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Read his books
^^^^^This. Obama told us who he was before he was elected in "Dreams of My Father". Very telling.
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The party was on the brink of disaster in 2008, and have successfully turned the tables on the Democrats.
I don't believe the Republicans had much part in turning the tables. Trump and a very upset following did that. Now that he won, the Republicans are embracing him as one of their own. I'm glad to see it, even if it is very hypocritical of them.
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Can you give a couple examples of anything conservative he has ever done or said?
Look at who he hung around with starting with the Choom gang thru "Frank," Ayers, Dorn, Wright. Read his books. Ask Joe the plumber if he agrees on spreading the wealth around. Ask anyone who has lost their health insurance or faces huge premium increases.
Ask Officer Darren Wilson if Obama is conservative. Ask Cambridge police Sergeant James Crowley.
How did saying he is a conservative Democrat ever equate to him being a conservative? The two are not one and the same.
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Republican House, Democrat Senate for 'W' in 2001-2003.
This is the first time the Republican's have had the White House, the Senate and the House since 1928, literally not happened since Herbert Hoover, almost 90 years ago.
'Gimp
And leave it to the GOP to squander this opportunity.
If they don't maximize their leverage over these next 24 months and pass major GOP initiatives, we should torch the Capitol and start over.
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Hey, it's 5:00 somewhere.
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It's a dangerous precedent to set and even to talk about. Dems discussed putting Bush in prison over what he did and ultimately decided not to. And you don't want the standard to become that every person will be put in prison after their service because the next time it won't be you.
There are a couple that I'd like to see pulled in and questioned a little more throughly, but we can also be a little magnanimous.
In my opinion, your attempt at equivalency falls way short. Bush may have done things that his detractors disliked, but in no way did he do anything that even hints at the level of corruption that has been exposed by Democrats during this election cycle. The RICO-like activity of the Clinton Foundation, the clear mishandling of classified materials, lying to congress, obstruction of justice, etc, etc, etc....that has been exposed cannot, and should not go unpunished. Special prosecutors need to be put in place and guilty parties, whomever they may be, need to be held accountable. I'd prefer hanging on the National Mall, but would settle for any sentence as long as these elitist fools are held accountable. To do nothing, and let them off without any punishment only propagates the cesspool, and the anger it creates among the electorate.
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And leave it to the GOP to squander this opportunity.
If they don't maximize their leverage over these next 24 months and pass major GOP initiatives, we should torch the Capitol and start over.
After torching the politi-media establishment, this is the next most important 'potential' aspect of Trump's election, it actually gives the GOP an opportunity to push for real change and a real agenda.
Rush covered it today that in terms of actual offices held nationwide this is the weakest that the Dem's have been since the 1920's, and the most powerful that the Republican's have been perhaps ever.
The risk is the GOP reaches across the aisle in a magnanimous way and gives away the hard won progress, or pulls back because of the manufactured and bought and paid for protests/riots, or falls prey once again to the siren song of the media and then pulls back to avoid being called mean things.
With Trump, they can let him take the slings and arrows since it clearly has no effect on him, but they are going to have to actually follow-through to make it worthwhile. Build the wall, kick illegals out, end anchor babies, control immigration, enforce the law, repeal and replace Obamacare, undo the Executive Order regulations placed on our nation in extraconstitutional ways, unleash the economic engine and see how it goes, can't be worse than the last 12 years.
'Gimp
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In my opinion, your attempt at equivalency falls way short. Bush may have done things that his detractors disliked, but in no way did he do anything that even hints at the level of corruption that has been exposed by Democrats during this election cycle. The RICO-like activity of the Clinton Foundation, the clear mishandling of classified materials, lying to congress, obstruction of justice, etc, etc, etc....that has been exposed cannot, and should not go unpunished. Special prosecutors need to be put in place and guilty parties, whomever they may be, need to be held accountable. I'd prefer hanging on the National Mall, but would settle for any sentence as long as these elitist fools are held accountable. To do nothing, and let them off without any punishment only propagates the cesspool, and the anger it creates among the electorate.
Exactly. Nothing that Bush ever did rose to the level that the Clinton's have done. If the Republicans let it go then the Democrats will just keep doing it and nothing will ever change. It sets a dangerous precedent. It also reinforces the double standard that if you're among the political elite you can get away with it, but if you're not then you'll be thrown in jail quickly.
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The risk is the GOP reaches across the aisle in a magnanimous way and gives away the hard won progress, or pulls back because of the manufactured and bought and paid for protests/riots, or falls prey once again to the siren song of the media and then pulls back to avoid being called mean things.
I'm fine with the Republicans reaching across the aisle. In fact, I think they should. They should do it to show that they want to be team players and work together to move the country forward. If the Democrats don't want to play ball then move ahead without them. At the very least, it'll show that the Republicans at least made the attempt unlike the Democrats in 2009 when they rammed Obamacare through.
Don't confuse my saying they should reach across the aisle with giving in. Compromises will have to be made in certain areas, but the Republicans need to dictate the terms and stick to them, not the Democrats. Chuck Schumer doesn't control the senate, Mitch McConnell and the Republicans do and they need to ensure the Democrats understand that from day one. I was impressed with McConnell's decision to not give hearings to Garland and stick to it. Now he needs to do that to the Democrats on other issues.