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Title: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 07, 2020, 06:21:26 PM
Wife and I are doing Keto. I've also done Atkins in the past. Keto now because my wife would do it.


Breakfast was French toast and dinner was pizza.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: jb1842 on March 07, 2020, 06:38:24 PM
I've been doing keto for past 2 weeks. Whats the french toast recipe?
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 08, 2020, 07:18:58 AM
I've been doing keto for past 2 weeks. Whats the french toast recipe?
Fairly simple.  You need a flat bottom mug, we use a soup mug. In the mug you mix 2 tblsp of almond flour, coconut flour and 1.5 tspn of baking powder along with 2 tblsp of heavy cream and two eggs. Mix it all together and make sure the dry ingredients are thoroughly mixed in and put in the microwave for 2-3 minutes. Use a toothpick to make sure it has cooked.  Take it out of the mug and slice it.  Mix a batter of eggs and heavy cream, soak the bread in the batter and fry in a pan.

Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Rush on March 08, 2020, 07:57:02 AM
I love keto, I do great on it. But I have an unfortunate carb addiction. It’s going to be the death of me. Probably literally.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 08, 2020, 08:15:06 AM
Had Keto pancakes this morning.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Anthony on March 08, 2020, 08:15:55 AM
Had Keto pancakes this morning.

Made from Cauliflower? 
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 08, 2020, 08:44:34 AM
Had all the ingredients on hand so made a double batch of the French toast “bread” in a square Pyrex dish. It turned out beautifully!

So how much maple syrup can I put on the French toast and still have it be keto?

Kidding. We were Paleo for 4.5 years so I know a bit about this.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 08, 2020, 09:52:00 AM
Made from Cauliflower?
Almond flour, heavy cream, sweetener and egg yolks mixed together. The egg whites are beaten and folded in to the mixture. Very simple.

I don't do cauliflower anything.  ;D
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 08, 2020, 09:52:59 AM
Had all the ingredients on hand so made a double batch of the French toast “bread” in a square Pyrex dish. It turned out beautifully!

So how much maple syrup can I put on the French toast and still have it be keto?

Kidding. We were Paleo for 4.5 years so I know a bit about this.
Currently we use Mrs. Butterworth's Sugar Free syrup
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 08, 2020, 11:21:06 AM
Currently we use Mrs. Butterworth's Sugar Free syrup
Not that crapload of fake sugar and chemicals!!!! Nooooo!!!!

Use berries. We used blueberries. And a dab of full-fat yogurt.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Anthony on March 08, 2020, 11:49:32 AM
Are Cheesesteaks and a side of fries Keto?
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 08, 2020, 12:00:50 PM
Are Cheesesteaks and a side of fries Keto?

and beer, right?
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 08, 2020, 12:56:36 PM
Are Cheesesteaks and a side of fries Keto?
::)
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on March 08, 2020, 01:04:37 PM
and beer, right?
Gotta wash it down with something, right?
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: jb1842 on March 08, 2020, 01:12:24 PM
Almond flour, heavy cream, sweetener and egg yolks mixed together. The egg whites are beaten and folded in to the mixture. Very simple.

I don't do cauliflower anything.  ;D

I like cauliflower. But whoever decided that cauliflower makes a good pizza crust needs to be beaten like a red-headed stepchild with a rubber hose.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: jb1842 on March 08, 2020, 01:14:27 PM
My favorite recipe is crack chicken. Google for recipe, I can't remember it. I would eat it even if I wasn't on keto. One tip is to blend the sause separately after cooking to mix it really well.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Steingar on March 09, 2020, 07:54:33 AM
Never gone in for any of these fad diets.  Exercise and portion control have always been my thing.  Was back at my fighting weight for quite awhile, holidays put the kibosh on that.  I'm still pretty good and will probably get back there as a matter of course.

That said, whatever works.  Whatever it is, it has to be sustainable and desirable.  Otherwise you just go back to what made you fat in the first place. 

Good luck Eppy.  I hope it works for you.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Anthony on March 09, 2020, 08:17:43 AM
Never gone in for any of these fad diets.  Exercise and portion control have always been my thing.  Was back at my fighting weight for quite awhile, holidays put the kibosh on that.  I'm still pretty good and will probably get back there as a matter of course.

That said, whatever works.  Whatever it is, it has to be sustainable and desirable.  Otherwise you just go back to what made you fat in the first place. 

Good luck Eppy.  I hope it works for you.

This is my philosophy as well, but I can understand someone wanting to knock some weight off fast with a little "trick" diet that forces you to abide by the rules.  The key is to once you lose that weight and do go back to a regular diet, use common sense in what and how much you eat plus exercise. 
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: jb1842 on March 09, 2020, 10:02:36 AM
Never gone in for any of these fad diets.  Exercise and portion control have always been my thing.  Was back at my fighting weight for quite awhile, holidays put the kibosh on that.  I'm still pretty good and will probably get back there as a matter of course.

That said, whatever works.  Whatever it is, it has to be sustainable and desirable.  Otherwise you just go back to what made you fat in the first place. 

Good luck Eppy.  I hope it works for you.

One thing I really have learned that Keto is a lifestyle change for it to be effective long term. Since exercise for me is damn near impossible right now, I needed to change my eating habits. I haven't stepped on a scale in a few weeks, but I've seen body changes since I started it. One thing for me is that I think it has helped my Barretts Esophagus. I've had 1 flare up in 3 weeks, when usually I had 1-2 a week. I think that is one good benefit for me being on Keto.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Steingar on March 09, 2020, 10:04:51 AM
Since exercise for me is damn near impossible right now, I needed to change my eating habits.
The only people I've ever met for whom exercise was impossible were quadriplegics.  Otherwise most can do something, might just have to get creative about it.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: nddons on March 09, 2020, 10:05:05 AM
One thing I really have learned that Keto is a lifestyle change for it to be effective long term. Since exercise for me is damn near impossible right now, I needed to change my eating habits. I haven't stepped on a scale in a few weeks, but I've seen body changes since I started it. One thing for me is that I think it has helped my Barretts Esophagus. I've had 1 flare up in 3 weeks, when usually I had 1-2 a week. I think that is one good benefit for me being on Keto.
Same with a Paleo diet, which I’m doing. I don’t consider it something I’ll do until I lose mommy weight and then stop. I just don’t eat as much bread, grains, and other starches as I used to. Not too tough.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 09, 2020, 10:07:40 AM
I think Keto takes us back close to how we used to eat decades ago.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Steingar on March 09, 2020, 10:09:20 AM
I think Keto takes us back close to how we used to eat decades ago.
That really depends which decades you're discussing.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: jb1842 on March 09, 2020, 10:12:45 AM
The only people I've ever met for whom exercise was impossible were quadriplegics.  Otherwise most can do something, might just have to get creative about it.

Exercise to lose weight is not for me. I can't even walk 100 feet without some support due back and leg pain. I'm one of those people that back surgery was a failure and made things worse. You need to get out more if you think that people can't be disabled and can't exercise if they aren't in a wheelchair.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Steingar on March 09, 2020, 01:20:50 PM
Exercise to lose weight is not for me. I can't even walk 100 feet without some support due back and leg pain. I'm one of those people that back surgery was a failure and made things worse. You need to get out more if you think that people can't be disabled and can't exercise if they aren't in a wheelchair.
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Good point, and I apologize if I cause offense.  That said, can you swim?
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: jb1842 on March 09, 2020, 01:45:11 PM
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Good point, and I apologize if I cause offense.  That said, can you swim?

Tried it. Can get 2 lengths slowly on good day. One of the biggest problems is if I walk to much, my gait gets all wacky with nerve pain and onset numbness. Then I sit down to rest and can't stand back up. When my move to Ohio is final, I'm going to find a good Dr. at Cleveland Clinic to get a second opinion. Unless you know a good on there at Ohio State.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Steingar on March 10, 2020, 07:08:57 AM
Tried it. Can get 2 lengths slowly on good day. One of the biggest problems is if I walk to much, my gait gets all wacky with nerve pain and onset numbness. Then I sit down to rest and can't stand back up. When my move to Ohio is final, I'm going to find a good Dr. at Cleveland Clinic to get a second opinion. Unless you know a good on there at Ohio State.

Sorry, I don't have referrals for you, though I suspect you can find really good doctors in Columbus.  That said, you can find ones in Cleveland too.  I hope someone can help you.  I envy no one who has to live in pain.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Rush on March 10, 2020, 09:48:52 AM
I have problems with exercise too. I agree with the portion control, but my problem is carbs make me crave more portions. At least I have greatly improved the type carbs I eat. I don’t buy processed sweets anymore, but make homemade sweets from grass fed butter and lots of nuts with less flour, sweetened with honey or I eat yogurt.

We signed up for Blue Apron, so 3 days of the week I make dinner and they are very well balanced and healthy. They have lowish carb and diabetic and vegetarian options but no paleo, keto or gluten free. They aren’t as low carb as I’d like but they wouldn’t be able to do that at the price point they have.

The other 4 days my husband cooks and usually makes only a meat, maybe topped with mushrooms and shallots or a tomato garlic sauce.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Steingar on March 10, 2020, 01:14:37 PM
I do most of the cooking at the Steinholme.  I cook with grains, but they are all whole grains.  If we eat rice it's brown, if we eat wheat it's whole.  I make my pasta with Spelt and my breads with whole grains.  I've been doing this for years.  I make the majority of our desserts, but for dessert I don't skimp.  Go large or go home.  Do or do not, there is no try.  We do exercise strict portion control, however.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Rush on March 11, 2020, 05:10:50 AM
I do most of the cooking at the Steinholme.  I cook with grains, but they are all whole grains.  If we eat rice it's brown, if we eat wheat it's whole.  I make my pasta with Spelt and my breads with whole grains.  I've been doing this for years.  I make the majority of our desserts, but for dessert I don't skimp.  Go large or go home.  Do or do not, there is no try.  We do exercise strict portion control, however.

I love quinoa and exotic whole grain and wild rices.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Anthony on March 11, 2020, 05:19:24 AM
I love quinoa and exotic whole grain and wild rices.

Still carbs.  Still VERY high in calorie.  They may be "better" for you, but can't be relied on to help you lose weight.  Just like Olive Oil, Avocado, and other trendy "good for you" foods.  Now they are fat calories, but still. 

I eat a lot of ground turkey instead of ground beef.  I also eat more chicken than other meats.  No skin, and baked or broiled, not fried. 
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Rush on March 11, 2020, 07:44:15 AM
Still carbs.  Still VERY high in calorie.  They may be "better" for you, but can't be relied on to help you lose weight.  Just like Olive Oil, Avocado, and other trendy "good for you" foods.  Now they are fat calories, but still. 

I eat a lot of ground turkey instead of ground beef.  I also eat more chicken than other meats.  No skin, and baked or broiled, not fried.

The whole point of eating “keto” is to get into ketosis, a very normal and healthy human state where your body is burning ketones instead of glucose.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Anthony on March 11, 2020, 08:43:57 AM
The whole point of eating “keto” is to get into ketosis, a very normal and healthy human state where your body is burning ketones instead of glucose.

I was just stating general, caloric info, not related to Keto, so if you are going Keto that is a whole different story.  I've never done Keto, so don't know much about it.  I know you don't count calories like other diets and high fat and protein calories are OK, right?

A woman I was dating was Keto, and it seemed to work for her. 
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Rush on March 11, 2020, 09:43:28 AM
I was just stating general, caloric info, not related to Keto, so if you are going Keto that is a whole different story.  I've never done Keto, so don't know much about it.  I know you don't count calories like other diets and high fat and protein calories are OK, right?

A woman I was dating was Keto, and it seemed to work for her.

Oh I got you. I was just saying.  Yes more or less, but limit protein.  Too much protein is not good and you can't go insane with fat because it is calorie dense.  The trick is, you eat fat and protein without carbs or sweeteners, and it kills your hunger. It is very good at that. But it backfires if you combine it with even a little sweetness, that's what triggers the craving. Picture eating a stick of butter. How much could you consume?  Plain butter probably not more than a tablespoon or two and you'd be sick of it. Now beat a whole stick of butter with sugar, like you're going to make cake batter. Now how much could you eat?  I could eat the entire thing.

That's how you lose weight on very low or no carb. You just aren't as hungry, and fat without sweetness gets very yucky very fast.  And then there is the leveling of insulin and blood sugar. Simple carbs spikes those too much.

The times I've actually achieved ketosis I felt fantastic.  But I suffer from the deprivation syndrome. I miss my delicious carbs and I come back to them like a drug addict to heroin.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Anthony on March 11, 2020, 11:33:25 AM
Oh I got you. I was just saying.  Yes more or less, but limit protein.  Too much protein is not good and you can't go insane with fat because it is calorie dense.  The trick is, you eat fat and protein without carbs or sweeteners, and it kills your hunger. It is very good at that. But it backfires if you combine it with even a little sweetness, that's what triggers the craving. Picture eating a stick of butter. How much could you consume?  Plain butter probably not more than a tablespoon or two and you'd be sick of it. Now beat a whole stick of butter with sugar, like you're going to make cake batter. Now how much could you eat?  I could eat the entire thing.

That's how you lose weight on very low or no carb. You just aren't as hungry, and fat without sweetness gets very yucky very fast.  And then there is the leveling of insulin and blood sugar. Simple carbs spikes those too much.

The times I've actually achieved ketosis I felt fantastic.  But I suffer from the deprivation syndrome. I miss my delicious carbs and I come back to them like a drug addict to heroin.

Thanks for the explanation.  I didn't realize sweetness was a part of it, but that makes sense.  Very informative.  I don't know if I could do that.  I'm so conditioned to limiting, or at least trying to limit fat, carbs, and calories that going in the other direction with fat would seem counterintuitive to me.  But, physiologically, I get it,. 
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Steingar on March 12, 2020, 01:43:17 PM
Still carbs.  Still VERY high in calorie.  They may be "better" for you, but can't be relied on to help you lose weight.  Just like Olive Oil, Avocado, and other trendy "good for you" foods.  Now they are fat calories, but still. 
Says you.  I bet I'm a crapload closer to my college weight than you, sir.  Still too damn fat.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Anthony on March 12, 2020, 02:01:13 PM
Says you.  I bet I'm a crapload closer to my college weight than you, sir.  Still too damn fat.

I'm less than my college weight as I was a four year letter athlete in Lacrosse in college.  I had to have more muscle mass, and hence more weight back them.  After my lacrosse career, I got into long distance running and biking to stay in shape. 
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 12, 2020, 02:09:30 PM
I'm less than my college weight as I was a four year letter athlete in Lacrosse in college.  I had to have more muscle mass, and hence more weight back them.  After my lacrosse career, I got into long distance running and biking to stay in shape.

He still might be closer to his college weight than you are (just from the other direction).

or.... the alternative parsing of his bet is left as an exercise for the student.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Steingar on March 12, 2020, 06:29:56 PM
I walk 6 miles a day. Good exercise. Humans are built to walk, not run.
Title: Re: Keto Breakfast and Dinner
Post by: Anthony on March 12, 2020, 06:49:32 PM
I hunt for exercise.  I try to walk, but sometimes I have to run because the people try to get away.