Post by: nddons on April 22, 2016, 06:08:04 AM
https://medium.com/political-jargon/as-the-trump-turns-bathrooms-and-abortions-are-the-next-steps-in-his-leftist-pivot-528de38453b5#.p126ky7xn
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 22, 2016, 08:13:31 AM
But he's the only one who can beat Queen Shrillary and he can't do any worse than President MomJeans. At least he loves his country.
Post by: JeffDG on April 22, 2016, 08:14:59 AM
Trump isn't a conservative in the vein of Goldwater and Reagan. We get it.What good is it to beat Hillary if you just elect a different liberal?
But he's the only one who can beat Queen Shrillary and he can't do any worse than President MomJeans. At least he loves his country.
This also ignores the fact that Trump is double-digits behind Hillary in EVERY poll. That's an odd position for the "only one who can beat" her.
Post by: nddons on April 22, 2016, 10:40:56 AM
Trump isn't a conservative in the vein of Goldwater and Reagan. We get it.
But he's the only one who can beat Queen Shrillary and he can't do any worse than President MomJeans. At least he loves his country.
Does he? We know he loves Trump. We here that all the time. We also know that he wants to "Make America Great Again."
But since running for president, has he ever, even once, spoken about freedom, liberty, American Exceptionalism, or adherence to the Constitution? Honestly, I have never ever seen that.
Many, many people thought Obama loved his country - I mean, who would run for president if they didn't? But we have seen that he doesn't, and is endevouring to make fundamental changes to her.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 22, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
What good is it to beat Hillary if you just elect a different liberal?
This also ignores the fact that Trump is double-digits behind Hillary in EVERY poll. That's an odd position for the "only one who can beat" her.
Read my lips: CRUZ CANNOT BEAT HILLARY.
Now, who is more left, Don or Hill?
Post by: JeffDG on April 22, 2016, 11:36:03 AM
Read my lips: CRUZ CANNOT BEAT HILLARY.To be determined.
Now, who is more left, Don or Hill?
Post by: JeffDG on April 22, 2016, 11:37:40 AM
Read my lips: CRUZ CANNOT BEAT HILLARY.Read my lips: TRUMP DOES WORSE AGAINST HILLARY THAN CRUZ.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 22, 2016, 11:38:08 AM
Does he? We know he loves Trump. We here that all the time. We also know that he wants to "Make America Great Again."
But since running for president, has he ever, even once, spoken about freedom, liberty, American Exceptionalism, or adherence to the Constitution? Honestly, I have never ever seen that.
Many, many people thought Obama loved his country - I mean, who would run for president if they didn't? But we have seen that he doesn't, and is endevouring to make fundamental changes to her.
Anyone who was paying attention knew that Obama hates the idea of America. All you ha to do is read his books and see who he associated himself with. Trump is obviously for the Pursuit of Happiness.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 22, 2016, 11:38:53 AM
Read my lips: TRUMP DOES WORSE AGAINST HILLARY THAN CRUZ.
Let's see some of these polls.
Post by: JeffDG on April 22, 2016, 11:41:01 AM
Let's see some of these polls.http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html)
Cruz's worst (Clinton +5) is better than Trump's best (Clinton +7)
(http://www.pilotspin.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=759.0;attach=134)
Post by: Number7 on April 22, 2016, 12:08:57 PM
Read my lips: TRUMP DOES WORSE AGAINST HILLARY THAN CRUZ.
The lies people tell themselves to continue to love Donald Trump always surprise me.
I don't know why, but they always do.
Post by: nddons on April 22, 2016, 12:36:56 PM
Read my lips: CRUZ CANNOT BEAT HILLARY.What, exactly, demonstrates that Trump can beat Hillary? Because "he" says so?
Now, who is more left, Don or Hill?
Post by: alexgeo on April 22, 2016, 01:13:52 PM
Post by: pilot_dude on April 22, 2016, 02:15:32 PM
Read my lips: TRUMP DOES WORSE AGAINST HILLARY THAN CRUZ.A loser is still a loser regardless of the score.
Post by: Anthony on April 22, 2016, 02:32:23 PM
Anyone who was paying attention knew that Obama hates the idea of America. All you ha to do is read his books and see who he associated himself with. Trump is obviously for the Pursuit of Happiness.
I know Obama hated America prior to his first election. It was obvious with what he said, and who he associated with.
Post by: Little Joe on April 22, 2016, 02:33:26 PM
A loser is still a loser regardless of the score.But it's funny when people completely dismiss poll results, especially long range ones, unless it fits their agenda.
I don't think any poll that says this candidate or that candidate will beat another candidate eight months in advance has much chance of being accurate, except for the situation of randomness and luck.
Post by: Lucifer on April 22, 2016, 02:55:06 PM
I'm not a die hard Trump supporter in any way...but YouOnlyLiveTwice is probably right. Nobody in their right mind will vote for Cruz if it comes to a match up between $hillary and Ted. He's too much of a bible thumper to win. He seems to forget that we live in 2016...people no longer care about Christian fundamental values. Sorry.
Religious Zealot+Far Right Ideologue= unelectable.
Post by: Lucifer on April 22, 2016, 02:56:50 PM
But it's funny when people completely dismiss poll results, especially long range ones, unless it fits their agenda.
I don't think any poll that says this candidate or that candidate will beat another candidate eight months in advance has much chance of being accurate, except for the situation of randomness and luck.
Statistics and history bear out that long range polls are highly inaccurate.
Post by: JeffDG on April 22, 2016, 03:55:39 PM
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/277244-gop-officials-tell-of-death-threats-from-trump-supporters
Quote
After the presidential front-runner was shut out of receiving any delegates in Colorado at the state’s convention two weeks ago, Steve House, the Colorado GOP chairman, said he was receiving thousands of threatening phone calls.
Post by: nddons on April 22, 2016, 05:21:43 PM
Religious Zealot+Far Right Ideologue= unelectable.The picture of the average Trump voter is becoming clearer every day.
Post by: Anthony on April 22, 2016, 05:59:25 PM
The picture of the average Trump voter is becoming clearer every day.
I thought he was talking about Cruz.
Post by: FastEddieB on April 22, 2016, 06:12:18 PM
Statistics and history bear out that long range polls are highly inaccurate.
Well, statistically speaking maybe. 8)
Post by: Lucifer on April 22, 2016, 06:16:01 PM
I thought he was talking about Cruz.
I was. The Cruz supporters can't face the fact their guys campaign is in its death throws. Cruz has lost and is losing with voters, the facts that he is currently 2.5 million votes behind and 300+ delegates behind with no path to the nomination except for a hope of a contested election, and even then it's a long shot.
Fox News had interesting polling tonight. Indiana is going Trump and California Trump is up to 49%. Trump will win CT, MD, PA and DE.
Cruz is at a point of destroying any future political career if he continues. Right now he is no more than a spoiler, and a very sore loser at best. He should gracefully bow out and support the nominee and come back another day. He's still relatively young and could learn from his mistakes and in the future have a shot at it.
Just my opinion.
Post by: nddons on April 22, 2016, 07:08:24 PM
I thought he was talking about Cruz.
He was. The average Trump supporter is congealing as a fair-weather or part-time conservative (at best), populist, big government, anti-Constitution, Northeast liberal tendencies, unexceptional American.
Angry? Yes. Conservative? Not on your life.
Post by: Mase on April 22, 2016, 07:21:40 PM
He was. The average Trump supporter is congealing as a fair-weather or part-time conservative (at best), populist, big government, anti-Constitution, Northeast liberal tendencies, unexceptional American.
Angry? Yes. Conservative? Not on your life.
I do not think that is an accurate characterization of Trump supporters at all.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on April 22, 2016, 07:39:27 PM
He was. The average Trump supporter is congealing as a fair-weather or part-time conservative (at best), populist, big government, anti-Constitution, Northeast liberal tendencies, unexceptional American.
Angry? Yes. Conservative? Not on your life.
Apparently I'm above average.
Post by: nddons on April 22, 2016, 09:48:47 PM
I do not think that is an accurate characterization of Trump supporters at all.
It's just my opinion. Take it or leave it.
Post by: nddons on April 22, 2016, 09:49:19 PM
Apparently I'm above average.I have no doubt.
Post by: Number7 on April 23, 2016, 08:41:05 AM
I do not think that is an accurate characterization of Trump supporters at all.
The vast majority of hard line, Donald Trump supporters, that I have met, talked to, or happen to know, appear to be every bit as desperate to make him into whatever they want him to be as the typical Bernie Sanders supporter.
Short on facts, but big on unrealistic expectations, is how I describe more Trump fans that I have come into contact with.
Post by: JeffDG on April 23, 2016, 08:57:41 AM
The vast majority of hard line, Donald Trump supporters, that I have met, talked to, or happen to know, appear to be every bit as desperate to make him into whatever they want him to be as the typical Bernie Sanders supporter.The same "blank canvas" as Obama ran as.
Post by: Lucifer on April 23, 2016, 09:08:24 AM
The vast majority of hard line, Donald Trump supporters, that I have met, talked to, or happen to know, appear to be every bit as desperate to make him into whatever they want him to be as the typical Bernie Sanders supporter.
Short on facts, but big on unrealistic expectations, is how I describe more Trump fans that I have come into contact with.
Funny thing about the above statement is it could be made about Cruz, or any other candidate.
Post by: Number7 on April 23, 2016, 09:21:18 AM
Funny thing about the above statement is it could be made about Cruz, or any other candidate.
I have not found to be true of any real Cruz supporters I have met. They all seem to respect his refusing to cave in to the progressive arm of the GOP, and serve at the pleasure of the establishment, all of which is true.
He also happens to have a detailed economic plan, that he shared in interviews, but was ignored in favor of whining about his faith.
Post by: nddons on April 24, 2016, 06:04:42 AM
The same "blank canvas" as Obama ran as.The same blank canvas as long as you don't peak under his kimono.
Obama had a radical past, associated with radicals, and had an unremarkable legislative career topped off by his staunch opposition to the Illinois version of the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act.
The media was unwilling to take a peak, or address any of these issues once they were known.
The media had not taken a look under Trump's kimono either, or address any of these issues once they were known.
They difference is, all of this will be put out once his opposition is Hillary. He will be eviscerated.
Post by: Lucifer on April 24, 2016, 06:38:46 AM
The same blank canvas as long as you don't peak under his kimono.
Obama had a radical past, associated with radicals, and had an unremarkable legislative career topped off by his staunch opposition to the Illinois version of the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act.
The media was unwilling to take a peak, or address any of these issues once they were known.
The media had not taken a look under Trump's kimono either, or address any of these issues once they were known.
They difference is, all of this will be put out once his opposition is Hillary. He will be eviscerated.
Maybe the media where you live doesn't bother, but what I've been reading and watching the media has made an all out assault on Trump and it's been on going for months. Every detail of his life from childhood, everything he has wrote, interviews from 30+ years ago, interviewing ex wives, ex workers, anyone who will say something negative, etc. Couple that with the millions of dollars in negative ads against him running 24/7. They even tried to blame him for the missed registration on one of his airplanes. I'm sure right now they are looking into every auto owned by a Trump company to make sure it's properly registered.
Post by: Little Joe on April 24, 2016, 07:11:42 AM
The same blank canvas as long as you don't peak under his kimono.Sorry Stan, but that is BS
Obama had a radical past, associated with radicals, and had an unremarkable legislative career topped off by his staunch opposition to the Illinois version of the Born-Alive Infant Protection Act.
The media was unwilling to take a peak, or address any of these issues once they were known.
The media had not taken a look under Trump's kimono either, or address any of these issues once they were known.
They difference is, all of this will be put out once his opposition is Hillary. He will be eviscerated.
The press has been hyping, amplifying and re-repeating every negative thing they can find aboutTrump.
Post by: nddons on April 24, 2016, 07:42:55 AM
Sorry Stan, but that is BSIf you think that's true, you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until the Clinton machine and media cabal join forces after the GOP Convention.
The press has been hyping, amplifying and re-repeating every negative thing they can find aboutTrump.
Just look at how the media treated Romney during the primary and then during he general. It was night and day.
Post by: Little Joe on April 24, 2016, 08:06:56 AM
If you think that's true, you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until the Clinton machine and media cabal join forces after the GOP Convention.Agreed that it will get worse if Trump makes it to the general election, as it will for Cruz.
Just look at how the media treated Romney during the primary and then during he general. It was night and day.
But you said the press has left him alone up till now. That just ain't true. Just yesterday I read again how he was such a bad landlord in 1980 when he tried to convince people living in a building he owned to move. He made generous offers to get them to leave his rent-controlled building.
So tell me why the government should be able to tell landlords how much rent they can charge? Are you ok with that?
Post by: nddons on April 24, 2016, 08:41:30 AM
Agreed that it will get worse if Trump makes it to the general election, as it will for Cruz.What? Why in the hell are you asking me that?
But you said the press has left him alone up till now. That just ain't true. Just yesterday I read again how he was such a bad landlord in 1980 when he tried to convince people living in a building he owned to move. He made generous offers to get them to leave his rent-controlled building.
So tell me why the government should be able to tell landlords how much rent they can charge? Are you ok with that?
Post by: Lucifer on April 24, 2016, 09:30:24 AM
If you think that's true, you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait until the Clinton machine and media cabal, as well as the GOP establishment join forces after the GOP Convention.
Just look at how the media treated Romney during the primary and then during he general. It was night and day.
FTFY
Post by: Little Joe on April 24, 2016, 09:31:30 AM
What? Why in the hell are you asking me that?Because you seem to have bought into the demonization of everything Trump, even though you deny (or don't realize) that has happened, so I thought you would want to defend rent control since Trump opposed it. It is jut like all those times when people start a thread with "in other words" then continue to completely misconstrue the meaning of someone else's words.
I know you don't defend rent control. So a better question would have been whether you supported Trumps attempts to end it in his buildings so he could tear them down and rebuild them.
Post by: nddons on April 24, 2016, 11:04:11 AM
FTFYBoy, you're clever.
Post by: Lucifer on April 24, 2016, 11:05:08 AM
Boy, you're clever.
Thanks.
The truth hurts.
Post by: nddons on April 24, 2016, 12:17:42 PM
Because you seem to have bought into the demonization of everything Trump, even though you deny (or don't realize) that has happened, so I thought you would want to defend rent control since Trump opposed it. It is jut like all those times when people start a thread with "in other words" then continue to completely misconstrue the meaning of someone else's words.
I know you don't defend rent control. So a better question would have been whether you supported Trumps attempts to end it in his buildings so he could tear them down and rebuild them.
That's idiotic.
I've been a conservative for my entire life. I don't need to have "bought into the demonization of everything Trump." I know conservatism, and conservatives, and with my eyes, ears, and experience, he ain't one. I also know when I see posers, and that is exactly what Trump is. If you were fair I think you would see it that way as well. Trump is a Trojan Horse.
As for rent control, please don't tell me that Trump was against rent control for conservative reasons. Is that what you intended to imply? Trump has told us, time and time and time again, that he's a businessman, and that he does whatever benefits Trump, even if it compromises or abandons what most of us would call "principles."
Post by: Number7 on April 25, 2016, 07:15:39 AM
The truth is true. Donald Trump is a mess. His policies, if you can call them policies, border on Hilary Clinton's for clown content, and his raging bull tactics are far more at home at a WWF match than a primary race.
The fodder he has given the media to use to kill him once he is crowned the nominee need no help. Even FOX can't wait to destroy him, because Murdoch is a Clinton crony.
That the Trump fans can't see beyond his rhetoric is a grave concern because they ill all want someone to blame once his candidacy sinks the ship in November and Hilary appoints USSC Justices who rewind the First and Second Amendments in favor of fascism.
The end of America is in sight and a Donald Trump nomination will push us into the express lane, because progressives have no check valve. They are happier destroying the economy out of pure jealousy of people who succeed. The progressive left revel in taking things from those who rightfully own them, just to give them away out of spite. I've never seen a political movement so selfish as the modern progressives.
Donal Trump will usher a new era of boot-on-the-throat government that will make the current regulation environment seem like anarchy, because he won't win, and will be the rallying cry that brings out the disaffected Bernie Sanders snowflakes, who would have stayed home because they don't care to vote to for Hilary Clinton, but will be told that their safe space in mom's basement will be threatened if Trump is elected, and they will believe it because they were raised by the state to fall for the stupidest lies possible.
Post by: nddons on April 25, 2016, 07:54:51 AM
For the Trump brigade everything that doesn't support Donal Trump has become a a personal insult.Exactly.
The truth is true. Donald Trump is a mess. His policies, if you can call them policies, border on Hilary Clinton's for clown content, and his raging bull tactics are far more at home at a WWF match than a primary race.
The fodder he has given the media to use to kill him once he is crowned the nominee need no help. Even FOX can't wait to destroy him, because Murdoch is a Clinton crony.
That the Trump fans can't see beyond his rhetoric is a grave concern because they ill all want someone to blame once his candidacy sinks the ship in November and Hilary appoints USSC Justices who rewind the First and Second Amendments in favor of fascism.
The end of America is in sight and a Donald Trump nomination will push us into the express lane, because progressives have no check valve. They are happier destroying the economy out of pure jealousy of people who succeed. The progressive left revel in taking things from those who rightfully own them, just to give them away out of spite. I've never seen a political movement so selfish as the modern progressives.
Donal Trump will usher a new era of boot-on-the-throat government that will make the current regulation environment seem like anarchy, because he won't win, and will be the rallying cry that brings out the disaffected Bernie Sanders snowflakes, who would have stayed home because they don't care to vote to for Hilary Clinton, but will be told that their safe space in mom's basement will be threatened if Trump is elected, and they will believe it because they were raised by the state to fall for the stupidest lies possible.
With respect to Trump supporters, this is a phenomenon that is not often seen in politics. Ron Paul supporters come to mind, or even Ross Perot supporters, but I've never quite seen the number of people willing to lay down on the tracks to silence criticism of "The Donald."
WaPo has an article on point:
"That is considerably less so when it comes to Trump, however. The billionaire has said things no politician would say about about his fidelity and repeatedly betrayed his lack of understanding on subjects ranging from federal spending to the nuclear triad. This is all well-documented. But his supporters are unfazed by the same kind of media coverage that dooms other candidates. There must be something about why Trump lovers mistrust the media that makes them react to negative reports differently than voters typically do.
"Here's a theory: Trump backers feel personally offended by coverage that suggests they must be stupid to support him. Insulted, they refuse to accept information presented by media outlets that disrespect them."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/24/the-nasty-effect-and-why-donald-trump-supporters-mistrust-the-media/
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 08:12:04 AM
For the Trump brigade everything that doesn't support Donal Trump has become a a personal insult.
The truth is true. Donald Trump is a mess. His policies, if you can call them policies, border on Hilary Clinton's for clown content, and his raging bull tactics are far more at home at a WWF match than a primary race.
The fodder he has given the media to use to kill him once he is crowned the nominee need no help. Even FOX can't wait to destroy him, because Murdoch is a Clinton crony.
That the Trump fans can't see beyond his rhetoric is a grave concern because they ill all want someone to blame once his candidacy sinks the ship in November and Hilary appoints USSC Justices who rewind the First and Second Amendments in favor of fascism.
The end of America is in sight and a Donald Trump nomination will push us into the express lane, because progressives have no check valve. They are happier destroying the economy out of pure jealousy of people who succeed. The progressive left revel in taking things from those who rightfully own them, just to give them away out of spite. I've never seen a political movement so selfish as the modern progressives.
Donal Trump will usher a new era of boot-on-the-throat government that will make the current regulation environment seem like anarchy, because he won't win, and will be the rallying cry that brings out the disaffected Bernie Sanders snowflakes, who would have stayed home because they don't care to vote to for Hilary Clinton, but will be told that their safe space in mom's basement will be threatened if Trump is elected, and they will believe it because they were raised by the state to fall for the stupidest lies possible.
You missed the part about flying monkeys swooping down and stealing small children, and daily human sacrificial rituals.
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 25, 2016, 08:28:51 AM
The latest is quite interesting as Cruz and Kasich have created an alliance to stop Trump. Which one has decide to settle for the VP slot, Cruz or Kasich. I'll bet one of them plans to screw the other at the convention. Should be fun to watch. It could end up backfiring on them.
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 25, 2016, 09:12:06 AM
It still amazes me that folks don't understand Trump's draw. He appeals to the masses that politicians today have abandoned. Today's politicians only cater to the rich, that can fund them, and the poor, whom they can buy votes from. All of those in between are not even considered in the whole plan.
You are forgetting the morons that support the DNC. The DNC plays to the ignorance of rich, poor, and middleclass.
Post by: JeffDG on April 25, 2016, 10:25:10 AM
You are forgetting the morons that support the DNC.You mean like Donald J. Trump?
He has supported the DNC with significant cash contributions.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 12:12:22 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/25/exclusive-data-analysis-donald-trump-2016-wins-2-million-votes-mitt-romney-2012-states-voting-far/
Post by: nddons on April 25, 2016, 12:19:30 PM
It still amazes me that folks don't understand Trump's draw. He appeals to the masses that politicians today have abandoned. Today's politicians only cater to the rich, that can fund them, and the poor, whom they can buy votes from. All of those in between are not even considered in the whole plan.At the beginning of his campaign (last summer) I understood the anger. I get it. But his schtick got old, fast.
The latest is quite interesting as Cruz and Kasich have created an alliance to stop Trump. Which one has decide to settle for the VP slot, Cruz or Kasich. I'll bet one of them plans to screw the other at the convention. Should be fun to watch. It could end up backfiring on them.
It quickly became apparent to me that he was a bullshit artist, selling me bullshit. My bullshit meter went off the charts who he said in Iowa "I'm Presbyterian. Can you believe it? I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian!"
So I started to research what he stands for. And that's when the wheels came off the "benefit-of-the-doubt" wagon.
He stands for nothing. Well, I take that back. He stands for Trump. He stands for nothing that would resemble conservative thought.
And that's why I'm fighting him with everything I've got. He's trying to take the GOP nomination when he stands for virtually nothing in its platform. And he will take down the Senate and possibly the House in the process. And when he loses the General election, what will he do? He'll go back to celebrity apprentice, beauty pageants, and other things enhanced by his increased "brand" brought about by people like you who buy into it.
What amazes me is people, including people here, who don't see that they are being bullshitted by a reality TV star.
Post by: Mr Pou on April 25, 2016, 12:27:59 PM
What amazes me is people, including people here, who don't see that they are being bullshitted by a reality TV star.
The public is being sold a pig in a poke.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 12:31:50 PM
But his schtick got old, fast.
But the "schtick" of a pursed lipped bible thumper doesn't get old?
It quickly became apparent to me that he was a bullshit artist, selling me bullshit.
Same with an Ivy League trained lawyer who is backed by Wall Street trying to convince me he's an "outsider" that's going to fix Washington.
So I started to research what he stands for. And that's when the wheels came off the "benefit-of-the-doubt" wagon.
Same with UnTrusTed. Just research the guy and it becomes evident where he is coming from, and it's not what the persona wants you to believe.
And he will take down the Senate and possibly the House in the process.
More GOP fear mongering. Trying to say Trump will cause down stream losses is pure bovine scatology. Those that are in danger of losing their congressional/senate seat are doing so by their own ineptitude.
This crap of "protecting" congressional/senate seats with the same old career politicians in place is why we have a fucked up congress and senate, and further goes to show why we desperately need term limits on these guys.
What amazes me is people, including people here, who don't see that they are being bullshitted by a reality TV star.
Versus being bullshitted by a career politician Ivy League Wall Street backed Lawyer? :o
Post by: nddons on April 25, 2016, 12:37:36 PM
Of course everyone realizes all those votes only come from angry white men:Not one mention about any analysis of democrat crossover votes in open primary states from Trumpbart. Why is that? Surely Andrew Breitbart would have run that ground ball out, don't you think?
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/04/25/exclusive-data-analysis-donald-trump-2016-wins-2-million-votes-mitt-romney-2012-states-voting-far/
Every analysis points to Trump, with his record setting negatives, turning red states purple or blue in November.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Not one mention about any analysis of democrat crossover votes in open primary states from Trumpbart. Why is that? Surely Andrew Breitbart would have run that ground ball out, don't you think?
Ah yes, the big evil democrat conspiracy plan.
Every analysis points to Trump, with his record setting negatives, turning red states purple or blue in November.
Yep, we are all aware that polling/predictions based upon theoretical match ups 6 plus months away have a high degree of inaccuracy, but let's not let history or facts get in the way.
Let's continue to believe that a career politician lawyer that has negatives only 10 points lower than Trump and who has ran a losing primary campaign is who the voters really want in November. ::)
Post by: Florida Cracker on April 25, 2016, 12:50:36 PM
But the "schtick" of a pursed lipped bible thumper doesn't get old?
Same with an Ivy League trained lawyer who is backed by Wall Street trying to convince me he's an "outsider" that's going to fix Washington.
Same with UnTrusTed. Just research the guy and it becomes evident where he is coming from, and it's not what the persona wants you to believe.
More GOP fear mongering. Trying to say Trump will cause down stream losses is pure bovine scatology. Those that are in danger of losing their congressional/senate seat are doing so by their own ineptitude.
This crap of "protecting" congressional/senate seats with the same old career politicians in place is why we have a fucked up congress and senate, and further goes to show why we desperately need term limits on these guys.
Versus being bullshitted by a career politician Ivy League Wall Street backed Lawyer? :o
Every Single Word of your post is an attack against someone, instead of a reasoned defense that would/could/might help convince others to look at your chosen savior with a fresh eye.
Sorry, but your shtick is even older.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
Every Single Word of your post is an attack against someone, instead of a reasoned defense that would/could/might help convince others to look at your chosen savior with a fresh eye.
Sorry, but your shtick is even older.
It's what you want it to be, wrong or right. And face it, no matter what I would write, in your eyes and a couple others it would be wrong, no matter what.
Every Single Word of your post is an attack against someone, instead of a reasoned defense that would/could/might help convince others to look at your chosen savior with a fresh eye.
Pot, meet kettle.
Post by: Florida Cracker on April 25, 2016, 12:59:11 PM
It's what you want it to be, wrong or right. And face it, no matter what I would right, in your eyes and a couple others it would be wrong, no matter what.
Pot, meet kettle.
You do have issues.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 01:02:18 PM
You do have issues.
Again, please go look in the mirror.
Sad that the best you can do is offer personal attacks against anyone who disagrees with you. In my post I offer a different viewpoint, something you just can't accept.
Post by: Florida Cracker on April 25, 2016, 01:04:27 PM
Again, please go look in the mirror.
Sad that the best you can do is offer personal attacks against anyone who disagrees with you. In my post I offer a different viewpoint, something you just can't accept.
Someday you will have to sit down with me and explain where all this hostility and blind judgmental-ism (is that a real word?) comes from.
Your concept of a different view point and mine are very different, but you keep playing and I'll ignore all but the really idiotic babbling from you.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 01:11:27 PM
Someday you will have to sit down with me and explain where all this hostility and blind judgmental-ism (is that a real word?) comes from.
Your concept of a different view point and mine are very different, but you keep playing and I'll ignore all but the really idiotic babbling from you.
So we should learn from you, when posting a losing argument resort to name calling when nothing else works.
Got it. ::)
Post by: nddons on April 25, 2016, 01:20:00 PM
Ah yes, the big evil democrat conspiracy plan.Wow. How's the view with your head in the sand?
Yep, we are all aware that polling/predictions based upon theoretical match ups 6 plus months away have a high degree of inaccuracy, but let's not let history or facts get in the way.
Let's continue to believe that a career politician lawyer that has negatives only 10 points lower than Trump and who has ran a losing primary campaign is who the voters really want in November. ::)
It's actually a very easy analysis to show whether Trump or Cruz won open vs closed primaries. So why didn't Trumpbart do it?
The Washington Post did it in a March 2 article, and found that Trump won open primaries, while Cruz won closed primaries.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/03/02/so-far-trump-wins-open-primaries-and-cruz-wins-closed-and-the-calendar-is-starting-to-change-toward-more-closed-primaries/
Based on the polling, there is every indication that democrats would prefer to run against Trump vs Cruz. Is it inconceivable to Trump followers that democrats would want to influence the GOP nominating process if they have a chance?
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 01:24:29 PM
Wow. How's the view with your head in the sand?
It's actually a very easy analysis to show whether Trump or Cruz won open vs closed primaries. So why didn't Trumpbart do it?
The Washington Post did it in a March 2 article, and found that Trump won open primaries, while Cruz won closed primaries.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/03/02/so-far-trump-wins-open-primaries-and-cruz-wins-closed-and-the-calendar-is-starting-to-change-toward-more-closed-primaries/
Based on the polling, there is every indication that democrats would prefer to run against Trump vs Cruz. Is it inconceivable to Trump followers that democrats would want to influence the GOP nominating process if they have a chance?
Again, more fear mongering as a final attempt to derail Trump.
Yes, Trump does well in open primaries due to the independents and the moderate democrats voting for him because they don't like Hillary/Bernie. This is the same thing that happened in 1980 when Reagan won over moderate democrats (Reagan Democrats) and Independents.
Post by: Number7 on April 25, 2016, 01:26:56 PM
So we should learn from you, when posting a losing argument resort to name calling when nothing else works.
Got it. ::)
You are not very good at this.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 01:28:32 PM
You are not very good at this.
Neither are you apparently.
Post by: Number7 on April 25, 2016, 01:29:35 PM
Neither are you apparently.
I am very sorry for your loss of a good point and a clue. Please keep posting utter nonsense. We all need a good laugh and you never fail to provide it.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 01:31:26 PM
I am very sorry for your loss of a good point and a clue. Please keep posting utter nonsense. We all need a good laugh and you never fail to provide it.
Same here, it's fun watching you make a fool of yourself.
Please continue.
Post by: asechrest on April 25, 2016, 01:40:08 PM
Woops! Someone seems to have been logged into the wrong account when replying. ;)
Post by: nddons on April 25, 2016, 01:44:28 PM
Again, more fear mongering as a final attempt to derail Trump.You're correlating primary crossover with general election crossover? Delusional.
Yes, Trump does well in open primaries due to the independents and the moderate democrats voting for him because they don't like Hillary/Bernie. This is the same thing that happened in 1980 when Reagan won over moderate democrats (Reagan Democrats) and Independents.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 01:46:47 PM
You're correlating primary crossover with general election crossover? Delusional.
No, factual history. Try doing some research, it's all there.
Post by: JeffDG on April 25, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
Sad that the best you can do is offer personal attacks against anyone who disagrees with you. In my post I offer a different viewpoint, something you just can't accept.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Self-awareness epic fail!
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on April 25, 2016, 02:30:33 PM
At the beginning of his campaign (last summer) I understood the anger. I get it. But his schtick got old, fast.
It quickly became apparent to me that he was a bullshit artist, selling me bullshit. My bullshit meter went off the charts who he said in Iowa "I'm Presbyterian. Can you believe it? I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian. I'm Presbyterian!"
So I started to research what he stands for. And that's when the wheels came off the "benefit-of-the-doubt" wagon.
He stands for nothing. Well, I take that back. He stands for Trump. He stands for nothing that would resemble conservative thought.
And that's why I'm fighting him with everything I've got. He's trying to take the GOP nomination when he stands for virtually nothing in its platform. And he will take down the Senate and possibly the House in the process. And when he loses the General election, what will he do? He'll go back to celebrity apprentice, beauty pageants, and other things enhanced by his increased "brand" brought about by people like you who buy into it.
What amazes me is people, including people here, who don't see that they are being bullshitted by a reality TV star.
Stan, tell me what Trump stands to gain from being elected President? What does he need that he does not currently have? Is it not possible, in your mind, that he loves this country and does not like where it is headed and feels that he could change things?
He's watched, over the last 15 years now, the country decline and head further into debt year after year with no one caring to do anything about it.
Post by: nddons on April 25, 2016, 02:31:16 PM
No, factual history. Try doing some research, it's all there.No, it's not.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 02:35:42 PM
No, it's not.
Ok, just continue on, ok?
The RNC will have new talking points by Weds, and I'm sure the fear mongering will ramp up even more. Get back to us with those, ok?
Post by: FastEddieB on April 25, 2016, 02:50:18 PM
Yes, Trump does well in open primaries due to the independents and the moderate democrats voting for him because they don't like Hillary/Bernie.
Or they wanted Trump to get the nomination, so they could cruise into victory in November.
I'll bet that was the reasoning of a not-insignificant number of primary voters.
Post by: nddons on April 25, 2016, 02:53:17 PM
Stan, tell me what Trump stands to gain from being elected President? What does he need that he does not currently have? Is it not possible, in your mind, that he loves this country and does not like where it is headed and feels that he could change things?Good question. While anyone needs to be an egomaniac to run for President, Trump is off the charts IMO, and will make Barry look like a milquetoast wallflower in comparison.
He's watched, over the last 15 years now, the country decline and head further into debt year after year with no one caring to do anything about it.
There are plenty of people who will spend millions to secure a $200,000 job. Trump will (allegedly) spend hundreds of millions for a $400,000 job.
I don't think it's altruism that makes him want to do this. I think it's a calculated decision to further his brand, and that's why at the beginning I believed (and still do) that he doesn't really want the presidency, but he wants the recognition and worshipping that he would get for being a candidate. I think he surprised himself by being in the lead, and doesn't know how to act like someone in the lead.
I also think that should he lose in the general, he would be quite happy to go back to Trump Tower and his empire, satisfied in knowing that his brand has been advanced, and that some people wanted him to be president.
Post by: nddons on April 25, 2016, 02:54:32 PM
Or they wanted Trump to get the nomination, so they could cruise into victory in November.Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner!
I'll bet that was the reasoning of a not-insignificant number of primary voters.
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 03:02:55 PM
Or they wanted Trump to get the nomination, so they could cruise into victory in November.
I'll bet that was the reasoning of a not-insignificant number of primary voters.
Ding ding ding ding. We have a winner!
More fear mongering. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Post by: FastEddieB on April 25, 2016, 03:17:32 PM
More fear mongering.
Sorry. Don't see how that my view can in any way be seen as promoting - or mongering - fear*.
If GA had an open primary, I might have voted for Bernie. And not because I wanted him as president, just because I wanted him as the Democratic nominee.
I can't be the only one thinking along those lines.
*Though I do, in fact, fear a Trump presidency. But that's not relevant to my observation. People DO cross party lines in primaries for all sorts of reasons - selecting a more easily defeatable foe is definitely one.
Post by: Number7 on April 25, 2016, 04:33:02 PM
Sorry. Don't see how that my view can in any way be seen as promoting - or mongering - fear*.
If GA had an open primary, I might have voted for Bernie. And not because I wanted him as president, just because I wanted him as the Democratic nominee.
I can't be the only one thinking along those lines.
*Though I do, in fact, fear a Trump presidency. But that's not relevant to my observation. People DO cross party lines in primaries for all sorts of reasons - selecting a more easily defeatable foe is definitely one.
There seem to be a small but still legitimate number of democrats that can't stomach either of their party candidates and who seem to want to vote for Trump to make some sort of statement to their party heads. There are also many crossover voters who seemed happy to vote Trump to set up a classic win for their nominee.
Post by: Little Joe on April 25, 2016, 05:06:45 PM
Post by: Lucifer on April 25, 2016, 05:14:47 PM
. There are also many crossover voters who seemed happy to vote Trump to set up a classic win for their nominee.
Care to provide any factual evidence of this?
Post by: JeffDG on April 25, 2016, 06:30:52 PM
Care to provide any factual evidence of this?That's rich from the "Only Trump can beat Hillary" guy!
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on April 26, 2016, 04:59:19 AM
Care to provide any factual evidence of this?
No evidence at all.... if you want to ignore the relatively low voter turnout in democrat primaries and relatively high turnout in republican primaries....
Post by: Little Joe on April 26, 2016, 11:46:35 AM
http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/news/politics/4016904-more-60000-disgruntled-pennsylvania-democrats-switch-parties
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More than 60,000 disgruntled Pennsylvania Democrats switch parties
A retired middle school principal was so moved by Donald Trump that he switched his Democratic Party registration so he can vote for him in Tuesday’s Republican presidential primary.
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So did the daughter of a steelworker, who twice voted for President Barack Obama but says she is “over” the Democrats’ political correctness.
And a husband-wife team of Trump volunteers — she’s a laid-off airport worker, he’s a laid-off truck driver — were Democrats for 30 years, until recently.
“We always voted Democrat,” said Laurie McGinnis, as her husband Ricky hung a Trump banner outside their South Greensburg home. “But not any more.”
Some of these newly minted Pennsylvania Republicans are formalizing a process that began with Ronald Reagan’s election in 1980, when conservative-leaning Democrats began shifting away from the party in the faded industrial state.
Others moved abruptly, inspired by Trump and fed up with a party they say no longer speaks their language.
Together the result is one of the most sizable shifts of partisan allegiance ever in Pennsylvania: 61,500 Democrats have become Republicans so far this year, part of a 145,000 jump in Republican registrations since the fall 2015 election, according to state figures analyzed by both parties. It’s more new Republicans than in the previous four years combined.
Trump is getting a lot of Democrats to switch over. Of course, the "anti-Trumpkins" are going to say they are only voting to get Trump nominated so they can vote against him.
Perhaps some of that is going on.
But how much? I believe there are more Democrats voting for Trump because they have realized that the traditional Democrats have screwed us up and that Trump can actually restore some common sense. That is why I think Trump can beat Hillary.
There is no way in Hell that Cruz would beat Hillary. (That is my opinion based on personal observations). I don't know a single Democrat that would even consider Cruz, but most of them are actually considering Trump.
In spite of the polls, I can see a Trump landslide, including strengthening the down-stream vote. Unless the Anti-Trumpkins can sabotage it sufficiently to hand the election to Hillary and the Ds.
Post by: Little Joe on April 26, 2016, 11:49:01 AM
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Pennsylvania's wild card delegates could make or break Donald Trump
http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/26/politics/pennsylvania-delegates-trump-kasich-cruz/
Call it whining if you want to, but Trump is right: The system is stupid!!
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Leading most Pennsylvania polls by double-digits, the billionaire is a near lock to carry the 17 delegates awarded to the winner of the statewide vote. But the process is more complicated for the remaining 54. That's because they are essentially elected on the honor system.
Voters first select their preferred candidate -- that's the state-wide vote. Then, voters in each of the 18 congressional districts pick three delegates for the convention. Many of those delegates have have pledged their support to Trump, Ted Cruz or John Kasich, but the catch is that they are technically unbound and beholden to nobody -- not the voters, candidates or Republican Party.
Post by: JeffDG on May 05, 2016, 10:17:21 AM
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Donald Trump said on Wednesday he is open to raising the minimum wage, despite previous statements opposing such a change.
When asked by CNN if he would consider raising the minimum wage, Trump said he was “looking at that” and “open to doing something with it.”
Post by: Anthony on May 05, 2016, 10:19:57 AM
Post by: acrogimp on May 05, 2016, 10:33:07 AM
Trump is pandering to the Free Sh*t Army, that's all. He knows the economic ramifications to business and employment, so doubt he would move for such a thing.Or, he realizes it actually only effects ~2% of the working population and that by saying he is open to doing 'something' he can buy points with the General Election electorate who believe, incorrectly, that it will change things for millions of workers.
Just a possible alternative explanation.
'Gimp
Post by: JeffDG on May 05, 2016, 11:25:52 AM
Trump is pandering to the Free Sh*t Army, that's all. He knows the economic ramifications to business and employment, so doubt he would move for such a thing.What, exactly, makes you think that he wasn't pandering to conservatives before, and is now returning to what he now believes?
Post by: Anthony on May 05, 2016, 11:35:36 AM
What, exactly, makes you think that he wasn't pandering to conservatives before, and is now returning to what he now believes?
That is my greatest fear. I am voting against Hillary, nor for Trump. Hillary's fascism is guaranteed. Trumps is just speculative.
Post by: JeffDG on May 05, 2016, 11:50:01 AM
That is my greatest fear. I am voting against Hillary, nor for Trump. Hillary's fascism is guaranteed. Trumps is just speculative.Well...let's recap.
He's flipped on min wage, he's now in bed with insiders like McConnell, Boehner, now Rove (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278888-rove-trump-wins-if-he-tones-it-down) is in his camp. Yep, good thing that all the Trumpkins disavowed the "establishment" that Trump help build and pay for!
Post by: Anthony on May 05, 2016, 11:51:42 AM
Well...let's recap.
He's flipped on min wage, he's now in bed with insiders like McConnell, Boehner, now Rove (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278888-rove-trump-wins-if-he-tones-it-down) is in his camp. Yep, good thing that all the Trumpkins disavowed the "establishment" that Trump help build and pay for!
The GOP has to unify with Trump or lose. Do you want another far left, radical Democrat in the White House? I guess you do. Being a foreigner, and guess you are just being subversive.
Post by: JeffDG on May 05, 2016, 11:55:44 AM
The GOP has to unify with Trump or lose. Do you want another far left, radical Democrat in the White House? I guess you do. Being a foreigner, and guess you are just being subversive.Nope, I will not vote for a far left radical Democrat. That includes Trump. If you are willing to vote for a Democrat just because he put an (R) behind his name a couple weeks ago, that's between you and your conscience.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on May 05, 2016, 11:56:45 AM
Well...let's recap.
He's flipped on min wage, he's now in bed with insiders like McConnell, Boehner, now Rove (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278888-rove-trump-wins-if-he-tones-it-down) is in his camp. Yep, good thing that all the Trumpkins disavowed the "establishment" that Trump help build and pay for!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Time to unite behind Trump to squash Hillary like the insect she is.
Post by: acrogimp on May 05, 2016, 11:58:58 AM
The GOP has to unify with Trump or lose. Do you want another far left, radical Democrat in the White House? I guess you do. Being a foreigner, and guess you are just being subversive.So Jeff is still the only person on the entire Interwebz that I have on ignore, and in your quoting of him I see no reason to change it.
On review, Trump didn't flop on minimum wage, the quote he was open to changing it was taken out of context by the press omitting the very next thing he said which was his focus will be on jobs that pay way more than min wage - but Jeff won't let the truth get in the way of his failed jihad.
Rove was on Fox just last night and is still not openly supporting Trump so that is just a bald-faced lie unless Karl came out from underneath his bridge somewhere and made a more declarative statement today.
Consider the source when it comes to JihadJeff, or as I do just ignore him completely unless and until he shows an ability to offer even a modicum of actual value to a discussion.
'Gimp
Post by: Lucifer on May 05, 2016, 11:59:36 AM
The GOP has to unify with Trump or lose. Do you want another far left, radical Democrat in the White House? I guess you do. Being a foreigner, and guess you are just being subversive.
And he has been beating the drum for Hillary since this board started.
Post by: nddons on May 05, 2016, 12:02:02 PM
Well...let's recap.We are on day 2 of Trump being the presumptive nominee, and already the shopping cart is full of election lies and reversals.
He's flipped on min wage, he's now in bed with insiders like McConnell, Boehner, now Rove (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278888-rove-trump-wins-if-he-tones-it-down) is in his camp. Yep, good thing that all the Trumpkins disavowed the "establishment" that Trump help build and pay for!
I no longer have a dog in the fight. But it sure would be nice to see Trump supporters call him out on the lies, and even try to hold him accountable. Instead, I see complicity in the downfall. Sad.
Post by: JeffDG on May 05, 2016, 12:03:52 PM
But it sure would be nice to see Trump supporters call him out on the lies, and even try to hold him accountable.That's funny.
Post by: Lucifer on May 05, 2016, 12:07:17 PM
We are on day 2 of Trump being the presumptive nominee, and already the shopping cart is full of election lies and reversals.
I no longer have a dog in the fight. But it sure would be nice to see Trump supporters call him out on the lies, and even try to hold him accountable. Instead, I see complicity in the downfall. Sad.
Are you going for the record of the biggest butt hurt during an election loss?
(http://i1305.photobucket.com/albums/s549/lucifer68/crybaby_zpskq8z1zql.jpg)
Post by: JeffDG on May 05, 2016, 12:09:45 PM
The anti-Trumpkins point out policy and position problems with the Trump campaign.
The Trumpkins can only respond with ad hominem insults. See above.
Post by: nddons on May 05, 2016, 12:22:54 PM
You know what's telling about the Trumpkins.
The anti-Trumpkins point out policy and position problems with the Trump campaign.
The Trumpkins can only respond with ad hominem insults. See above.
Post by: bflynn on May 06, 2016, 09:33:08 PM
Well...let's recap.
He's flipped on min wage, he's now in bed with insiders like McConnell, Boehner, now Rove (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/278888-rove-trump-wins-if-he-tones-it-down) is in his camp. Yep, good thing that all the Trumpkins disavowed the "establishment" that Trump help build and pay for!
I keep telling everyone that you're not understanding him. He is a deal maker. From his own mouth, you're not going to believe the deals he makes. Nothing that he says can be taken at face value, it is ALL on the table for trade. He will trade one policy off in order to get another policy implemented.
Whatever pet project of yours you think he is favor of, try again. He is in favor of having your support so that you make an issue more valuable on the trading block and that allows him to make more deals.
Post by: Dav8or on May 07, 2016, 09:08:25 AM
I keep telling everyone that you're not understanding him. He is a deal maker. From his own mouth, you're not going to believe the deals he makes. Nothing that he says can be taken at face value, it is ALL on the table for trade. He will trade one policy off in order to get another policy implemented.
Whatever pet project of yours you think he is favor of, try again. He is in favor of having your support so that you make an issue more valuable on the trading block and that allows him to make more deals.
Exactly. Trump is in this for the sake of Trump. He just wants to be president. Once he's actually there, he'll figure out what he wants to do and everything is negotiable.
Post by: Number7 on May 07, 2016, 09:16:12 AM
Behind them all are people pulling the strings for reasons of their own.
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on May 07, 2016, 05:34:00 PM
I believe Donald Trump wants to be President for the power, which is the ultimate aphrodisiac to people like him and Hilary Clinton. I also believe that Barack Obama wanted to be President because he hates America and wanted to bring it down, which is exactly what his policies are doing.
Behind them all are people pulling the strings for reasons of their own.
I think Melania is the ultimate aphrodisiac. ;)
Post by: nddons on May 07, 2016, 05:35:43 PM
Exactly. Trump is in this for the sake of Trump. He just wants to be president. Once he's actually there, he'll figure out what he wants to do and everything is negotiable.Totally agreed. Even the Trump fans here acknowledge that Trump does not follow "principles."
Post by: Little Joe on May 07, 2016, 05:43:12 PM
I don't think he could do any worse.
Post by: JeffDG on May 07, 2016, 07:48:19 PM
I don't think he could do any worse.Every time someone has said that, they've been proven disastrously wrong.
Post by: Dav8or on May 07, 2016, 11:13:10 PM
I think Trump wants to be President because he actually wants to help America be great again. He has seen what has been going on, and being the egotistical person he is, he thinks he can do better.
I don't think he could do any worse.
The big question is... what does he think is great? What does Donald Trump's "Great America" look like? I imagine it starts with a complete White House remodel. With his own money of course. That way it can be Trump White House and managed by his property management company.
And that brings up another point. Does the White House really need to be white? Wouldn't it look better in an American true blue?
I have no idea what a Great America looks like to Donald Trump and neither does anybody else.
Post by: FastEddieB on May 08, 2016, 04:49:37 AM
The big question is... what does he think is great? What does Donald Trump's "Great America" look like? ...
I have no idea what a Great America looks like to Donald Trump and neither does anybody else.
Four score and a hundred and fifty years ago
Our forefathers made us equal as long as we can pay
Yeah, well maybe that wasn't exactly what they was thinkin'
Version six-point-oh of the American way
But hey we can just build a great wall around the country club
To keep the riff-raff out until the slump is through
Yeah, I realize that ain't exactly democratic, but it's either them or us and
And it's the best we can do.
Amerika ver 6.0 - Steve Earle
http://youtu.be/ja07pp4D8ec (http://youtu.be/ja07pp4D8ec)
Post by: Little Joe on May 08, 2016, 05:15:10 AM
Post by: Mase on May 08, 2016, 05:34:36 AM
Post by: JeffDG on May 08, 2016, 09:45:25 AM
And that brings up another point. Does the White House really need to be white? Wouldn't it look better in an American true blue?Orange. It'll be terrific, believe me.
Post by: Little Joe on May 08, 2016, 10:43:10 AM
Orange. It'll be terrific, believe me.I'll be glad when this election is over and you can get back to acting like the intelligent adult that I know you are. But comments like this add absolutely no intelligent content.
Post by: JeffDG on May 08, 2016, 11:45:56 AM
I'll be glad when this election is over and you can get back to acting like the intelligent adult that I know you are. But comments like this add absolutely no intelligent content.Get a sense of humour...I was playing off a joke.
Post by: nddons on May 08, 2016, 07:50:29 PM
I'll be glad when this election is over and you can get back to acting like the intelligent adult that I know you are. But comments like this add absolutely no intelligent content.Come on. You've got to be kidding. That was funny.
Post by: Anthony on June 05, 2016, 09:15:33 AM
Orange. It'll be terrific, believe me.
Well that's better than the Rainbow when the LGBT ruling came down.