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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on March 25, 2016, 07:36:39 AM

Title: Lightweight Reince Priebus a 'Disaster' for GOP
Post by: Lucifer on March 25, 2016, 07:36:39 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/christopher-ruddy-reince-priebus-rnc-lightweight/2016/03/24/id/720775/?Dkt_nbr=13074-1&nmx_source=The_Hill&nmx_medium=widget&nmx_content=121&nmx_campaign=widgetphase2
Title: Re: Lightweight Reince Priebus a 'Disaster' for GOP
Post by: nddons on March 25, 2016, 07:48:06 AM

http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/christopher-ruddy-reince-priebus-rnc-lightweight/2016/03/24/id/720775/?Dkt_nbr=13074-1&nmx_source=The_Hill&nmx_medium=widget&nmx_content=121&nmx_campaign=widgetphase2

Good article. Priebus is a rock star in Wisconsin, but he let this entire process get away from him, and that falls on his shoulders.

Shouldn't there be some consequence for Trump depriving the GOP voters from seeing a one-on-one debate between Trump and Cruz, for example?  Trump said he wanted a two man race with Cruz. Now he's got one (albeit with ankle-biter Kasich hanging around) and Trump won't debate. Coward.
Title: Re: Lightweight Reince Priebus a 'Disaster' for GOP
Post by: Lucifer on March 25, 2016, 08:00:09 AM
Good article. Priebus is a rock star in Wisconsin, but he let this entire process get away from him, and that falls on his shoulders.

Shouldn't there be some consequence for Trump depriving the GOP voters from seeing a one-on-one debate between Trump and Cruz, for example?  Trump said he wanted a two man race with Cruz. Now he's got one (albeit with ankle-biter Kasich hanging around) and Trump won't debate. Coward.

 I would agree on the debate item with an exception:  Priebus has turned the debates into a spectacle and a side show for the networks ratings.  If they could have a real debate, say on CSPAN, with a moderator who could truly be neutral and not out to boost his own career (unlike Megan Kelly) and actually give the candidates time to speak, then time to respond, then yes go for it.

 
Title: Re: Lightweight Reince Priebus a 'Disaster' for GOP
Post by: nddons on March 25, 2016, 08:07:20 AM

I would agree on the debate item with an exception:  Priebus has turned the debates into a spectacle and a side show for the networks ratings.  If they could have a real debate, say on CSPAN, with a moderator who could truly be neutral and not out to boost his own career (unlike Megan Kelly) and actually give the candidates time to speak, then time to respond, then yes go for it.

Agreed completely. Fox was an embarrassment. It's pretty bad when CNN had the best substantive GOP debates vs. the Fox Food Fights.
Title: Re: Lightweight Reince Priebus a 'Disaster' for GOP
Post by: acrogimp on March 25, 2016, 08:44:24 AM
Good article. Priebus is a rock star in Wisconsin, but he let this entire process get away from him, and that falls on his shoulders.

Shouldn't there be some consequence for Trump depriving the GOP voters from seeing a one-on-one debate between Trump and Cruz, for example?  Trump said he wanted a two man race with Cruz. Now he's got one (albeit with ankle-biter Kasich hanging around) and Trump won't debate. Coward.
Priebus has always been a tool and is an abject failure as head of the RNC. 

The entire Establishment rewards themselves for the actions taken by the voting electorate which is why they are so disconnected as to not understand what is even going on right now.  We have been voting out of necessity to try and protect the Republic not 'for' their candidates for decades and we figured out it is red meat during the primaries, center right during the general, and then shit in our faces once elected.

Trump has no reason to debate Cruz as far as he is concerned.  I wouldn't call it being cowardly, I call it defining the terms of engagement - Trump is running the campaign he wants to run, and he is clearly in the lead.

In a dogfight you fight your fight, you never let the other guy set the terms. 

Cruz is a distant second, Trump is in control - the debates (from the soundbites I have seen) have been useless for determining anything of value and have been unreasonably Trump-centric, why would anyone put themselves up abuse?

Trump needs to be concerned about shenanigans within the system to deny him the nomination even though he will very likely have a clear majority of the delegates.  Cruz forces in LA for example are working to overturn the will of the people in that state - that is what a good candidate focuses on, the actual tactical and strategic situation leading to the Convention.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Lightweight Reince Priebus a 'Disaster' for GOP
Post by: Little Joe on March 29, 2016, 06:42:04 AM
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. . . the debates (from the soundbites I have seen) have been useless for determining anything of value . . .

'Gimp
The debates were worse than that.  Even when the candidates records or positions were practically identical, they were put into a position where they had to greatly amplify any tiny little differences in order to try to distinguish themselves.  This lead to greatly criticizing each other for their minor differences and the "circular firing squad" was the inevitable result.