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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Ron22 on March 05, 2018, 07:40:22 AM

Title: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: Ron22 on March 05, 2018, 07:40:22 AM
what happened to Russia  :) 
Nothing to find, lets try the middle east maybe they did something.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/03/mueller-is-now-looking-into-middle-eastern-influence-as-part-of-the-trump-investigation/
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Special counsel Robert Mueller has expanded his investigation to look into the Trump White House’s ties to a Lebanese-American businessman who works closely with the de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates, the New York Times reports.
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2018, 08:04:15 AM
One must understand the true reason of the Mueller investigation.

 We already know that the Trump Russia collusion story was a hoax.  No evidence whatsoever.  In fact the evidence clearly shows the DNC/Clinton campaign did collude with Russia in an attempt to persuade the election.  The evidence is overwhelming and involves the weaponization of the DoJ and FBI as they plotted against an elected President.

 Eric Holder in his enthusiasm gave away a bit of it already.  They are simply looking for something, anything to pin on Trump in a vain attempt to remove him from office.  Why?  First of all, the fix was in and Hillary was suppose to win.  This was the "third term" of Obama and the further destruction of the country into progressive socialistic values.  Second, they realize Trump is making big changes to the economy that lingered under Obama and that voters like seeing more money, better jobs and prosperity. This will easily coast DJT to a reelection in 2020, so he must be removed.   Third, the progressives have convinced themselves if they can remove DJT from office it will take Pence with him and through the cooperation of the swamp a progressive will be sworn into office to "make it right".  Fourth, if they can be successful in their endeavor it will ensure that from now on, if the deplorables dare elect someone to the WH all the progressives will have to do is cook up another faux scandal to remove them and put one of their own in office.

 Alan Dershowitz has laid out the case that there is no way DJT can be indicted for firing a member of his staff (such as Comey).  So the "obstruction of justice" in firing Comey won't fly.  It will also open up DJT's attorneys to call witnesses which will in turn be very embarrassing to the DoJ/FBI.

 So now Mueller is desperately trying to find something, anything to indite DJT over.  And even if it doesn't go anywhere, the progressives are hoping to use that against him in 2020.
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: invflatspin on March 05, 2018, 08:06:48 AM
It's 'Where's Waldo' for adults.  8)
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: bflynn on March 05, 2018, 08:50:52 AM
They don't need to remove him from office.  After all, only Congress can remove him and then only with a 2/3 vote in the Senate.  It's just not going to happen.  Ok, I won't say never, it would actually be good for Republicans to vote Trump out and make Pence the incumbent.  If they can do it on Jan 22, we could have 10 years of a Pence presidency.

I think their real drive is to discredit everything he says, not that he doesn't already do a good job of that himself.  If he just kept his mouth shut, he would actually be doing so much better...a lot of his damage is self-inflicted.

What they want is to keep him constantly tied up with garbage and off message.
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 05, 2018, 09:09:25 AM
No chance on the "keeping his mouth shut" hope.

But I like having a president with a sense of humor! Who talks to us!

You gotta read his remarks at the Gridiron dinner. Classic Trump!

He's a national treasure. 🙂

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376673-read-trumps-remarks-at-gridiron-dinner

Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: invflatspin on March 05, 2018, 09:51:37 AM
...."And Oprah. Oh ... here’s my next one. Oprah, I don’t think she’s ever been hit verbally yet. Right? She’s led a charmed life. She’s done a great job. ... She used to love me …. I was on one of her last shows, ‘The Trump Family.’ We’re going to have to replay that for her. We’re going to have to. ... She says she’ll run only if she gets the go ahead from the Almighty. All right Oprah, go ahead and run. ...  "

Okay, I don't care who you are, that's just funny.
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on March 05, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
...."And Oprah. Oh ... here’s my next one. Oprah, I don’t think she’s ever been hit verbally yet. Right? She’s led a charmed life. She’s done a great job. ... She used to love me …. I was on one of her last shows, ‘The Trump Family.’ We’re going to have to replay that for her. We’re going to have to. ... She says she’ll run only if she gets the go ahead from the Almighty. All right Oprah, go ahead and run. ...  "

Okay, I don't care who you are, that's just funny.
It's especially funny when you note that the lib Joy Behar makes fun of Mike Pence for listening to God.  She says praying to God is one thing, but listening to him ... "that's mental illness, right? Hearing voices?"

Unless Oprah does it!

Dems motto: Give Incoherence and Hypocrisy a Chance!

Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: Number7 on March 05, 2018, 01:17:28 PM
{rogressive should defined as hypocrite, and get it over with. I've never seen such institutionalized hypocrisy as the democrats  serve up daily.

gotta love fake conservatives claiming that if we just changed into liberals they'd vote for republicans.
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: invflatspin on March 05, 2018, 01:22:01 PM
I'm frankly amazed at how much has been done already in this admin compared to BO. Yeah, there's a lot of hot air being slung, but we're sort of on the move. If the congress would get over it's case of cranio-rectumitis, the ACA would be repealed. Trump can't do anything about that except make the funding/penalties for compliance moot.
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 05, 2018, 04:40:47 PM
Isn't appointing a special counsel only supposed to happen if there has been a crime?  Why is there no scope for this investigation. Are we going to allow Muller to just investigate whatever he pleases?  Time to get rid of Sessions and appoint someone from outside the swamp.
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: invflatspin on March 05, 2018, 04:56:12 PM
A SP is appointed when the investigation may be tainted by the very people that would normally run, and manage the investigation. To whit, the executive who has hire and fire authority over the DOJ. One of the most critical phases of the Watergate debacle was the firing of Archie Cox, the first SP. Sadly, due to this history, the fact that Nixon fired Cox, all future SPs have wide, if not unlimited latitude in their investigation. Further to that point, Ken Starr(special counsel) did basically the same job as a SP, however as counsel he had limited power to compel testimony, much less lead and investigation. But - that's just what he did as a sort of ersatz SP looking into the sudden death of Foster. Subsequently, he found evidence of perjury by Clinton in an unrelated matter, and brought it to DOJ. So - the history of the SP was even greater reinforced to look anywhere, for anything. And now we come to the third installment. The SP for Trump is Mueller, who was invested to look into the collusion with Russia and the campaign angle. However, he has found nothing of the sort, but in his wide sweep is picking up malfeasance unrelated to and separate from the collusion angle, and is prosecuting vicariously along the political path against the republicans(and quashing, or ignoring blatant malfeasance on the left).
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2018, 04:56:38 PM
Isn't appointing a special counsel only supposed to happen if there has been a crime?  Why is there no scope for this investigation. Are we going to allow Muller to just investigate whatever he pleases?  Time to get rid of Sessions and appoint someone from outside the swamp.

 Correct.

 However, the whole special counsel that we are witnessing is a scam. Remember, Rosenstein is overseeing this.  Rosenstein, who is good friends with both Mueller and Comey, who was also instrumental in the Steele Dossier and getting it's use by the FISA court so the Trump campaign could be spied upon using the full power of the government (weaponization).

 Rosenstein was also the same guy who wrote a letter to President Trump recommending the termination of Comey (along with Sessions) then, once Comey was fired, appointed a Special Counsel who just happened to be Comey's pal.   

 Is this starting to reek yet?

 Sessions can't be fired.  If Trump fires him all hell will break loose.  Rosenstein has essentially set the President up in a political trap and has also put Sessions where he can't interfere.

 
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 05, 2018, 07:44:40 PM
I'm just so tired of this and really fear for the health of our country.
Title: Re: Mueller Is Now Looking Into Middle Eastern Influence
Post by: Lucifer on March 05, 2018, 08:30:06 PM
I'm just so tired of this and really fear for the health of our country.

Many share your feelings.  We are watching a coup unfold before our eyes and affirmation that our government is out of control and heavily weaponized politically.