PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Number7 on October 10, 2018, 07:07:17 AM
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Listening to the radio this morning, I heard that Rasmussen has Independent voters are breaking toward the GOP at about 60/40.
Our democrat neighbors refuse to ask about the Kavanaugh ugliness, but say they are thinking about either voting for a third party, or not showing up.
Absent massive fraud, I see a sad night coming up for democrats. However, fraud is their stock in trade, so I am not confirpdent, and believe that many counties that have elected democrat (communist) supervisor of elections, will resort to outright fraud when reporting the votes.
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I am cautiously hopeful the R's will retain the House, and Senate. However, I am reluctant to predict anything, nor even consider ANY poll accurate. The Left is talking about a "Blue Wave". I don't see that happening, and if I had to GUESS, I would think the opposite would be true, especially with all the Trump bashing, BLM, Antifa, and the Kavanaugh debacle.
The Left is certainly UHINGED, and needs to be stopped yet again. Hillary, being on yet another "TOUR" isn't helping them.
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I'm not holding my breath. I know too many Democrats that refuse to believe anything they hear good about Trump, or bad about Ds. They just scoff. And they all hate Trump so much, they would vote from their deathbed. Or if in a place like Chicago, from their grave site.
As far as the Kavanaugh thing goes, they all think the allegations are serious enough that he should have been disqualified. Even the guys that I am sure did worse in college that Kavanaugh was alleged to have done.
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The mouth foaming alt left is ramping up violence ahead of the election. And the MSM is covering it. Something really ugly is getting ready to happen as dimms such as Waters, Booker, Clinton, and many more are calling for violence. If this happens it will push many moderate dems either not to vote, or vote republican.
The alt left progressives are convinced that any violence that happens can be pinned on Trump. If you watch the MSM right now that's one of their lock step talking points.
Like I keep saying, the day after this election is going to be an epic meltdown.
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The mouth foaming alt left is ramping up violence ahead of the election. And the MSM is covering it. Something really ugly is getting ready to happen as dimms such as Waters, Booker, Clinton, and many more are calling for violence. If this happens it will push many moderate dems either not to vote, or vote republican.
The alt left progressives are convinced that any violence that happens can be pinned on Trump. If you watch the MSM right now that's one of their lock step talking points.
Like I keep saying, the day after this election is going to be an epic meltdown.
That's ok. I'm still bitter clinging to my guns, and religion. Also, making more cartridges in the basement. :)
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Analysis today says it's about 50/50 of Republicans INCREASING their numbers in the Senate. It's running about 80% of them holding control.
About a 25% chance of holding the House.
Still a month left. Lots of things will change, including the polls.
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The mouth foaming alt left is ramping up violence ahead of the election. And the MSM is covering it. Something really ugly is getting ready to happen as dimms such as Waters, Booker, Clinton, and many more are calling for violence. If this happens it will push many moderate dems either not to vote, or vote republican.
The alt left progressives are convinced that any violence that happens can be pinned on Trump. If you watch the MSM right now that's one of their lock step talking points.
Like I keep saying, the day after this election is going to be an epic meltdown.
Sometime very soon - November 2018 or November 2020 - we will see Antifa start to swarm polling places, causing voters to decide that it’s not worth it to risk getting hurt just to vote. And when that happens, the police will not shut down these violent troublemakers, but will make sure that Antifa can continue their protests as long as they don’t get within 50’ of the polling place doors. And this will be declared by the MSM “This is what democracy looks like”, ignoring the fact that voting percentages are down significantly in certain Republican precincts.
This is where we are going.
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Sometime very soon - November 2018 or November 2020 - we will see Antifa start to swarm polling places, causing voters to decide that it’s not worth it to risk getting hurt just to vote. And when that happens, the police will not shut down these violent troublemakers, but will make sure that Antifa can continue their protests as long as they don’t get within 50’ of the polling place doors. And this will be declared by the MSM “This is what democracy looks like”, ignoring the fact that voting percentages are down significantly in certain Republican precincts.
This is where we are going.
MSM and the alt left are already indoctrinating and justifying the violence. Voter intimidation is already underway by the progressives.
Polling: The far left MSM polls will be, as usual, leading polls to attempt to sway the vote, this will never go away. As far as more legitimate polling goes, they will suffer because many moderates will not want to broadcast their intentions nor make themselves targets, so they will suffer as well.
Just as in 2016, many voters will go to the polls and remain silent. It's this "silent vote" that will turn the "blue wave" to the "yellow trickle".
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The silence of the #Walkaway movement from the media is deafening.
If this were a left wing grassroots movement away from the conservatives we would be hearing about it 30 times every news cycle. It would be front page above the fold on bbc.com, and splashed all over NYT every - damn - day. The media is trying to tank it, but people on FB and Twitter, and just by word of mouth are starting to catch on. Strange that not even Foxnews.com has any mention.
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Sometime very soon - November 2018 or November 2020 - we will see Antifa start to swarm polling places, causing voters to decide that it’s not worth it to risk getting hurt just to vote. And when that happens, the police will not shut down these violent troublemakers, but will make sure that Antifa can continue their protests as long as they don’t get within 50’ of the polling place doors. And this will be declared by the MSM “This is what democracy looks like”, ignoring the fact that voting percentages are down significantly in certain Republican precincts.
This is where we are going.
Why wait until Nov?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-antifa-protesters-caught-on-video-bullying-elderly-motorist-woman-in-wheelchair
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Why wait until Nov?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/portland-antifa-protesters-caught-on-video-bullying-elderly-motorist-woman-in-wheelchair
The biggest cowards in America just happen to wear black and cover their faces... just like the cowards of the KKK.
I see no difference between either orgazinization, and they are both the child of the democrat party.
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And the police, due to their Democrat masters, are afraid to do anything that would actually deter this crap. The old lady in the wheelchair should have pulled out a large can of pepper spray, and sprayed their BLM/Antifa asses.
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The violence is all in your mind, you dregs!
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-its-one-left-wing-riot-after-another-but-leftist-leaders-have-decided-the-problem-is-you.amp?__twitter_impression=true
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https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Police-Orangetown-Feds-NY-Bombmaking-Bombs-New-York-DC-Target--496647721.html
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Left: YOU CAN'T WORK WITH TRUMP OR THE RIGHT!!!!
Kanye: Yo, Mr President. Let's talk about race relations and prison reform
Left: THEY ARE USELESS!!! "Kanye knows NOTHING, he has been a sellout" **
Yeah. This is why Independents are saying WTF about the Democrats. Will they accomplish something? I don't know, but I know that you have to talk to people to get a clue what they stand for. A conversation about race relations is a good thing, a conversation about prison reform is a good thing. I think prison reform is something the Republicans ought to push from the Senate side, even if they don't control the House. They ought to start now...timing is everything in politics.
** Actual quote from Twitter
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Left: YOU CAN'T WORK WITH TRUMP OR THE RIGHT!!!!
Kanye: Yo, Mr President. Let's talk about race relations and prison reform
Left: THEY ARE USELESS!!! "Kanye knows NOTHING, he has been a sellout" **
Yeah. This is why Independents are saying WTF about the Democrats. Will they accomplish something? I don't know, but I know that you have to talk to people to get a clue what they stand for. A conversation about race relations is a good thing, a conversation about prison reform is a good thing. I think prison reform is something the Republicans ought to push from the Senate side, even if they don't control the House. They ought to start now...timing is everything in politics.
** Actual quote from Twitter
YES they need to get on that NOW. Prison reform and drug law reform because they are closely tied. We simply cannot continue incarcerating the numbers we are and call ourselves a free nation. It's past the tipping point, because it's part of what's driving the left's rage, and on that point, they are entirely correct. If we are seeing a large trickle of blacks walk away from the Democrat party, we could turn that into a Tsunami if we fixed this one thing. Paul Butler I think is his name, a black prosecutor in D.C. wrote a book about this, and his solution is juries need to start nullifying like crazy when it comes to non-violent drug offenses.
Conservatives and Libertarians understand the concept of Jury Nullification and need to join with Butler and educate the black community, the Republicans need to take up this banner because the Democrats have left a vacuum there.
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I can't take Kanye seriously after he absolutely butchered a segment of Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.
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YES they need to get on that NOW. Prison reform and drug law reform because they are closely tied. We simply cannot continue incarcerating the numbers we are and call ourselves a free nation. It's past the tipping point, because it's part of what's driving the left's rage, and on that point, they are entirely correct. If we are seeing a large trickle of blacks walk away from the Democrat party, we could turn that into a Tsunami if we fixed this one thing. Paul Butler I think is his name, a black prosecutor in D.C. wrote a book about this, and his solution is juries need to start nullifying like crazy when it comes to non-violent drug offenses.
Conservatives and Libertarians understand the concept of Jury Nullification and need to join with Butler and educate the black community, the Republicans need to take up this banner because the Democrats have left a vacuum there.
Drugs should be legalized, and we should NOT be putting non-violent criminals in jail.
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De-criminalizing drug use might be useful for bringing in more from the left, but it will cost some votes from the die-hard on the right. In the wake of BO's anathema towards LEO community, the right has gone all-in on law and order.
the libertarian/anarchist in me thinks that drug laws are draconian. The realist in me knows that if modern recreational pharmaceuticals are made legal we will be a weird place. It will go pear-shaped fairly quickly, and we'll have a certain segment of the population that will never be even remotely contributory. Beyond that, not only will this segment not contribute(marginally) to the society, they will become a rather large drain which will be absorbed by us responsible folks at some significant cost.
Messing with social standards is a precarious way to go. Then again - we've given our govt the power to restrict pleasure for the good of all. Hard one to fix.
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YES they need to get on that NOW. Prison reform and drug law reform because they are closely tied. We simply cannot continue incarcerating the numbers we are and call ourselves a free nation. It's past the tipping point, because it's part of what's driving the left's rage, and on that point, they are entirely correct. If we are seeing a large trickle of blacks walk away from the Democrat party, we could turn that into a Tsunami if we fixed this one thing. Paul Butler I think is his name, a black prosecutor in D.C. wrote a book about this, and his solution is juries need to start nullifying like crazy when it comes to non-violent drug offenses.
Conservatives and Libertarians understand the concept of Jury Nullification and need to join with Butler and educate the black community, the Republicans need to take up this banner because the Democrats have left a vacuum there.
I’ll be honest, I do NOT get this prison reform movement. It is not disputed they certain minority communities disproportionately commit the majority of violent crimes. That those same communities also make up the disproportionate majority of the prison population.
People simply are not put into prison for being a drug user. As for drug pushers, we have a horrible opioid crisis in Wisconsin. In 2017, 883 people died of opioid overdoses, more than the number killed in car crashes. I would argue heroin dealers are not non-violent offenders.
In Wisconsin half the democrat challengers, including the primary winner, want to cut the prison population in half as a matter of policy. That’s about 12,000 inmates. However, 67% of all inmates have committed violent crimes, including murder, rape, assault, robbery, extortion, etc. The remaining 1/3 includes drug dealers, white collar crimes, etc.
It is mathematically impossible to do what the democrats want to do without releasing violent offenders onto our streets.
So how do we fix this perceived problem without making our streets much more dangerous?
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Drugs should be legalized, and we should NOT be putting non-violent criminals in jail.
Where should these felons go if not prison? Very, very few people are in prison for their first offense.
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Where should these felons go if not prison? Very, very few people are in prison for their first offense.
House arrest, Probation, fines, etc. A friend of mine had no prior offenses and did JAIL TIME for a DUI, plus house arrest, then probation. It was a Misdemeanor.
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Prison reform is about multiple things. One is permissiveness, there are people who want to do things and not be punished for it.
Drugs is a big focus. There is some slight legitimacy to this - drug sentencing laws are unequal and punish drugs favored by African Americans more harshly than drugs favored by white people. This can probably be fixed easily enough but it won’t do a lot because the level of recidivism is also higher in the African American community. When you are serving your third strike, you obviously didn’t learn from before so there will be a harsher sentence.
But overall politicians should be clear if their version of prison reform is to let’s violent offenders out early.
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What is meant by "reform". It is sort of in the eye of the beholder.
Take "tax reform" for instance. Everyone said we needed "tax reform", but I suspect a liberal's version of tax reform would be quite different from my version.
As for Prison reform, what is meant by that?
To me, prison reform would end the concept of amateur criminals going into prison and coming out professional criminals.
It would mean ending "prison gangs".
Prison should have 3 goals.
1. Punishment.
2. Protecting society from criminals.
3. Rehabilitation.
It would be wonderful if #3 (rehabilitation) was the #1 goal, but some people just can't be rehabilitated.
To me, reform does not mean softer mattresses, better food, conjugal visits or the restoration of civil rights. It means taking criminals off the streets.
I would also go so far as to say prison reform would end the situation where capital punishment may take 30 years or more to carry out. Punishment should be swift or it is ineffective.
So what does "prison reform" mean to you?
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What is meant by "reform". It is sort of in the eye of the beholder.
Take "tax reform" for instance. Everyone said we needed "tax reform", but I suspect a liberal's version of tax reform would be quite different from my version.
As for Prison reform, what is meant by that?
To me, prison reform would end the concept of amateur criminals going into prison and coming out professional criminals.
It would mean ending "prison gangs".
Prison should have 3 goals.
1. Punishment.
2. Protecting society from criminals.
3. Rehabilitation.
It would be wonderful if #3 (rehabilitation) was the #1 goal, but some people just can't be rehabilitated.
To me, reform does not mean softer mattresses, better food, conjugal visits or the restoration of civil rights. It means taking criminals off the streets.
I would also go so far as to say prison reform would end the situation where capital punishment may take 30 years or more to carry out. Punishment should be swift or it is ineffective.
So what does "prison reform" mean to you?
If you’re asking me, prisons don’t need to be reformed, unless that means that staying in one is decidedly less pleasant than it is today. What I mean by that is for anyone to be a recidivist means that they feel that they could get along in prison if they have to go back. I’m ok with the Cool Hand Luke model of prisons, but I’m probably an outlier.
You mention that prison reform to you means keeping criminals off the street. I don’t see any other way than possibly increasing the prison population. Given the prison reform discussion that has taken place in Wisconsin, a Milwaukee County judge was on the radio a few weeks ago and said that virtually no criminal, absent true violent crimes like murder and rape, ever go to prison after the first offense. They are sentenced to the solutions that Anthony mentioned above, with a good dose of probation to boot. Same with their second offense. Come the third offense, they are probably off to prison.
It’s a shame that these people get a second or third chance to victimize victims.
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If you’re asking me, prisons don’t need to be reformed, unless that means that staying in one is decidedly less pleasant than it is today. What I mean by that is for anyone to be a recidivist means that they feel that they could get along in prison if they have to go back. I’m ok with the Cool Hand Luke model of prisons, but I’m probably an outlier.
You mention that prison reform to you means keeping criminals off the street. I don’t see any other way than possibly increasing the prison population. Given the prison reform discussion that has taken place in Wisconsin, a Milwaukee County judge was on the radio a few weeks ago and said that virtually no criminal, absent true violent crimes like murder and rape, ever go to prison after the first offense. They are sentenced to the solutions that Anthony mentioned above, with a good dose of probation to boot. Same with their second offense. Come the third offense, they are probably off to prison.
It’s a shame that these people get a second or third chance to victimize victims.
I think first offenders should receive a short dose of corporeal punishment. Something they would hope they will never have to endure again. Then their records should be sealed, unless and until they commit another offense. They should NOT be locked up with a bunch of hardened criminals that will teach them how to be better criminals.
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I can't take Kanye seriously after he absolutely butchered a segment of Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.
Someone dared to try to cover that???!!!!
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I can't take Kanye seriously after he absolutely butchered a segment of Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody.
Liberals will find ANY excuse to cut down those that don't follow the party line. ;)
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Liberals will find ANY excuse to cut down those that don't follow the party line. ;)
Haha.
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Haha.
It's no joke. Look at what Don Lemon just did to West on his CNN report. Leave the Liberal machine and be persecuted to the end.
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Haha.
Why are you deluding yourself?
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It's no joke. Look at what Don Lemon just did to West on his CNN report. Leave the Liberal machine and be persecuted to the end.
Yeah. But have you watched his Mercury impression?
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Why are you deluding yourself?
Relax. Little Joe's response was a half joke (and half not) to my comment about butchering Bohemian Rhapsody. I laughed. Ain't nothing more to it than that.
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It's no joke. Look at what Don Lemon just did to West on his CNN report. Leave the Liberal machine and be persecuted to the end.
Kanye dared step off the plantation and is now being punished by the progressives for his egregious activity.
Isn't it amazing how progressives can be racist on air in the MSM and not suffer any consequences? Take CNN's meltdown over this story (Kanye West in the WH). The racist mantra was over the top.
Could you imagine if say, Fox News would have done this same story using the same racist remarks?
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Relax. Little Joe's response was a half joke (and half not) to my comment about butchering Bohemian Rhapsody. I laughed. Ain't nothing more to it than that.
I'm very relaxed. You?
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I'm very relaxed. You?
:)
Working on a production plan for a good, but languishing carrier contract. Bummer.
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It appears here in the ATL dems are buying votes now.
https://twitter.com/LaDawnLBJJones/status/1049820118421778432
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It appears here in the ATL dems are buying votes now.
https://twitter.com/LaDawnLBJJones/status/1049820118421778432
Someone needs to file a complaint on that. The state attorney general needs to get involved.
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Someone needs to file a complaint on that. The state attorney general needs to get involved.
One might say it is not paying for a vote but incentivizing registration. Not sure if that is illegal. ???
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One might say it is not paying for a vote but incentivizing registration. Not sure if that is illegal. ???
From what I've read, it's very illegal. They are essentially using government funds as an incentive to register.
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Yeah. But have you watched his Mercury impression?
Ok, that was cool. What an unbelievable talent Freddy Mercury was.
-Dan