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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on June 05, 2017, 04:16:46 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4575094/NSA-contractor-charged-leaking-Russian-hack-report.html
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/06/05/nsa-contractor-accused-leaking-top-secret-report-on-russian-hacking-efforts.html
A federal contractor was arrested over the weekend and accused of leaking a top-secret intelligence report on Russian hacking efforts during the 2016 presidential election.
Reality Leigh Winner, 25, appeared in federal court in Augusta, Ga., to face one charge of removing classified material from a government facility and mailing it to a news outlet, the Justice Department said Monday.
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Oh Good Lord! What are they doing contracting with such a young little airhead? Unless it's a setup.
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Her name is "Reality"? Really?? WTF?
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Her name is "Reality"? Really?? WTF?
That was an autocorrect. Her name is Reezlie apparently. Which is pretty pathetic editing for a journalism article. I guess, that's what I can figure...
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That was an autocorrect. Her name is Reezlie apparently. Which is pretty pathetic editing for a journalism article. I guess, that's what I can figure...
"Journalism" - Ha! Schools do not teach kids to be journalists anymore.
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That was an autocorrect. Her name is Reezlie apparently. Which is pretty pathetic editing for a journalism article. I guess, that's what I can figure...
From what I read now, her given name was Sara. She legally changed her name to Reality. Her Twitter handle is @Reezlie.
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It will be interesting to see how the justice system deals with a traitor.
When the traitor Obama was in charge of the government the treated the traitor Bergdahl like a hero.
I suspect Donald Trump will have a different approach.
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From what I read now, her given name was Sara. She legally changed her name to Reality. Her Twitter handle is @Reezlie.
Ah, thanks for the clarification.
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It is good to see such a secure intelligence gathering agency like the NSA vets contractors that they employ. ::) I was a contractor to a large Defense Contractor to the NSA, and had to go through a thorough background check, then had to get a Clearance.
Reality needs to get some reality.
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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mom-alleged-nsa-leaker-reality-winner-she-s-not-threat-n769101
The family of an intelligence contractor who allegedly leaked a highly classified document about Russian interference in the U.S. election told NBC News that "she would not jeopardize anybody's safety."
Reality Winner, a 25-year-old who worked at the National Security Agency, has been charged with providing the report to The Intercept, an online news organization. Winner's mother said her daughter was "terrified" when she returned to her Augusta home Saturday to find armed federal agents waiting for her.
"Her words to me was that she was scared she was going to be ... they were going to make her disappear," mother Billie Davis-Winner said Tuesday.
Yep, she's gonna disappear........for about 20 years to the federal penitentiary.
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Lock Her Up.
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It is good to see such a secure intelligence gathering agency like the NSA vets contractors that they employ. ::) I was a contractor to a large Defense Contractor to the NSA, and had to go through a thorough background check, then had to get a Clearance.
Reality needs to get some reality.
Apparently those they contract with aren't the quality they used to be, as the up and coming generations are more and more brainwashed by our public schools, and less and less inclined to personal responsibility because they didn't work during their teen years like we used to, and they aren't grounded in a moral system, and just plain common manners seems to be disappearing. This is the pool from which the NSA must draw. I don't have a very high opinion of our youth these days, I'm sorry to say.
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Apparently those they contract with aren't the quality they used to be, as the up and coming generations are more and more brainwashed by our public schools, and less and less inclined to personal responsibility because they didn't work during their teen years like we used to, and they aren't grounded in a moral system, and just plain common manners seems to be disappearing. This is the pool from which the NSA must draw. I don't have a very high opinion of our youth these days, I'm sorry to say.
I have met some youth that have changed my mine in some ways. However, many of them are Indian, or Asian, and a lot of their families have moved into my area to work in the IT, financial, pharmaceutical, and other technical industries in the region. Many are hyper focused on engineering, math, and technology. They really don't care much for history, and English, but the get all A's, in their core subjects.
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I have met some youth that have changed my mine in some ways. However, many of them are Indian, or Asian, and a lot of their families have moved into my area to work in the IT, financial, pharmaceutical, and other technical industries in the region. Many are hyper focused on engineering, math, and technology. They really don't care much for history, and English, but the get all A's, in their core subjects.
The thing about her is she had posted comments about supporting Edward Snowden as well as a lot of hatred toward Trump on social media. These should be red flags that she may be tempted to compromise security, but then most of that was after she had already been vetted and hired. She has a patriotic record with the military and no record of any wrongdoing prior to this.
Several things here convince me that she is very naive. I would say "stupid" but likely she has a very high IQ, but she did a lot of stupid things. First, thinking she could get away with printing out the reports. Even I know how to put spyware on machines to record every single thing you do. If the NSA is NOT 100% monitoring it's employees and contractors I would be very surprised and disappointed, and I would be very disappointed in an employee or contractor of theirs not assuming they were being monitored in this way. (Maybe it's one of those things a young person hasn't BTDT yet.)
Secondly, she spilled her guts without legal representation. WTF?? She confessed everything right off the bat. Either deep naivete, stupidity, unfamiliarity with the system, or it's a deliberate mission for some unimaginable reason. OR, just believing the rules don't apply to her, being another spoiled, misinformed millennial who consumed so much CNN that she truly thinks the whole world agrees with her that Trump is illegitimate and she would be a hero for trying to bring him down. She's half right about that - no doubt the left WILL completely lionize her for this. But trust me there are still enough FBI and NSA folks around on the other side to do her in. I hope they give her the max and send a clear message to the rest of the 4 million people with top secret clearances.
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She seems like a typical, unfocused Millennial "American" kid who has been brainwashed by our school system, and media to be a Social Justice Warrior (subversive communist) above all else.
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She seems like a typical, unfocused Millennial "American" kid who has been brainwashed by our school system, and media to be a Social Justice Warrior (subversive communist) above all else.
That's what's so disturbing. But also a kid who wanted to join the military, I think she must have some of the female macho thing going on there, and/or liked the benefits. Also a deep interest in other cultures. My own daughter studied Farsi. Nothing wrong with enjoying the middle eastern cultures (aside from the nutty jihadism). Btw one of the most offensive things about her is the snarky "Have you even met an Iranian" to Trump. Obviously she has, and she is assuming none of us on the Trump side ever has met anyone from the middle east, I guess because we are all deplorable, racist, zenophobic, homophobic hillbillies who never left the farm. What that comment told me loud and clear is that it is SHE not Trump who has never met an Iranian who was tortured under the current regime. Apparently the Iranians she knows are the counterpart to herself: young idiots watching too much social media.
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The thing about her is she had posted comments about supporting Edward Snowden as well as a lot of hatred toward Trump on social media. These should be red flags that she may be tempted to compromise security, but then most of that was after she had already been vetted and hired. She has a patriotic record with the military and no record of any wrongdoing prior to this.
Several things here convince me that she is very naive. I would say "stupid" but likely she has a very high IQ, but she did a lot of stupid things. First, thinking she could get away with printing out the reports. Even I know how to put spyware on machines to record every single thing you do. If the NSA is NOT 100% monitoring it's employees and contractors I would be very surprised and disappointed, and I would be very disappointed in an employee or contractor of theirs not assuming they were being monitored in this way. (Maybe it's one of those things a young person hasn't BTDT yet.)
Secondly, she spilled her guts without legal representation. WTF?? She confessed everything right off the bat. Either deep naivete, stupidity, unfamiliarity with the system, or it's a deliberate mission for some unimaginable reason. OR, just believing the rules don't apply to her, being another spoiled, misinformed millennial who consumed so much CNN that she truly thinks the whole world agrees with her that Trump is illegitimate and she would be a hero for trying to bring him down. She's half right about that - no doubt the left WILL completely lionize her for this. But trust me there are still enough FBI and NSA folks around on the other side to do her in. I hope they give her the max and send a clear message to the rest of the 4 million people with top secret clearances.
You are witnessing what control of our education system and what the MSM has done to a generation. Of course she feels like what she has done is righteous and that she should be labeled a "hero".
This is why the liberal progressives are in a mouth foaming fury over losing the WH and Congress. They had eight years of an ideological liberal progressive in the top position driving their agenda and had their hopes on eight more years of another far left President to complete the "fundamental transformation" that was promised to them.
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http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/folks-youre-missing-point-leaker-reality-winner
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You are witnessing what control of our education system and what the MSM has done to a generation. Of course she feels like what she has done is righteous and that she should be labeled a "hero".
This is why the liberal progressives are in a mouth foaming fury over losing the WH and Congress. They had eight years of an ideological liberal progressive in the top position driving their agenda and had their hopes on eight more years of another far left President to complete the "fundamental transformation" that was promised to them.
You're correct. They totally were caught off guard by an America not yet embracing Euro style communism, and wanted what is best for our country, and not our enemies. Obama was their wet dream come true, and Hillary was to take them over the goal line. Didn't happen.
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Hilary Clinton would have been (had she managed to steal another election) the last American President. Either the country would have become insolvent and gone the way of the USSR, or something even worse.
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Hello good people of pilotspin! There is no intro forum which is ok with me, so I'll just get things started here. I'm a pilot(duh), and have been for decades. I fly a small SE prop plane around the US mostly. Look forward to engaging in lively comms with all of you.
Here's where the media doesn't tell you want you need to know.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/06/07/accused-nsa-leaker-reality-winners-motives-mystery-at-least-to-abc-nbc-and-cbs.html
Mainstream media can't seem to figure out that Winner is an alt-left radical socialist, motivated to bring down Trump any way she can.
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Mainstream media can't seem to figure out that Winner is an alt-left radical socialist, motivated to bring down Trump any way she can.
Welcome!!! Yes, the mainstream media ignores A LOT of facts to forward their progressive (communist) agenda.
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Than you. If you fly a Grumman, you're all right by me. I was a long time owner/op of a 75 AA5. One of the best planes I had, but didn't do short or rough fields well, so I changed to something a bit more rough and tumble.
Some call it nuance, some call it fake news, some call it spin(lolz), some call it bias. All I can say is if the ABC empire can't find out what motivates a socialist alt-left radical, should they really be calling themselves a news organization? CNN finally came through with some of her social media stuff, but it was down in para 12 or so, with a short vid of her parents saying 'what a nice girl she is, and we are so proud, she's not political'. Yeah - mom, suuuuuuuuuure.
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^^^^^Thanks. I had a 1978 Grumman AA5B for over 15 years, which I sold not too long ago. It was a great plane, and I had it all over the continental U.S. for many adventures. Did a good bit of mountain flying too when I lived in Colorado. That was FUN.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4586680/Reality-Winner-wanted-burn-White-House-down.html
The prosecution stated that Winner had a fascination with the Middle East and Islamic terrorism. The government claimed that they had found handwritten notes during a search at Winner's home which appeared to sympathize with Osama bin Laden and other terrorists.
Authorities claim another handwritten statement found during a search of Winner’s home allegedly read: ‘I want to burn the White House down and go live in Kurdistan.’
Prosecutors said in recorded jailhouse calls that Winner told her mother how to play her side of the story in the media.
They also said in a phone call she made to her sister that she was confident in how to 'play the court' during her bond hearing.
'I'm pretty, white and cute,' she allegedly told her sister. Prosecutors said Winner told her sister she would braid her hair and cry in court.
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You can't make this shit up............
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/06/09/rosie-odonnell-reality-winner-is-brave-young-patriot-gives-her-1000.html#