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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on October 11, 2022, 06:34:06 AM

Title: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Lucifer on October 11, 2022, 06:34:06 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tulsi-gabbard-leaves-democratic-party-denounces-elitist-cabal

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Former Democratic presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard announced she left the Democratic Party on Tuesday, denouncing the organization as an "elitist cabal."

Gabbard, who retired from the House of Representatives in 2021, attacked the institution in a nearly 30-minute video posted to her YouTube account. She did not announce plans to join the Republican Party or adopt any other political affiliation, however.

"I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue & stoke anti-white racism," Gabbard said in an excerpt posted to Twitter.

She went on to call on other moderate Democrats to follow in her footsteps.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Anthony on October 11, 2022, 06:37:02 AM
Good for her. I hope this is a trend.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Number7 on October 11, 2022, 06:41:34 AM
Cue the criminals from the fbi assaulting her in her home, including pointing machine guns at her family, while STEALING her mobile phone, and trying on her underwear in five... four... three... two... one.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Anthony on October 11, 2022, 07:20:01 AM
Cue the criminals from the fbi assaulting her in her home, including pointing machine guns at her family, while STEALING her mobile phone, and trying on her underwear in five... four... three... two... one.

I'd like to get her out of her underwear, but she's a bit old for me.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on October 11, 2022, 08:41:40 AM
I’m sure she quit because she heard Anthony is temporarily off the market, and figured she needs to make her move now.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 11, 2022, 09:19:26 AM
I don’t trust her. At all.

https://gab.com/a/posts/109150321371679851

And here is her position on 2A.

Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on October 11, 2022, 09:25:09 AM
I don’t trust her. At all.

https://gab.com/a/posts/109150321371679851

And here is her position on 2A.
I’d like to hear her thoughts about 2A today. She seems to have had a reawakening with respect to democrat policies.  Listening to her on Tucker Carlson and I follow her on her Instagram page.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Rush on October 11, 2022, 10:03:03 AM
I heard some of her interview on whatever show is on AM radio these days while I drove in the car for ten minutes this morning.

He asked her very pointedly:  "Does this mean you are rejecting socialist policies?  After all you supported Bernie Sanders."

SHE DODGED IT but stated she has always been a classical liberal which means (she said):  "For individual freedom and the foundation of the Constitution".  She said some very "correct" stuff but completely avoided saying whether she still supports high taxes and wealth redistribution.  She made strong points about freedom of speech and the danger of censoring truth as well as how the Dems are corporatized and elitist and warmongering.

Something neither she nor her interviewer (which I think was Dan Bongino) clarified is the definition of "Classic Liberal".  Do you mean as in 1776?  Or 1960? 

Again he kept asking, "How will you vote?  Are you still going to vote Democrat?  Are we to assume you've become conservative, I assume not?"

She said she votes for the individual not the party and she said it in a roundabout way that avoided the question of how she will vote.

She said back when she first became a Democrat it was because the Dems were all inclusive and accepting of everyone and FOR THE COMMON WORKING MAN.  She said they are these things NO MORE.  But she did NOT come out and say that she has noticed that now MAGA is now for the common working man.  At least not the part I heard before I had to get out of the car.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 11, 2022, 10:05:26 AM
She did not say she is joining the Republican Party.  She'll be on Tucker tonight
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on October 11, 2022, 11:28:03 AM
She did not say she is joining the Republican Party.  She'll be on Tucker tonight
Tucker usually has thorough interviews, but he’s a little soft-handed with Tulsi.  But to be fair, his interviews with her over the past 9 months have been mostly focused on Ukraine, a not a general discussion on a variety of issues.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 11, 2022, 02:32:55 PM
Too soon?

 :)

https://lajolla.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-bikini-photos-cause-quite-a-stir/

Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on October 11, 2022, 02:40:19 PM
Too soon?

 :)

https://lajolla.com/news/tulsi-gabbard-bikini-photos-cause-quite-a-stir/
Never too soon!  But I don’t think those are pictures of her. No gray streak in her hair.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 12, 2022, 07:05:26 AM
These days it’s more difficult to say one thing and do another. We’ll see.

Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 12, 2022, 08:26:44 AM
Might as well throw it all on here.

https://gab.com/NeonRevolt/posts/109155856049638272
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Rush on October 12, 2022, 09:56:21 AM
These days it’s more difficult to say one thing and do another. We’ll see.

I’ll be interested to see if she evolves away from some of that.  Once she is no longer hanging around Democrats she might be exposed to other points of view.  It happened to Trump, he was pro-choice but changed his mind after he had a talk with I believe he said his daughter (?) she changed him around and he became pro-life.

For example, Democrats have no fucking clue how the economy works, like how minimum wage laws cause unemployment.  But once you start hanging around fiscal conservatives and libertarians you come across laissez faire economic material and maybe get edumacated.  One can hope.

However if she supported Bernie Sanders, she may be of the ilk such as Russell Brand, who seems to not grasp free market economics, but believes there is a way to deny private companies “too much profit” and redistribute wealth among the masses.  These types are opposed to today’s Democrat Party because it has become corporatized and corrupt and fascist - and way too woke - not because it has Marxist ideology which it does but doesn’t implement in its pure form; instead is just like any other tyrannical regime.  In other words, maybe they’re abandoning the party, but not the Marxist ideology.

The far left who have enough insight to recognize that the Democrat Party establishment today has become the very ruling elite their ideology opposes, can join the far right who also recognize the Establishment swamp as a ruling elite unconcerned with the common man.  The grassroots far left and far right share the same value.  The problem is their solutions are opposed.  The right believes a free market will lift everyone, perhaps not equally, but everyone will rise.  The left believes wealth should be redistributed to achieve equality of outcome (they are vague on how you’re supposed to achieve that without authoritarian power).

Thus the grassroots right and left are enemies even though they share a hatred of the ruling elite.  The question is:  Which side is Tulsi on?  Did Tulsi leave because instead of implementing socialism the Democrat government has become a plutocracy?  Or did she leave because she is moving away from the left’s claimed ideology? 

When she was asked point blank if she still was for socialism she dodged.  Dodged it well, said a lot of good stuff, but dodged nonetheless.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on October 12, 2022, 01:04:31 PM
I’ll be anxious to see what the conversion brings to Tulsi. One thing that strikes me is that in a deep blue state like HI, there is no upside for her to do this, torching the democrat party on the way out. She’s a woman without a country in a way.

I’m not naive that she will be conservative, but I agree with Mat Walsh that out of pretty every other democrat on the planet, she seems and sounds reasonable and sane. That alone makes her a standout.

George H W Bush. George Bush. Mitt Romney. Paul Ryan. All politicians I actively campaigned for, and who have so totally disappointed me that I can’t be more disgusted with them. Add in McConnell, Cheney, and others on the disgust scale.

I’d take a reasonable Tulsi that I could work with vs an ideologue or worse yet a permanent swamp creature.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Old Crow on October 12, 2022, 04:17:05 PM
Tulsi is coming to New Hampshire to help Bolduc's campaign against Senator Hassan.  I'll be interested to see how this works out.  From what polls I've seen Bolduc and Hassan are pretty close.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: jb1842 on October 12, 2022, 04:38:30 PM
I wonder if she is a double agent.....
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Lucifer on October 12, 2022, 04:45:05 PM
My opinion.

  At one time in this country we had moderate democrats, lots of them.  Many were fiscal conservatives.   Since the DNC turned the party over to the communist, the moderates have been silenced, and many quietly left.

  Next month we'll see just how big the walkaway democrats are.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Rush on October 12, 2022, 04:47:00 PM
My opinion.

  At one time in this country we had moderate democrats, lots of them.  Many were fiscal conservatives.   Since the DNC turned the party over to the communist, the moderates have been silenced, and many quietly left.

  Next month we'll see just how big the walkaway democrats are.

Today Styx said he's predicting the Senate will pick up 2 seats.  A couple weeks ago he was 50/50.  That's how the polls are shifting.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Lucifer on October 18, 2022, 05:35:34 AM
Before anyone gets their panties twisted up............it's HUMOR!


(https://i.imgur.com/ldeihGF.jpg)
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on October 18, 2022, 10:22:14 AM
But NOT humor, though it makes me smile, our girl Tulsi is campaigning for Kari Lake in AZ.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/tulsi-gabbard-campaign-maga-star-kari-lake?_amp=true
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Rush on October 18, 2022, 11:02:23 AM
But NOT humor, though it makes me smile, our girl Tulsi is campaigning for Kari Lake in AZ.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/tulsi-gabbard-campaign-maga-star-kari-lake?_amp=true

Wow, did you watch the video topping that article?  Independent women were 14 points in favor of Democrats just last month and now they are 18 points in favor of Republicans.

Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Number7 on October 18, 2022, 12:23:38 PM
Before anyone gets their panties twisted up............it's HUMOR!


(https://i.imgur.com/ldeihGF.jpg)

I’d trade lizzy cheney for a spark plug and a breath mint.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: texasag93 on October 18, 2022, 03:44:33 PM
I’d trade lizzy cheney for a dead spark plug and a used breath mint from Tulsi.

 ;D
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Rush on October 19, 2022, 08:31:02 AM
Okay I'm going to just admit it.  I am a clanker (somebody who follows Styxhexenhammer666) and now I trust him more than about anybody else for news analysis.  I don't necessarily agree with him on every little thing but I find most of his viewpoints more plausible than not.  And here is a great example.  I think he's probably pretty much nailed where she is coming from.

https://rumble.com/v1oojb3-tulsi-gabbard-is-acting-sus.html
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on October 19, 2022, 09:02:10 AM
Okay I'm going to just admit it.  I am a clanker (somebody who follows Styxhexenhammer666) and now I trust him more than about anybody else for news analysis.  I don't necessarily agree with him on every little thing but I find most of his viewpoints more plausible than not.  And here is a great example.  I think he's probably pretty much nailed where she is coming from.

https://rumble.com/v1oojb3-tulsi-gabbard-is-acting-sus.html

Agreed. Great analysis.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on October 19, 2022, 03:12:12 PM
Agreed. Great analysis.
I think in general I agree. My concerns about 2A remain, but campaigning for Kari Lake is a nice start for walking the walk.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Anthony on October 19, 2022, 04:44:06 PM
I think in general I agree. My concerns about 2A remain, but campaigning for Kari Lake is a nice start for walking the walk.

That's my concern.  When it comes to 2A I'm a one issue voter. Nobody fucks with my God given rights. Especially that one.

But, yeah, step in the right direction.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on November 01, 2022, 03:59:02 PM
Thought I'd drop this here....
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Rush on November 01, 2022, 05:26:55 PM
Thought I'd drop this here....

That’s great rhetoric but how will she vote on say for example red flag laws?
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on November 01, 2022, 10:39:19 PM
That’s great rhetoric but how will she vote on say for example red flag laws?
That quote is a big step in the right direction. Red flag laws and virtually all gun laws run counter to the. 2A.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Jim Logajan on November 02, 2022, 12:43:05 AM
Saw a TV ad this evening with Tulsi endorsing Kristi Noem.
Found this news item on it:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-defector-tulsi-gabbard-films-ad-republican-kristi-noem-final-midterm-push (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-defector-tulsi-gabbard-films-ad-republican-kristi-noem-final-midterm-push)

There is a pollster out of Sioux Falls SDSU who has been claiming the race is tight between Noem and challenger Smith. Bogus as hell but the news stations are loving it since it turns a boring election into a nail biter. I’m assuming Noem thinks the “close race” story plays to her hand since she is running like she is barely ahead. Hence the Gabbard endorsement where it is not needed.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Anthony on November 02, 2022, 02:32:24 AM
That quote is a big step in the right direction. Red flag laws and virtually all gun laws run counter to the. 2A.

Any gun law besides the 2A is unconstitutional and illegal if it places any requirements or restrictions on our natural right.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 02, 2022, 04:22:13 AM
Saw a TV ad this evening with Tulsi endorsing Kristi Noem.
Found this news item on it:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-defector-tulsi-gabbard-films-ad-republican-kristi-noem-final-midterm-push (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-defector-tulsi-gabbard-films-ad-republican-kristi-noem-final-midterm-push)

There is a pollster out of Sioux Falls SDSU who has been claiming the race is tight between Noem and challenger Smith. Bogus as hell but the news stations are loving it since it turns a boring election into a nail biter. I’m assuming Noem thinks the “close race” story plays to her hand since she is running like she is barely ahead. Hence the Gabbard endorsement where it is not needed.

The pattern around the world now is to promote the idea that all races are squeakers. Makes it easier to “hide” and complete the steal.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: nddons on November 02, 2022, 07:08:58 AM
The pattern around the world now is to promote the idea that all races are squeakers. Makes it easier to “hide” and complete the steal.
With the supposed red wave, in a “normal” year I would be feeling much better and though I always vote, some would not.

I’m hoping that with the shenanigans of 2020 pretty fresh in conservatives’ minds, we will all turn out like our lives depend on it - because it does.
Title: Re: Tulsi calls it quits
Post by: Rush on November 02, 2022, 07:29:20 AM
With the supposed red wave, in a “normal” year I would be feeling much better and though I always vote, some would not.

I’m hoping that with the shenanigans of 2020 pretty fresh in conservatives’ minds, we will all turn out like our lives depend on it - because it does.

YES!  I think it will, no doubt I’m not the only one still massively traumatized and PISSED about 2020.  We have already heard about Republicans watching drop boxes (and being attacked for it).  I’m sure there are hidden cameras set up and all kinds of eyes on them this time around.  Won’t stop the Dems from trying but I’m hoping they won’t succeed.  Possibly the turnout will be so overwhelming they can’t cheat their way around it.