PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on September 14, 2019, 06:59:43 AM

Title: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Rush on September 14, 2019, 06:59:43 AM
I know there is a thread on this but I can’t find it. So here’s a new thread. Lehtos did a video on it.

TLDW: He thinks it’s horrible and will send the wrong message. But even though the prosecutor won’t prosecute, victims can still sue. Store owners should post that shoplifters will be sued in court.

Steve thinks this won’t stand because it’s so bad. He made this video in April. I don’t know if there’s been an update since then. I hope the DA has rescinded that policy.

In trying to find that answer I discovered to my horror that there are forums out there where people teach each other how to get away with shoplifting. I guess I believe in Satan again because this is evil alive and well.

Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on September 14, 2019, 08:10:00 AM
And there is the Suffolk County DA (Massachusetts) that published a list of crimes "her" office won't prosecute.

On top of that nonsense, people are playing the gender (and race) card because some have the temerity to criticize her.

Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Anthony on September 14, 2019, 08:50:32 AM
It's because these big city Democrat DA's believe that Black and Brown people are incarcerated too much.  As the former Mayor of Baltimore said, "Let them loot.  It's only property."
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Little Joe on September 14, 2019, 09:56:16 AM
It's because these big city Democrat DA's believe that Black and Brown people are incarcerated too much.  As the former Mayor of Baltimore said, "Let them loot.  It's only property."
What we need are more white criminals.  So here is my plan.

We create a welfare program for whites only.  If white people are working less than full time and making minimum wage, we give them foodstamps, and low cost housing and pay them to have kids, but only if they are not married.  But if they ever go to full time, or get a raise, they lose their benefits.  This will encourage white people not to seek gainful employment or to attempt to better themselves.  But they will still want their iphones and beer and vapes so they will resort to crime.  Also, their kids that are raised in poverty will also most likely engage in crime.  Then we arrest and incarcerate them and we will even out the discrepancy in the prison population.

I think it is foolproof, but there is something about it that just doesn't sound right to me.

Maybe it is that we are already doing all of that.
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Rush on September 14, 2019, 10:11:29 AM
What we need are more white criminals.  So here is my plan.

We create a welfare program for whites only.  If white people are working less than full time and making minimum wage, we give them foodstamps, and low cost housing and pay them to have kids, but only if they are not married.  But if they ever go to full time, or get a raise, they lose their benefits.  This will encourage white people not to seek gainful employment or to attempt to better themselves.  But they will still want their iphones and beer and vapes so they will resort to crime.  Also, their kids that are raised in poverty will also most likely engage in crime.  Then we arrest and incarcerate them and we will even out the discrepancy in the prison population.

I think it is foolproof, but there is something about it that just doesn't sound right to me.

Maybe it is that we are already doing all of that.

Where you messed up is saying they need to commit crime to get iPhones. The government now includes that with welfare.
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: nddons on September 16, 2019, 11:38:43 AM
It's because these big city Democrat DA's believe that Black and Brown people are incarcerated too much.  As the former Mayor of Baltimore said, "Let them loot.  It's only property."
In Wisconsin last week there was a story of a local convenience store in a poor area that has been repeatedly attacked by a mob of young black people who run in, steal whatever they can carry, including cases of merchandise not yet put on the shelves, and run before anything can be done. There’s usually a courteous fellow robber who holds the door for the thiefs.  The poor owner, and Indian, has been attacked once when he tried to stop the carnage, so he no longer fights back. However, whenever this happens he’s usually out $1,500 or more, and doesn’t know how much longer he can keep the store in business.

The news story has security camera video footage of these attacks.

Lawless, Godless criminals.  They don’t care of the damage they cause, or the island they are creating by having yet another small business leave their community.

Filth.
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Rush on September 16, 2019, 12:07:13 PM
In Wisconsin last week there was a story of a local convenience store in a poor area that has been repeatedly attacked by a mob of young black people who run in, steal whatever they can carry, including cases of merchandise not yet put on the shelves, and run before anything can be done. There’s usually a courteous fellow robber who holds the door for the thiefs.  The poor owner, and Indian, has been attacked once when he tried to stop the carnage, so he no longer fights back. However, whenever this happens he’s usually out $1,500 or more, and doesn’t know how much longer he can keep the store in business.

The news story has security camera video footage of these attacks.

Lawless, Godless criminals.  They don’t care of the damage they cause, or the island they are creating by having yet another small business leave their community.

Filth.

Too bad that’s not in Texas where you can shoot someone who is “just” stealing your stuff.
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Anthony on September 16, 2019, 12:20:10 PM
In Wisconsin last week there was a story of a local convenience store in a poor area that has been repeatedly attacked by a mob of young black people who run in, steal whatever they can carry, including cases of merchandise not yet put on the shelves, and run before anything can be done. There’s usually a courteous fellow robber who holds the door for the thiefs.  The poor owner, and Indian, has been attacked once when he tried to stop the carnage, so he no longer fights back. However, whenever this happens he’s usually out $1,500 or more, and doesn’t know how much longer he can keep the store in business.

The news story has security camera video footage of these attacks.

Lawless, Godless criminals.  They don’t care of the damage they cause, or the island they are creating by having yet another small business leave their community.

Filth.

Can't business owners defend themselves with a firearm when attacked and looted in Wisconsin.  One sign of a gun, and those punks would never return. 
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: nddons on September 16, 2019, 12:26:45 PM
Can't business owners defend themselves with a firearm when attacked and looted in Wisconsin.  One sign of a gun, and those punks would never return.
They aren’t flashing guns as far as I know. They bum rush the store, perhaps 10-15 of them, take what they can grab, and run out.

As most CCW holders know, you can’t use lethal force unless you feel threatened with death or bodily harm.

Protecting property with lethal force is a recipe for a long prison sentence or being sued out of existence.
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Anthony on September 16, 2019, 12:32:28 PM
They aren’t flashing guns as far as I know. They bum rush the store, perhaps 10-15 of them, take what they can grab, and run out.

As most CCW holders know, you can’t use lethal force unless you feel threatened with death or bodily harm.

Protecting property with lethal force is a recipe for a long prison sentence or being sued out of existence.

You said he "was attacked once".  I don't know Wisconsin law, but in PA you can use deadly force when someone physically attacks you.  I guarantee the attackers are young, strong Black men and the store owner is anything but.  Certainly disparity of force from a bodily threatening mob.

At the very least he could use pepper spray or Wasp spray as a deterrent.   
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: nddons on September 16, 2019, 12:39:42 PM
You said he "was attacked once".  I don't know Wisconsin law, but in PA you can use deadly force when someone physically attacks you.  I guarantee the attackers are young, strong Black men and the store owner is anything but.  Certainly disparity of force from a bodily threatening mob.

At the very least he could use pepper spray or Wasp spray as a deterrent.
He once tried to get in between the punks and the door. Got pummeled for the effort. In subsequent crimes, he just stands out of the way and presumably calls the police. So for these subsequent crimes, I don’t think he was physically threatened with imminent bodily harm. Of course I don’t know for sure.

In the interview with the TV station I would guess the owner couldn’t weigh a buck and a quarter soaking wet.
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Username on September 16, 2019, 01:34:42 PM
And what would the robbers do with three bottles of dish soap and a nutterbutter?  This is more for the "excitement" than for the loot.
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Rush on September 16, 2019, 03:37:53 PM
They aren’t flashing guns as far as I know. They bum rush the store, perhaps 10-15 of them, take what they can grab, and run out.

As most CCW holders know, you can’t use lethal force unless you feel threatened with death or bodily harm.

Protecting property with lethal force is a recipe for a long prison sentence or being sued out of existence.

Not in Texas. You can protect property with lethal force as God intended.
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Anthony on September 16, 2019, 03:39:21 PM
He once tried to get in between the punks and the door. Got pummeled for the effort. In subsequent crimes, he just stands out of the way and presumably calls the police. So for these subsequent crimes, I don’t think he was physically threatened with imminent bodily harm. Of course I don’t know for sure.

In the interview with the TV station I would guess the owner couldn’t weigh a buck and a quarter soaking wet.

That sucks.  Nobody should be subjected to that. 
Title: Re: Shoplifting in Dallas won’t be prosecuted under $750
Post by: Rush on September 16, 2019, 03:55:22 PM
Hopefully someone is working behind the scenes with those videotapes to ID the perps. I don’t hold much hope. This might be a case where social media could help, spread the video around and whip up sympathy for the store owner, maybe they will get turned in.