PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: invflatspin on November 06, 2018, 04:51:07 PM
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IN senate already called for Rep, only 2% of the vote in!
This is a no ranting thread. Just the facts(haha, facts be damned! opinions welcome).
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Not sure how, but SC governor is already being called for Rep by Fox.
https://www.foxnews.com/midterms-2018/gubernatorial
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Oh lord help me. What time is Tucker Carlson? I guess I better put Fox on and go find some..... let's see what have we here?
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I’ll get the screenshots of Rush’s drunken posts! 🙂
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Bernie Sanders won!
Shocking!
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Senate showing a lot of blue on the eastern seaboard. All incumbents doing as expected.
Looking more and more like IN is going to flip to R.
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Suddenly DeSantis is catching up in Florida.
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Flipping FL would make the lib heads asplode.
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I had Foxnews on, but I'm tired of them trying to over analyze everything. And I don't give a shit what their "panelist" think or pontificate about. Just show the fuckin' results.
Turned them off, I'll just track several internet sites instead.
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Now DeSantis has move over slightly ahead.
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Ruh-roh, TX is trending left.
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Now DeSantis has move over slightly ahead.
That's because the heavy liberal counties are in, and now the red counties are reporting.
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Ruh-roh, TX is trending left.
The liberal strongholds (Houston, DFW and Austin) are coming in first. Once the outlying counties start reporting it will slew red.
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Gillum and Nelson will be defeated.
The dims are now scouring Dade and Broward trying to find votes in car trunks or closets.
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How are results compared to the expected polls? Are Dems doing stronger than expected? Stronger Republican turnout than expected? Seems too early to tell yet.
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As one who pays little attention to polls, doesn't really matter to me. I haven't trusted any polling org since 2016.
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FL, IN, MI, and ND may all flip in the senate. Still early but FL and IN look pretty solid for a flip.
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... I don't give a shit what their "panelist" think or pontificate about. Just show the fuckin' results.
Are you my wife?
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Fox called the Wisconsin Senate race for the incumbent liberal lesbian democrat Tammy Baldwin without any numbers showing.
I’m hoping Fox will have to choke on some of these early calls. They did that 2 years ago if I recall.
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What’s with Texas? We can’t be going into 2020 with a blue Texas ....
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Fox called the Wisconsin Senate race for the incumbent liberal lesbian democrat Tammy Baldwin without any numbers showing.
I’m hoping Fox will have to choke on some of these early calls. They did that 2 years ago if I recall.
Isn't that weird? I'm wondering if some of this is done by computer projection or if there's the hand of man involved? right now only 1% in and showing the R guy at 58.1%. I'm sure it will change as we go along.
TX still showing flipped for senate. Cruz is an asswipe, but he's kinda our asswipe.
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IN a confirmed flip for Rep senator!FL still too close.
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NBC has reduced that likelihood of Congress flipping from 88% to 57%.
I wonder what they are using for data.
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Interesting results so far.
If Gillum and Nelson both fail in FL, as it appears is not just possible but likely that is a good indicator - still lots to go though.
'Gimp
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NBC has reduced that likelihood of Congress flipping from 88% to 57%.
I wonder what they are using for data.
Go back to 2016 when Silver started the night saying Felonious had a 90% chance of winning. As the night progressed, that number fell. We're seeing the same thing here.
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Fox just predicted Dem's will take the House but not making specifics.
That is terrible news if it plays out that way.
'Gimp
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Fox just predicted Dem's will take the House but not making specifics.
That is terrible news if it plays out that way.
'Gimp
I want to hurl.
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Sure is sad that so many Republican House Members decide to take their ball and go home after Trump won - I suspect that this has had a large impact.
Quitters
'Gimp
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As one who pays little attention to polls, doesn't really matter to me. I haven't trusted any polling org since 2016.
Indicative of the outcome. If candidates on one side or the other are polling stronger than expected, you can infer other races.
Right now it looks like republicans are polling stronger. Thus far, Democrats have only won a few of the toss up House seats. They are only +3 on the count.
A Blue whimper.
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ND senate is a confirmed flip to R.
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Won't be hanging, my second cataract surgery is on the morning. Hope y'all have fun.
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Just read an exit poll headline "56% Say Country is on Wrong Track".....
So I guess a booming economy, prosperity and putting our country first just doesn't seem to be what some want. Amazing.
There are actually people who want to return to the Obama Failure Years.
Simply amazing.
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Looks like Paul Ryan may well get his wish.
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Just read an exit poll headline "56% Say Country is on Wrong Track".....
So I guess a booming economy, prosperity and putting our country first just doesn't seem to be what some want. Amazing.
There are actually people who want to return to the Obama Failure Years.
Simply amazing.
The foundational issue with this particular issue (right track/wrong track) is that it can be interpreted many ways - could be that half of the 56% think that the country is not heading far enough right - I really don't think this one means what it is commonly interpreted to mean.
'Gimp
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The foundational issue with this particular issue (right track/wrong track) is that it can be interpreted many ways - could be that half of the 56% think that the country is not heading far enough right - I really don't think this one means what it is commonly interpreted to mean.
'Gimp
Maybe I should have elaborated a bit more.
The way that came across the MSM was of course to make it appear voters are unhappy with the direction of the country, and long for the days of failure and stagnation of BHO.
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AZ senate is one I've been watching. McSally is looking good so far. Still very close.
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Cruz takes TX senate. Dems spent a lot of money in the state.
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Well, Drudge and ABC says it's already over.
Drudge has been chomping at the bits to see the dims take over.
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Looks like the senate will be a pickup of plus 5
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There are some of those D’s ... well, one maybe, who might actually work with Trump. Enough so that I don’t think impeachment will be on the table. Why would you impeach a President who is having success after success?
There I go being rational again.
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There are some of those D’s ... well, one maybe, who might actually work with Trump. Enough so that I don’t think impeachment will be on the table. Why would you impeach a President who is having success after success?
There I go being rational again.
Call me crazy, but I for one would welcome an impeachment decision from the HR. Go ahead, make my day. It'll be exposed as a complete partisan hack job, unlike Nixon. In fact, it won't be anything like Nixon who was actually guilty of high crimes.
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There are some of those D’s ... well, one maybe, who might actually work with Trump. Enough so that I don’t think impeachment will be on the table. Why would you impeach a President who is having success after success?
There I go being rational again.
You will see articles of impeachment drawn up and put on the floor by mid January. They know they don't have the senate votes to pull it off, but it will resist! Trump from getting anything productive done. Adam Shit will launch endless investigations, for the same purpose and to attempt to trash the President for 2020.
And we will have Maxine Waters chairing the financial committee. Let that sink in.
The dims will have to be absolutely bat shit crazy to give Pelosi the gavel.....and they'll do just that.
On the bright side, the judicial appointments will continue putting conservatives on the bench. We'll see a new AG shortly. Trump will have to get a bit creative in dealing with the house. And dealing with Adam Shit all he needs to do is start declassifying docs.
Gonna be interesting.
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Call me crazy, but I for one would welcome an impeachment decision from the HR. Go ahead, make my day. It'll be exposed as a complete partisan hack job, unlike Nixon. In fact, it won't be anything like Nixon who was actually guilty of high crimes.
Nixon was never impeached.
Bill Clinton was. And that's why the dims are so anxious to seek their revenge.
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Hawley takes Missouri beating McCaskill. GREAT!
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The Blue Wave has turned into a yellow trickle.
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Call me crazy, but I for one would welcome an impeachment decision from the HR. Go ahead, make my day. It'll be exposed as a complete partisan hack job, unlike Nixon. In fact, it won't be anything like Nixon who was actually guilty of high crimes.
If the Kavanaugh hack job didn’t dissuade enough voters to spread more red on the map tonight, you think an attempt to impeach will?
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You will see articles of impeachment drawn up and put on the floor by mid January. They know they don't have the senate votes to pull it off, but it will resist! Trump from getting anything productive done. Adam Shit will launch endless investigations, for the same purpose and to attempt to trash the President for 2020.
And we will have Maxine Waters chairing the financial committee. Let that sink in.
The dims will have to be absolutely bat shit crazy to give Pelosi the gavel.....and they'll do just that.
On the bright side, the judicial appointments will continue putting conservatives on the bench. We'll see a new AG shortly. Trump will have to get a bit creative in dealing with the house. And dealing with Adam Shit all he needs to do is start declassifying docs.
Gonna be interesting.
So, more of the same bizarre, anti-American, constipating political shit from the Dems for two years ... and after that, more of same. What will wake these people up?
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So, more of the same bizarre, anti-American, constipating political shit from the Dems for two years ... and after that, more of same. What will wake these people up?
As long as shit for brains democrats (communists) promise more free stuff paid for by Republicans, this is what you can expect.
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If the Kavanaugh hack job didn’t dissuade enough voters to spread more red on the map tonight, you think an attempt to impeach will?
Here's how I would handle it. Exactly opposite from Nixon. When the impeachment committee is opened up, Trump goes over there like an open book. He's a master at thinking on his feet, and working under live pressure. Give the committee everything they want, all of the time, every time. Open book, except for taxes, which are private.
Let them stew, find something, and make it stick. I want the HR to move everything they need to move, and then go ahead a vote it up. Get it done, and lets move on. Dems are gonna lose more seats.
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So, more of the same bizarre, anti-American, constipating political shit from the Dems for two years ... and after that, more of same. What will wake these people up?
I don't think it will be that bad. The dims will pass bill after bill to attempt to reverse what Trump has done so far, and the senate will either not act on it or vote it down.
I think the markets will take a hit knowing a Pelosi congress will stifle any more growth and prosperity.
The dims took several hits tonight. The Florida and Georgia governor races went bad for them. They lost 5 senate seats. Beto spent $80 million and lost. The elections that had the hollywierd elites backing them lost.
A pick up of 30 congress seats, while giving them a majority, is not a " blue wave" nor is it a "referendum on Trump".
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Looks like two gov are going blue. IL and WI. Not surprised about WI, Walker is a slick talking doof.
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Nelson will demand a recount.
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Pelosi just went full retard....
It's a good thing Trump is President, the next 2 years is going to make Pelosi's speakership vs. Bush look like Romper Room, but Trump will fight back.
Oh well, this is what the people asked for, I just hate it when I get the government that they deserve.
'Gimp
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Here's how I would handle it. Exactly opposite from Nixon. When the impeachment committee is opened up, Trump goes over there like an open book. He's a master at thinking on his feet, and working under live pressure. Give the committee everything they want, all of the time, every time. Open book, except for taxes, which are private.
Let them stew, find something, and make it stick. I want the HR to move everything they need to move, and then go ahead a vote it up. Get it done, and lets move on. Dems are gonna lose more seats.
Remember that Trump is to Dems what Hillary was to Repubs. The more Dems see Trump, the more they hate him. That will fire them up to vote against him.
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I don't think it will be that bad. The dims will pass bill after bill to attempt to reverse what Trump has done so far, and the senate will either not act on it or vote it down.
I think the markets will take a hit knowing a Pelosi congress will stifle any more growth and prosperity.
The dims took several hits tonight. The Florida and Georgia governor races went bad for them. They lost 5 senate seats. Beto spent $80 million and lost. The elections that had the hollywierd elites backing them lost.
A pick up of 30 congress seats, while giving them a majority, is not a " blue wave" nor is it a "referendum on Trump".
It feels like a wave and a referendum to me. I guess I hoped for too much MAGA too soon.
And haven’t you heard? Beto is a winner! He’ll be their next O.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/reuters-declares-beto-orourke-a-big-winner-regardless-of-election-day-outcome.amp?__twitter_impression=true
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Remember that Trump is to Dems what Hillary was to Repubs. The more Dems see Trump, the more they hate him. That will fire them up to vote against him.
Of course they'll vote against him. Nothing of substance matters. It's all partisan. Feed the hate, expose it, revel in it. Once it gets to the senate, the feces will hit the air moving device in a big way. There is NO basis for an impeachment, and it'll be obvious. All the Dems want is to play to the base.
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Of course they'll vote against him. Nothing of substance matters. It's all partisan. Feed the hate, expose it, revel in it. Once it gets to the senate, the feces will hit the air moving device in a big way. There is NO basis for an impeachment, and it'll be obvious. All the Dems want is to play to the base.
I meant that more Dems of the citizenry will vote against him in 2020. You know every attempt will be made to parade Trump around and make him look bad, and I would hate to see a loooong impeachment debacle even if not successful. The Dems are all about media and optics.
Lord, I don’t know why Trump subjects himself to this.
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Found this on another forum ...
“It does look like the most prominent ANTI-KAVANAUGH Dems are all GONE ! And the single PRO-KAVANAUGH Dem remains.
Second, we have a solid majority of Senators now, and traitors Flake and McCain will not be missed !
Third, Dem "Superstars" Beto and Gillum are dead.
Fourth, yes, the House is Dem. Since when was it on Trump's side anyways ? No loss.”
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Texas had one house seat flip. It was the 7th district. FEC reports that the Dems spent > $3 million and with 97% reporting, have 123,596 votes. Price per vote of: $24.27.
The Reps spent $1.852 million and have 113,419 votes. Price per vote of: $16.33. The Rep candidate was the incumbent, and he did NOT seek an endorsement from Trump. Trump didn't campaign for him, and there was never any election campaign support FOR Trump by the congressman. Looks like his lack of support cost us all a seat.
Campaign Dems outspent Rep in the district by 49%. It was a target the Dems were working hard for. The Rep candidate is an old white guy. New person is a much younger white woman with a degree in History from a no-name school.
What a complete fuck-up. Maybe it's a good thing he's gone.
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While I am disappointed with the apparent result in the House this has actually been pretty historic.
If we consider the first Midterm to be a referendum on the President, Trump appears to have done substantially better than Clinton or Obama who each lost something like 50-60 seats in the House in their first midterm (looks like this will settle between 25-30), and GAINED I believe 5 seats in the Senate which now makes Collins and Murkowski irrelevant, especially with Flake, Corker and McCain no longer in the way. And this in an election that by all appearances enjoyed truly historic turnout, by the look of it on both sides.
Because Pelosi and the House Dem's are, I believe, incapable of compromise or good behavior, Trump will, I predict, play them like a fiddle and get them to go apoplectic, on TV, basically every day or two, for the next two years and they will see the same level of punishment for their lack of fairness that ALL of the Democrat Senators who participated in the Kavanaugh assault and who were up for re-election received today (ALL were defeated).
That said, I think it is time to clearly call out the abject failure that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell have been with respect to faithfully executing the President's agenda (although Mr. Turtle has been coming around) - this failure to repeal and replace Obamacare, WHEN THEY HELD ALL THE POWER gave the Dem's the only positive campaign issue they had which resonated for House voters, healthcare - there is a special ring in Hell for people who betray like that (currently occupied by one John McCain).
I also place a substantial amount of the blame at the feet of again Paul Ryan, and the other Republican Congresscritters who let their Never-Trump-Derangement Syndrome drive them to 'retire', this created name-recognition vacuums that the Dem's exploited by running candidates who easily espoused positions that sound middle-of-the-road enough to get elected in red and purple districts - real question is how effective will Trump and the Republicans be at pointing out what I expect to be large discrepancies between their actual voting records vs. campaign positions in 2 years.
Trump too shares some blame - he focused on saving the Senate which was a pragmatic thing to do, but in doing so failed to talk up the economy enough to have that 'how are you doing now vs 2 years ago' moment that I think would have floated more Republican House members.
All in all, looks to be a below average change in terms of Gubernatorial, State Houses, House and Senate - and that should be some cause for celebration. The Dem's are still at a historically low overall level of power across elected government at all levels - thanks Obama.
I will only be worried if Pelosi reigns in the whackadoodle brigade (Maxine Waters, Gerald Nadler, and the like) and puts apparent 'moderates' or younger Rep's into Chairmanships - Waters is the gift that keeps on giving, I want her front and freakin' center for the next 2 years. It will suck on a day-to-day basis but will ensure a massive victory in 2020.
In the end, Trump it would appear, is far less a polarizing or damaging element for his party than Obama was - and I can certainly take some comfort in that.
'Gimp
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I would bet the Articles of Impeachment have already been drafted.
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Trump was right, people don't want to win. They just want a participation trophy. Gak, I think I'm gonna hurl.
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I live in a far western suburb of Philly. Used to be rural, then somewhat rural, now it has become suburbia with the expected change in Demographics. Once solidly Republican, not long ago, it is now solidly Democrat. All the Commie, anti gun, far left progressive Democrat women WON, beating incumbent Republicans. They ALL used the same talking points, and bombarded the airwaves, mail, and door to door. They must have had multiple millions from out of state to finance these campaigns. I know Bloomberg, and Soros orgs funded them. I've never seen anything like it.
People are idiots, even when things are going well. They vote the way the Media tells them. We are f*cked.
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While I am disappointed with the apparent result in the House this has actually been pretty historic.
If we consider the first Midterm to be a referendum on the President, Trump appears to have done substantially better than Clinton or Obama who each lost something like 50-60 seats in the House in their first midterm (looks like this will settle between 25-30), and GAINED I believe 5 seats in the Senate which now makes Collins and Murkowski irrelevant, especially with Flake, Corker and McCain no longer in the way. And this in an election that by all appearances enjoyed truly historic turnout, by the look of it on both sides.
Because Pelosi and the House Dem's are, I believe, incapable of compromise or good behavior, Trump will, I predict, play them like a fiddle and get them to go apoplectic, on TV, basically every day or two, for the next two years and they will see the same level of punishment for their lack of fairness that ALL of the Democrat Senators who participated in the Kavanaugh assault and who were up for re-election received today (ALL were defeated).
That said, I think it is time to clearly call out the abject failure that Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell have been with respect to faithfully executing the President's agenda (although Mr. Turtle has been coming around) - this failure to repeal and replace Obamacare, WHEN THEY HELD ALL THE POWER gave the Dem's the only positive campaign issue they had which resonated for House voters, healthcare - there is a special ring in Hell for people who betray like that (currently occupied by one John McCain).
I also place a substantial amount of the blame at the feet of again Paul Ryan, and the other Republican Congresscritters who let their Never-Trump-Derangement Syndrome drive them to 'retire', this created name-recognition vacuums that the Dem's exploited by running candidates who easily espoused positions that sound middle-of-the-road enough to get elected in red and purple districts - real question is how effective will Trump and the Republicans be at pointing out what I expect to be large discrepancies between their actual voting records vs. campaign positions in 2 years.
Trump too shares some blame - he focused on saving the Senate which was a pragmatic thing to do, but in doing so failed to talk up the economy enough to have that 'how are you doing now vs 2 years ago' moment that I think would have floated more Republican House members.
All in all, looks to be a below average change in terms of Gubernatorial, State Houses, House and Senate - and that should be some cause for celebration. The Dem's are still at a historically low overall level of power across elected government at all levels - thanks Obama.
I will only be worried if Pelosi reigns in the whackadoodle brigade (Maxine Waters, Gerald Nadler, and the like) and puts apparent 'moderates' or younger Rep's into Chairmanships - Waters is the gift that keeps on giving, I want her front and freakin' center for the next 2 years. It will suck on a day-to-day basis but will ensure a massive victory in 2020.
In the end, Trump it would appear, is far less a polarizing or damaging element for his party than Obama was - and I can certainly take some comfort in that.
'Gimp
A great assessment to wake up this morning. The problem with counting on bad Dem optics is that Dems, unless something pegs the needle like Kavanaugh, typically DON’T SEE THEIR PARTY IN A BAD LIGHT EVER because of the fake/spin news media. WalkAway shows that some do, and in fact their testimonials show a surprising determination to broaden their perspectives, but most do not. If they did, we wouldn’t see such narrow victories for Rs ... voters would be RUNNING away from the Dems, who are, it seems, all about power and nothing about truly serving the people.
So if they do put forth young, ethnically blended, sharp-looking dudes and dudettes like Beto and Octavio-Cortes, and train them to act like moderates, DEMS WILL SWOON, and I put before you the proof of this with the closeness of the vote in Texas. Beto has “it,” and the hair, duds, edginess and slick talk like O. They won’t let him fade away.
I wouldn’t think someone would have to ask me if I was better off than I was two years ago, I would notice it myself. But that is the problem. We seem to somehow spawned a citizenry that votes for the colors, like a sports team, and not for substance.
I see Anthony’s post ... yes, I’d say we are definitely screwed. Technology allows precision targeting to play the electoral system, and the Dems are doing it. It’s easy to see how they can play it in 2020 by focusing on certain counties and districts.
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Won't be hanging, my second cataract surgery is on the morning. Hope y'all have fun.
Good luck!!!
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It feels like a wave and a referendum to me. I guess I hoped for too much MAGA too soon.
And haven’t you heard? Beto is a winner! He’ll be their next O.
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/reuters-declares-beto-orourke-a-big-winner-regardless-of-election-day-outcome.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Yep, they spent $80million trying to get this guy elected and failed. So now he is their hero and the chatter is to run him in 2020 for President. And why? Uh, he looks like a Kennedy!
A fake Hispanic, so fake that the House Hispanic caucus refused to admit him. Yet he continued his campaign pretending to be Hispanic, even focusing on his "nickname" Beto, which was later revealed he never actually went by.
Maybe his running mate will be Racheal Dolezel.
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At least the candidates promoted by Hollywood celebrities like Oprah, and Taylor Swift ALL LOST!!! Shows how pathetic they really are.
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At least the candidates promoted by Hollywood celebrities like Oprah, and Taylor Swift ALL LOST!!! Shows how pathetic they really are.
Yep. The Hollyweird elites prove once again how irrelevant they actually are when it comes to politics.
And a big thank you to Taylor Swift for her first foray into politics! Thanks for helping get Blackburn into the senate!
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Now, if the dims are really serious about taking back power beyond the house, they can get started now by defeating Pelosi for speaker and putting someone moderate into that seat, preferably from the flyover states. They could also inject new blood into the committee chairs and actually work for positive change.
They could, but they won't.
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And a big thank you to Taylor Swift for her first foray into politics! Thanks for helping get Blackburn into the senate!
I'm not a big fan of Marsha Blackburn, but no way was I voting for Bredesen. Glad to see Dean defeated as well.
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Now, if the dims are really serious about taking back power beyond the house, they can get started now by defeating Pelosi for speaker and putting someone moderate into that seat, preferably from the flyover states. They could also inject new blood into the committee chairs and actually work for positive change.
They could, but they won't.
Or they will put someone even worse in the speaker chair.
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I'm not a big fan of Marsha Blackburn, but no way was I voting for Bredesen. Glad to see Dean defeated as well.
Agreed.
Tennessee is a red state. The dims had high hopes of their "blue wave" turning it blue. They were actually doing well until little Taylor decided to jump in.
Taylor, stick to music and entertaining 13 year old girls.
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Or they will put someone even worse in the speaker chair.
Pelosi is very polarizing, even in her own party. Plus, she is having very obvious mental problems that are only going to get progressively worse. She was unfit to serve as Speaker last time around and even more unfit now.
And there are many in the democrat party that do not want to see her as Speaker. But because the dims are so lockstep, and they will punish anyone who steps out of line, many are afraid to rebuke her and suffer the consequences.
2 years of gridlock ahead.
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2 years of gridlock ahead.
I just don't get why people don't want to win. What happened to the wining attitude? We'll just muddle along in mediocrity I suppose.
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Good riddance to Paul Ryan.
He could have stepped down from the Speaker post months ago and allowed the republicans to put someone in who would have moved the agenda forward, but no. He had to remain to see that the chair went to his democrat party.
Ryan was and is a RINO in every meaning of the word. And when we thought Boehner was a terrible Speaker, Ryan stepped in to show everyone just how bad it could really be.
Goodbye you fuckin' piece of shit RINO.
(https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/151029112055-paul-ryan-gavel-pelosi-super-169.jpg)
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I just don't get why people don't want to win. What happened to the wining attitude? We'll just muddle along in mediocrity I suppose.
Some people (actually lots) don't understand the true dynamics that is going on in Washington and how it effects our everyday lives. They view politics much like a sport or sports teams.
Uninformed voters are the bain of this country. They vote for all of the wrong reasons. Take Beto as an example. He got lots of votes for no other reason than his looks. Never mind he's a crap representative that has not accomplished anything.
Then you have others that will vote strictly based on a person's race, or gender. Again, totally ignoring what that person actually represents.
Those morons above will go about their lives today totally oblivious to what they did.
Now you see why the democrats are so attracted to the uninformed voters, or the "useful idiots".
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In my area many first time women candidates won purely because they are far left progressive WOMEN. Year of the Vagina, and all that. They are unqualified, unintelligent Community Organizer types.
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We are totally and completely screwed UNLESS blacks (and to some extent Hispanics) continue waking up and do a mass switch to Republican. They've done it before, they used to be mostly Republican before going all Democrat, I believe around the 60s. But it's going to be very hard with how badly the media lies. If blacks watch MSM they probably have no idea that black unemployment is the lowest it has ever been in history for example.
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We are totally and completely screwed UNLESS blacks (and to some extent Hispanics) continue waking up and do a mass switch to Republican. They've done it before, they used to be mostly Republican before going all Democrat, I believe around the 60s. But it's going to be very hard with how badly the media lies. If blacks watch MSM they probably have no idea that black unemployment is the lowest it has ever been in history for example.
It would be nice to get more of the Black vote. However, the main reason we are losing is that we have lost the suburbs around major cities all across the country. These are mainly White people, that for some reason are Progressive, and largely vote Democrat. I have seen it personally in my area, and in the Denver burbs when I lived there.
These are extremely populated areas that can sway entire states, and do. Metro areas INCLUDING the suburbs are the problem now. If that doesn't change we are screwed long term until the non-violent revolution comes, if ever.
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We are totally and completely screwed
The results were disheartening, to say the least. And watching the major networks last night put a big pit in my stomach. It just reinforced how badly the game is rigged. Unless the minorities and young people wake up, they're doomed. I'm hopefully old enough that I won't be touched greatly by the changes coming.
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Nelson will demand a recount.
I predicted that one!
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/11/07/fl-sen-nelson-scott-head-for-a-recount-n2535498
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In my area many first time women candidates won purely because they are far left progressive WOMEN. Year of the Vagina, and all that. They are unqualified, unintelligent Community Organizer types.
It pains me to agree, but in large part, this does seem to be the way things went. The populace would rather have a woman with a participation trophy than a man with actual productive history. It's rather shameful, and before the women pile on here, yes - I'm fully aware that a woman can have productive history, and contribute. However, based on what I'm seeing in the house races, such was not the case. In TX 7 is a perfect example, as noted in prev post.
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One small beacon of hope is the house is only 2 seat Dem majority. Provided the Rep don't cave, I'm hoping for complete gridlock in the HR for 2 years. In fact, what I have to look forward to very soon is a govt shut down. I think it's the perfect time for the govt to really shut down, and let the people see just how useless the fedguv is beyond defending the republic.
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If the Democrats think they are going to waste Taxpayer Money investigating us at the House level, then we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all of the leaks of Classified Information, and much else, at the Senate level. Two can play that game!
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If the Democrats think they are going to waste Taxpayer Money investigating us at the House level, then we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all of the leaks of Classified Information, and much else, at the Senate level. Two can play that game!
Very true.
Example: Adam Shit is going to attempt to subpoena Trump's tax returns. He's going to say that he believes Trump has financial ties to "Russia" and the President must prove it to be untrue.
Here's the problem: Adam Shit has no evidence. He is going to try to make an allegation then make the President disprove it, another "guilty until proven innocent" episode ignoring law.
Trump will refuse, and it will work it's way to the Supreme Court, and without a doubt you can imagine what the ruling will be.
Also consider there are mountains of evidence now against the shenanigans of the democrats in the DoJ/FBI scandal. AG Sessions will be history any day now and a new AG will be presented to the new republican majority senate for an easy confirmation. The house will scream bloody murder of the firing of Sessions, and will try to launch an investigation of "obstructing justice" against the President for performing his duty under the constitution. This too will go to the SC and guess what?
Trump has learned that the constitution is on his side as President, and the dims still believe the constitution is secondary or even non-existent to them.
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3h3 hours ago
If the Democrats think they are going to waste Taxpayer Money investigating us at the House level, then we will likewise be forced to consider investigating them for all of the leaks of Classified Information, and much else, at the Senate level. Two can play that game!
This is not the way to go. Let the HR do its worst. There is nothing out there or Mueller would have found it. I say let the Dems spin, spin, spin. It might satisfy their voters, but there is no there, there. Shut down the entire govt except the military until all the investigation are done. Hamstring the HR. Lock the budget, don't pass any budget resolutions until all investigations are complete. Kill them with money.
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Another bright spot of news is there are something like 388 open fed judge slots that can now be filled with the 'right' people and the HR plays no part in that. Appoint, confirm, seat all in the hands of prez and senate. Should go like clockwork as of Jan 21.
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Here's a little fact the MSM would rather not talk about this morning:
2010 Obama: -63
1994 Clinton: -52
1958: Eisenhower: -48
1974 Ford (Nixon): -48
1966 Johnson: -47
1946 Truman: -45
2006 Bush: -30
1950 Truman: -29
1982 Reagan: -26
2018 Trump: -26
These are House seats lost in a mid term. Notice the two at the bottom? And notice who had the highest?
The "big blue wave" was a yellow trickle. And it was no "referendum on Trump".
And the media is still refusing to acknowledge the Senate pick ups (5) (Florida, Arizona, Missouri, ND and Indiana) as well as the losses of two high profile governor races in Florida and Georgia.
Keep in mind yet another fact: The competitive races in which BHO endorsed the (D) candidates, all lost. BHO did more harm than good in this election.
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Should go like clockwork as of Jan 21.
The Senate and House convene on January 3, 2019 with the new members.
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Here's a little fact the MSM would rather not talk about this morning:
2010 Obama: -63
1994 Clinton: -52
1958: Eisenhower: -48
1974 Ford (Nixon): -48
1966 Johnson: -47
1946 Truman: -45
2006 Bush: -30
1950 Truman: -29
1982 Reagan: -26
2018 Trump: -26
These are House seats lost in a mid term. Notice the two at the bottom? And notice who had the highest?
The "big blue wave" was a yellow trickle. And it was no "referendum on Trump".
And the media is still refusing to acknowledge the Senate pick ups (5) (Florida, Arizona, Missouri, ND and Indiana) as well as the losses of two high profile governor races in Florida and Georgia.
Keep in mind yet another fact: The competitive races in which BHO endorsed the (D) candidates, all lost. BHO did more harm than good in this election.
And that is why the Media is so sad today. They were pushing the Blue Wave, and hoping to take both House, and Senate. The Democrats only made themselves a scapegoat for Trump's win in 2020.
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And that is why the Media is so sad today. They were pushing the Blue Wave, and hoping to take both House, and Senate. The Democrats only made themselves a scapegoat for Trump's win in 2020.
Notice how quiet Felonious and her sycophants are this morning? Notice how quiet the Mocha Messiah has become?
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Notice how quiet Felonious and her sycophants are this morning? Notice how quiet the Mocha Messiah has become?
Very telling. Also the likes of Maddow, Van Jones, and Tom Brokaw crying in their Wheaties. All the celebrities like Obama, Oprah, Beyoncé, Rihanna, and Taylor Swift all LOST. Well the candidates they supported lost.
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Very telling. Also the likes of Maddow, Van Jones, and Tom Brokaw crying in their Wheaties. All the celebrities like Obama, Oprah, Beyoncé, Rihanna, and Taylor Swift all LOST. Well the candidates they supported lost.
Exactly.
And for Pelosi, she only has a very slim margin in the House. If she has defectors on any legislation she can't get it out the door.
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It pains me to agree, but in large part, this does seem to be the way things went. The populace would rather have a woman with a participation trophy than a man with actual productive history. It's rather shameful, and before the women pile on here, yes - I'm fully aware that a woman can have productive history, and contribute. However, based on what I'm seeing in the house races, such was not the case. In TX 7 is a perfect example, as noted in prev post.
You won't get me to pile on. I hate the stupid twits. Except Becky and azure of course.
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You won't get me to pile on. I hate the stupid twits. Except Becky and azure of course.
I wouldn't call Becky or Azure "stupid twits". ;)
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You won't get me to pile on. I hate the stupid twits. Except Becky and azure of course.
Since Trump won, the women that participate here are NOT stupid twits. The overly emotional, soccer mom, bubble heads in my area...….very different story. They believe everything CNN, NBC, MSNBC, Ellen, Oprah, CBS, ABC, PBS, and the New York Times tells them.
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I wouldn't call Becky or Azure "stupid twits". ;)
She's not saying that. She's saying they ARE NOT stupid twits, and I agree.
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Yes, I'm certain that the 'stupid twits' referred to were the subject of my disdain, namely the women who won an election based on having an 'innie' and very little more of substance.
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She's not saying that. She's saying they ARE NOT stupid twits, and I agree.
I know.
That's why I put "little winky" in there. It was a grammar thing.
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Yes, I'm certain that the 'stupid twits' referred to were the subject of my disdain, namely the women who won an election based on having an 'innie' and very little more of substance.
And it just hows the immaturity of the average millennial voter, they just haven't grown up. Just like student government in high school, they're voting for the most popular, or prettiest, or...(substitute latest fad)
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I wouldn't call Becky or Azure "stupid twits". ;)
Yes, Anthony is violently agreeing with me.
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Looks like two gov are going blue. IL and WI. Not surprised about WI, Walker is a slick talking doof.
Wisconsin shit the bed last night that’s for sure. It was a race that should have been like shooting fish in a barrel. Unemployment went from 9.6% to 2.9% in 8 years; property and income taxes are lower; more people are employed in Wisconsin than ever before. But because the haters just hated Walker, they would hav elected a salamander to replace him.
I’m pissed off.
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Yes, Anthony is violently agreeing with me.
The information I am seeking is very beneficial for the agreement to becoming later for the future.
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Here's a little fact the MSM would rather not talk about this morning:
2010 Obama: -63
1994 Clinton: -52
1958: Eisenhower: -48
1974 Ford (Nixon): -48
1966 Johnson: -47
1946 Truman: -45
2006 Bush: -30
1950 Truman: -29
1982 Reagan: -26
2018 Trump: -26
These are House seats lost in a mid term. Notice the two at the bottom? And notice who had the highest?
The "big blue wave" was a yellow trickle. And it was no "referendum on Trump".
And the media is still refusing to acknowledge the Senate pick ups (5) (Florida, Arizona, Missouri, ND and Indiana) as well as the losses of two high profile governor races in Florida and Georgia.
Keep in mind yet another fact: The competitive races in which BHO endorsed the (D) candidates, all lost. BHO did more harm than good in this election.
To add, this net loss is DESPITE dozens of Republicans quitting and giving up the power of incumbency. If they stayed on, I’ll bet we could have at least broke even. But good riddance, losers.
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A little bit of encouraging local news: Phil Scott was re-elected governor of VT quite handily, even in a state that's otherwise solidly blue. Even in my college town, it was Scott over Hallquist by about the same margin as the state as a whole (55% to ~40% last I checked).
The Scott-Hallquist debate was almost a comedy. Hallquist apparently thinks that connecting rural areas to broadband will be sufficient to kickstart their economies and bring instant prosperity. Scott demolished that notion with a couple of easy counter-examples.
Then she tried to brand Scott as a (gasp!) Trump supporter. Ummm... no, not really. And it was a stupid move since it is well known that he calls them as he sees them. The only thing I could think of was it was a gambit to get Trump's base in VT to abstain rather than vote for Scott. Apparently it didn't work.
I was hoping the margin would be wider, but a win is a win.
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And now a little beach time before going back to work..............
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And now a little beach time before going back to work..............
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Well at least that's better than than horrible picture of Hillary that you usually post.
But still,
yecccch!
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Oy, ruined again. Drat!
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I live in a far western suburb of Philly. Used to be rural, then somewhat rural, now it has become suburbia with the expected change in Demographics. Once solidly Republican, not long ago, it is now solidly Democrat. All the Commie, anti gun, far left progressive Democrat women WON, beating incumbent Republicans. They ALL used the same talking points, and bombarded the airwaves, mail, and door to door. They must have had multiple millions from out of state to finance these campaigns. I know Bloomberg, and Soros orgs funded them. I've never seen anything like it.
People are idiots, even when things are going well. They vote the way the Media tells them. We are f*cked.
Same here to the North of Philthadelphia, two adjacent counties that had been R strongholds long before I moved here are done. We lost long-standing R reps in state leg and Congress, the Governor (major Socialist- wealthy, of course) was reelected, Bob Casey "June-yah" was reelected, the local town went Left.
Wife and me have been discussing Florida lately, she said this morning, "we are out of here."
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Same here to the North of Philthadelphia, two adjacent counties that had been R strongholds long before I moved here are done. We lost long-standing R reps in state leg and Congress, the Governor (major Socialist- wealthy, of course) was reelected, Bob Casey "June-yah" was reelected, the local town went Left.
Wife and me have been discussing Florida lately, she said this morning, "we are out of here."
I grew up in Delco, but have lived in Chester County on and off for the last 20 years, with a 5 year stint in Denver, CO, and then a few other places around the country for corporate moves. So I have seen this played out in other states. I came back to a County undergoing tremendous development with people that no longer vote like me from God knows where. This is classic soccer mom, and dad suburbia now. Yuck!
Delco went Dem first, then Montco, and Bucks, now Chester County is solidly Dem. Too many damn Toll Brothers, and Pulte McMansion developments.
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Wife and me have been discussing Florida lately, she said this morning, "we are out of here."
Choose wisely. Some parts of FL are very nice year around. Other locations - errrrrrrr.
I made a bunch of trips to FL about 12 years ago thinking I would relocate there. Made trips in all parts of the year, in many parts of the state. Decided not to.
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Choose wisely. Some parts of FL are very nice year around. Other locations - errrrrrrr.
I made a bunch of trips to FL about 12 years ago thinking I would relocate there. Made trips in all parts of the year, in many parts of the state. Decided not to.
Thinking north of Tampa. Friends are there five years or so, first expedition planned sometime early 2019.
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Thinking north of Tampa. Friends are there five years or so, first expedition planned sometime early 2019.
There are lots of places "north of Tampa". Whereabouts? I'm in Oldsmar, just a touch west of the Hillsborough/Pinellas line, on the north end of Tampa Bay in Oldsmar.
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There are lots of places "north of Tampa". Whereabouts? I'm in Oldsmar, just a touch west of the Hillsborough/Pinellas line.
Spring Hill area.
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Well I posted too soon. Yes, Phil Scott won in VT, but it's definitely not roses for him as the Dems and Progressives together now have a veto-proof majority in both state houses. In my district it was Rs (one an incumbent) who won the two House seats, but the three Senate seats went to two Ds and a P.
As I said, VT is solidly blue now, even socialist... it wasn't always this way, but hippies and urban types started colonizing the state in the middle of the last century, and now the old-time Vermonters are in the minority. Even Trump has a solid base here, as in other rural states, but they're vastly outnumbered.
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/11/08/fl-sen-something-very-odd-and-possibly-illegal-is-going-on-in-these-two-democratic-counties-n2535608
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Thank you. I now feel the need to bleach my eyes.