PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 06, 2023, 06:35:09 AM
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On Monday I was in a car, four hours from home, with four other people, all with iPhones. We passed a business I’d never heard of, and I mentioned its name and that I’d like to know more about it. No more was said about it. Yesterday, on our way home, I checked my email and had received an email from that very business, a chatty introduction to their products and a link to their blog.
Other than sidebar ads generated by my actual browsing, I’d never experienced this, and thought I never would because we don’t do Siri, Alexa and such. But it seems something is listening to speech anyway.
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On Monday I was in a car, four hours from home, with four other people, all with iPhones. We passed a business I’d never heard of, and I mentioned its name and that I’d like to know more about it. No more was said about it. Yesterday, on our way home, I checked my email and had received an email from that very business, a chatty introduction to their products and a link to their blog.
Other than sidebar ads generated by my actual browsing, I’d never experienced this, and thought I never would because we don’t do Siri, Alexa and such. But it seems something is listening to speech anyway.
Do you have facebook, tiktok or any other social media apps?
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Do you have facebook, tiktok or any other social media apps?
I do not. None.
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I do not. None.
I don't have any social media apps whatsoever. I use Brave as a browser on my phone. I've never had any experience like you mentioned.
Social media apps are the worst for spying. I wouldn't trust any app connected with Google, or Amazon.
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I do not. None.
I’ve had that happen to me, but ads would pop up on Facebook. I’ve never had an ad or solicitation trigger an email. That is very creepy because the business would have to be given your email address. I can’t believe an iPhone would facilitate that transfer.
Sometimes you post something from Gab or maybe Truth Social if I’m not mistaken. Do you have an account there (where they need your email address) or do you just browse without setting up an account.
Did any other people on the car get an unsolicited email?
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If you purchase online using a credit or debit card, that information contains your phone number, address and email address.
I was in a store recently and purchased an item on my CC. It asked if I wanted a email receipt, and I declined. When I checked my email later, there was the receipt. I did not offer the address to the store, they pulled it from the CC.
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Wow
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Sometimes it really is coincidence but you can't be sure. I know that they can use your phone to listen in on your talk but supposedly it's not recorded by Apple unless they are presented with a warrant before the fact. To my knowledge they don't listen in to voice and sell it to advertisers but I could be wrong.
But just driving by the place might have pinged your location. And I think location data is sold. Isn't that how 2000 Mules got hold of it?
As for how they got your email, I think there are entities that compile data and create profiles of us, like Luci said your email is connected to you via other activities.
Yes, VERY creepy. If you have an Android the only way to avoid being physically tracked or listened to is to remove the battery. Powering it down doesn't work, they can still hack it and listen in. I believe that was confirmed by Snowden. The technology is there but I don't know how much the tech companies actually exploit it for marketing purposes. Might be one of the reasons Apple doesn't let us have removable batteries.
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If you purchase online using a credit or debit card, that information contains your phone number, address and email address.
I was in a store recently and purchased an item on my CC. It asked if I wanted a email receipt, and I declined. When I checked my email later, there was the receipt. I did not offer the address to the store, they pulled it from the CC.
Wonderful. Geez, I can’t WAIT until all we have is fucking digital currency.
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I wondered about location pinging, but yes, the email link was creepy. Stan, I DO have an account at Gab. Somehow I don’t think of it as diabolical social media, but these days I trust nothing really.
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Sometimes it really is coincidence but you can't be sure. I know that they can use your phone to listen in on your talk but supposedly it's not recorded by Apple unless they are presented with a warrant before the fact. To my knowledge they don't listen in to voice and sell it to advertisers but I could be wrong.
But just driving by the place might have pinged your location. And I think location data is sold. Isn't that how 2000 Mules got hold of it?
As for how they got your email, I think there are entities that compile data and create profiles of us, like Luci said your email is connected to you via other activities.
Yes, VERY creepy. If you have an Android the only way to avoid being physically tracked or listened to is to remove the battery. Powering it down doesn't work, they can still hack it and listen in. I believe that was confirmed by Snowden. The technology is there but I don't know how much the tech companies actually exploit it for marketing purposes. Might be one of the reasons Apple doesn't let us have removable batteries.
Makes me want to get a faraday bag, but I wonder if it’s worth it because all of us have been tracked by our phones already.
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I wondered about location pinging, but yes, the email link was creepy. Stan, I DO have an account at Gab. Somehow I don’t think of it as diabolical social media, but these days I trust nothing really.
ANY social media is stealing your data, that's how they make money.
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ANY social media is stealing your data, that's how they make money.
If you're not paying for that site (and maybe if you are), you are the product.
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If you're not paying for that site (and maybe if you are), you are the product.
Yep, these apps infiltrate your PC, tablet or phone and record your key strokes, browsing history, contact list and skim data off of any other apps you may have.
They have your name, address, DOB, phone number, email, buying habits, bank information, etc. And it's all for sale.
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Here’s an interesting one. My husband had jury duty in July. He followed the call-procedure and was never called to come in.
In late August he got a call from a man saying he was a deputy with our county sheriff’s department. Gave a name and badge number. Said my husband was in contempt of court for not coming in for jury duty when called in July. Offered to “make the charge go away.” My husband believed it not and said he’d call the sheriff’s department himself to see what was going on. Scammer said things would go worse for him if he “breaks our connection.”
Hung up, called sheriff’s department. They said yes, they had an officer by that name and badge number, but it was a scam.
So how did the scammer get access to jury duty records? And a name and badge number with which to IMPERSONATE AN OFFICER?
Nothing is protected anymore.
Most worrisome, if jurors’ names are known, revenge can be exacted upon them.
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Here’s an interesting one. My husband had jury duty in July. He followed the call-procedure and was never called to come in.
In late August he got a call from a man saying he was a deputy with our county sheriff’s department. Gave a name and badge number. Said my husband was in contempt of court for not coming in for jury duty when called in July. Offered to “make the charge go away.” My husband believed it not and said he’d call the sheriff’s department himself to see what was going on. Scammer said things would go worse for him if he “breaks our connection.”
Hung up, called sheriff’s department. They said yes, they had an officer by that name and badge number, but it was a scam.
So how did the scammer get access to jury duty records? And a name and badge number with which to IMPERSONATE AN OFFICER?
Nothing is protected anymore.
Most worrisome, if jurors’ names are known, revenge can be exacted upon them.
Social media is the greatest trojan horse ever.
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I started getting emails from Bruce's Custom Covers (they make covers for airplanes) after I visited their booth at Oshkosh. I never left a name or email, but did get my questions answered. I had visited their website months earlier with no spontaneous emails.
Finally figured out where they possibly got my email address: I had bookmarked them in EAA's Airventure app. EAA possibly sold vendors the contact information of anyone who recorded interest in those vendors.
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I started getting emails from Bruce's Custom Covers (they make covers for airplanes) after I visited their booth at Oshkosh. I never left a name or email, but did get my questions answered. I had visited their website months earlier with no spontaneous emails.
Finally figured out where they possibly got my email address: I had bookmarked them in EAA's Airventure app. EAA possibly sold vendors the contact information of anyone who recorded interest in those vendors.
I purchased a cover for my Navion from Bruce’s. I would never consider them tech savvy. Seems like they operate very old school - hell, they even have a person on their website answering the phone.
So I’m guessing it was the EAA thing. I’m SURE they are making money anyway they can. That could even be in the vendor agreement.
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Social media is the greatest trojan horse ever.
I have an almost-zero social media profile, but my husband has even less of one. The jury/sheriff’s department scam is either an inside job (courthouse employees, etc.) or the supposedly secure records have been hacked. They knew the dates my husband had been called for jury duty.
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I have an almost-zero social media profile, but my husband has even less of one. The jury/sheriff’s department scam is either an inside job (courthouse employees, etc.) or the supposedly secure records have been hacked. They knew the dates my husband had been called for jury duty.
There may be a public record of his name and dates served perhaps.
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I'm not that bothered by the sharing of data for marketing purposes. I don't like it, but it's not malicious. They're actually trying to give me something they think I want. It's just capitalists trying to make money.
The problem is when an organization with guns and no hesitation to use them on me (the government) collects and uses the data. For ANY reason. I have HUGE problems with that. The government and criminals are who I don't want to get my data.
Bruce's Custom Covers selling my data to marketing companies, or buying my data to send me an email, is one thing: Bruce's Custom Covers selling my data to the NSA is another thing altogether. I have no doubt Bruce's Custom Covers isn't doing that. Small businesses who still care enough about their customers and their reputations aren't the problem. It's the monopolistic big companies, the tech firms, the ISPs, that do it and don't care. You can tell when they lose all interest in the happiness of their customers because they know they have you by the balls. Microsoft? Nearly all companies can't function without Windows and it's the OS for most private computers. When was the last time you felt Microsoft gave a shit about you? They make a big deal about "security" while at the same time installing spyware on your machine you can't do anything about.
The biggest tech firms know the most about you. But even still, their datasets are separate. The biggest danger is when they all sell the data to another overlord and it's all put together. That would be the NSA who are compiling COMPLETE profiles of each and every one of us. And the FBI accesses all of that through the joke of the FISA court. They're not far behind China in their headlong drive to control our every move.
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I have an almost-zero social media profile, but my husband has even less of one. The jury/sheriff’s department scam is either an inside job (courthouse employees, etc.) or the supposedly secure records have been hacked. They knew the dates my husband had been called for jury duty.
Who's "they"? The sheriff's department? They're the ones who called him for jury duty. Or someone unrelated? I have heard that police/sheriff departments are selling data for money but I don't know how widespread that is.
Depending on the state, juror names are public record. Some states, not.
The thing about public records is you used to have to travel to the local courthouse to get it. Everything being online now changes it greatly and opens you up to having your info abused for nefarious purposes.
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Who's "they"? The sheriff's department? They're the ones who called him for jury duty. Or someone unrelated? I have heard that police/sheriff departments are selling data for money but I don't know how widespread that is.
Depending on the state, juror names are public record. Some states, not.
The thing about public records is you used to have to travel to the local courthouse to get it. Everything being online now changes it greatly and opens you up to having your info abused for nefarious purposes.
The scammer knew the dates my husband was called for jury duty. In my county a jury summons comes from the auditor’s office. Given the sensitive and volatile nature of some trials, you’d think jury data would be tightly controlled.
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I’m sure you’ve heard about Liberty Safe Company. The FBI asked for their magic sequence code that unlocks all Liberty safes, and Liberty gave it to them. Now there’s a call to Bud Lite Liberty Safe Company.
Nothing is safe anymore. Pun intended.
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The scammer knew the dates my husband was called for jury duty. In my county a jury summons comes from the auditor’s office. Given the sensitive and volatile nature of some trials, you’d think jury data would be tightly controlled.
Oh a criminal scammer. I thought you meant the sheriff’s office was the scammer. Nevermind.
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I’m sure you’ve heard about Liberty Safe Company. The FBI asked for their magic sequence code that unlocks all Liberty safes, and Liberty gave it to them. Now there’s a call to Bud Lite Liberty Safe Company.
Nothing is safe anymore. Pun intended.
Holy crap.
I only have a dial on my Fort Knox gun safe, but my brother has a liberty safe with a keypad. I’ll let him know.
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I’m sure you’ve heard about Liberty Safe Company. The FBI asked for their magic sequence code that unlocks all Liberty safes, and Liberty gave it to them. Now there’s a call to Bud Lite Liberty Safe Company.
Nothing is safe anymore. Pun intended.
It’s not hard to break into those things. You can do it with an ax or one of those metal cutting saws. If you don’t want your safe destroyed you may as well tell them the combination. Although I wouldn’t and I don’t like that Liberty does. I’d make them do the work if they want my guns then sue them for the value of my safe when my lawyer gets it overturned as an unlawful seizure. But I kinda don’t blame Liberty, they have to give LE the code or reset it to factory default if they get a subpoena for it.
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Warrant or not, what purpose was there in gaining access to the gun safe, other than confiscating his guns?
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It seems like the fbi LOVES to steal from people under the cover of an improperly acquired search warrant.
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On Monday I was in a car, four hours from home, with four other people, all with iPhones. We passed a business I’d never heard of, and I mentioned its name and that I’d like to know more about it. No more was said about it. Yesterday, on our way home, I checked my email and had received an email from that very business, a chatty
This jumped out to me this afternoon.
Car companies have decided that very bit of your privacy is waived if you get in one of their cars. They feel free to record, photograph, video and sell everything they hoover up.
https://www.politico.eu/article/car-manufacturer-data-privacy-driver-passenger-sexual-activity-report/
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Warrant or not, what purpose was there in gaining access to the gun safe, other than confiscating his guns?
Cash. The government loves stealing under civil forfeiture. I keep important papers, passports, and such in separate lockboxes in my gun safe, which is a Liberty. More for fire protection then theft. Gun safes are just special sheet metal covering a drywall type fire resistant type material. My money is the FBI was looking for something, couldn't find it, and got a search warrant just for the safe. I bet the agents were too lazy or stupid to remove the safe from the home, so they contacted the safe company and an employee didn't go through their legal department and just gave up the code. I would hope that any evidence would be thrown out. The safe company should have no obligation legally to open the safe, warrant or not, since they don't have ownership or any type of authority over the safe after it has been sold.
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This jumped out to me this afternoon.
Car companies have decided that very bit of your privacy is waived if you get in one of their cars. They feel free to record, photograph, video and sell everything they hoover up.
https://www.politico.eu/article/car-manufacturer-data-privacy-driver-passenger-sexual-activity-report/
I’ll stick with my dumb 1986 model thankyouverymuch.
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Warrant or not, what purpose was there in gaining access to the gun safe, other than confiscating his guns?
It seems like the fbi LOVES to steal from people under the cover of an improperly acquired search warrant.
Correct. Civil asset forfeiture. They literally depend on the income stream now and deliberately plan to confiscate whatever (cash, guns, vehicles) they can claim they “suspect” was involved in criminal activity then keep it even if you are never convicted or even charged with any crime.
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https://thepostmillennial.com/liberty-safe-reverses-course-gives-customers-ability-to-protect-privacy-will-only-comply-with-law-enforcement-under-subpoena
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https://thepostmillennial.com/liberty-safe-reverses-course-gives-customers-ability-to-protect-privacy-will-only-comply-with-law-enforcement-under-subpoena
I just listened to Styx's video on the subject and he's right. Liberty was put in an awkward position wrt this request. For them to take this step toward privacy is the right thing to do, and it brings them closer to being a target of the deep state themselves. So good for them.
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True? No idea.
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True? No idea.
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If it is Wiki hasn't picked it up yet. Maybe community notes will fact check it.
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Posted by someone trying to access Steve Bannon’s War Room while in France.
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Posted by someone trying to access Steve Bannon’s War Room while in France.
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Good for rumble. I hope they stick to their guns. They’re one of the most important free speech platforms right now. Alternative media must continue strong.
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Surveillance could only get more invasive than this if they put it in something you swallow.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12480095/Smarty-pants-Defense-department-developing-high-tech-spy-UNDERWEAR-captures-audio-video-geolocation-intelligence-agents-police.html
“The US government announced it is developing smart textiles that transform any clothing into surveillance tools - a program it is calling SMART ePANTS.
The computerized garments will 'feel, move and function' like regular clothes but include capabilities to record audio, video and geolocation data.
Officials plan to produce shirts, pants, socks and underwear with tiny cameras, sensors, microphones that behave like threading and energy harvesters powered by the wearer's body.
Reports claim the National Intelligence Department has spent $22 million on the effort geared toward undercover agents, law enforcement and emergency medical technicians.”
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Surveillance could only get more invasive than this if they put it in something you swallow.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-12480095/Smarty-pants-Defense-department-developing-high-tech-spy-UNDERWEAR-captures-audio-video-geolocation-intelligence-agents-police.html
“The US government announced it is developing smart textiles that transform any clothing into surveillance tools - a program it is calling SMART ePANTS.
The computerized garments will 'feel, move and function' like regular clothes but include capabilities to record audio, video and geolocation data.
Officials plan to produce shirts, pants, socks and underwear with tiny cameras, sensors, microphones that behave like threading and energy harvesters powered by the wearer's body.
Reports claim the National Intelligence Department has spent $22 million on the effort geared toward undercover agents, law enforcement and emergency medical technicians.”
hmmm, I guess TSA trying to strip all passengers was just a bit ahead of its time...
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https://twitter.com/KyleSeraphin/status/1700204500013769005
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