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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: pilot_dude on November 05, 2015, 07:25:44 AM

Title: POTUS vs Constitution
Post by: pilot_dude on November 05, 2015, 07:25:44 AM
It will be interesting to see Team D's reaction if Team R wins the White House and functions similarly.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/03/dear-media-ask-dems-obama-still-believe-congress-separation-powers/

A snip from the article:
"Last June, four months after Texas federal judge Andrew Hanen’s order to freeze President’s DAPA and Expanded DACA programs—disclosure: the Immigration Reform Law Institute has filed briefs in these cases—DHS’s immigration policy makers apparently held a “Regulations Retreat” to discuss “different options” for “open market Employment Authorization Document (EAD) regulatory changes.” EAD is the statutory term for work permits. From a memo recording these discussions, we now know that the Obama DHS has, rather than pausing to allow the courts to assess the constitutionality of its enforcement nullification initiatives, been gearing up to roll out one or more of four plans drawn up at the meeting, each one designed to provide EADs to millions of non-immigrants, including those lawfully present and visa overstayers, crippling the actual employment-based visa system on the federal statute-book."
Title: Re: POTUS vs Constitution
Post by: nddons on November 05, 2015, 07:55:33 AM
But, but ... It's for the children!!

Also from the article:

"Does anyone have any further doubt that amnesty for illegal aliens is an act of pure tyranny, a direct assault on our Constitutional order and rule of law? This DHS memo constitutes a frank acknowledgement that amnesty-crazed politicians can’t get what they want through the republican process, by submitting legislation and winning support from actual American citizens and their representatives. The American people and their representatives will therefore be swept aside by administrative fiat."

If there is ever a time to pull out the impeachment card, this would be it.
Title: Re: POTUS vs Constitution
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on November 05, 2015, 10:54:27 PM
Ah, impeachment.  Remember when it actually meant something?
Title: Re: POTUS vs Constitution
Post by: acrogimp on November 06, 2015, 08:32:29 AM
So long as the Judicial and Legislative branches allow the Executive to continue unabated nothing will change unless it is to get worse.

A lawless, imperial President is the single greatest threat foreseen by the Founders and is specifically why we have separation of powers, and the Bill of Rights.

Since Congress has repeatedly abdicated their responsibility (most recently with the budget, Iran and pacific trade deals) it would be insanity to expect anything different from them.

As for the Supremes, they are part of the problem at this point having given up on any semblance of evaluating against the Constitution and instead choosing to continue to legislate from the bench.  The Roberts Court will go down in history as extremely damaging.

We are witnessing the slow death of the shining city on a hill, not as we feared from the outside, but from the inside exactly as Khruschev threatened.

'Gimp
Title: Re: POTUS vs Constitution
Post by: Anthony on November 06, 2015, 01:05:03 PM
So long as the Judicial and Legislative branches allow the Executive to continue unabated nothing will change unless it is to get worse.

A lawless, imperial President is the single greatest threat foreseen by the Founders and is specifically why we have separation of powers, and the Bill of Rights.

Since Congress has repeatedly abdicated their responsibility (most recently with the budget, Iran and pacific trade deals) it would be insanity to expect anything different from them.

As for the Supremes, they are part of the problem at this point having given up on any semblance of evaluating against the Constitution and instead choosing to continue to legislate from the bench.  The Roberts Court will go down in history as extremely damaging.

We are witnessing the slow death of the shining city on a hill, not as we feared from the outside, but from the inside exactly as Khruschev threatened.

'Gimp


^^^^^^^This!  Since the Dems have the mainstream media on their side, as well as government, and education they can get away with illegal laws, and violating the Constitution at will with immigration, Obamacare, use of government agencies to penalize conservatives, etc.  If the Republican do any of this stuff, the media would be howling, and create public outcries, and thus political pressure.  The Dems don't have to worry about that.  Double standard, and hypocricy anyone?
Title: Re: POTUS vs Constitution
Post by: nddons on November 06, 2015, 01:11:50 PM

So long as the Judicial and Legislative branches allow the Executive to continue unabated nothing will change unless it is to get worse.

A lawless, imperial President is the single greatest threat foreseen by the Founders and is specifically why we have separation of powers, and the Bill of Rights.

Since Congress has repeatedly abdicated their responsibility (most recently with the budget, Iran and pacific trade deals) it would be insanity to expect anything different from them.

As for the Supremes, they are part of the problem at this point having given up on any semblance of evaluating against the Constitution and instead choosing to continue to legislate from the bench.  The Roberts Court will go down in history as extremely damaging.

We are witnessing the slow death of the shining city on a hill, not as we feared from the outside, but from the inside exactly as Khruschev threatened.

'Gimp


^^^^^^^This!  Since the Dems have the mainstream media on their side, as well as government, and education they can get away with illegal laws, and violating the Constitution at will with immigration, Obamacare, use of government agencies to penalize conservatives, etc.  If the Republican do any of this stuff, the media would be howling, and create public outcries, and thus political pressure.  The Dems don't have to worry about that.  Double standard, and hypocricy anyone?

Yep. Remember, it's the REPUBLICANS wasting "millions" of dollars investigating Hillary's lies on Benghazi, even though it was Hillary's lack of candor, obstruction of Justice, hiding or destroying evidence, and outright lies that caused the need for hearings in the first place.