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Spin Zone / Gonna take a break
« on: January 16, 2017, 08:53:17 AM »
Sorry guys/gal but I've decided to take a break and take my own advice and STFU.  I'm gonna give DT a chance but it's my gut feeling I'll be back here discussing the impeachment hearings sometime before Democrats decide who to run against Pence in 2020.  Enjoy your victory and may God have mercy on us all.

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Spin Zone / Re: Serious Question on supposed Russian Hacking
« on: January 16, 2017, 08:43:58 AM »
Sorry Witmo, you lost it for me with the "mock the disabled" as that is straight out of the alt-left playbook of talking points.  You really have not researched that one well.  Please show us the evidence of Trump mocking the disabled reporter and how he mimicked him exactly.  Make sure that you don't look for instances of Trump using the same gestures when talking about folks other than that reporter becuase it won't help your case any.

Bizarro world.  I'll leave you to it.  Good -bye.

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Spin Zone / Re: Serious Question on supposed Russian Hacking
« on: January 15, 2017, 11:05:09 PM »
Deny deny deny.  It's your only answer to Russian interference having any effect on the outcome of the election.  You  claim you weren't influenced and yet you don't know what they did?  Without knowledge of their actions, how can you say nothing they did influenced you?  So deny they did anything.  The only way to rationalize their actions had no effect without knowing exactly what they did is if you deny they did anything.  It's all a left wing fiction because everyone in our intelligence agencies are liberal democrats--it's a requirement for the job.  Yeah, that's the ticket, it never happened. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Serious Question on supposed Russian Hacking
« on: January 15, 2017, 08:42:15 PM »
It's you.

You seem perfectly willing to condemn Trump on the flimsiest non-evidence, but give Hillary every possible benefit of the doubt when confronted with mountains of extremely suspicious conduct.
What flimsiest of evidence?  He's admitted self-dealing Trump foundation funds.  He's admitted bribing politicians. I've watched him mock the disabled and denigrate veterans.  I've listened to him talk of assaulting women because his fame allows him to get away with it. I've seen him lie to our face with evidence of the lie in front of him.  Flimsiest of evidence?  What is this, bizarro world where nothing is real?

But I digress, this thread wasn't about what I think of Trump.  Lucifer wants proof that Russian hacking helped Trump's campaign.  Then he went back to wanting proof Russians even did any hacking.  He apparently refuses to believe any reports that our intelligence agencies have a consensus that they've concluded with high confidence that Russia conducted an information warfare campaign to benefit one candidate.  He wants evidence.  Ask his buddy Trump to get him a clearance since he obviously insists he has a need to know.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump won states having 55% of the population.
« on: January 15, 2017, 08:31:31 PM »
It's not thin skinned.  You cannot make a coherent argument so you resort to telling someone to shut the fuck up.  Got news for you sparky, this is a forum for discussion, just because you can't make any sense with your inane arguments doesn't give you the right to try to shut people down from continuing the discussion.

 You're a troll because you keep acting like one.  Here's a novel concept, try making an argument using facts instead of liberal talking points. You want to make wild claims, be prepared to back them up.

 But when you start the "shut the fuck up" routine then you don't deserve the time of day or wasted bandwidth.
Awwww.  Too bad so sad you recognize you have nothing intelligent to say so your only recourse is to call me a troll and declare victory.  Congratulations on your success.  All the best in your future endeavors.  Keep on denying everything you don't like and if that doesn't work kill the messenger.

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Spin Zone / Re: Serious Question on supposed Russian Hacking
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:44:07 PM »
Is it me or did Lucifer just wake from a coma?

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump won states having 55% of the population.
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:42:06 PM »
Wow, some cojones there to come on the forum and start telling members to shut the fuck up.  Is that how you deal with people you disagree with?
  My My.  I had no idea you were so thin skinned.  My apologies.

No one here has told you to shut the fuck up even though you constantly spew unverifiable bullshit that's often no more than the liberal talking points of the day.
  See my earlier comment.

You've shown yourself to be little more than a troll. The above comment just confirms it.

Just because I haven't drunk the Trump kool-aid, I'm a troll.  I'm crushed.  I may never post again.  I've endured all manner of name calling by our resident troll Number7 and he never got any troll credit.  I guess I'll just go back to digging my bomb shelter and laying in some supplies for the coming years of greatness,

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Spin Zone / Re: Serious Question on supposed Russian Hacking
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:31:01 PM »
You're asking me to prove Russia was effective in electing Donald Trump as if it's being ineffective excuses it.  You tell me how to prove what information individual voters thought significant enough to vote for one candidate or the other?  Was it information provided by the FSB or was it an intense dislike of pants suits?  It doesn't matter, Trump is P-E.  What would be interesting and actionable to find out is did the Trump campaign work with Russia during the campaign or did Russia act by itself.  Will Russia's attempts to help Trump result in reciprocity from the Trump administration?  Stay tuned.  Just today NATO nations have more to think about as to our (ie. Trump's) willingness to defend them from our new best friend, Vladmir.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump won states having 55% of the population.
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:18:55 PM »
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

Again and again you link the Clinton Foundation to the Clinton pocketbook.  Asides from that, if a politician does something governmentally and somebody profits by that government action, you have to prove a quid pro quo before alleging criminal activity.  HRC doing something as SoS and then after leaving office getting paid speaking fees long after the fact is a long way from proving she acted illegally.  Do I suspect she's a crook? it doesn't matter.  It matters if she violated the law and it can be proved.  For a time politicians were enjoined not only to obey the law but to avoid any appearance of violating the law.  That ship has sailed long ago.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump won states having 55% of the population.
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:04:29 PM »
The Electoral College is enshrined in our constitution. Shouldn't we as Americans defend it just like we defend the entire constitution?

Right on cue!  To answer your question, sure.  That's why I concede that President Elect Trump won the election.  Doesn't preclude me from thinking the Constitution should be changed. 


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump won states having 55% of the population.
« on: January 15, 2017, 06:01:38 PM »
Then there is this scenario:
Person A says "if you pay me a million bucks to speak to your group, I'll make sure the United States Government gives you favorable treatment".

The group pays the million bucks to person A, and gets that favorable treatment.

No problem, right?
Refresh my memory please.  Was HRC still the SoS when she received money to speak at various corporate venues? Did she receive any funds from anyone while she was in government?  When was the alleged favorable treatment received?  To answer your question, if someone paid a politician in office a million bucks to speak and then received favorable treatment from that politician's office in the government, LOCK THEM UP.   If someone, not in government, promises to get favorable government treatment to someone for cash, and the government acts favorablly towards the entity paying, you'd have to prove that the person receiving the money colluded with someone in government to act favorably for some sort of reward.  Otherwise every lobbyist would be thrown in jail for getting the government to act favorably and the lobbyist getting paid to do it.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump won states having 55% of the population.
« on: January 15, 2017, 05:48:07 PM »
Besides being socio-pathically delusional about this topic, can you tell us why you never objected to Clinton winning more of the vote in the 2008 primaries than Obama?
Hypocrisy is so you, you know.

Maybe because I'm not a Democrat and don't really care about their rules for choosing a candidate.

I do care about Congressional and the Presidential positions that I do vote for and want my vote to count as much as your vote.  Cue the rabid defense of the EC.

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Spin Zone / Re: Serious Question on supposed Russian Hacking
« on: January 15, 2017, 05:40:22 PM »
Since the FBI has yet to actually investigate russian hacking, or examine the DNC computers where it was alleged to have happened, it is easy to dismiss the entire charade an ANOTHER in a never ending series of distractions to keep people from realizing that the democrats lack substance, integrity, honesty, a clear message and/or much of an agenda beyond the embrace of stupid.
Everything else is rumor, accusation mongering and lies.

Do you think the FBI has not been investigating?  Well even Mr. Trump seems convinced of Russian actions and since he's privy to the good stuff, I think I'll lean towards believing our Intel folks and leave you to your fantasies. I seem to recall Mr. Trump promising to reveal his own information refuting Russian involvement before his Friday intel brief.  Maybe he was going to use Number7 as his proof.   Everyone else feel free to cite Number7 as your source for believing the Russians had nothing to do with interfering in an American political campaign.  I'm sure it will lend an appropriate amount of legitimacy to your arguments that its all a made up lie by liberals. There you have it, case closed.

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Spin Zone / Re: Biden
« on: January 15, 2017, 05:29:24 PM »
You Really are that stupid.
Congratulations in having fully submersed yourself in propaganda for dummies.

Don't like the truth, call it fake news or propaganda but offer nothing to refute my statements or call me stupid but say nothing that proves your intellectual superiority.  Typical.  Nothing to see here, just move along.

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Spin Zone / Re: Bubba works to recruit big donors
« on: January 15, 2017, 03:31:16 PM »
Don't let it go to your head as I respond to a lot of jackasses just to pass the time.  Not that you fall into that group.  I would never state that fact since I let others make that judgement for themself.

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