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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: invflatspin on November 30, 2017, 07:45:36 PM
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Worth a read. Most important if you have small kids, or plan to have kids in the future.
I agree with this philosophy 100%.
http://reason.com/archives/2017/10/26/the-fragile-generation
It's super sad to me that most kids since 1980 won't get to have the time, energy, and freedom we had in the 60s. I don't want to over-analyze this, but it could have global implications in the future.
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I think the only one here who interacts with young people on a day to day basis is yours truly. And I can promise you that they're just fine. They're just like the generation before them, and the generation before that.
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I think the only one here who interacts with young people on a day to day basis is yours truly. And I can promise you that they're just fine. They're just like the generation before them, and the generation before that.
You have no idea how your evaluation makes me worry even more for the coming generation. If you are the bar to which the youth of America must pass, we are all surely doomed to a future as bleak as 1984.
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Brainwashed libby zombies.
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You have no idea how your evaluation makes me worry even more for the coming generation. If you are the bar to which the youth of America must pass, we are all surely doomed to a future as bleak as 1984.
X2. If he thinks they are OK we are screwed.
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I think the only one here who interacts with young people on a day to day basis is yours truly. And I can promise you that they're just fine. They're just like the generation before them, and the generation before that.
The Chairman of the Brightstar Line said something similar about the Titanic.
It wasn’t true, either.
And before you congratulate yourself on interacting with young people, LOTS OF US interact with young people everyday. You are neither special, nor privileged.
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The Chairman of the Brightstar Line said something similar about the Titanic.
It wasn’t true, either.
And before you congratulate yourself on interacting with young people, LOTS OF US interact with young people everyday. You are neither special, nor privileged.
I doubt any of you are employed to do it. And in better news I finally figured out why you call yourself number 7. I admit, it took awhile, but I got it in the end.
You call yourself number 7 because that’s the highest you can count....
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. . . but I got it in the end.
That explains a lot. Did you enjoy it? ;)
(I couldn't resist).
You call yourself number 7 because that’s the highest you can count....
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Everyone can render opinions but that's not the same as having facts. I don't know if there are any real studies addressing this, but it would be extremely complicated. There are probably good things and bad things that result from this change, and a lot of it is tied to technology. Are children spending far more time with their computers and devices than they are physically playing? Maybe, but some children always had their noses in books and rarely played, and if that hurt them in some ways (not as coordinated or strong physically) it helped in others (very brainy, grew up to be scientists and engineers).
But it's something else to extend that lack of outdoor play to almost all children. Who knows the consequence? As a collective, we are communicating with others and sharing information at insane rates compared to the past. Will this result in a positive change for mankind? Or negative? Probably both.
If you think in terms of the big picture, bubble wrapping kids today is preventing the weeding out of the genes that would tend to get you killed. That in turn will lead to mandatory bubble wrapping as we lose the ability to keep ourselves safe individually and come to depend on the existence of the bubble wrap. I don't really think that's a good thing.
Take emotion out of it: If only 11 kids were kidnapped and killed by strangers in one year, the benefit to the other what... millions of kids who were allowed to run free around town is more than worth it. As a whole the group will be much stronger except those 11 won't be there anymore. But no. We have to confine all our millions of children inside and let them become obese and lack superior development because we can't stomach the sacrifice of those 11.
But you can't make any parent accept that risk once it enters their head that their kid might be one of the 11. I didn't. I am sad to say I didn't let my kids run free the way I did. From the age of 7 I had the run of the entire town, end to end. Was it because my mom didn't care? No, she just was not cognizant of the kidnappings, you didn't have it in the media they way you do today.
The explosion of information sharing is a good thing and a bad thing and closely tied to the concerns of this article. But there is no putting the Genie back in the bottle. We'll just have to see where the future takes us.
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I doubt any of you are employed to do it. And in better news I finally figured out why you call yourself number 7. I admit, it took awhile, but I got it in the end.
I'm paid to interact with high school kids all day every day.
I see a lot of good kids, but I also see kids that have been so oversupplied and protected that they would rather not try something new than risk failure.
Because they have never been allowed to fail at anything, they are so terrified of the idea that they might fail they won't even try. I find that truly terrifying.
-Dan
You call yourself number 7 because that’s the highest you can count....
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I'm paid to interact with high school kids all day every day.
I see a lot of good kids, but I also see kids that have been so oversupplied and protected that they would rather not try something new than risk failure.
Because they have never been allowed to fail at anything, they are so terrified of the idea that they might fail they won't even try. I find that truly terrifying.
-Dan
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I'm paid to interact with high school kids all day every day.
I see a lot of good kids, but I also see kids that have been so oversupplied and protected that they would rather not try something new than risk failure.
Because they have never been allowed to fail at anything, they are so terrified of the idea that they might fail they won't even try. I find that truly terrifying.
-Dan
As someone else said recently, I 'Liked" that post because it spoke the truth. Not because I liked the truth it spoke.
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I'm paid to interact with high school kids all day every day.
I see a lot of good kids, but I also see kids that have been so oversupplied and protected that they would rather not try something new than risk failure.
Because they have never been allowed to fail at anything, they are so terrified of the idea that they might fail they won't even try. I find that truly terrifying.
-Dan
I knew kids like that when I was younger. Nothing at all has changed. I am very proud of the up and coming generation. They, like their predecessors, will do great things. I’ve no need of the pessimism and negativity I see on this board.
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I knew kids like that when I was younger. Nothing at all has changed. I am very proud of the up and coming generation. They, like their predecessors, will do great things. I’ve no need of the pessimism and negativity I see on this board.
Your self congratulatory bulls hit is just more egotistical, bragging, lacking substance, or truth.
You are like the asshole actress that claimed in Oscar speech that, actors and actresses ARE THE ONLY people who celebrate life. The moronic, snowflakes in the audience cheered but the egotism of that bullshit statement was so delusional (like a lot of your pronouncements) that it wasn’t worth responding.
You clowns are truly the new flat earthers. You proclaim you mmgw bullshit, without a single actual event to back up your religious claims and attack anyone who bothers to point out the lack of integrity in the faux science employed to fake the studies.
The progressive academic, science community is literally neither scientific, no academic. It’s all bullshit wrapped in politics, and dished our on a platter of threats and insults.
At some point you guys will run out of religious zealots eating up your lies and then you will reduced to talking to yourself.
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I originally was going to say that the Number 7 was your actual IQ. But I decided not to, as I felt it was too venal an insult
to those with single digit IQs.
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I originally was going to say that the Number 7 was your actual IQ. But I decided not to, as I felt it was too venal an insult
to those with single digit IQs.
Now I believe that you do work with kids. And it shows. You sound like a 3rd grader.
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Now I believe that you do work with kids. And it shows. You sound like a 3rd grader.
That would be an insult to the maturity of third graders.
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Play nice.
Steingar can’t funstion outside the protected, safe space, of academia, where he and his pathetic, loser, colleagues inflict their egos on young people all day long, pretending to be educators instead of brainwashing, totalitarian communists.
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Of course, the Number 7 could also refer to the number of books he’s read without coloring in them.
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Of course, the Number 7 could also refer to the number of books he’s read without coloring in them.
...and you (ave no talent for insults.
It’s really pathetic how shallow, predictable, and just plain, boring you are.
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...and you (ave no talent for insults.
It’s really pathetic how shallow, predictable, and just plain, boring you are.
No, he's actually good at insults! His students keep mentioning what an insult it is to be in one of his classes!
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No, he's actually good at insults! His students keep mentioning what an insult it is to be in one of his classes!
Of course, the Number 7 could also come from the time you won that card game with a pair of fours...
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Of course, the Number 7 could also come from the time you won that card game with a pair of fours...
I'd like to see things from your point of view but I can't seem to get my head that far up my ass.
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Of course, the Number 7 could also come from the time you won that card game with a pair of fours...
Poor, pathetic, snowflake.
You have nothing to fall back on, so when your pathetic opinions are challenged you go full third grader.
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Or it could be an homage to dwarf Number 7 in Snow White. He was, after all, Dopey.
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Or it could be an homage to dwarf Number 7 in Snow White. He was, after all, Dopey.
You are enjoying this; aren't you?
So am I.
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Poor Mikey.
He has no brain.
He has no thoughts.
He has no talent.
No wonder why he hates everyone who is talented, does things, succeeds and chooses to do not on the communist academic reservation where Mikey lives.
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CAn we get back to discussing the failure of a generation?
please
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CAn we get back to discussing the failure of a generation?
please
Open discussion board.
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CAn we get back to discussing the failure of a generation?
please
We are discussing a failure of a generation. Just not the one you were referring to.
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sigh
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Poor Mikey.
He has no brain.
He has no thoughts.
He has no talent.
No wonder why he hates everyone who is talented, does things, succeeds and chooses to do not on the communist academic reservation where Miley
Ives.
Perhaps the Number 7 refers to the number of women he's banged. After all, he could have 7 sisters.
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Here's some interesting quotes for the perfesser:
Shall I continue? These are the actual people that have to suffer you.
I gotta say, I think some of those quotes are by students that may have felt a little too challenged, and didn't have mama there to defend them. Students SHOULD feel challenged, and Mama should NOT be there to defend them.
But some of them do sound a little legitimate. Like telling personal stories, unless they relate to the course material.
Of course, if my interpretation are correct, then it proves the conclusions of the thread title.
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Perhaps the Number 7 refers to the number of women he's banged. After all, he could have 7 sisters.
Poor mike. Life must be so meaningless for you...
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Poor mike. Life must be so meaningless for you...
I thought perhaps the Number 7 referred to the number of ties in his closet, but I know that can’t be right, since he wears a tie every day.
To keep the foreskin from creeping up over his head.
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Poor, pathetic, Mikey...
Can’t seem to speak unless it is projecting his faults onto others, or simply lying about important he is.
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Come on you guys, what's next? Mother insults? :-\
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Poor, pathetic, Mikey...
Can’t seem to speak unless it is projecting his faults onto others, or simply lying about important he is.
Actually, I was wrong about the Number 7 pertaining to the whole sister thing. He would only need 6 sisters. After all, everyone has a mom.
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I thought perhaps the Number 7 referred to the number of ties in his closet, but I know that can’t be right, since he wears a tie every day.
To keep the foreskin from creeping up over his head.
Ok. It was funny for a while Michael: in a juvenile sort of way.
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Actually, I was wrong about the Number 7 pertaining to the whole sister thing. He would only need 6 sisters. After all, everyone has a mom.
I'm sure you share this pathetic side of yourself with your students, since it is all you have... a bunch of lame insults, and junior high school dick references.
Are you Bryan with a Y?
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As for the failure of a generation, look no further than our self-congratulatory, egotistical, uninformed, progressive (communist) academic.
He HATES the idea of success and surrounding himself with state imposed failures insures he can pretend to be superior, brag about his pathetic IQ and look down his ugly, pinched, nose at everyone as unwashed, uncouth, and definitely NOT his type of people.
The insecurity in his every post drips with fear and jealousy, because he and his kind can never be independent and unconcerned about what our peer group might say behind our backs.
His attitudes and anger are typical of the government these days, and partly because dependency and ignorance (which is what government education teaches these days) insures compliance and obedience.
Public schools and universities are failed septic tanks of stupidity and forced ignorance dedicated to subjugation instead of education.
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Public schools and universities are failed septic tanks of stupidity and forced ignorance dedicated to subjugation instead of education.
Just as I can't give credit to public schools or universities for our success in my family, neither can I completely condemn them for their failures. I had two kids go though public school in a very conservative area, then both went on to universities where they were a lot of liberal influence overall, but the school of engineering were quite conservative in outlook(people actually went to classes, listened to lectures, did homework, and studied like the end of the world was coming). Both graduated near the top of their class, and both are now contributing to the advancement of society in general, and to their respective employers and the people they serve directly.
It can be done, and all this in spite of the far left leaning education system. But - it's not easy, I will admit that. One of my kids was advanced enough to be considered for the Rhodes scholarship program. We got to one counselor who actually told us the truth. Although my student was outstanding academically, and very smart, they would almost surely not select her because of her lack of liberal social standing. And, when I looked at the CV for those chosen for the Rhodes scholarship for the past decade, the liberalism of the candidates was their only supporting virtue. Very sad, but the Rhodes scholarship is endowed at the discretion of those who put up the money, so I can't complain too hard, it's not my money.
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Just as I can't give credit to public schools or universities for our success in my family, neither can I completely condemn them for their failures. I had two kids go though public school in a very conservative area, then both went on to universities where they were a lot of liberal influence overall, but the school of engineering were quite conservative in outlook(people actually went to classes, listened to lectures, did homework, and studied like the end of the world was coming). Both graduated near the top of their class, and both are now contributing to the advancement of society in general, and to their respective employers and the people they serve directly.
It can be done, and all this in spite of the far left leaning education system. But - it's not easy, I will admit that. One of my kids was advanced enough to be considered for the Rhodes scholarship program. We got to one counselor who actually told us the truth. Although my student was outstanding academically, and very smart, they would almost surely not select her because of her lack of liberal social standing. And, when I looked at the CV for those chosen for the Rhodes scholarship for the past decade, the liberalism of the candidates was their only supporting virtue. Very sad, but the Rhodes scholarship is endowed at the discretion of those who put up the money, so I can't complain too hard, it's not my money.
The fact that anyone can point to an outlier and say it is 'possible' to succeed even so, is proof of my point. The system is being rigged for and by people who can't succeed on their merit.
I submit Steingar as an example. When challenged on almost any topic he retreats into hyperbole, protestations of his exceptional IQ, attacks on the parentage and sexual behavior of those who disagree, and juvenile attacks usually reserved for the junior high school playground. When those attacks are answered he either ups the anti, or devolves into shrieking hysterics, followed by proclamations of our group being morons and then running away to lick his wounds, or whatever infantile academic progressives lick when their safe space isn't as safe as they think they need.
A good educator would offer all theories, all opinions, all objective examination, instead of shouting, squealing, proclaiming that someone is racist, sexist, homophobic, toxically masculine, or one of the other approved insults used exclusively by weak and intolerant liberals.
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As for the failure of a generation, look no further than our self-congratulatory, egotistical, uninformed, progressive (communist) academic.
Public schools and universities are failed septic tanks of stupidity and forced ignorance dedicated to subjugation instead of education.
The 7 could refer to the number of M&Ms eaten by Number 7 in a sitting. He can't do any more since those things are so hard to peel.
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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
--Socrates
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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
--Socrates
Socrates did not write that. This article provides the original source:
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehaving-children-in-ancient-times/ (https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehaving-children-in-ancient-times/)
It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times.
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The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.
--Socrates
When I was in college I never saw or experienced snowflakes trying to shut down dissenting opinions and silence speech with which they disagree, often with violence, along with the acquiescence of university administrators who wish they were back in Berkeley.
Maybe that was your experience, since you say things haven’t changed, but it was not mine.
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Academic progressives (communists) are steadily losing and the incidence of violence, hate crimes perpetrated against those who dare not claim to support the communist agenda, and attacks on free speech are simply the rantings of angry, irrelevant, childish, adults who think the world owes them something.
Look at how often academic progressives (communists) are caught assaulting pro-life students, and the famous famous bitch from U of Missouri who actually organized violence against a student who represented a non-progressive (communist) rag. The number of older folks assaulted by ANTIFA and their communist affiliates for crimes ranging from wearing a red hat and another man who was MISTAKEN for one of the hated right and beaten by the violence loving leftists.
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Socrates did not write that. This article provides the original source:
https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehaving-children-in-ancient-times/ (https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehaving-children-in-ancient-times/)
It was crafted by a student, Kenneth John Freeman, for his Cambridge dissertation published in 1907. Freeman did not claim that the passage under analysis was a direct quotation of anyone; instead, he was presenting his own summary of the complaints directed against young people in ancient times.
And once again we find the perfesser writing something blatantly untrue and not a hint of fact checking.
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And once again we find the perfesser writing something blatantly untrue and not a hint of fact checking.
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Why doesn’t Lucifer like screwing in light bulbs?
His junk isn’t that small!
But onto something a little more serious. That quote is a bit mysterious, and I have seen it attributed to a number of dead notable people. The main point is curmudgeons have been making the same observations for a very, very long time. My parents heard it from their parents, and I heard it from them.
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But onto something a little more serious. That quote is a bit mysterious, and I have seen it attributed to a number of dead notable people. The main point is curmudgeons have been making the same observations for a very, very long time. My parents heard it from their parents, and I heard it from them.
But you said it was Socrates. You didn't even bother to fact check it. And yet we see a pattern as you've posted several items that were shown later to be false or misrepresented.
If you want to make a point, credibility matters.
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But you said it was Socrates. You didn't even bother to fact check it. And yet we see a pattern as you've posted several items that were shown later to be false or misrepresented.
If you want to make a point, credibility matters.
You are correct.
But I understood, and agreed with the point he was trying to make anyway.
He was saying that older generations complaining about younger generations is as old as time itself. But that doesn't make the older generations wrong. It is just that human kind is versatile enough to overcome most of the idiocies, weaknesses and failures of youth.
But while this younger generation may not be idiots, they are certainly IMNSHO, weak. Not genetically of course, but physically and socially.