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« on: April 21, 2017, 06:03:06 AM »
Legal and moral are two different things. I can agree that legally, a baby is not a person with full rights until birth. And not even then if the birth is before viability. For example, if I miscarry at an early stage and the baby is the size of a pea and I inadvertently flush it down the toilet, I do not want to be charged with the crime of not disposing properly of a body, and I would not want to deal with the paperwork of filing a birth certificate and a death certificate. There is a point where it is unreasonable to declare a fetus, or especially an embryo, a person in every LEGAL sense.
But the unborn doesn't need to be a person with full rights in order for us to make induced abortion a crime. We have laws against animal cruelty without giving animals personhood. So the whole discussion about what point the baby is considered a person in his own right is moot as I see it.
But morally it's completely different. I believe cutting up a baby while inside is exactly the same thing as cutting him up after birth. A baby has the same thoughts and feelings and physical senses moments after birth as he did moments before. Going back to an earlier stage of pregnancy you can argue not. A baby - fetus - embryo - needs brain cells and a nervous system to have these qualities. But all the way to conception it contains a unique set of DNA and there is no clear dividing line where morally you can be certain you aren't killing a legitimate human. And since there is no clear line, in my view, you must go all the way back to conception. But not before. You're not killing a potential human by spilling seed in the shower or using birth control. That's carrying things too far.
Personally and morally, if someone has an abortion at any stage, I feel it's a human, for example, hypothetical only, if my grown child had an abortion for convenience, I would never forgive them for killing my grandchild.
Killing is a factual term but murder is a legal term. Abortion at any stage and for any reason is to kill a human being. But whether it is murder depends on the legal status. If it is legal to have an abortion to save the mother, then that would not be murder; it would be homicide in self defense.
But legally, at what point and for what reasons someone may have an abortion is a matter too contentious and complex that I do what we should: Look to the law. Hence my position that constitutionally the feds should stay out of it, and on a state level, I have no place to say in 49 states, and if it were put to a vote in MY state, I'd vote with my conscience, where ever that led me considering the particulars of the bill.