PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Rush on December 02, 2020, 10:39:04 AM
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I just heard a radio ad from the U.S. Dept of Agriculture to "keep animals off your table" this holiday. Now the government is officially pushing vegetarianism? Just when more and more science is coming out proving the benefits of carnivore and keto/paleo diets? Unbelievable. Follow the money... wheat, corn, soybeans, you would not believe the amounts of these carbs shipped around the U.S. to be consumed to cause our obesity and diabetes.
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I just heard a radio ad from the U.S. Dept of Agriculture to "keep animals off your table" this holiday. Now the government is officially pushing vegetarianism? Just when more and more science is coming out proving the benefits of carnivore and keto/paleo diets? Unbelievable. Follow the money... wheat, corn, soybeans, you would not believe the amounts of these carbs shipped around the U.S. to be consumed to cause our obesity and diabetes.
all the animals can wait for table-scraps (if any)...
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I just heard a radio ad from the U.S. Dept of Agriculture to "keep animals off your table" this holiday. Now the government is officially pushing vegetarianism? Just when more and more science is coming out proving the benefits of carnivore and keto/paleo diets? Unbelievable. Follow the money... wheat, corn, soybeans, you would not believe the amounts of these carbs shipped around the U.S. to be consumed to cause our obesity and diabetes.
The food pyramid was such a scam. 6-11 servings of grains and carbs a day along with the vilification of proteins and good fats? No wonder so many are obese, suffer diabetes, etc.
Scam!
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If God hadn't wanted us to eat animals, then He shouldn't have made them out of food.
If God hadn't wanted us to eat animals, then He should have made it fun to hunt broccoli
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I just heard a radio ad from the U.S. Dept of Agriculture to "keep animals off your table" this holiday. Now the government is officially pushing vegetarianism? Just when more and more science is coming out proving the benefits of carnivore and keto/paleo diets? Unbelievable. Follow the money... wheat, corn, soybeans, you would not believe the amounts of these carbs shipped around the U.S. to be consumed to cause our obesity and diabetes.
I think what it meant was to kill your cat.
I’m a dog guy, but the thought of cats up on tables and counters grossed me out.
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I think what it meant was to kill your cat.
I’m a dog guy, but the thought of cats up on tables and counters grossed me out.
Oh God I have a thing about that. I can't STAND cats all over the kitchen counter and dining table. YUCK!!! Especially if they are outdoor cats. Killing mice and wallowing in God knows what. And don't tell me they are clean animals. Won't fly.
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I've lost the battles with cats on table/countertop. I still throw them off when I see them, but they don't care. They still go on them whenever they feel like it.
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It sounds remarkably like the preponderance of doctors from India are pushing their religious agenda about animals thru the assholes in DC and the moron mommy lobby.
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I've lost the battles with cats on table/countertop. I still throw them off when I see them, but they don't care. They still go on them whenever they feel like it.
Yep, cats don’t care. That’s why I don’t have any. My dogs were little so they couldn’t reach the kitchen counter. I’m territorial about the kitchen and eating surfaces. I don’t even like people hanging over them.
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Been a vegetarian for over 35 years. I spend less on food, and have maintained my girlish figure better than anyone I know (though still not to my own satisfaction). I eat lots of yummy food. Helps to know how to cook.
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Been a vegetarian for over 35 years. I spend less on food, and have maintained my girlish figure better than anyone I know (though still not to my own satisfaction). I eat lots of yummy food. Helps to know how to cook.
careful there... are you announcing to the world that you have maintained your girlish figure better than, oh, the Mrs?
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careful there... are you announcing to the world that you have maintained your girlish figure better than, oh, the Mrs?
I never said that and wouldn't. I like my privates attached.
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Been a vegetarian for over 35 years. I spend less on food, and have maintained my girlish figure better than anyone I know (though still not to my own satisfaction). I eat lots of yummy food. Helps to know how to cook.
I love steak amd bacon too much to be vegetarian, but wouldn't mind some recipes or resources if you are willing to share. My 3 year old told me I'm getting old and fat.
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I never said that and wouldn't. I like my privates attached.
reread your post. You said you've maintained it better than anyone you know.
Perhaps you don't know Mrs.
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Yep, cats don’t care. That’s why I don’t have any. My dogs were little so they couldn’t reach the kitchen counter. I’m territorial about the kitchen and eating surfaces. I don’t even like people hanging over them.
My wife brought the cats, I brought the dog into the relationship. We decided no more animals when they are gone.
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reread your post. You said you've maintained it better than anyone you know.
Perhaps you don't know Mrs.
Well put, but I still didn't say I was better maintained than my Mrs. She might say that, but she might not, and that's all I'll say on the matter.
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I love steak amd bacon too much to be vegetarian, but wouldn't mind some recipes or resources if you are willing to share. My 3 year old told me I'm getting old and fat.
What do you want to make? I have all sorts of recipes.
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What do you want to make? I have all sorts of recipes.
I'm partial to Indian or Middle Eastern. I know they have vegetarian dishes. I had Ethiopian vegetarian at a wedding a few years ago, but didn't like how some of it was served cold.
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My wife brought the cats, I brought the dog into the relationship. We decided no more animals when they are gone.
Our dogs died a few years ago and we will not get any more pets. I can’t go through it again. (Their sickness and deaths.)
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Our dogs died a few years ago and we will not get any more pets. I can’t go through it again. (Their sickness and deaths.)
Oldest cat is 18, and is looking rough. Really thin, think he has diabetes. Dog is 14 in a few days. Really slowed down, thinks real hard if he is going to go up and down the stairs. Think it hurts him and he and is going deaf. Next cat is 10, and still going strong.
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What do you want to make? I have all sorts of recipes.
Would anyone else like to see a recipe thread? I don't really see an appropriate forum, but what difference does that make? It could be right here in Spin Zone.
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Our dogs died a few years ago and we will not get any more pets. I can’t go through it again. (Their sickness and deaths.)
We had to put our oldest lab, Guinness, to sleep on 8/15. Here he is with our daughter’s two lab boys. Our daughter did it in her yard with all of us around him.
We think we will get another one next fall. My wife is still grieving, but we can’t see our lives without these gentle boys.
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Would anyone else like to see a recipe thread? I don't really see an appropriate forum, but what difference does that make? It could be right here in Spin Zone.
I'd contribute to it.
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Our dogs died a few years ago and we will not get any more pets. I can’t go through it again. (Their sickness and deaths.)
It's really really hard to lose a good friend dog. We adopt senior dogs because they are the hardest to place. They have more health problems and are only briefly a member of our family, but we're in a position to give them the best medical care and the best life possible for the time they have left. It tears us up when it's their time, yet we still do it. And I can remember good times with each and every one. I think that makes it worth the pain of loss.
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We adopt senior dogs because they are the hardest to place.
huge thumbs up for that.
HUGE
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I'm partial to Indian or Middle Eastern. I know they have vegetarian dishes. I had Ethiopian vegetarian at a wedding a few years ago, but didn't like how some of it was served cold.
I make tempe, which is Indian in origin. It requires a starter for the fermentation, and you have to control the temperature during fermentation. My favorite vegan protein source, since it have complete protein (the soy from which I make it doesn't, but the edible fungus that ferments the soy does). I'll be making a curry soon, but to be honest the recipe is sufficiently complex and variable that I'm not really wanting to pass it on. Not trying to keep secrets, just don't want to type that much.
Try this. Get one block of Tofu. Freeze. Thaw. Freeze again. Thaw again. Drain out all the water and I do mean all. You'll start by putting your heaviest cutting board on top of it and piling on heavy soup cans. I fill my kettle and put it on. After about 20 minutes I take the Tofu out and manually squeeze it, gets even more water out. Cut into 8 pieces.
While draining the Tofu mix up the following marinade:
• 1/3 cup coconut milk from a can
• 1 tablespoons curry powder
• ½ tsp cumin
• 1 tbsp lime juice
• 2 tbsp brown sugar
• 2 spring onion, sliced
• ¼ c loosely chopped cilantro leaves
• ½ tbsp. fresh ginger, grated
• 1 garlic clove, minced
Not my recipe, but it's good. Marinate the Tofu about 30 minutes, make certain all the pieces are covered. Sautee the Tofu over medium heat until both sides are browned. Use the remaining marinade as a sauce. Serve with rice and the vegetable of your choice.
That marinade can be put on almost anything and it'll be good. Works really well with Tofu because tofu doesn't taste like anything.
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Our dogs died a few years ago and we will not get any more pets. I can’t go through it again. (Their sickness and deaths.)
I have two pet tortoises. I won't have to live through their demise because if I do everything right they'll handily outlive me. I'll have to find someone to pass them onto. Not hard, tortoises are actually very popular pets. Easily fed and very personable. Don't have a photo on this machine otherwise I'd post one. And if I want to go somewhere I just leave them. They're reptiles, they can go for a long time without food with no undue consequences.
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We had to put our oldest lab, Guinness, to sleep on 8/15. Here he is with our daughter’s two lab boys. Our daughter did it in her yard with all of us around him.
Just in case anyone is wondering, Stan's daughter is a veterinarian.
We think we will get another one next fall. My wife is still grieving, but we can’t see our lives without these gentle boys.
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When we owned a veterinary clinic, one of the most often heard phrases after putting a pet to sleep was that they will never have another pet because losing them is too hard. Our answer was that it might take time, but the healing from the loss doesn't really start until you get another pet. I can't even begin to tell you how many people thanked us later and told us we were right after they got that new kitten or puppy, or even an older pet.
On the other hand, when our two pass on, we probably won't replace them because we like to travel too much, and they don't. With cats we can leave for a day or two and put out more food and litter, but that doesn't work for longer stays or for dogs. And it wouldn't be a good idea for a single cat that like to socialize. So we will go petless, at least till our travelling days are done.
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Just in case anyone is wondering, Stan's daughter is a veterinarian.When we owned a veterinary clinic, one of the most often heard phrases after putting a pet to sleep was that they will never have another pet because losing them is too hard. Our answer was that it might take time, but the healing from the loss doesn't really start until you get another pet. I can't even begin to tell you how many people thanked us later and told us we were right after they got that new kitten or puppy, or even an older pet.
On the other hand, when our two pass on, we probably won't replace them because we like to travel too much, and they don't. With cats we can leave for a day or two and put out more food and litter, but that doesn't work for longer stays or for dogs. And it wouldn't be a good idea for a single cat that like to socialize. So we will go petless, at least till our travelling days are done.
Whoops. Thanks for the clarification Joe. Yes, she’s a veterinarian and has the appropriate drugs for humane euthanasia. She hates it but she’s good at it. Same with large animal, but it’s decidedly less peaceful. She usually uses a captive bolt when the farmer wants to save the meat.
Are your travels in your Bonanza? I would think bringing pets would be easy.
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Just in case anyone is wondering, Stan's daughter is a veterinarian.When we owned a veterinary clinic, one of the most often heard phrases after putting a pet to sleep was that they will never have another pet because losing them is too hard. Our answer was that it might take time, but the healing from the loss doesn't really start until you get another pet. I can't even begin to tell you how many people thanked us later and told us we were right after they got that new kitten or puppy, or even an older pet.
On the other hand, when our two pass on, we probably won't replace them because we like to travel too much, and they don't. With cats we can leave for a day or two and put out more food and litter, but that doesn't work for longer stays or for dogs. And it wouldn't be a good idea for a single cat that like to socialize. So we will go petless, at least till our travelling days are done.
It’s not just the pain of losing them. I’m getting too old myself to caretake sick old dogs. Plus the freedom issue you mention. Now that our kids are gone and the dogs are dead, our marriage has really spiced up, we can pay all our attention and affection on each other. Without audiences.
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Are your travels in your Bonanza? I would think bringing pets would be easy.
Yeah, our travels are in the Bonanza. But we have cats and they hate traveling. They hate being put in carriers to go to the plane. They seem to hate the noise. They hate rental car rides. They hate motel rooms. They hate being put in the carrier to go home.
When we do finally get them to the hotel they hide under the bed the whole time. They don't eat. And when we finally get them home, they hide again and act like they hate us for about a week.
Back when I thought I was a dog person, I took my dogs everywhere. But after getting married I found out that I was wrong and that I was really a cat person. But it is really a pain to travel with cats. Even if they have learned that they NEVER get up on tables or kitchen counters. When my wife was in vet school, we went over to a friend of hers, ONE TIME. She had cats everywhere. They were on the table, the counters. They walked across the stove (it wasn't hot). She even left her cabinet doors open because the cats liked to hide in amongst the dishes and cereal boxes. As much as we both love cats, we never went back there.
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Yeah, our travels are in the Bonanza. But we have cats and they hate traveling. They hate being put in carriers to go to the plane. They seem to hate the noise. They hate rental car rides. They hate motel rooms. They hate being put in the carrier to go home.
When we do finally get them to the hotel they hide under the bed the whole time. They don't eat. And when we finally get them home, they hide again and act like they hate us for about a week.
Back when I thought I was a dog person, I took my dogs everywhere. But after getting married I found out that I was wrong and that I was really a cat person. But it is really a pain to travel with cats. Even if they have learned that they NEVER get up on tables or kitchen counters. When my wife was in vet school, we went over to a friend of hers, ONE TIME. She had cats everywhere. They were on the table, the counters. They walked across the stove (it wasn't hot). She even left her cabinet doors open because the cats liked to hide in amongst the dishes and cereal boxes. As much as we both love cats, we never went back there.
You “thought” you were a dog person, but you were “wrong?”
Poor Joe. You sound like this comedian. This is an awesome 8 minutes for anyone who is or has been married.
https://youtu.be/ntvyMfRPKBM
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You “thought” you were a dog person, but you were “wrong?”
Poor Joe. You sound like this comedian. This is an awesome 8 minutes for anyone who is or has been married.
https://youtu.be/ntvyMfRPKBM
Thanks Stan. I haven't laughed that much (at myself) in years. Anthony might not understand it, but that explains his track record. He THINKS he should be allowed to think for himself.
I actually think I am hungry now, but I'm sure if I ask, I'll find out I'm not.
I also think I need a drink now. No. I'm sure of it.
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You “thought” you were a dog person, but you were “wrong?”
Poor Joe. You sound like this comedian. This is an awesome 8 minutes for anyone who is or has been married.
https://youtu.be/ntvyMfRPKBM
Mark and I had that exact encounter with the open door and bugs coming in the other night. And we’ve been married 35 years too. I don’t make him wear pink shirts though.
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Mark and I had that exact encounter with the open door and bugs coming in the other night. And we’ve been married 35 years too. I don’t make him wear pink shirts though.
That wasn't pink. It was hibiscus. You just might have to turn in your woman-card.
Before I was married, I might have called it light red. Now that I'm married, I know that very little stuff is red. There is pink, rose, salmon, hibiscus, scarlet, crimson, ruby, fuchsia, carmine and a whole host of others. She asked me which lipstick I like on her. I said "red". She scowled and said she doesn't have any red lipstick. She showed me a half dozen and they all looked red(ish) to me.
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That wasn't pink. It was hibiscus. You just might have to turn in your woman-card.
Before I was married, I might have called it light red. Now that I'm married, I know that very little stuff is red. There is pink, rose, salmon, hibiscus, scarlet, crimson, ruby, fuchsia, carmine and a whole host of others. She asked me which lipstick I like on her. I said "red". She scowled and said she doesn't have any red lipstick. She showed me a half dozen and they all looked red(ish) to me.
I might be a she-male of some sort because I don’t do the obscure color variance thing, nor do I buy shoes or want jewelry. I like guns and airplanes. But in many ways I’m the wife of the video. You don’t hold the door open and let bugs in, and there is a right and a wrong order to brushing and flossing your teeth. My husband does it the wrong way. He also does many other things the wrong way and I have failed to make him change in most of them. Others he knows better and has learned to do it my way. We cannot figure out which one of us is dominant in the relationship.
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I might be a she-male of some sort because I don’t do the obscure color variance thing, nor do I buy shoes or want jewelry. I like guns and airplanes. But in many ways I’m the wife of the video. You don’t hold the door open and let bugs in, and there is a right and a wrong order to brushing and flossing your teeth. My husband does it the wrong way. He also does many other things the wrong way and I have failed to make him change in most of them. Others he knows better and has learned to do it my way. We cannot figure out which one of us is dominant in the relationship.
Be reasonable! do it my way!
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I might be a she-male of some sort because I don’t do the obscure color variance thing, nor do I buy shoes or want jewelry. I like guns and airplanes. But in many ways I’m the wife of the video. You don’t hold the door open and let bugs in, and there is a right and a wrong order to brushing and flossing your teeth. My husband does it the wrong way. He also does many other things the wrong way and I have failed to make him change in most of them. Others he knows better and has learned to do it my way. We cannot figure out which one of us is dominant in the relationship.
Just out of curiosity, which way do you think is the correct order of brushing and flossing? To my surprise, my dentist and hygienist said you should actually floss before you brush. If you brush first, you brush right over the crud. THEN you floss and remove the crud but the plaque forming bacteria is still there. He also told me that most people use waaaaaay too much tooth paste because all the commercials show them putting a line of paste the length of the brush. He told me to but a dab of paste in the middle of the brush. I have been doing it that way and I still get a good lather.
And that reminds me of a story my marketing professor told on the first day of class. He said that a tooth past manufacturer held a contest for ideas on how to sell more toothpaste. The winner was an intern from the local junior college. His suggestion: Make the hole in the tube bigger. Most people put a strip of paste as long as the brush. If the hole is bigger, there will be more paste in that strip and people will have to buy tubes more often.
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I might be a she-male of some sort because I don’t do the obscure color variance thing, nor do I buy shoes or want jewelry. I like guns and airplanes. But in many ways I’m the wife of the video. You don’t hold the door open and let bugs in, and there is a right and a wrong order to brushing and flossing your teeth. My husband does it the wrong way. He also does many other things the wrong way and I have failed to make him change in most of them. Others he knows better and has learned to do it my way. We cannot figure out which one of us is dominant in the relationship.
Well at least he’s getting lucky!!
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Just out of curiosity, which way do you think is the correct order of brushing and flossing? To my surprise, my dentist and hygienist said you should actually floss before you brush. If you brush first, you brush right over the crud. THEN you floss and remove the crud but the plaque forming bacteria is still there. He also told me that most people use waaaaaay too much tooth paste because all the commercials show them putting a line of paste the length of the brush. He told me to but a dab of paste in the middle of the brush. I have been doing it that way and I still get a good lather.
And that reminds me of a story my marketing professor told on the first day of class. He said that a tooth past manufacturer held a contest for ideas on how to sell more toothpaste. The winner was an intern from the local junior college. His suggestion: Make the hole in the tube bigger. Most people put a strip of paste as long as the brush. If the hole is bigger, there will be more paste in that strip and people will have to buy tubes more often.
While I now shave my head every day, I remember the old days of shampoo bottles telling me to “wash, rinse, repeat.”
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Well at least he’s getting lucky!!
And so am I. ;D
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Just out of curiosity, which way do you think is the correct order of brushing and flossing? To my surprise, my dentist and hygienist said you should actually floss before you brush. If you brush first, you brush right over the crud. THEN you floss and remove the crud but the plaque forming bacteria is still there. He also told me that most people use waaaaaay too much tooth paste because all the commercials show them putting a line of paste the length of the brush. He told me to but a dab of paste in the middle of the brush. I have been doing it that way and I still get a good lather.
And that reminds me of a story my marketing professor told on the first day of class. He said that a tooth past manufacturer held a contest for ideas on how to sell more toothpaste. The winner was an intern from the local junior college. His suggestion: Make the hole in the tube bigger. Most people put a strip of paste as long as the brush. If the hole is bigger, there will be more paste in that strip and people will have to buy tubes more often.
I don’t “think” brushing first is the right way, I know it is. It’s the way my mother did it and the way all my dentists except one have done it. (That one was wrong.)
If you floss first then you’re flicking all kinds of large chunks everywhere that are disgusting. If you brush first the brushing gets rid of the majority of large chunks and all that’s left is what’s jammed tight between the teeth and those surfaces are not really reached by the brush anyway. You should not be brushing real hard to try to reach them either. One of my dentists put it this way: “Daily brushing should be like gently wiping down a surface, not hard scrubbing. That damages the enamel. Leave the hard cleaning to us.”
I agree about the toothpaste.
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I make tempe, which is Indian in origin. It requires a starter for the fermentation, and you have to control the temperature during fermentation. My favorite vegan protein source, since it have complete protein (the soy from which I make it doesn't, but the edible fungus that ferments the soy does). I'll be making a curry soon, but to be honest the recipe is sufficiently complex and variable that I'm not really wanting to pass it on. Not trying to keep secrets, just don't want to type that much.
Try this. Get one block of Tofu. Freeze. Thaw. Freeze again. Thaw again. Drain out all the water and I do mean all. You'll start by putting your heaviest cutting board on top of it and piling on heavy soup cans. I fill my kettle and put it on. After about 20 minutes I take the Tofu out and manually squeeze it, gets even more water out. Cut into 8 pieces.
While draining the Tofu mix up the following marinade:
• 1/3 cup coconut milk from a can
• 1 tablespoons curry powder
• ½ tsp cumin
• 1 tbsp lime juice
• 2 tbsp brown sugar
• 2 spring onion, sliced
• ¼ c loosely chopped cilantro leaves
• ½ tbsp. fresh ginger, grated
• 1 garlic clove, minced
Not my recipe, but it's good. Marinate the Tofu about 30 minutes, make certain all the pieces are covered. Sautee the Tofu over medium heat until both sides are browned. Use the remaining marinade as a sauce. Serve with rice and the vegetable of your choice.
That marinade can be put on almost anything and it'll be good. Works really well with Tofu because tofu doesn't taste like anything.
Everything sounds good except tofu. Allergic to soy.
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Everything sounds good except tofu. Allergic to soy.
That marinade will make just about anything taste good. I use it on Tofu because it needs the most dressing up.
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Just out of curiosity, which way do you think is the correct order of brushing and flossing? To my surprise, my dentist and hygienist said you should actually floss before you brush. If you brush first, you brush right over the crud.
I don’t “think” brushing first is the right way, I know it is. It’s the way my mother did it and the way all my dentists except one have done it. (That one was wrong.)
HAH! I was right!
2: Clean between your teeth
It might sound backward, but yes, you’re supposed to floss before you brush your teeth. As Wadia explains, a toothbrush (even when used effectively) can only reach the front and back sides of teeth. Flossing after you brush is certainly better than not flossing at all — she likens no flossing at all to only cleaning one side of a dirty dish and putting it back in the cupboard. That said, it’s best if the floss comes first “so that when you do brush your teeth, the toothpaste can have good access in between the teeth,” says Wadia.
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/dentists-reveal-the-correct-order-to-brush-your-teeth-floss-and-use-mouthwash
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HAH! I was right!
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/dentists-reveal-the-correct-order-to-brush-your-teeth-floss-and-use-mouthwash
Since when do we believe anything we read on the internet?
I’ll have you know I recently had my teeth cleaned and the hygienist did the flossing last, after she was done with all the scraping and polishing. So I’m still right. :D
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Nope. Floss first, rinse with mouthwash to remove the ick, then brush. This is the only proper way to do it. So there! :)
I think the dental assistant flosses last to get rid of all the polishing compound that might get stuck between the teeth.
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Nope. Floss first, rinse with mouthwash to remove the ick, then brush. This is the only proper way to do it. So there! :)
I think the dental assistant flosses last to get rid of all the polishing compound that might get stuck between the teeth.
My dentist has forbidden me to use mouthwash. I’m in the middle of getting an implant and something about the gum healing over the bone graft which takes like 6 months and mouthwash isn’t good for it. I’ll have to ask but I got the idea he doesn’t like it in general because of the alcohol being too much of a drying agent.
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My dentist has forbidden me to use mouthwash. I’m in the middle of getting an implant and something about the gum healing over the bone graft which takes like 6 months and mouthwash isn’t good for it. I’ll have to ask but I got the idea he doesn’t like it in general because of the alcohol being too much of a drying agent.
I have heard that you shouldn't use mouthwash with alcohol after dental surgery because it damages the new healing cells.
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I have heard that you shouldn't use mouthwash with alcohol after dental surgery because it damages the new healing cells.
There you go. The next step is in June when he will install the titanium screw. Then it heals some more and he will cap it in the fall. The whole process will take a year.
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About 20 years ago I had an implant done. The Doc who did it had a sense of humor. He said that we would have to build up the bone structure so asked me if I preferred human or cow bone. Told him cow bone since my wife says I'm full of bullshit. A few months later I went back for him to see how everything was knitting together. On this visit I had a 1/2 inch wood drill bit told him he left it in my mouth on my last visit. A lady (whom I had thought was a nurse) standing next to him fainted. We caught her before she hit the floor. He and the real nurses were laughing hard. The implant has given me no problems at all over the last 20 years. He checked it out last year and said it is doing very well. The color matches the rest very well and visually you can't tell the difference.
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There you go. The next step is in June when he will install the titanium screw. Then it heals some more and he will cap it in the fall. The whole process will take a year.
But you should still floss before brushing.
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Yeah, the alcohol mouth washes are bad to keep on your teeth and bad for healing. Good for de-bugging any damage done by flossing too vigorously. I floss / flush / brush. The flush is good for cleaning out the flossed debris and such. Brushing after flushing is for cleaning out the alcohol. My mouth got really dry with floss / brush / flush, so I switched.
My neck fusion and foot reconstruction used cadaver bone. Didn't have any choice. The doctor asked me if I wanted to know who the donor was. Nope nope nope.
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About 20 years ago I had an implant done. The Doc who did it had a sense of humor. He said that we would have to build up the bone structure so asked me if I preferred human or cow bone. Told him cow bone since my wife says I'm full of bullshit. A few months later I went back for him to see how everything was knitting together. On this visit I had a 1/2 inch wood drill bit told him he left it in my mouth on my last visit. A lady (whom I had thought was a nurse) standing next to him fainted. We caught her before she hit the floor. He and the real nurses were laughing hard. The implant has given me no problems at all over the last 20 years. He checked it out last year and said it is doing very well. The color matches the rest very well and visually you can't tell the difference.
My choices were cadaver bone (human) or cow, or pig, or he could do a newfangled procedure where he uses no bone but takes blood from me, puts it in a fancy machine in the back, does some kind of magic to it to turn it into a concoction that he puts in the socket that somehow signals my own immune system to target the area to grow new bone. That’s the one he uses on high risk patients because it works best and has the least rate of complications but it is more expensive. I said, do that one.
So the day came and they had a hard time finding a vein. The nurse and the dentist were teaming up trying to get blood. They had to poke me five times but they had given me laughing gas. It hurt like hell (these are not practiced phlebotomists). Not only did I not care that it hurt, I thought it was the most hilarious thing in the world.
So he pulls the tooth which was even funnier. He took his time (apparently there’s a technique to it that minimizes trauma to the adjacent tissue or whatever) so he’s got the pliers in there, wiggling that tooth around and I’m just giggling up a storm. He moved it this way: Hilarious! He moved it that way: OMG that’s even funnier! Bwahahahaha!!
So he gets the blood product from the back and fools around with it mumbling something about a bit of my bone clinging to the tooth that he can mix in there, and stuffs it back into the socket and stitches it up. So that was about 5 months ago, I went in for the x-ray recently and he said it looks great, the bone is growing back well and I don’t have a “collapsed sinus” which would have required a whole different procedure so it all looks real good. Wait another few weeks and we will be ready to install the post.
In the meantime I’ve had to get used to eating with a missing molar.
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Y'all are missing the point regarding brushing and flossing. The dumb-ass public thinks the routine is to remove food, when in reality, it's to remove plaque -- specifically the bacteria which produce plaque. With that in mind, it really doesn't matter which you do first. Personally, I floss first.
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Y'all are missing the point regarding brushing and flossing. The dumb-ass public thinks the routine is to remove food, when in reality, it's to remove plaque -- specifically the bacteria which produce plaque. With that in mind, it really doesn't matter which you do first. Personally, I floss first.
I'll go with that.
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Y'all are missing the point regarding brushing and flossing. The dumb-ass public thinks the routine is to remove food, when in reality, it's to remove plaque -- specifically the bacteria which produce plaque. With that in mind, it really doesn't matter which you do first. Personally, I floss first.
does flossing actually embed food and plaque into your gums? I have a cleaning scheduled for Monday and hope to remember to ask the hygienist/
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While we're talking about teeth and dentistry, late last year I went in for my cleaning. They took the traditional bite wing x-rays and then the dentist, new to this practice, came in. She told me I had an infection starting in #2 and needed to go see an Endodontist to get a root canal. I go there, go through all kind of x-rays and the Endodontist comes in to tell me I don't need a root canal, here's a prescription for an antibiotic to stop the infection and your dentist need to pull the tooth. That was what I got for $400+. Says he'll send a report to the dentist office. The tooth has a crown and he says the tooth is split under the crown. I never heard from the dentist, the tooth has never bothered me. I think my cleaning comes up in May. Gonna thank them for costing me $400+.
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does flossing actually embed food and plaque into your gums?
No.
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While we're talking about teeth and dentistry, late last year I went in for my cleaning. They took the traditional bite wing x-rays and then the dentist, new to this practice, came in. She told me I had an infection starting in #2 and needed to go see an Endodontist to get a root canal. I go there, go through all kind of x-rays and the Endodontist comes in to tell me I don't need a root canal, here's a prescription for an antibiotic to stop the infection and your dentist need to pull the tooth. That was what I got for $400+. Says he'll send a report to the dentist office. The tooth has a crown and he says the tooth is split under the crown. I never heard from the dentist, the tooth has never bothered me. I think my cleaning comes up in May. Gonna thank them for costing me $400+.
Maybe she was not only new to the practice, but new to dentistry and didn't have the experience to know it was not fixable.
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While we're talking about teeth and dentistry, late last year I went in for my cleaning. They took the traditional bite wing x-rays and then the dentist, new to this practice, came in. She told me I had an infection starting in #2 and needed to go see an Endodontist to get a root canal. I go there, go through all kind of x-rays and the Endodontist comes in to tell me I don't need a root canal, here's a prescription for an antibiotic to stop the infection and your dentist need to pull the tooth. That was what I got for $400+. Says he'll send a report to the dentist office. The tooth has a crown and he says the tooth is split under the crown. I never heard from the dentist, the tooth has never bothered me. I think my cleaning comes up in May. Gonna thank them for costing me $400+.
Based on my experience last year, I think both of them might be right. You might have a small infection and an antibiotic is only a temporary solution. The infection will recur because the pathway that allowed bacteria in is still there (the crack in the tooth). No they will not do a root canal if the tooth is cracked and yes, you will ultimately need to get it pulled.
This is what I went though last year. Except I had pain in the tooth, and I’d already had a root canal. The dentist took an x-ray and showed me, it is a shadow representing a pocket of infection between the tooth root and the bone. Your dentist should have pointed out something like that to you on the x-ray.
He gave me an antibiotic and sent me to the endodontist to drill through the crown and dig out the old root canal filler and directly inspect the infected pocket, then either redo the root canal or, if the tooth is cracked, send me back to have the tooth pulled. When I went in to the endodontist for that, I told her I was no longer in any pain so didn’t the antibiotic cure me? Now we don’t need to do anything? That’s when she told me, no, it doesn’t really cure it, these things tend to come back.
She drilled through and when she got in she said, yep, there is a pocket of pus. So she cleaned it out and packed it with antibiotic ointment and put a temporary filling in. She told me she did see a crack so she wasn’t going to do another root canal repair, but I’d have to get it pulled. As I recall she charged me exactly $400 also. When I got back to the dentist and he pulled it, he did another thorough clean out before he put back that blood concoction.
Just because the tooth isn’t bothering you doesn’t mean all is well. The infection is eating away at the bone under the tooth. It will eventually start hurting, assuming you did have an infection and the antibiotic didn’t completely cure it, and I suspect that’s the case if your endodontist believed that was the case. I expect when you go back to the dentist they’ll do another x-ray. That should show if the pocket of suspected infection has gone away, stayed the same or gotten bigger. You might have to ask if they even read the report from the endodontist, maybe they expected you to take the initiative and call them for the followup.
If they can show you that shadow on the imaging, might want to go ahead and do something rather than wait til it starts hurting. When mine started hurting it went from zero to real bad pretty quickly.
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Maybe she was not only new to the practice, but new to dentistry and didn't have the experience to know it was not fixable.
No, if it was like my dentist and endodontist, the dentist has basic x-rays, the endodontist has some sort of microscopic molecular x-ray that can see cracks that don’t show up on regular x-ray. Sounds like the split showed up on his endo’s fancy schmancy x-rays.
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While we're talking about teeth and dentistry, late last year I went in for my cleaning. They took the traditional bite wing x-rays and then the dentist, new to this practice, came in. She told me I had an infection starting in #2 and needed to go see an Endodontist to get a root canal. I go there, go through all kind of x-rays and the Endodontist comes in to tell me I don't need a root canal, here's a prescription for an antibiotic to stop the infection and your dentist need to pull the tooth. That was what I got for $400+. Says he'll send a report to the dentist office. The tooth has a crown and he says the tooth is split under the crown. I never heard from the dentist, the tooth has never bothered me. I think my cleaning comes up in May. Gonna thank them for costing me $400+.
Maybe she was not only new to the practice, but new to dentistry and didn't have the experience to know it was not fixable.
No, if it was like my dentist and endodontist, the dentist has basic x-rays, the endodontist has some sort of microscopic molecular x-ray that can see cracks that don’t show up on regular x-ray. Sounds like the split showed up on his endo’s fancy schmancy x-rays.
Another possibility, which Rush alluded to, would be that the endodontist has access to a cone beam, which the GP usually does not.
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Another possibility, which Rush alluded to, would be that the endodontist has access to a cone beam, which the GP usually does not.
I had to look that up and yes from the pictures that looks like what my endo had.