PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Noah W on November 15, 2016, 02:48:27 AM
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This says a lot about the last eight years.....And the people of the USoA.
Author Unknown:
It’s midnight in America. The day before fifty million Americans got up and stood in front of the great iron wheel that had been grinding them down. They stood there even though the media told them it was useless. They took their stand even while all the chattering classes laughed and taunted them.
They were fathers who couldn’t feed their families anymore. They were mothers who couldn’t afford health care. They were workers whose jobs had been sold off to foreign countries. They were sons who didn’t see a future for themselves. They were daughters afraid of being murdered by the “unaccompanied minors” flooding into their towns. They took a deep breath and they stood.
They held up their hands and the great iron wheel stopped. The Great Blue Wall crumbled. The impossible states fell one by one. Ohio. Wisconsin. Michigan. Pennsylvania. Iowa. The white working class that had been overlooked and trampled on for so long got to its feet. It rose up against its oppressors and the rest of the nation, from coast to coast, rose up with it.
They fought back against their jobs being shipped overseas while their towns filled with migrants that got everything while they got nothing. They fought back against a system in which they could go to jail for a trifle while the elites could violate the law and still stroll through a presidential election. They fought back against being told that they had to watch what they say. They fought back against being held in contempt because they wanted to work for a living and take care of their families. They fought and they won.
This wasn’t a vote. It was an uprising. Like the ordinary men chipping away at the Berlin Wall, they tore down an unnatural thing that had towered over them. And as they watched it fall, they marveled at how weak and fragile it had always been. And how much stronger they were than they had ever known.
Who were these people? They were leftovers and flyover country. They didn’t have bachelor degrees and had never set foot in a Starbucks. They were the white working class. They didn’t talk right or think right. They had the wrong ideas, the wrong clothes and the ridiculous idea that they still mattered.
They were wrong about everything. Illegal immigration? Everyone knew it was here to stay. Black Lives Matter? The new civil rights movement. Manufacturing? As dead as the dodo. Banning Muslims? What kind of bigot even thinks that way? Love wins. Marriage loses. The future belongs to the urban metrosexual and his dot com, not the guy who used to have a good job before it went to China or Mexico.
They couldn’t change anything. A thousand politicians and pundits had talked of getting them to adapt to the inevitable future. Instead they got in their pickup trucks and drove out to vote. And they changed everything.
Barack Hussein Obama boasted that he had changed America. A billion regulations, a million immigrants, a hundred thousand lies and it was no longer your America. It was his. He was JFK and FDR rolled into one. He told us that his version of history was right and inevitable.
And they voted and left him in the dust. They walked past him and they didn’t listen. He had come to campaign to where they still cling to their guns and their bibles. He came to plead for his legacy. And America said, “No.”
Fifty millions Americans repudiated him. They repudiated the Obamas and the Clintons. They ignored the celebrities. They paid no attention to the media. They voted because they believed in the impossible. And their dedication made the impossible happen.
Americans were told that walls couldn’t be built and factories couldn’t be opened. That treaties couldn’t be unsigned and wars couldn’t be won. It was impossible to ban Muslim terrorists from coming to America or to deport the illegal aliens turning towns and cities into gangland territories.
It was all impossible. And fifty million Americans did the impossible. They turned the world upside down.
It’s midnight in America. CNN is weeping. MSNBC is wailing. ABC calls it a tantrum. NBC damns it. It wasn’t supposed to happen. The same machine that crushed the American people for two straight terms, the mass of government, corporations and non-profits that ran the country, was set to win.
Instead the people stood in front of the machine. They blocked it with their bodies. They went to vote even though the polls told them it was useless. They mailed in their absentee ballots even while Hillary Clinton was planning her fireworks victory celebration. They looked at the empty factories and barren farms. They drove through the early cold. They waited in line. They came home to their children to tell them that they had done their best for their future. They bet on America. And they won. They won improbably. And they won amazingly.
They were tired of ObamaCare. They were tired of unemployment. They were tired of being lied to. They were tired of watching their sons come back in coffins to protect some Muslim country. They were tired of being called racists and homophobes. They were tired of seeing their America disappear. And they stood up and fought back. This was their last hope. Their last chance to be heard.
Watch the videos. See ten ways John Oliver destroyed Donald Trump. Here’s three ways Samantha Bee broke the internet by taunting Trump supporters. These three minutes of Stephen Colbert talking about how stupid Trump is owns the internet. Watch Madonna curse out Trump supporters. Watch Katy Perry. Watch Miley Cyrus. Watch Robert Downey Jr. Watch Beyonce campaign with Hillary. Watch. Click. Watch fifty million Americans take back their country.
The media had the election wrong all along. This wasn’t about personalities. It was about the impersonal. It was about fifty million people whose names no one except a server will ever know fighting back. It was about the homeless woman guarding Trump’s star. It was about the lost Democrats searching for someone to represent them in Ohio and Pennsylvania. It was about the union men who nodded along when the organizers told them how to vote, but who refused to sell out their futures.
No one will ever interview all those men and women. We will never see all their faces. But they are us and we are them. They came to the aid of a nation in peril. They did what real Americans have always done. They did the impossible.
America is a nation of impossibilities. We exist because our forefathers did not take no for an answer. Not from kings or tyrants. Not from the elites who told them that it couldn’t be done.
The day when we stop being able to pull of the impossible is the day that America will cease to exist. Today is not that day. Today fifty million Americans did the impossible. Midnight has passed. A new day has come. And everything is about to change.
Noah W
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We will see. When I have to pick up my rifle then we will say it is a revolution. Until then, not so much. I still see rich, powerful people in charge.
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Maybe I am jaded but this seems really overdone considering 2016 voter turnout was lower than previous recent elections, the winning candidate likely did not win the popular vote, and he had very high unfavorable numbers.
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Maybe I am jaded but this seems really overdone considering 2016 voter turnout was lower than previous recent elections, the winning candidate likely did not win the popular vote, and he had very high unfavorable numbers.
yep - hardly a mandate.
But it was definitely a change of pace....
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Looks like it's by Daniel Greenfield.
http://canadafreepress.com/article/american-uprising
Thanks, Noah. That piece should be used in journalism schools to illustrate the importance of looking at all sides of what is happening. I surely wish journalists right now would actually do their jobs and investigate for us who is behind and funding the rioting.
Voter turnout was lower all around, but the turnout against the status quo was strongest. A lot of flyover folks who voted for Trump were disaffected Democrats. But they weren't talking to pollsters either. They did talk to canvassers, though.
It's coming out now that Dem canvassers are saying that about 30% of the people they talked to and encouraged to vote Democrat (remember, these are Dems on Dem rolls) told them they were voting for Trump. Naturally this information was not widely disseminated because it cast HRC in a bad light.
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yep - hardly a mandate.
But it was definitely a change of pace....
Oh, I agree. I like to think folks were sick of slimy politicians. I like to think that because it's a main reason I could not support Clinton, so it fits with my viewpoint on the matter. And believe me when I tell you I'm getting extreme flack from my ultra-liberal family and friends.
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. And believe me when I tell you I'm getting extreme flack from my ultra-liberal family and friends.
I'd be spending a lot of holidays at Denny's....
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yep - hardly a mandate.
But it was definitely a change of pace....
Have you looked at all of the elections? Only four states in the country now have entirely blue governments (governor and government)
Kentucky's government got turned over to Republicans in this election.
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Have you looked at all of the elections? Only four states in the country now have entirely blue governments (governor and government)
Kentucky's government got turned over to Republicans in this election.
fair point. I was only considering the Presidential election.
So, if we ignore the anemic voting in the Presidential election, it would seem that there are very few democrat victories at the state and local levels. That could be argued to be a mandate at the state level. I still wouldn't consider it a mandate for President-elect Trump.
btw - in Taxachusetts, given the supermajority of D's in at the house and senate, the "republican" governer doesn't have much power. As a result, Taxachusetts is pretty close to being an entirely blue government at the state level.
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The fact that very few seem to recognize or want to acknowledge is that we are in the midst of a slow bloodless coup of sorts, and the primary folks who have yet to recognize it are the Democrats, the Republicans, and the Media. It is not a 'conservative' coup in truth, more of a right leaning populism but the Republicans and Conservatism have been and will continue to be the primary beneficients of it, IF they listen to the people.
The Democrat party is at it's weakest in terms of power at the Federal, State and Local year in almost a century, they have been eviscerated and have no bench to draw from, the power vaccuum there will likely force them ever further Left which is ever farther away from the center where most folks ultimately reside. It cannot be overstated, they have been absolutely decimated in terms of power base, all they have left, and it is a lot, is the media and pop culture but even that is proving to not be enough anymore.
There is still a real risk that the current movement is co-opted by the Republican Elite/Establishment but I think Trump is sensitive enough to the voice of the people that the risk is minimal (still needs constant focus and attention from the rank and file though).
Trump won more women and minorities than Romney, he did exactly what all the consultants have been saying the Republicans needed to do for decades, but they (the elites and consultant class) are not in control (which is good IMO).
Welcome to the Revolution.
'Gimp
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This says a lot about the last eight years.....And the people of the USoA.
TL;DR.
Might as well have started with "It was a dark and stormy nation...."
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And believe me when I tell you I'm getting extreme flack from my ultra-liberal family and friends.
Wait, wait...you mean that people on the uber left are not practicing tolerance and respect? Go figure...
What I see is that it's a bit like dying and they will have to get through their stages of grief. We're pretty firmly entrenched in denial right now, I don't think we've really seen anger. I've actually heard people propose that Bernie Sanders could still be maneuvered into place. Please don't ask me to explain how because I couldn't follow it.
I think in the end, this will be good for America. What I'm hearing north of the border (Canada) is that they're cautiously optimistic. Alberta is pretty excited about lowering the cost to pump Canadian oil through Keystone and the feeling is that Canada might give a little on NAFTA, but it's really about Mexico because they are the ones who benefit the most. I like easy trade with equal partners and I think trade with Canada comes as close as possible to that.
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Wait, wait...you mean that people on the uber left are not practicing tolerance and respect? Go figure...
What I see is that it's a bit like dying and they will have to get through their stages of grief. We're pretty firmly entrenched in denial right now, I don't think we've really seen anger. I've actually heard people propose that Bernie Sanders could still be maneuvered into place. Please don't ask me to explain how because I couldn't follow it.
I think in the end, this will be good for America. What I'm hearing north of the border (Canada) is that they're cautiously optimistic. Alberta is pretty excited about lowering the cost to pump Canadian oil through Keystone and the feeling is that Canada might give a little on NAFTA, but it's really about Mexico because they are the ones who benefit the most. I like easy trade with equal partners and I think trade with Canada comes as close as possible to that.
Not unlike Republicans 8 and 4 years ago, right now ultra-liberals believe that the end is nigh. They believe that Trump will ruin our stature in the world. They believe that unrecoverable damage will be done on social issues. They believe that this man is completely unfit for the presidency. All of that should sound familiar, because it is just the polar opposite of what the right said about Obama. And yet here we are, all still alive, with the right positioned to make great strides if they play their cards right.
I tend to take a more reasoned approach. I no more believe that Trump is the end of the US than I believed the folks here that said Clinton would be. I certainly do believe that Liberal policies and philosophies will spend 4 or 8 years getting little traction at the federal level. And existing Liberal initiatives will likely be rolled back to some extent. But we will all be alright.
Right now I'm being accused of false equivalences when I remark to my leftist folks that I refuse to be the Liberal version of the right-wingers who wailed and gnashed teeth over Obama (and Clinton) and were just so certain that we were done for. RIP USofA. Our Democracy is over. Woe is us.
Bullshit. Trump won fair and square. Democrats misjudged a number of things. Suck it up and rebuild, and make a go of it in 2 years at the mid-terms, and in 4 years at Trump's re-election bid.
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Welcome to the Revolution.
Not a revolution. Yet. :)
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Not unlike Republicans 8 and 4 years ago, right now ultra-liberals believe that the end is nigh. They believe that Trump will ruin our stature in the world. They believe that unrecoverable damage will be done on social issues. They believe that this man is completely unfit for the presidency. All of that should sound familiar, because it is just the polar opposite of what the right said about Obama. And yet here we are, all still alive, with the right positioned to make great strides if they play their cards right.
I tend to take a more reasoned approach. I no more believe that Trump is the end of the US than I believed the folks here that said Clinton would be. I certainly do believe that Liberal policies and philosophies will spend 4 or 8 years getting little traction at the federal level. And existing Liberal initiatives will likely be rolled back to some extent. But we will all be alright.
Right now I'm being accused of false equivalences when I remark to my leftist folks that I refuse to be the Liberal version of the right-wingers who wailed and gnashed teeth over Obama (and Clinton) and were just so certain that we were done for. RIP USofA. Our Democracy is over. Woe is us.
Bullshit. Trump won fair and square. Democrats misjudged a number of things. Suck it up and rebuild, and make a go of it in 2 years at the mid-terms, and in 4 years at Trump's re-election bid.
But it is getting tiresome and unproductive, this back and forthing, don't you think? Defeat, retrench, chip away at everything the other party does, demonize them, lie about them to defeat them, regain power, rinse and repeat.
It's destructive and paralyzing. Net gains are small.
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But it is getting tiresome and unproductive, this back and forthing, don't you think? Defeat, retrench, chip away at everything the other party does, demonize them, lie about them to defeat them, regain power, rinse and repeat.
It's destructive and paralyzing. Net gains are small.
Yep, we need leaders not demonizers.
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What do you see that indicates it will stop anytime soon? Obama will run to a microphone anytime his legacy is attacked and the lapdog MSM will be right there to cover it. On January 22nd we'll start getting stories about the homeless problem in America and how cruel the Republicans are for not solving it yet. Can probably name a few more stories that we'll begin to hear again.
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But it is getting tiresome and unproductive, this back and forthing, don't you think? Defeat, retrench, chip away at everything the other party does, demonize them, lie about them to defeat them, regain power, rinse and repeat.
It's destructive and paralyzing. Net gains are small.
Yes, I'm tired of the vicious campaigning. But I would say that, in large part, the US is set up structurally for this perpetual back-and-forth -- these incremental changes. And, perhaps, a chipping away of them during the subsequent four years. And if we were to take a close look at history, we might find that modern campaigns are not much more vicious than some in our history, but that technology and the 24 hour news cycle disseminates the viciousness to a wide audience (edit: and exacerbates it).