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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on December 21, 2019, 01:53:25 AM

Title: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Lucifer on December 21, 2019, 01:53:25 AM
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/31/cnn-is-not-a-news-network/?amp


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As a child, I was aware of CNN in part because its introductory bumper featured the sinister voice of Darth Vader, and in part because it was both the prototype and the stereotype of the 24-hour news channel. CNN showed up in movies, either as itself or in parodies that imitated its role. It was on in the airports and the hospitals and the hotel lobbies, and in the waiting room at the dentist’s office. When something bad or exciting was happening, you would tell your friends, “Turn on CNN.”

CNN was careful and self-consciously nonpartisan — or, at least, it was keen for viewers to believe that it was. Its slogans were “This is CNN” — well, yes — and “The most trusted name in news,” and it cultivated its position within the firmament in much the same way as does Wikipedia today. It could be sensationalist and intrusive at times, but it was sensationalist and intrusive in the way that the paparazzo is rather than in the way that protesters who bang drums in your face and insist that you give up gasoline are. In short, it was what it said it was: a news network.

It is no longer that. These days, CNN is a peculiar and unlovely hybrid of progressive propaganda outlet, oleaginous media apologist, sexless cultural scold, and frenzied Donald Trump stalkerblog. When news breaks, it is no longer useful or appropriate to tell someone, “Turn on CNN,” because if he did, he would be as likely to be presented with a wall of advocacy and obsession as with the headlines of the hour. Today, CNN does not broadcast the news; it broadcasts what it wants you to think the news is. At long last, it has become Fox.
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Number7 on December 21, 2019, 05:36:51 AM
https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/31/cnn-is-not-a-news-network/?amp

If this article wasn’t so pathetic it would make great satire.

What utter bullshit, wrapped, in a patina of pseudo facts, obliterated by toxic opinions.
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Lucifer on December 21, 2019, 07:42:56 AM
If this article wasn’t so pathetic it would make great satire.

What utter bullshit, wrapped, in a patina of pseudo facts, obliterated by toxic opinions.

 I thought it was spot on and depicted CNN for what it actually has become.   ???

 Also, I like how they described it as a Trump "stalkerblog".  Appropriate.
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Rush on December 21, 2019, 07:48:46 AM
If this article wasn’t so pathetic it would make great satire.

What utter bullshit, wrapped, in a patina of pseudo facts, obliterated by toxic opinions.

Like Lucifer said, I thought it was spot on, except for the fact that it seemed to throw Fox in to be as bad as cnn or msnbc. Or did you mean you agreed with it that cnn is bullshit, wrapped in patina of pseudo facts, etc.?
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on December 21, 2019, 07:54:14 AM
CNN BREAKING NEWS: Trump sucks
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Number7 on December 21, 2019, 09:04:41 AM
Like Lucifer said, I thought it was spot on, except for the fact that it seemed to throw Fox in to be as bad as cnn or msnbc. Or did you mean you agreed with it that cnn is bullshit, wrapped in patina of pseudo facts, etc.?

The article is written as if all Trump supporters are stupid, BUT, CNN really is stupider.
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Rush on December 21, 2019, 09:47:22 AM
The article is written as if all Trump supporters are stupid, BUT, CNN really is stupider.

I missed that part... maybe I'm blind?
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Anthony on December 21, 2019, 09:56:07 AM
Like Lucifer said, I thought it was spot on, except for the fact that it seemed to throw Fox in to be as bad as cnn or msnbc. Or did you mean you agreed with it that cnn is bullshit, wrapped in patina of pseudo facts, etc.?

I agree, although the tone was a bit condescending.  Even though I haven't had Fox News for a long time, I can still stream selected segments, mostly Tucker, and Greg Gutfeld, so I don't know what the rest is like.  I wouldn't compare it to CNN at all.  Even though it has moved LEFT in some of its programming.  Hosts like Chris Wallace has always been left, but I have even seen Bret Baire, Brit Hume, and Neil Cavuto go off the reservation with Trump hate. 

You all know MY list of Deplorable Media Outlets, so I will spare you.  :)
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Lucifer on December 21, 2019, 10:19:00 AM
I agree, although the tone was a bit condescending.  Even though I haven't had Fox News for a long time, I can still stream selected segments, mostly Tucker, and Greg Gutfeld, so I don't know what the rest is like.  I wouldn't compare it to CNN at all.  Even though it has moved LEFT in some of its programming.  Hosts like Chris Wallace has always been left, but I have even seen Bret Baire, Brit Hume, and Neil Cavuto go off the reservation with Trump hate. 

You all know MY list of Deplorable Media Outlets, so I will spare you.  :)

Fox has indeed gone left, and honestly is not too far behind CNN.  The primary difference is Fox is still being a news agency, and is still reporting actual news, whereas CNN is full blown propaganda for the left.  CNN set the standard for “fake news” and is the torch bearer.  Zucker’s overwhelming hatred of Trump has destroyed them.

 Daytime Fox is unwatchable.  I could go down the list of their leftist host and reporters, but that list has gotten long.   Just remember that Fox is now run by the Murdoch brothers who are far leftist, and that RINO Paul Ryan sits on the board. 

Fox at night with Carlson and Ingraham are good.  Sean Hannity has become unwatchable, not for leftist views, but because it’s the same thing, every night, over and over. He has ruined his platform.   
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Anthony on December 21, 2019, 10:26:04 AM
^^^^^^That's what I have heard, and noticed when I see Fox clips on line.  Yes, the Murdoch sons are Globalist Progressives, and I believe that is the SOLE reason it has gone LEFT.  Not ratings, as they were the rating leader when they were more Fair and Balanced.  Yes, they still have a few good shows.  The Five (I like Gutfeld), Tucker, Ingraham, Judge Jeanine, and a few others.  Fox and Friends still seems to be ok from what I can tell, but the rest sucks.  Again, I only go by snippets I see on line, and on the Fox News site. 
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: nddons on December 21, 2019, 11:18:21 AM
Fox has indeed gone left, and honestly is not too far behind CNN.  The primary difference is Fox is still being a news agency, and is still reporting actual news, whereas CNN is full blown propaganda for the left.  CNN set the standard for “fake news” and is the torch bearer.  Zucker’s overwhelming hatred of Trump has destroyed them.

 Daytime Fox is unwatchable.  I could go down the list of their leftist host and reporters, but that list has gotten long.   Just remember that Fox is now run by the Murdoch brothers who are far leftist, and that RINO Paul Ryan sits on the board. 

Fox at night with Carlson and Ingraham are good.  Sean Hannity has become unwatchable, not for leftist views, but because it’s the same thing, every night, over and over. He has ruined his platform.   
Agree on all points. Hannity is unwatchable.

I do enjoy that they often run Trump rallies live.
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Rush on December 21, 2019, 01:56:50 PM
Agree on all points. Hannity is unwatchable.

I do enjoy that they often run Trump rallies live.

Hannity repeats the same story over and over but I don’t mind because I think that’s one thing that helped get it out, he was relentless giving airtime to Sara Carter and others these past couple years when no mainstream “news” outlet would.

But what I can’t stand is his interrupting his guests. He has a way of cutting someone off right when they are about to make the main point of some thought they had just built you up for. He will interrupt with some tangent question and then they never get back to finishing their thought and I’m left hanging off a cliff. Drives me nuts.

Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Lucifer on December 21, 2019, 02:04:34 PM
Hannity repeats the same story over and over but I don’t mind because I think that’s one thing that helped get it out, he was relentless giving airtime to Sara Carter and others these past couple years when no mainstream “news” outlet would.

But what I can’t stand is his interrupting his guests. He has a way of cutting someone off right when they are about to make the main point of some thought they had just built you up for. He will interrupt with some tangent question and then they never get back to finishing their thought and I’m left hanging off a cliff. Drives me nuts.

He opens every program with “Breaking News!” and then repeats a story that’s been out for 24 hours or more. 

 He does give airtime to guest who the MSM ignore, but he doesn’t give them time to speak.
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: nddons on December 21, 2019, 04:24:05 PM
Hannity repeats the same story over and over but I don’t mind because I think that’s one thing that helped get it out, he was relentless giving airtime to Sara Carter and others these past couple years when no mainstream “news” outlet would.

But what I can’t stand is his interrupting his guests. He has a way of cutting someone off right when they are about to make the main point of some thought they had just built you up for. He will interrupt with some tangent question and then they never get back to finishing their thought and I’m left hanging off a cliff. Drives me nuts.
I agree about cutting people off. He does that on radio too, and never lets people complete anything.

Tucker on the other hand is masterful. While he won’t let anyone bloviate BS endlessly, he allows adversarial guests enough time to hang themselves.

The other thing about Hannity is his irrational exuberance over the belief that
People will be going to jail or whatever. His predictions are worse than a Chicago weatherman.
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 21, 2019, 04:33:24 PM
If none of these folks are indicted, we will be totally screwed as a country and it will go downhill from there.
Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: Jim Logajan on December 22, 2019, 12:06:16 AM
Remy’s satire on CNN in 2016:

Title: Re: CNN Is Not a News Network
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on December 22, 2019, 06:19:39 AM
The date of that video is interesting and telling.