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Title: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Number7 on December 14, 2023, 09:50:10 AM
Try as I might, it is impossible to find even a smidge of compassion for the crooks at pfizer and their stockholders.
I guess the scam vaccine hysteria just isn't cutting it anymore. Maybe it's time for murder hornets, or another global warming scam.

Pfizer's shares are plunging downwards to their worst performance in over a decade after the pharmaceutical giant put out a stark warning about its projected revenue as hysteria over the Covid-19 outbreak continues to wane.

Recent financial results and projections alike have not fared well for Pfizer; shares dropped 8 percent on Thursday morning, and the company has lost $140 billion in market cap this year alone.


https://thepostmillennial.com/pfizer-stock-plummets-as-people-turn-away-from-covid-boosters
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 14, 2023, 11:19:02 AM
From Pfizer concerning their RSV vaccine
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Vaccination with ABRYSVO may not protect all people

https://www.abrysvo.com/
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Rush on December 14, 2023, 11:49:25 AM
Maybe people are starting to question the idea of marching into the pharmacy for a shot every other day.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Number7 on December 14, 2023, 01:16:49 PM
Maybe people are starting to question the idea of marching into the pharmacy for a shot every other day.

ESPECIALLY a shot that  might kill more people than it helps.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: nddons on December 14, 2023, 03:39:16 PM
I got a flu shot every year of my adult life until last year. I didn’t last year, and won’t this year. My trust of Pharma has hit rock bottom.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Anthony on December 26, 2023, 04:34:01 AM
Let them ROT.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Rush on December 26, 2023, 05:30:22 AM
I got a flu shot every year of my adult life until last year. I didn’t last year, and won’t this year. My trust of Pharma has hit rock bottom.

They’re giving KIDS flu shots every year, starting at 6 months!  To us older folks, that is INSANE.  Getting normal colds and flu is how we build our immune system. But getting tons of vaccines is being normalized for the younger generations and it is warping their minds as well as their immune systems.  They’re being taught to depend on Big Pharma for day to day survival. 

Big Pharma does good things like develop the drugs that cured my kid’s cancer.  But the greed has gotten out of hand.  They have become a tool to be used by government to create dependency.  It’s the CDC recommending flu shots for kids.  The CDC needs to be disbanded.  Let the pharmaceutical companies try to market flu shots to us in a true free market, without frightening parents away from allowing kids to develop a naturally strong immune system.

No thank you.  I never got flu shots except the one time my kid wouldn’t let me be around her newborn unless I did. Never got another one and never will. I got a bad flu in 2018 and survived, and I have no regrets not getting a flu shot that season.  I prefer my natural immunity.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 26, 2023, 06:57:47 AM
And remember, kids rarely got covid and still rarely get covid, yet the CDC is somberly intoning that the jab is needed for six-month-olds.

My Mom, 95, has never had a flu shot. She and my Dad always were leery of them. My Dad did get a pneumonia shot, then got lymphoma. I’ve never had a flu shot because when I was a teen, a friend got one and immediately had serious brain issues. It impressed me. Another friend (uber liberal) got the pneumonia shot (before covid) and laughingly described to us the weeks and weeks of vision and balance problems he had right after it. Yet he lined right up for all the covid shots and boosters. I know … anecdotal. But a plurality of anecdotes is data.

Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 26, 2023, 07:06:52 AM
Let them ROT.
They are too big (read: corrupted) to fail. If the public does a Bud Light or a Disney on them, the government (corrupt) will step up so the (corrupt) people grifting on the cradle-to-grave money train will keep their profits rolling in. Note that they’re coming up with new diseases (the website says merely that “RSV may make your child sick,”) and thus new vaccines and treatments. Ideally, these companies and agencies would be toiling away to eliminate disease instead of creating more. I can’t think of any industry that should be more dedicated to putting itself out of business than pharma and medicine. But no.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 26, 2023, 07:31:11 AM
Probably doesn't have anything to do with all the calls for depopulating the planet.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Bamaflyer on December 26, 2023, 09:07:05 AM
To be fair or an exception, I was required to get a flu shot every year in the military, for 20 years, and since I retired from the military every year since I’ve gotten one. 75 now and no problems. But, no Covid shots for me. Did the first two and no more.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Rush on December 26, 2023, 09:18:44 AM
To be fair or an exception, I was required to get a flu shot every year in the military, for 20 years, and since I retired from the military every year since I’ve gotten one. 75 now and no problems. But, no Covid shots for me. Did the first two and no more.

Spanish flu excepting, flu is deadly to newborns, at least the ones not breastfed, and elderly so if you’re 75 and over, the benefits outweigh the risks and I don’t blame you for getting flu shots. Unlike the Covid shot they aren’t dangerous other than weakening your immune system when you’re young. But when you’re old your immune system might could use a boost against a specific disease. But the covid shot has not been proven safe as far as I’m concerned. Too many stories of heart problems and clot problems.  Still, if the Covid death rate is actually as high as 20%, it might be better to get the Covid shot IF you are elderly and in poor health and live communally like in a nursing home.  It’s all about assessing risk vs potential benefit.

Thomas Sowell says:  There are no solutions, only trade offs.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 26, 2023, 12:28:44 PM
Spanish flu excepting, flu is deadly to newborns, at least the ones not breastfed, and elderly so if you’re 75 and over, the benefits outweigh the risks and I don’t blame you for getting flu shots. Unlike the Covid shot they aren’t dangerous other than weakening your immune system when you’re young. But when you’re old your immune system might could use a boost against a specific disease. But the covid shot has not been proven safe as far as I’m concerned. Too many stories of heart problems and clot problems.  Still, if the Covid death rate is actually as high as 20%, it might be better to get the Covid shot IF you are elderly and in poor health and live communally like in a nursing home.  It’s all about assessing risk vs potential benefit.

Thomas Sowell says:  There are no solutions, only trade offs.
How do you figure 20%? We now know it was around 0.15, and even that probably was inflated by idiocy and greed and need to adhere to a narrative. The highest I’ve seen was early on, at 3.4, by some “expert” in the UK who was known to be an exaggerator.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Rush on December 26, 2023, 01:57:17 PM
How do you figure 20%? We now know it was around 0.15, and even that probably was inflated by idiocy and greed and need to adhere to a narrative. The highest I’ve seen was early on, at 3.4, by some “expert” in the UK who was known to be an exaggerator.

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Still, if the Covid death rate is actually as high as 20%, it might be better to get the Covid shot IF you are elderly and in poor health and live communally like in a nursing home.

That was badly written.  I meant in nursing homes among people age 80 and above, the death rate was reported to be 20% with the first variant of the virus.  Of course that number may have been inflated.  But the point is, Covid danger is highly correlated with age. Practically nonexistent in children rising to pretty deadly in the very old, so if anybody is going to get the vaccine it should be the very old.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 26, 2023, 02:41:39 PM
That was badly written.  I meant in nursing homes among people age 80 and above, the death rate was reported to be 20% with the first variant of the virus.  Of course that number may have been inflated.  But the point is, Covid danger is highly correlated with age. Practically nonexistent in children rising to pretty deadly in the very old, so if anybody is going to get the vaccine it should be the very old.
Possibly, but repeated jabs can take down the elderly as well. My Mom is in assisted living and has noticed that the vaccinated always are the most frequently sick, and to her it doesn’t seem that most of them were super frail to start with. She eats meals regularly with five other ladies and the stories of their repeated bouts of vaccinated covid and other infectious stuff would curl your hair. They’re regularly hauled off in ambulances and return eager to get the next jab on offer. So my Mom is super exposed, according to the proximity experts. Yet she adamantly does not want any jabs. I’m good with that.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 26, 2023, 05:00:07 PM
That was badly written.  I meant in nursing homes among people age 80 and above, the death rate was reported to be 20% with the first variant of the virus.  Of course that number may have been inflated.  But the point is, Covid danger is highly correlated with age. Practically nonexistent in children rising to pretty deadly in the very old, so if anybody is going to get the vaccine it should be the very old.
Does that include the number that got it because sick folks were forced back into the nursing home?   ;)
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Rush on December 26, 2023, 08:06:50 PM
Possibly, but repeated jabs can take down the elderly as well. My Mom is in assisted living and has noticed that the vaccinated always are the most frequently sick, and to her it doesn’t seem that most of them were super frail to start with. She eats meals regularly with five other ladies and the stories of their repeated bouts of vaccinated covid and other infectious stuff would curl your hair. They’re regularly hauled off in ambulances and return eager to get the next jab on offer. So my Mom is super exposed, according to the proximity experts. Yet she adamantly does not want any jabs. I’m good with that.

I’m glad they give her the choice!  Nobody should be forced to get them.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on December 27, 2023, 08:25:13 AM
I’m glad they give her the choice!  Nobody should be forced to get them.
That would have been a dealbreaker, and was the first question we asked.
Title: Re: Look For democrats To Demand Bailout For Pfizer
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on December 27, 2023, 08:29:09 AM
In our Tuesday Bible study we recently were told of a young Asian that needed to have his interview for citizenship. He was denied that interview until he got a COVID booster.