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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Little Joe on May 13, 2016, 01:59:13 PM

Title: Poor Hillary
Post by: Little Joe on May 13, 2016, 01:59:13 PM
I wonder if she knew about this?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

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Clinton’s presence aboard Jeffrey Epstein’s Boeing 727 on 11 occasions has been reported, but flight logs show the number is more than double that,  . . . The tricked-out jet earned its Nabakov-inspired nickname because it was reportedly outfitted with a bed where passengers had group sex with young girls.

At least it wasn't young boys!
Title: Poor Hillary
Post by: JeffDG on May 13, 2016, 03:43:46 PM
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And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

Trump quite aware he liked em on the young side, but a terrific guy.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: nddons on May 13, 2016, 04:30:37 PM
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/n_7912/

Trump quite aware he liked em on the young side, but a terrific guy.
Oh snap.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: LevelWing on May 13, 2016, 06:35:51 PM
Let's see how this plays out, if it does at all. This plays right into Trump's narrative that Clinton has a bad record with women.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: JeffDG on May 13, 2016, 06:47:01 PM
Let's see how this plays out, if it does at all. This plays right into Trump's narrative that Clinton has a bad record with women.
And when he brings it up, the question will be "OK, Mr. Trump, you seem to be a fan of Mr. Epstein, care to disclose how many times you visited his island retreat?"
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: LevelWing on May 13, 2016, 06:51:02 PM
And when he brings it up, the question will be "OK, Mr. Trump, you seem to be a fan of Mr. Epstein, care to disclose how many times you visited his island retreat?"
In Trump's defense, he's pretty good at diverting the attention away from him and back onto someone else.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: JeffDG on May 13, 2016, 06:54:20 PM
In Trump's defense, he's pretty good at diverting the attention away from him and back onto someone else.
To be fair, Pres. Clinton's association with Mr. Epstein has been known for some time, and Trump has completely ignored a huge vulnerability.


I think he's standing in the same puddle of gasoline, and knows that if he drops that match, he's going to burn too.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: LevelWing on May 13, 2016, 06:58:26 PM
To be fair, Pres. Clinton's association with Mr. Epstein has been known for some time, and Trump has completely ignored a huge vulnerability.


I think he's standing in the same puddle of gasoline, and knows that if he drops that match, he's going to burn too.
Fair point.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on May 14, 2016, 04:08:01 AM
the doormat (and the buttkisser-wannabes) will just respond with "old news"

Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: Little Joe on May 14, 2016, 04:48:51 AM
And when he brings it up, the question will be "OK, Mr. Trump, you seem to be a fan of Mr. Epstein, care to disclose how many times you visited his island retreat?"
Do you have any evidence of that?  Or is that just more of your Trumpphobia inspired fantasies.

Besides, what's wrong with beautiful young women? (And I don't mean young girls, as Epstein and Clinton enjoyed).
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: JeffDG on May 14, 2016, 06:52:40 AM
Do you have any evidence of that?  Or is that just more of your Trumpphobia inspired fantasies.
Sworn depositions that Trump's been on the Epstein jet?  Been to Epstein's house?  Good enough for you?
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Alessi testified that Trump would come over to Epstein’s home for dinner — though he added that Trump “never sat at the table” but instead ate “with me in the kitchen.” In another deposition, Epstein’s brother Mark testified he once flew on Jeffrey Epstein’s plane with both him and Trump, who were “friends.” Asked why Trump was on board, Mark Epstein replied, “You’ll have to ask Donald. I think he wanted a ride back to New York.”


That plus the fact that Trump went into his typical anti-free press mode when questioned about it:
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In response to a message left seeking the Trump campaign’s comment on this article, on Thursday Trump’s general counsel Alan Garten emailed threatening legal action against BuzzFeed News. “Mr. Trump’s only connection with Mr. Epstein was that Mr. Epstein was one of thousands of people who has visited Mar-a-Lago. That’s it. Mr. Trump has NEVER been accused of having any involvement or even having any knowledge of any of Mr. Epstein’s conduct by anyone,” Garten wrote.


So, Trump's counsel lied in that "Mr. Trump has never been accused of...having any knowledge of any of Mr. Epstein's conduct by anyone", well, except for himself, because he himself commented on Epstein liking girls on the young side.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: Little Joe on May 14, 2016, 09:12:31 AM
So, Trump's counsel lied in that "Mr. Trump has never been accused of...having any knowledge of any of Mr. Epstein's conduct by anyone", well, except for himself, because he himself commented on Epstein liking girls on the young side.
Well, your previous post said he mentioned "beautiful women" on the young side.  That is just a little different than "girls" on the young side.  It is true that Epstein did show a preference for girls, but from the statement, I am not going to assume Trump likes or uses young girls.  That is a pretty "National Enquirer" type of charge.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: JeffDG on May 14, 2016, 09:17:02 AM
Well, your previous post said he mentioned "beautiful women" on the young side.  That is just a little different than "girls" on the young side.  It is true that Epstein did show a preference for girls, but from the statement, I am not going to assume Trump likes or uses young girls.  That is a pretty "National Enquirer" type of charge.
If it's a National Enquirer type of charge, the Trumpkins should believe it uncritically (to which I cite the Ted Cruz mistress story that they all spouted uncritically, and the Rafael Cruz JFK conspiracy theory that Trump was himself talking up)

All that said, I never said Trump was into girls, although, again, after he accused Carson of being a pedophile that would not be an unfair charge.  I said he thought a pedophile was a "terrific guy" with an "active social life". 

Also tough to go after Clinton for being on the plane when Trump was too.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: Number7 on May 15, 2016, 02:28:45 PM
I caught a comment on the news late last night that the Donald 'might' choose to go easy on Hilary Clinton, instead of scorched Earth. Just as I suspected. He's int he tank, or some bank has chosen the next president and it could get messy and expensive if the Donald doesn't go along with their decision.
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: Lucifer on May 15, 2016, 03:51:45 PM
I caught a comment on the news late last night that the Donald 'might' choose to go easy on Hilary Clinton, instead of scorched Earth. Just as I suspected. He's int he tank, or some bank has chosen the next president and it could get messy and expensive if the Donald doesn't go along with their decision.

Where you wearing your tin foil hat while watching that?
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: pilot_dude on May 16, 2016, 06:38:31 AM
I caught a comment on the news late last night that the Donald 'might' choose to go easy on Hilary Clinton, instead of scorched Earth. Just as I suspected. He's int he tank, or some bank has chosen the next president and it could get messy and expensive if the Donald doesn't go along with their decision.
Henning?  :o
Title: Re: Poor Hillary
Post by: JeffDG on May 19, 2016, 12:46:30 PM
I wonder if this has anything to do with why Trump doesn't hit Clinton on the Epstein connection:


https://www.scribd.com/doc/310835987/Donald-Trump-Lawsuit