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Spin Zone / Why have Trump and his GOP cronies...
« on: November 11, 2020, 09:05:01 AM »
Accepted all the Congressional election results? Same ballots counted by the same people.

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Spin Zone / Re: Stop the Steal
« on: November 10, 2020, 01:09:41 PM »
 

Now, we have evidence of fraud, and the republicans want to investigate, yet you and your fellow communist want it stopped.   

What is your evidence of fraud?  Some cockeyed statistical analysis?  Or does Trump saying something automatically make it true?

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Spin Zone / Re: The Statistical Probability Dwarfs Imagination
« on: November 10, 2020, 01:08:28 PM »
We are not in transition.  Biden is NOT the president elect.  That doesn't happen until the Electoral College has its say.  Doesn't matter what the MSM says or wants to happen.  I'm sure that once we're all assured that the election is fair and all the legal votes are counted then Trump will assume the second term of his presidency.
Traditionally someone concedes and the transition gets going well before then, since it is a fairly complicated business.  Obama didn't wait until the Electoral college met to meet Trump at the White House and offer assistance in the transition. George W did the same when Obama won. 

You raise one very good point. Votes are still being counted.  But the writing is most definitely on the wall.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Statistical Probability Dwarfs Imagination
« on: November 10, 2020, 01:05:50 PM »
So, your answer is no, statistically unlikely voting patterns should not be investigated (if they benefit Democrats).

The way that guy calculated his statistics was so devoid of basis as to be nearly farcical.  Hey look, if there's evidence of vote fraud by all means.  Find and punish the perpetrators and set the record right.  I don't want my guy to win in a dishonest contest.  But frankly, all I'm seeing is "our guy lost, so it must be fraud especially since he says so".

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Spin Zone / Re: What will a Biden Administration Bring?
« on: November 10, 2020, 10:33:01 AM »
I don't believe you at all.  In addition, you are either uniformed or misinformed or both.  Trump has done tremendous things in:

Tax policy
Yeah, the tax cut for rich people.  Big pass on that. 

Energy policy
yeah, trying to bring back coal.  Good luck with that.

Foreign Trade and better Trade deals for the U.S.
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Border Security
Yeah, separating kids from their families. Been talking about that awhile.  Keeping legal asylum seekers out despite laws to the contrary.  Whatever.
Drawing down troops in needless foreign wars
Yeah, without telling the generals in charge of said wars.  Also leaving our allies out to dry and get their asses blasted by the Turks.  lets not forget about that.  I've never seen a Republican POTUS so repudiated by the military. They usually save that for the Democrats.
Less onerous regulation on small business
Given that most regulations for small businesses are at the local and state level, I'd like to see a link to that.  Unless you're referring to his massive rollback of environmental protections.
Standing up to Nato "allies" so they pay their fair share
Standing up to China which is the evil empire or job stealing from coutnries
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In the most ham-fisted undiplomatic way possible.  He's a laughingstock all over the world, in case you haven't figured it out.  And if China is such an evil empire why do we buy their shit?

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Spin Zone / Re: The Statistical Probability Dwarfs Imagination
« on: November 10, 2020, 08:58:29 AM »
Here, let me explain this to you.

 Yes, the Secretary of State oversees the election process put forth in the state's law.  Each county has an election supervisor, who may be an R, a D or an independent.   The county election supervisor is responsible to follow orders from the SoS and the applicable laws.

 Now, let's say in the counties with adult supervision (R) we are seeing little voting issues, but in the major urban counties that are blue (D) we are seeing all sorts of regularities coming in.

 Now it is up to the SoS and the GA Legislature to intervene, which oddly enough, is happening.   Oh, and this is what has the (D)'s upset in GA.  Notice the (R) counties are not pitching hissy fits and welcome an audit and recount.   Tells you all you need to know.

 So, why exactly are you so opposed to election audits and recounts?   Don't you want the elections to be shown as honest with integrity?

 The votes don't have to be certified until Dec 14th, so why the rush?

Where have I said that I was against recounts?  As far as I know, many of these states are going to do recounts because the election was close.  What I said was that most of the Mango Mussilini's objections are baseless, there is no evidence at all of massive fraud.  That's why all his lawsuits have been thrown out.

I agree with the objections that the counts aren't done, in many states they aren't.  The problem is the massive numbers of absentee and other mail in ballots.  There are no provisions to count them quickly, so it takes time.  What is clear is that in the states that have been called, there aren't sufficient ballots outstanding to change the result.

Of course, if the same thing happens in the recount, e.g. absentee ballots have to be scrutinized one by one for signatures, the recounts are going be similarly glacial.

The one thing of which I am absolutely sure, no matter what happens, when Biden is finally announced the winner by whatever body for whom you guys are waiting, Trump will claim fraud and file lawsuits.  He will not concede his loss under any circumstances. He will continue to rail agains the theft of his election until his dying day. No doubt you all will do likewise.

I'm just hoping that Trump is an aberration, and not the new normal.  All this divisiveness is really bad for America.

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Spin Zone / Re: Masks don’t work?
« on: November 09, 2020, 01:23:25 PM »
How can you argue with the premier epidemiologist in the nation?  Don't you trust the experts?

I know a crapload more about basic molecular biology that Dr. Fauci.  He is an MD after all.  He knows way more than me about viruses and how to treat them.

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Spin Zone / Re: Masks don’t work?
« on: November 09, 2020, 12:01:21 PM »
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/newly-surfaced-video-july-fauci-tests-dead-virus

I have to disagree with Dr. Fauci on this.  RNAs aren't terribly stable intracellularly.  I doubt you'd pick up an inactive infection unless it was just ending.

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Spin Zone / Re: The Statistical Proability Dwarfs Imagination
« on: November 08, 2020, 07:48:20 PM »
Didn't read the article, did you Michael?
You didn’t read my post. A giant conspiracy involving people of both parties and multiple states. All kept secret by folks who according to you are moronic parasites on the body politic. What really bothers me is Trump and his toadies (that’s you guys) are undermining American faith in Democracy itself just so your guy wins. Your playing right into Putin’s handbook. Enjoy your evening comrade.

And by the way Eppy, can you explain the fraud in your state? Last I checked Georgia wa run by Republicans. So how did the Biden camp pull that off? Jimmy the count with a Republican Secretary of State?

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Spin Zone / Re: The Statistical Proability Dwarfs Imagination
« on: November 08, 2020, 06:39:13 PM »
Trump wins, election is fine (news flash: Trump LOST the popular vote to Hillary Clinton). Trump looses, has to be fraud. The only answer possible. It couldn’t possibly be that his politics of division didn’t piss off the half of the voting population that isn’t White, wealthy and/or racist. It couldn’t possibly be that he violently mishandled the pandemic (with 5% of the world population we have 20% of the cases). No, it has to be fraud.  No other explanation possible. I’ve seen this nonsense before. And the funniest thing is you all believe that these government functionaries, who according to most of the folks on this site can’t manage to chew gum and walk at the same time, are now able to contain a giant conspiracy that spans states and election apparatus and involves officials of both parties.

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Spin Zone / Re: You guys
« on: November 08, 2020, 01:44:34 PM »
What really bothers me about this whole discussion is not one person has said that what got done was good or bad. All you do is complain about Obama.

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 07, 2020, 09:01:22 PM »
So what about the ones where the observers were escorted out of the room and the door was locked?   What about the ones where the windows were covered over by cardboard?   

 Are you alleging that allowing to watch "a few" suffices for all?

 Also, again, if there is nothing to hide, then why keep anyone out?  Shouldn't the democrats be willing to prove to everyone how legit this is?

Oh, and by the way, a bunch of the states where Trumplethinskin is baselessly alleging fraud are run by Republicans and have Republican Secretaries of State running the elections.

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Spin Zone / Re: Election 2020
« on: November 07, 2020, 04:28:32 PM »
If Trump wins it has to be fair and square (actually, he didn’t, but we have the Electoral college and it’s part of the constitution). If Biden wins it has to be fraud, because...er...well....TRUMP!

Isn’t even a shred of evidence of fraud except in the imaginations of Trumplethinskin’s supporters.  I wish you guys would just shut the fuck up about it. Might as well wish for the moon.

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Spin Zone / Re: What will a Biden Administration Bring?
« on: November 06, 2020, 01:53:39 PM »
Sanity and adult supervision.

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Spin Zone / Re: Masks don’t work?
« on: November 06, 2020, 01:49:49 PM »
Do a web search on naked bike rides.

There are no laws in the U.S. that require the wearing of pants. The laws on indecent exposure are somewhat variable and exist due to local social norms. Social pressure exists in certain localities wherein nudity is in fact an accepted norm. Ergo by your argument if we establish an accepted social norm of masks being at the discretion of the individual that would be acceptable, correct?

You go out in your municipality without pants and tell me how it goes. And by the way, your pants do naught but cover your modesty.  The mask can prevent you from transmitting a deadly airborne pathogen. 

One of my students today talked about his COVID experience.  He had a high fever for three days.  I've never had. high fever for more than 3 hours.  I'm hoping to skip this one.  Do what you want.

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