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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on July 13, 2016, 10:44:04 AM

Title: Paul Ryan at Town Hall: Opposing Trump Is A Vote For Hillary Clinton
Post by: Lucifer on July 13, 2016, 10:44:04 AM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/07/13/paul_ryan_at_town_hall_opposing_trump_is_a_vote_for_hillary_clinton.html

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PAUL RYAN: Well, first of all, I'd say a few things. That basically means you're going to help elect Hillary Clinton. And I don't think Hillary Clinton's going to support any of the things that you stand for, if you're a Republican.
Title: Re: Paul Ryan at Town Hall: Opposing Trump Is A Vote For Hillary Clinton
Post by: JeffDG on July 13, 2016, 12:16:03 PM
Wait, so now Paul Ryan speaks the truth?
Title: Re: Paul Ryan at Town Hall: Opposing Trump Is A Vote For Hillary Clinton
Post by: Steingar on July 13, 2016, 12:24:22 PM
The election isn't about who much folks like The Donald, its really about how much they hate the Hildebeast. That said, Ryan should be careful for what he wishes.  Whether President Trump does anything Ryan wants is questionable, and I think President Donald will be the end of the GOP.  The election of the Hildebeast for POTUS could be the best thing that ever happened to the GOP.  Energize their base.
Title: Re: Paul Ryan at Town Hall: Opposing Trump Is A Vote For Hillary Clinton
Post by: Dav8or on July 13, 2016, 01:06:32 PM
The election isn't about who much folks like The Donald, its really about how much they hate the Hildebeast. That said, Ryan should be careful for what he wishes.  Whether President Trump does anything Ryan wants is questionable, and I think President Donald will be the end of the GOP.  The election of the Hildebeast for POTUS could be the best thing that ever happened to the GOP.  Energize their base.

The last time the GOP base got energized we ended up with Trump. No thanks.
Title: Re: Paul Ryan at Town Hall: Opposing Trump Is A Vote For Hillary Clinton
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 13, 2016, 01:16:38 PM
  The election of the Hildebeast for POTUS could be the best thing that ever happened to the GOP.  Energize their base.

To do what?
Title: Re: Paul Ryan at Town Hall: Opposing Trump Is A Vote For Hillary Clinton
Post by: acrogimp on July 13, 2016, 01:16:59 PM
The base does not need to be energized, they need to be listened to and respected, THAT is why we have Trump this time, all the previous shit-sandwiches.

The 3 and 4 way polling shows that a vote not for Trump is, in effect, a vote for Hillary in terms of result.  Unlike how Hillary skated from charges from the FBI, intent does not matter.

'Gimp
Title: Re: Paul Ryan at Town Hall: Opposing Trump Is A Vote For Hillary Clinton
Post by: nddons on July 13, 2016, 04:06:52 PM
The last time the GOP base got energized we ended up with Trump. No thanks.
Exactly. If after suffering 8 years with the worst president in American History the GOP  nominates a New York liberal as their nominee, there is no longer a GOP. It's a GDP - Grand Dead Party.
Title: Re: Paul Ryan at Town Hall: Opposing Trump Is A Vote For Hillary Clinton
Post by: Number7 on July 13, 2016, 05:16:56 PM
The truth seems to be that both parties and their adherents are so blinded by ideology that they both provided the WORST possible candidates at the same time. That both parties put forth such awful choices in the same election year tells me that both parties are dying an awful death and we are too busy picking holes in their stories to see the obvious.
Whatever you think of Donald Trump, he is not now, nor will ever be a conservative.
No matter what you think of Hilary Clinton she is not now, nor ever will be honest and trustworthy.
It's impossible either way. That tells me that the majority of neither party has any wish to elect someone either honest and trustworthy, or fiscally conservative to the White House.