PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Mase on July 18, 2016, 07:24:54 AM
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Missing statistics include the number of whites, blacks, hispanics, etc in the Chicago population
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Missing statistics include the number of whites, blacks, hispanics, etc in the Chicago population
45% White
33% Black
~18% Hispanic
Balance - Other
Pretty damning on the face of it.
http://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/1714000,00
'Gimp
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Injecting facts into something like this will get you nowhere. ;)
These statistics are pretty clear and yet it doesn't seem to matter. Where are Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton or any number of other groups coming out and demanding this stop? Every time this gets brought up by a talking head, they are immediately shouted down by whomever the other guest is and it goes nowhere.
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Maybe this has something to do why talking heads get shouted down for bringing this up. An older article but still relevant.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chapman/ct-black-crime-ferguson-sharpton-jason-riley-steve-20140820-column.html
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Crime tends to happen more in poor neighborhoods, and many of those are populated by African Americans. More affluent neighborhoods, where crime rates are far lower, are not often populated by African Americans.
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Crime tends to happen more in poor neighborhoods, and many of those are populated by African Americans. More affluent neighborhoods, where crime rates are far lower, are not often populated by African Americans.
What happened to the war on poverty? Haven't we spent Trillions on that?
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What's missing from this analysis is-
- Whitey forced these people to drop out of school and take to the streets.
- Whitey made them all get addicted to drugs.
- Whitey first introduced and then gave away guns in the neighborhood.
- In short... Whitey made black on black violence happen against black people's will.
Black lives really matter to black people... unless they are stealing their stuff, or talking shit, or invading their turf, or banging their girlfriends, or disrespecting their Mommas, or looking at them sideways, or... ::)
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Crime tends to happen more in poor neighborhoods, and many of those are populated by African Americans. More affluent neighborhoods, where crime rates are far lower, are not often populated by African Americans.
Yes, but black lives are supposed to matter. Why can't these poor people see that? There are poor white people and hispanic people and asian people and even native American people, but you just don't see these kinds of murder statistics with the other groups.
Why is that? I have my theories, I'm just wondering yours.
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Yes, but black lives are supposed to matter. Why can't these poor people see that? There are poor white people and hispanic people and asian people and even native American people, but you just don't see these kinds of murder statistics with the other groups.
Why is that? I have my theories, I'm just wondering yours.
Maybe man made global warming is making all those black criminals kill people, like Obama claims it is making ONLY Muslim terrorists kill innocent people.
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What happened to the war on poverty? Haven't we spent Trillions on that?
It would appear that it was somewhat less than effective.
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It would appear that it was somewhat less than effective.
and the runner up in the understatement of the year award: "the sun is somewhat warm"
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It would appear that it was somewhat less than effective.
If we really wanted to help out we would start a program requiring those on welfare to take course that would lead them toward jobs in career fields that need folks. If they are missing a high school education then require them to take GED classes so they can get there.
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If we really wanted to help out we would start a program requiring those on welfare to take course that would lead them toward jobs in career fields that need folks. If they are missing a high school education then require them to take GED classes so they can get there.
There are lots of jobs in counties and municipalities that could be done by welfare recipients. Picking up trash, janitorial, mowing, etc could be given to those on welfare and change it to "workfare".
And I agree, education needs to be emphasized and followed through.
As my father use to say, if you just keep putting food out on the front porch the dog will never go hunt.
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If we really wanted to help out we would start a program requiring those on welfare to take course that would lead them toward jobs in career fields that need folks. If they are missing a high school education then require them to take GED classes so they can get there.
I cannot disagree with this in the slightest. The one rub is that many, if not most welfare recipients are women with children. For them you need subsidized child care. But getting these folks off welfare and into the workforce should be a priority.
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There are lots of jobs in counties and municipalities that could be done by welfare recipients. Picking up trash, janitorial, mowing, etc could be given to those on welfare and change it to "workfare".
And I agree, education needs to be emphasized and followed through.
As my father use to say, if you just keep putting food out on the front porch the dog will never go hunt.
I love that quote. I'm going to start using it at every opportunity!
Another job that welfare recipients could do is child care for poor working families. (not that I'd want many of them watching my kids though). Perhaps in a structured environment.
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I cannot disagree with this in the slightest. The one rub is that many, if not most welfare recipients are women with children. For them you need subsidized child care. But getting these folks off welfare and into the workforce should be a priority.
Michael, the child care would be money well spent if we get mom off of welfare and into the market. I spent five years in the tech school business teaching electronics. I've often wondered about the feasibility of taking lower income folks and finding a way to give them subsidized training so they can improve their standing.
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Michael, the child care would be money well spent if we get mom off of welfare and into the market. I spent five years in the tech school business teaching electronics. I've often wondered about the feasibility of taking lower income folks and finding a way to give them subsidized training so they can improve their standing.
It seems to me that almost every proposal I ever hear of that tried to address the low-income/unemployed/homeless people always started with some sort of job training. It never seems to catch hold. I have several theories why, but most of them revolve around people that are not motivated to work, won't. As Lucifer said, if you keep putting food on the front porch, the dog will never go hunt.
Even so, I do agree that job training is a necessary part of solving the problem.
But child care is a particular drag on some people (especially women) getting a job. If you make one welfare recipient work in a child care facility that provides free child care for low income people, then you will enable a half dozen others to take a job.
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It seems to me that almost every proposal I ever hear of that tried to address the low-income/unemployed/homeless people always started with some sort of job training. It never seems to catch hold. I have several theories why, but most of them revolve around people that are not motivated to work, won't. As Lucifer said, if you keep putting food on the front porch, the dog will never go hunt.
Even so, I do agree that job training is a necessary part of solving the problem.
But child care is a particular drag on some people (especially women) getting a job. If you make one welfare recipient work in a child care facility that provides free child care for low income people, then you will enable a half dozen others to take a job.
More than likely the previous attempts failed due to the government being involved, unfortunately, or because the contract was given to a political friend that was incapable of putting together a coherent plan. On the other side you have to have rules in place that say if you do not show and put forth an effort you end up with no benefits. Set the expectation of success and enforce it.
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What happened to the war on poverty? Haven't we spent Trillions on that?
If only we taxed wage earners like it was 1956 all of our problems would be solved.
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It would appear that it was somewhat less than effective.
No shit.
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I have family in NC and they fell me that many unemployed adults are strongly encouraged to enroll in community college at taxpayer expense to retrain for another career. What is interesting is that community colleges a,re ordering teachers to give nothing less than a "C" even though many of these people attend one class and never return and that those that do choose to do nothing towards learning new skills and still take the free money AND waste millions on more free education.
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I have family in NC and they fell me that many unemployed adults are strongly encouraged to enroll in community college at taxpayer expense to retrain for another career. What is interesting is that community colleges a,re ordering teachers to give nothing less than a "C" even though many of these people attend one class and never return and that those that do choose to do nothing towards learning new skills and still take the free money AND waste millions on more free education.
That's because "failure" is the new "average".
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The mainstream media, and the Democrats won't allow discussion of Black on Black violent crime, and murder. That facts are clear. Black men are most at risk from other Black men. Not white people, not police. It is tribal (gang), drug, and turf battles in which they are killing each other over. It is allowed to continue at an alarming place by the leftist Democrat leadership in every big, and even smaller cities. They don't care as long as they keep getting their votes.
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The mainstream media, and the Democrats won't allow discussion of Black on Black violent crime, and murder. That facts are clear. Black men are most at risk from other Black men. Not white people, not police. It is tribal (gang), drug, and turf battles in which they are killing each other over. It is allowed to continue at an alarming place by the leftist Democrat leadership in every big, and even smaller cities. They don't care as long as they keep getting their votes.
What about White on White violent crime? MSM won't talk about that either. The fact of the matter is that murder is a crime of familiarity - you victim is an acquaintance of the perpetrator.
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What about White on White violent crime? MSM won't talk about that either. The fact of the matter is that murder is a crime of familiarity - you victim is an acquaintance of the perpetrator.
Who are you kidding, us or yourself?
The media paints every shooting that ISN'T a case of black on black violence as a clanging cymbal for the need of more draconian gun control and every case of white on black violence as proof.
The truth is that the black community, much like every other subgroup of society makes its own problems but with the willing subservience of the media to the goals of the progressive left, they get a pass when other subgroups get hammered.
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What about White on White violent crime? MSM won't talk about that either. The fact of the matter is that murder is a crime of familiarity - you victim is an acquaintance of the perpetrator.
Insignificant compared to Black on Black crime.
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Checked a murder rate lately?
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Checked a murder rate lately?
Yes.