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Title: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: Number7 on October 13, 2023, 05:45:47 AM
I've been reading up on the concept ammonia engine.

Toyota seems to to think they will have one  in production soon.

Has anyone looked into it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w3APY5cAtM
Title: Re: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: Username on October 13, 2023, 06:08:05 AM
Never heard of such a thing.  I didn't even know that ammonia was combustible.  I couldn't make it through the Toyota ads to see if the video actually talked about how it worked.  But poking around, it seems that it is, plus it's used as a carrier for hydrogen for hydrogen fuel cells.  Interesting stuff.  Some points... ammonia has an energy density 1/3 that of diesel.  And it's 120 octane.  I'll have to do some more reading....

Of course anhydrous ammonia (which this is) is often stolen off of farms to make meth.
Title: Re: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: Number7 on October 13, 2023, 06:31:47 AM
I'd love to know if it is cost efficient, because zero emission would shut up a bunch of know-nothing, pain-in-the-ass liberals.

What a great way to shove a sharp stick up opec's ass. Take away their income and they have a muchharder time outsourcing their terrorist buddies.
Title: Re: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: Lucifer on October 13, 2023, 08:00:14 AM
Title: Re: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on October 13, 2023, 08:06:25 AM
Listened, don't like AI voice overs.
Title: Re: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: Jim Logajan on October 13, 2023, 08:22:45 AM
I'm waiting for a Mr. Fusion powered VTOL.  If it can reach orbit that would be cool too.
Title: Re: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: Username on October 13, 2023, 10:10:34 AM
Reading some things about the ammonia engine... Nope.  Ammonia engines put out nitrogen, which is highly dangerous.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/china-gac-ammonia-powered-internal-combustion-engine-car-innovation/
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When it does burn, it is a carbon-free emission and produces zero CO2, zero hydrocarbons, and zero soot. Don't celebrate yet, without an engine using a high compression ratio or boost, it does release a lot of nitrogen into the atmosphere which leads to ammonia and ozone being made in the atmosphere which can lead to acid rain and impair our ability to breathe.
Never mind that the air is already 80% nitrogen.
Title: Re: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: nddons on October 13, 2023, 03:11:13 PM
I've been reading up on the concept ammonia engine.

Toyota seems to to think they will have one  in production soon.

Has anyone looked into it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w3APY5cAtM
California must have solicited this innovation because the smell of the exhaust will match and mask the overwhelming smell of urine on the streets of Cali.
Title: Re: Toyota Is Talking About A New Engine Running On Ammonia
Post by: Number7 on October 13, 2023, 03:15:25 PM
Reading some things about the ammonia engine... Nope.  Ammonia engines put out nitrogen, which is highly dangerous.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/china-gac-ammonia-powered-internal-combustion-engine-car-innovation/Never mind that the air is already 80% nitrogen.

Big auto would hate engines that challenge their model and require innovation to keep up.

As much as they funnel to the big guy I’d imagine he would hate it, too, especially after his masters told him he hated it.