PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Steingar on July 21, 2016, 10:49:19 AM

Title: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Steingar on July 21, 2016, 10:49:19 AM
In an interview with the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/donald-trump-issues.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/donald-trump-issues.html) Donald Trump claimed defense of NAO allies would be conditional:

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Asked about Russia’s threatening activities, which have unnerved the small Baltic States that are among the more recent entrants into NATO, Mr. Trump said that if Russia attacked them, he would decide whether to come to their aid only after reviewing if those nations have “fulfilled their obligations to us.”
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: pilot_dude on July 21, 2016, 11:08:01 AM
It's about time we hold those to whom we support accountable to their agreements.
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: pilot_dude on July 21, 2016, 11:08:31 AM
It's about time we hold those to whom we financially support accountable to their agreements.
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Anthony on July 21, 2016, 12:06:03 PM
Good!  Pay up allies, or be abandoned.  I am tired of my tax dollars going to those that do not appreciate it. 
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Little Joe on July 21, 2016, 01:06:17 PM
In an interview with the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/donald-trump-issues.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/21/us/politics/donald-trump-issues.html) Donald Trump claimed defense of NAO allies would be conditional:
If they are not holding up their end then they are not allies. We already hold up the lions share.
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Steingar on July 21, 2016, 01:09:36 PM
I wonder who you guys will blame when the Russians establish the Soviet Union with all its old players.
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Lucifer on July 21, 2016, 01:17:13 PM
I wonder who you guys will blame when the Russians establish the Soviet Union with all its old players.

Nice deflection.  So you are for supporting and defending countries that won't or barely participate?   
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Little Joe on July 21, 2016, 01:20:31 PM
I wonder who you guys will blame when the Russians establish the Soviet Union with all its old players.
Obama!
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: JeffDG on July 21, 2016, 05:31:44 PM
Good!  Pay up allies, or be abandoned.  I am tired of my tax dollars going to those that do not appreciate it.
Just curious, how many times has the NATO treaty been invoked and by whom?
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: asechrest on July 21, 2016, 10:05:04 PM
Just curious, how many times has the NATO treaty been invoked and by whom?

Hush. They're trying to make America great again.
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Little Joe on July 22, 2016, 04:02:56 AM
Just curious, how many times has the NATO treaty been invoked and by whom?
I seem to remember you bringing this up before. When we called on NATO, had we been holding up our end of the deal?

If I sign a contract for servic s but I don't hold up my end, do I still deserve to r Clive the services?
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: JeffDG on July 22, 2016, 04:35:45 AM
When I sign a contract, I read it and follow the obligations therein.


http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_17120.htm (http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/official_texts_17120.htm)


Where in there is the "pay up" provisio?  In fact, the obligation is to come when called.  Every NATO member has "held up their end of the deal" when called upon by the US.  None of them have yet called upon the US to hold up their end of the deal.
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: President in Exile YOLT on July 22, 2016, 12:29:47 PM
I wonder who you guys will blame when the Russians establish the Soviet Union with all its old players.

I thought your ilk was against the US projecting military power at the expense of the pooeeeerr...
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Anthony on July 27, 2016, 05:34:07 AM
I wonder who you guys will blame when the Russians establish the Soviet Union with all its old players.

Through appeasement, like the "Russian Re-Set", Obama, and Hillary have allowed Russia to become the Soviet Union again. 
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: PaulS on July 27, 2016, 05:51:53 AM
I wonder who you guys will blame when the Russians establish the Soviet Union with all its old players.

Obama,  wtf just happened in the Ukraine under Barry's watch?
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: JeffDG on July 27, 2016, 09:45:44 AM
Looks more and more like Little Donnie took the deal offered by Putin.  Probably has photos of Donnie on Pedophile Island...
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Reporter:  Would you as president want to recognize Crimea as Russian, lift sanctions?
Little Donnie:  Yes we would be looking at that
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Mase on July 27, 2016, 10:56:16 AM
Madeline Albright didn't like the idea of only one superpower.
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: JeffDG on July 27, 2016, 11:48:16 AM
Maybe someone needs to show Donnie this map:
(http://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/1409278026369.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump would abandon NATO allies to Russian attack
Post by: Anthony on July 28, 2016, 04:57:35 AM
Madeline Albright didn't like the idea of only one superpower.

Just another Commie.