PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Mase on July 27, 2016, 11:15:25 AM
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After striking out three times with Not Guilty verdicts and one deadlocked jury, Baltimore D.A. Mosby has dropped all prosecutions of the cops in the Freddie Gray case.
Mosby deserves disbarment and jail for malicious prosecution. What a travesty.
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Excellent. Now these guys can start rebuilding their lives. I wonder if any of them will be cops in Baltimore anymore? Or anywhere else? Not likely for Baltimore I would assume.
I also read that she blamed the cops for Freddie Gray's death anyway despite the acquittals and dismissed charges. Pathetic.
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And Freddie's family still has the $6.4MM of taxpayer loot.
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Story
http://www.gopusa.com/?p=13100?omhide=true (http://www.gopusa.com/?p=13100?omhide=true)
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To those of you cheering for the dropped charges, I have a question for you:
Do you think Freddie Gray killed himself?
Or stated differently:
When in Police custody they are responsible for the safety of all suspects. Mr. Gray was alive when he encountered the police. Sometime after, he was mortally wounded. The Medical Examiner determined that his death was not due to natural causes and ruled his death a homicide. Shouldn't someone be held responsible? Who should be the responsible party?
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To those of you cheering for the dropped charges, I have a question for you:
Do you think Freddie Gray killed himself?
Or stated differently:
When in Police custody they are responsible for the safety of all suspects. Mr. Gray was alive when he encountered the police. Sometime after, he was mortally wounded. The Medical Examiner determined that his death was not due to natural causes and ruled his death a homicide. Shouldn't someone be held responsible? Who should be the responsible party?
Suicide is an opinion being floated since the beginning. If that is factual, the person responsible is dead.
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To those of you cheering for the dropped charges, I have a question for you:
Do you think Freddie Gray killed himself?
Or stated differently:
When in Police custody they are responsible for the safety of all suspects. Mr. Gray was alive when he encountered the police. Sometime after, he was mortally wounded. The Medical Examiner determined that his death was not due to natural causes and ruled his death a homicide. Shouldn't someone be held responsible? Who should be the responsible party?
Just because it was declared a homicide, it doesn't mean a crime was committed. It's a general term used by ME's when a person is killed by another. Now murder is a crime when a person kills another.
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Just because it was declared a homicide, it doesn't mean a crime was committed. It's a general term used by ME's when a person is killed by another. Now murder is a crime when a person kills another.
If you're playing semantics, you're already in 2nd place.
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If you're playing semantics, you're already in 2nd place.
Having a hard time accepting the truth?
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To those of you cheering for the dropped charges, I have a question for you:
Do you think Freddie Gray killed himself?
Or stated differently:
When in Police custody they are responsible for the safety of all suspects. Mr. Gray was alive when he encountered the police. Sometime after, he was mortally wounded. The Medical Examiner determined that his death was not due to natural causes and ruled his death a homicide. Shouldn't someone be held responsible? Who should be the responsible party?
The prosecutor tried and several of the police were acquitted. Despite the fact I believe they were overcharged, they were still tried and found not guilty. How is that not holding someone responsible?
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Did the system work or did it fail?
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Did the system work or did it fail?
Despite attempts to undermine the system, it did work, thanks largely to one courageous (black) judge.
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Despite attempts to undermine the system, it did work, thanks largely to one courageous (black) judge.
So if the system worked (to your satisfaction), then I'd argue that Justice is not a factor in determining the effectiveness of the system. Why? Mr. Gray should still be living and he's not. There's a saying, that's quoted in the Movie, 47 Ronin. If you've not seen the movie, here's the pertinent clip
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I never said I was satisfied with the outcome, only that the system worked.
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I never said I was satisfied with the outcome, only that the system worked.
So you're saying you had a preconceived notion of a result? Yet, in your opinion the system worked???
Systems are designed to meet certain goals. The system of jurisprudence has as its chief, and I'd argue ONLY aim is to provide justice. That wasn't done here. So if the system worked (according to you) then the system either:
1- doesn't meet its design goals
or
2- was never designed for justice to begin with
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So you're saying you had a preconceived notion of a result? Yet, in your opinion the system worked???
Systems are designed to meet certain goals. The system of jurisprudence has as its chief, and I'd argue ONLY aim is to provide justice. That wasn't done here. So if the system worked (according to you) then the system either:
1- doesn't meet its design goals
or
2- was never designed for justice to begin with
you don't think there are any other options?
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So you're saying you had a preconceived notion of a result?
Nope.
Yet, in your opinion the system worked??
Yep.
It was clear from the beginning that there was a rush to judgement by the DA and the Mayor, who took actions based on pressure from a mob, and made inflammatory public remarks. I was hoping someone could slow this down and look at the facts. That, fortunately, was a judge.
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you don't think there are any other options?
you're welcome to add to the list
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If you're playing semantics, you're already in 2nd place.
The legal definition of "homicide" is kind of important here, isn't it? Unless you represent the mob, of course, and are carrying a rope to string somebody up.
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you're welcome to add to the list
I'll take that as: yes, you think those are the options.
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Did he not have a history of hurting himself when in police custody?