PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on November 14, 2023, 08:48:04 AM
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Clown Show. That's the only real explanation of the RNC.
Start with it's Chairperson, Ronna Botox. The niece of one of the biggest RINO's in the country. She has a track record of losses, put's money into losing campaigns and ignores real issues. But, she enjoys lavish private jet trips to resorts and has watched her pay increase to over $400k since assuming office. This twit schedules debates with hostile news agencies, rather than conservative outlets, which in turn gives republicans even more bad publicity.
Any real company would fire someone like her for her track record. Vivek is 100% correct on his assessment of her.
Congress and the Senate. More buffoonery with the RINO Caucus in each house selling out their constituents daily. We just watched 8 RINO's jump in and save Mayorkas from impeachment. This communist asshole has destroyed our southern border and compromised national security, yet the RINO Caucus can't stand the thought of removing him.
Now the RINO Caucus is pushing back on impeaching the most corrupt politician and president in our history. Seems those rooms full of evidence are just not enough for them.
And while acknowledging our country has a rogue Dept of Justice/FBI, they just rewarded the FBI with $300 million plus to build a new headquarters larger than the Pentagon. This money being authorized while our country is bleeding in a debt crisis.
I could go on and on. This party was almost gone in 2015 until it was revived by Trump. And since then, the establishment RINO's have despised the people Trump brought into the party, and even more despised the America First candidates as well.
Here's a good article that sums it up. https://donsurber.substack.com/p/what-has-the-party-done-for-us
Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds rapped Donald Trump in her endorsement of Ron DeSantis, “I believe [Trump] can’t win and I believe that Ron can. And that’s a big reason I got behind him.”
She’s not going for the best candidate. She is going for electability again. Just like McCain was more electable than Ron Paul and Romney was more electable than Newt Gingrich.
Her statement follows the warning back in April from New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu, who wrote in the New York Times, “Winnowing down the field of candidates is the single best chance to stop Mr. Trump. If Mr. Trump is the Republican nominee for president in 2024, Republicans will lose up and down the ballot.”
Reynolds and Sununu don’t get it. Trump supporters no longer care about the party. Why should we? The party hates us and has done everything it can to sabotage us. They ignore our issues to pursue their trivia.
I say this because I finally got fed up last week when the Deseret News reported, “On Wednesday, Rep. Maria Salazar, R-Fla., sponsored a proposal banning the words Latinx and Latin-x in federal paperwork. The proposal is an amendment to one of the House GOP’s 12 appropriations bills made annually. The vote was 222-198 with 215 Republicans and 7 Democrats voting for the amendment.
“Utah Reps. Blake Moore, John Curtis and Burgess Owens voted in favor of the proposal.
“House Democrats who voted in favor of the ban included four members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus: Reps. Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, Yadira Caraveo D-Colo., Vicente Gonzalez D-Texas, and Marie Gluesenkamp Perez, D-Wash. The other three were Reps. Jared Golden, D-Maine., Matt Cartwright D-Pa. and Mary Peltola, D-Alaska.”
Wow. MAGA Mike is showing his leadership by taking on words. Wow. Stopping the government from calling Hispanics the wrong name is his top priority.
Phooey. He’s McCarthy Lite. Look for Dylan Mulvaney’s endorsement soon.
Republicans went through 15 votes to find a House speaker in January and then went through a barrage of votes over 22 days in October to find his replacement. And what do Trump supporters get out of their efforts to get a real leader in the House?
Word games.
Nothing quite says out of touch like wringing your hands over what to label 80 million or so Americans. The actual problem is that our government still asks about race and ethnic background is an affront to the constitutional command that we not judge people by race or creed. The Republican answer is to duel with Democrats over what name to call them.
You say Latinx, I say Hispanics — let’s call the whole thing off.
Of course, that was the last straw. Let’s look at the bales beneath it. I will start with the question that sounds like the title of an Ashton Kutcher movie.
Dude, where’s my wall?
In 2016, Trump supporters took a lot of grief for daring to say build the wall. Never mind that a decade earlier, Congress passed a law to construct one, the media and Hillary blasted us as racist, xenophobic and backward for wanting a wall.
After all that grief — after delivering the White House and the 4,000 political appointments that go with it to Republicans — after keeping the majorities we gave them in Congress in 2014 — we never got a wall. Republicans laughed in our faces.
Gym rat Paul Ryan refused to support the party’s presidential nominee because — get this — Trump used the word pussy in a private conversation 11 years earlier.
Instead of punishing Ryan, the party kept him on as House speaker. And after two years of obstructing President Trump, Ryan quit and cashed in — landing a fat paycheck as a member of the Fox board of directors.
Have Republicans punished the FBI for spying on their 2016 presidential nominee? No, they have not. In fact, MAGA Mike just gave the FBI $375 million to build a new headquarters in Maryland. The FBI worked with the Capitol Police to frame Trump supporters as insurrectionists — and House Republicans let them.
But the bottom-most bale of the straws that broke the back of my Camel is still the Tea Party. They did the improbable and gained 63 seats for Republicans, taking back the House. And they also almost brought back the Senate with an incredible 7-seat gain.
Their reward? Ridicule and the continuation of Obamacare. More than a decade later, it fuels medical evil. Transgendered children butchered in 60 sex-surgery clinics suffered most because Obamacare enabled Obama to not only require health insurers to cover birth control, it empowered him to mandate transsexual plastic surgery.
Obamacare enabled the multi-million-dollar business of mutilating children and teens.
Electing Republicans failed to stop this atrocity. We put in Republican majorities and elected a Republican president and instead of delivering us from this evil, they kept Obamacare going.
But hey, they are using their power now to thwart the use of the words Latinx and Latin-X in government documents, aren’t they? Vote Republican. You can keep your federalization of health care but lose one of the 50 ethnic labels the government slaps on Americans.
Then there is abortion. In the aftermath of yet another victory-turned-into-defeat election, the Republican hierarchy blamed conservatives and not the poor management of the RNC. Oh, it is great at raising money but terrible at winning elections. The RNC blamed its failure in 2018, 2020 and 2022 on Donald Trump — the man who saved the nation from Hillary.
This year, RNC and their failed strategists blamed abortion. After decades of squeezing pro-lifers for donations, the RNC is upset that Roe v. Wade was overturned.
John Feehery, a Republican strategist, told Reuters, “It's a wake up call for Republicans to figure out what the right messaging and the right policy is on abortion because whatever they have now is not popular with voters.
“Republicans have to stop pushing policies that make people believe they are trying to ban abortion. They need to try and find a middle ground right now.”
Middle ground?
Did Republicans seek a middle ground on slavery after losing the 1856 presidential election?
But Republican strategist has become a synonym for Democrat, hasn’t it?
Conservatives have not cost the party a single election since 1964 and the Goldwater debacle. Even then, the Kennedy assassination pretty much locked that race in for Democrats. What has cost Republicans election after election is the moderate wing, which gave us Jerry Ford, George H.W. Bush, John McCain and Mitt Romney.
They were 1-4 in presidential elections. That win was courtesy of Ronald Reagan, whose popularity kept Bush 41 afloat in 1988.
Party loyalty is a joke. Besides rewarding Ryan for not helping the party’s presidential nominee get elected, the party failed to discipline Mitt Romney for being the first senator to vote to convict his party’s president in an impeachment.
He did it again a little over a year later. And lest we forget, House Republicans initially kept Liz Cheney as their No. 3 leader after she helped impeach Trump a second time.
What a ticket Republicans had in 2012: Benedict Romney and Mata Hari Ryan. They have not supported a Republican ticket since because the sad fact is they are imposters who posed as conservatives but worked for Obama, Hillary and now, Biden.
But I am supposed to worry about the Republican ticket down ballot because we must stop Democrats but for decades now, it has been vote Republican, get nothing.
No thank you. I am voting for Trump next year but I may leave the rest of my ballot blank because Republicans are not worthy of my support. It won’t be Donald Trump killing Republicans down ballot; it will be Republican indifference to the electorate that will cost them.
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https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/the-democrats-may-or-may-not-win
The Democrats May Or May Not Win The Next Election - But The Republicans Show Every Indication They Will Lose It
"We’ve become a party of losers at the end of the day.”
“I think there is something deeper going on in the Republican party here, and I am upset about what happened last night.”
“Let’s speak the truth. Since Ronna McDaniel took over as chairwoman of the RNC in 2017, we have lost 2018, 2020, 2022. No red wave that never came.”
“We got trounced last night in 2023, and I think we have to have accountability in our party.”
Vivek Ramaswamy during the most recent Republican Presidential debate. He then asked Ronna McDaniel to resign.
I am not a supporter of Vivek Ramaswamy for President, but let’s be clear. The man is speaking truth. The Republican Party is on the wrong track. Joe Biden is likely the worst President in American history. The economy is a disaster. The world is on fire. The country is awash in illegal immigrants. Every poll shows Biden and the Democrats are hugely unpopular.
Still, the Republicans find a way to lose.
The conventional wisdom amongst establishment Republicans is that people are rejecting MAGA “extremism.” They see in the election results evidence to support their belief that the only way ahead is to back away from ‘America First’ policies and return to the kind of neo-con principles the party championed in the 90s.
The establishment has it exactly backwards. It is the hostility of the party hierarchy to the MAGA movement that is killing Republicans at the polls.
All of the energy in the Republican Party is at the grassroots level where people are overwhelmingly supporters of Donald Trump and his agenda. In fact, even amongst those people who may find Trump personally not their cup of tea, his platform is still wildly popular. The Republican base wants: terms limits, free and fair elections, an end to endless war abroad, a tough line on China, the reindustrialization of the United States, the end of aggressive woke policies aimed at remaking America in some Marxist image, and secure borders.
Perhaps more than any of that, though, they want people who will fight. The base has no trust in the outcome of elections anymore, and yet they see that none of their elected representatives are doing anything to fix the broken electoral system. The base sees that Biden is hopelessly corrupt and likely compromised by hostile foreign powers and yet they wait in vain for any meaningful effort to remove him from office. The base knows there is no border anymore, that our nation is being invaded, and that it is American citizens who are paying the bill for the unfolding disaster, and yet they can find virtually no one who will take action to end this insanity.
The base is angry, increasingly impoverished, and rapidly losing faith in all of the core institutions of our government and society. They want someone to stand up, speak truth, and throw some punches. Other than Trump they see no one willing to do so.
Instead, the base is told over and over again to get behind establishment candidates who do not share their beliefs and show no inclination to tackle real issues. When MAGA candidates do emerge they are systematically eliminated by an entrenched GOP establishment that cuts them off from funding, refuses to endorse them, and then punishes any party officials who step out of line and get behind a “populist” candidate.
The result is electoral disaster. Establishment candidates like Mehmet Oz are trotted out and the base of the party is effectively ordered to get behind them. The lack of enthusiasm is palpable. People stay home in droves on election day. Many have simply stopped voting entirely.
The GOP establishment continues to believe that it can simply demand that registered Republicans vote for anyone with an “R” next to their name. Those days are long gone. If you cannot show by your actions that you stand with the MAGA movement, you will be ignored and considered as bad or worse than the Democrat running against you.
At a recent GOP luncheon, I sat and listened as probably a dozen Republican candidates for office got up and spoke. For fun, I jotted down a couple of dozen issues that I hear people discuss every time I go to a MAGA event in my state of Pennsylvania. I then waited to see how many of these Republican candidates would discuss any of these issues.
Only one did. He mentioned the border for about ten seconds. No one else took time to discuss any of the things infuriating members of the party. Their speeches all amounted to the same thing. I am a Republican – vote for me.
The 2024 election is right around the corner. The GOP establishment shows no signs of changing course or learning from its mistakes. The truth is, I am afraid, the party would rather lose to the Dems than allow the base of the party to take control.
Increasingly Blacks and Latinos are lining up behind Trump; the results could be seismic. Party leaders could care less. Change means a possible loss of control. Letting the people rule is too terrifying for the cabal to contemplate.
The Democrats may or may not win the next election. But, the Republicans show every indication they will lose it.
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Another massive R failure to read the room. Nikki Haley wants to force us all to post under our real names on social media. That plus her warmongering means I will never vote for her. If she somehow ends up the GOP nominee I WILL vote for RFKJr I promise you.
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1724524144954380794
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Another massive R failure to read the room. Nikki Haley wants to force us all to post under our real names on social media. That plus her warmongering means I will never vote for her. If she somehow ends up the GOP nominee I WILL vote for RFKJr I promise you.
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1724524144954380794
Just what I want from Republicans and government. More mandates and restrictions. Ef you Nikki!
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Another massive R failure to read the room. Nikki Haley wants to force us all to post under our real names on social media. That plus her warmongering means I will never vote for her. If she somehow ends up the GOP nominee I WILL vote for RFKJr I promise you.
https://twitter.com/ChristinaPushaw/status/1724524144954380794
That is very disappointing. Even though I see her point it is foolish to make a statement that would have so little support anywhere along the political spectrum from far left to far right, and that includes me. Not to mention that I can't see any way it would pass Constitutional muster.
But I still think she is hot and that counts for something.
So in her support, I will reveal my true name:
Joe Shlabotnik
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That statement was just about as foolish as saying that Mexico would pay for the wall.
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That statement was just about as foolish as saying that Mexico would pay for the wall.
America funds Mexico’s defacto welfare system and American dollars flow into Mexico constantly and at massive rates through workers here sending their earnings there while raking in entitlements here. President Trump made clear that these and other ways were how the wall would be paid for, but the media managed to indoctrinate the public with the idea that Mexico would be writing us a check.
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That is very disappointing. Even though I see her point it is foolish to make a statement that would have so little support anywhere along the political spectrum from far left to far right, and that includes me. Not to mention that I can't see any way it would pass Constitutional muster.
But I still think she is hot and that counts for something.
So in her support, I will reveal my true name:
Joe Shlabotnik
I understand her point too but she is flat out wrong, constitutionally and it would not even work without turning us into a complete totalitarian restrictive regime.
This is one of the very few things I disagree with Jordan Peterson on. He has expressed on Twitter that everyone should post under their real name and if you want to be anonymous you should be restricted to a sub-forum. He is not wrong in the sense of anonymity does bring out the worst in people. But not allowing it has far worse consequences for society.
And I don't think he would support a government mandate like Haley is suggesting. I hope not anyway.
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The worst thing any government could do is to decide that they get to decide what is legal opinion and what isn’t.
The fucking scumbag democrats would immediately outlaw religious, Republican and conservative speech and claim it was in the pursuit of avoiding insulting and offensive opinions.
nikki , was once proud to belong to klaus schwab’s communist front group and she can fornicate a rusty shovel blade long before I would consider her opinions relevant.
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That is very disappointing. Even though I see her point it is foolish to make a statement that would have so little support anywhere along the political spectrum from far left to far right, and that includes me. Not to mention that I can't see any way it would pass Constitutional muster.
But I still think she is hot and that counts for something.
So in her support, I will reveal my true name:
Joe Shlabotnik
I saw a picture of a man I thought was very handsome. I image googled him and it turned out to be a Hillary loving woke lefty and I felt sick to my stomach. Also poor Zelensky is getting less sexy with every day he allows young Ukrainian and Russian men to be killed and maimed in his stalemate of a war. He’s about down to zero now.
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The worst thing any government could do is to decide that they get to decide what is legal opinion and what isn’t.
The fucking scumbag democrats would immediately outlaw religious, Republican and conservative speech and claim it was in the pursuit of avoiding insulting and offensive opinions.
nikki , was once proud to belong to klaus schwab’s communist front group and she can fornicate a rusty shovel blade long before I would consider her opinions relevant.
She is authoritarian. No better than a Democrat or maybe worse because the Democrats don’t even bother to deny it anymore.
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She is authoritarian. No better than a Democrat or maybe worse because the Democrats don’t even bother to deny it anymore.
"Dick Cheney in heels"............
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Another massive R failure to read the room. Nikki Haley wants to force us all to post under our real names on social media. That plus her warmongering means I will never vote for her. If she somehow ends up the GOP nominee I WILL vote for RFKJr I promise you.
It is an interesting idea. Beechtalk is polite and (mostly) professional, and it requires the participants to post under their real names. POA is a shithole and is anonymous where people hide behind pseudonyms as pus erupts from their syphilitic mouths. If you have an opinion, be prepared to stand behind that opinion. But under a government mandate? FUCK NO!
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America funds Mexico’s defacto welfare system and American dollars flow into Mexico constantly and at massive rates through workers here sending their earnings there while raking in entitlements here. President Trump made clear that these and other ways were how the wall would be paid for, but the media managed to indoctrinate the public with the idea that Mexico would be writing us a check.
Thanks Becky. Spot on.
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America funds Mexico’s defacto welfare system and American dollars flow into Mexico constantly and at massive rates through workers here sending their earnings there while raking in entitlements here. President Trump made clear that these and other ways were how the wall would be paid for, but the media managed to indoctrinate the public with the idea that Mexico would be writing us a check.
That's all true, and that's what I have told people for years.
But why didn't he just come out and say that? If he did I missed it. Maybe someone can produce a link.
All I have seen and heard him say is that Mexico would pay for it.
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That's all true, and that's what I have told people for years.
But why didn't he just come out and say that? If he did I missed it. Maybe someone can produce a link.
All I have seen and heard him say is that Mexico would pay for it.
You can’t take what Trump says literally. Just look at what he does.
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You can’t take what Trump says literally. Just look at what he does.
True again.
And that is a big part of his credibility problem.
He is a grown up. He should be able to express himself.
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True again.
And that is a big part of his credibility problem.
He is a grown up. He should be able to express himself.
He’s in his late 70s. He’s not going to change and he’s not perfect. He gave us four years of low gas prices, a booming economy, a secure border (relatively), less regulations and world peace. What the hell more do you want from the guy?
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He’s in his late 70s. He’s not going to change and he’s not perfect. He gave us four years of low gas prices, a booming economy, a secure border (relatively), less regulations and world peace. What the hell more do you want from the guy?
I don't know who said it: Pro Trump takes what he says figuratively, not literally. Anti Trump takes what he says literally, not figuratively. There are two ways to take "Mexico will pay for it". All pro Trump understood what he meant. He could have gone on and on that the fence would pay for itself as Mexicans would not be coming across and being a drain on our limited resources backed up with charts and facts and figures that indirectly Mexico would indeed pay for it. But that's too complex for most people who want a two second sound bite.
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He’s in his late 70s. He’s not going to change and he’s not perfect. He gave us four years of low gas prices, a booming economy, a secure border (relatively), less regulations and world peace. What the hell more do you want from the guy?
How about not adding $8 Trillion to our debt in four years?
How about not lying to us about draining the swamp?
How about giving a little help to the J6 people in prison and bankrupt from legal fees?
Just a thought.
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https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1724586573520327166
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How about not adding $8 Trillion to our debt in four years?
<sigh> people still (incorrectly) go on and on about the President adding debt. It's not the President's job to appropriate money.
At worst (or best) you can claim the President participates, but at the end of the day Congress owns the responsibility.
your other points are valid.
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<sigh> people still (incorrectly) go on and on about the President adding debt. It's not the President's job to appropriate money.
At worst (or best) you can claim the President participates, but at the end of the day Congress owns the responsibility.
your other points are valid.
I know, I'm tired of the deja vu. But he has helped some of the J6ers I heard one of them talk about it. Trump himself doesn't brag about it.
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How about not adding $8 Trillion to our debt in four years?
How about not lying to us about draining the swamp?
How about giving a little help to the J6 people in prison and bankrupt from legal fees?
Just a thought.
The Republican Party fought Trump all the way. When he tried to cut agencies, the republicans swooped in and stopped it.
J6? Are you fuckin’ kidding me? Trump talks about the injustice being done, while the republicans are silent. Hell, the republicans are rewarding the DoJ/FBI instead of reigning them in.
If you really want to talk about the debt, let’s discuss how the republicans have stood side by side with the democrats in these spending sprees.
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I know, I'm tired of the deja vu. But he has helped some of the J6ers I heard one of them talk about it. Trump himself doesn't brag about it.
The republicans have turned their backs on the J6 hostages. No interest whatsoever.
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The republicans have turned their backs on the J6 hostages. No interest whatsoever.
Right. I understand Trump has paid the legal expenses of some of them.
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He’s in his late 70s. He’s not going to change and he’s not perfect. He gave us four years of low gas prices, a booming economy, a secure border (relatively), less regulations and world peace. What the hell more do you want from the guy?
He has been brainwashed to think mean tweets trump all good things.
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"trump all good things"
get it...
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"trump all good things"
get it...
It was very punny.
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<sigh> people still (incorrectly) go on and on about the President adding debt. It's not the President's job to appropriate money.
At worst (or best) you can claim the President participates, but at the end of the day Congress owns the responsibility.
your other points are valid.
The President signs all bills. No spending bills under Trump became law due to a veto override or a pocket veto. It’s his signature on every one of those bills. He could have vetoed any of them and he chose not to do so. Congress can’t appropriate shit without the president’s acquiescence.
I just can’t fucking stand how we are all Conservatives until we have to do Conservative shit like being marginally more fiscally responsible than the money spending democrats.
Trump literally borrowed almost as much in 4 years ($8.2T) as Obama did in 8 years ($8.34T).
He had 5 stimulus relief packages in 2020. Five. Who would have thought that giving forgivable loans in the millions to businesses of all stripes is really what was needed to keep the economy afloat, and wouldn’t help trigger the inflation we have today?
But hey, he would have been crucified by the public if he didn’t “do something.” Well boo hoo. I thought we hired adults to lead the country.
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The President signs all bills. No spending bills under Trump became law due to a veto override or a pocket veto. It’s his signature on every one of those bills. He could have vetoed any of them and he chose not to do so. Congress can’t appropriate shit without the president’s acquiescence.
I just can’t fucking stand how we are all Conservatives until we have to do Conservative shit like being marginally more fiscally responsible than the money spending democrats.
Trump literally borrowed almost as much in 4 years ($8.2T) as Obama did in 8 years ($8.34T).
He had 5 stimulus relief packages in 2020. Five. Who would have thought that giving forgivable loans in the millions to businesses of all stripes is really what was needed to keep the economy afloat, and wouldn’t help trigger the inflation we have today?
But hey, he would have been crucified by the public if he didn’t “do something.” Well boo hoo. I thought we hired adults to lead the country.
He’s not perfect but you’re swimming against a tsunami trying to get someone else on the Republican ticket.
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He’s not perfect but you’re swimming against a tsunami trying to get someone else on the Republican ticket.
But if we just put an establishment republican on the ticket and let the RNC run the campaign, we will get to watch them go down in flames and give us a real nifty concession speech.
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He’s not perfect but you’re swimming against a tsunami trying to get someone else on the Republican ticket.
It's been pointed out that it's tough to compete against a martyr.
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It's been pointed out that it's tough to compete against a martyr.
It's tough to compete when the party doesn't put up candidates people want to vote for. This is yet another massive failure of the RNC who favors establishment types and is tone deaf to the voters.
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He’s not perfect but you’re swimming against a tsunami trying to get someone else on the Republican ticket.
I’m trying to point out how some of you have put blinders on the real problems that Trump gave us. Yes, he did many great things. He also did things that any OBJECTIVE person would say that no president should have done.
If you don’t give a shit about $8T in debt in 4 years, then I guess there’s not much to talk about. I do care.
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But if we just put an establishment republican on the ticket and let the RNC run the campaign, we will get to watch them go down in flames and give us a real nifty concession speech.
More lies from your messiah, who cannot win the general election in my opinion. And at the end of the day that’s all that matters.
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More lies from your messiah, who cannot win the general election in my opinion. And at the end of the day that’s all that matters.
He's not my "messiah".
You refuse to acknowledge what a train wreck the RNC has become, and that once again they are pushing establishment types that the voters are rejecting. As long as you have trash like the Romneys, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, the Bushes and other RINO's running the show, expect more losses.
You will never admit to how bad the establishment has fucked over it's own party members.
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Nikki will save us all, she's the new darling of the media.
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Nikki will save us all, she's the new darling of the media.
"Dick Cheney in heels"....... LOL!
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Nikki will save us all, she's the new darling of the media.
If the media likes her she's bad.
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He's not my "messiah".
You refuse to acknowledge what a train wreck the RNC has become, and that once again they are pushing establishment types that the voters are rejecting. As long as you have trash like the Romneys, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, the Bushes and other RINO's running the show, expect more losses.
You will never admit to how bad the establishment has fucked over it's own party members.
You have a serious reading comprehension problem, and a lying problem. I have the same disgust with the GOP as you do, and have never said anything supportive of any of the above. They are all a blight on the party and the conservative movement.
As for the RNC, it seems like Mitt Romney’s niece and four-time Trump-endorsed Ronna “Botox” McDaniel is doing the bidding of Donald Trump by not requiring all candidates to participate in debates if they want to be the party’s nominee. Trump is getting everything he paid for with Ronna. Who’s the RINO?
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I’m trying to point out how some of you have put blinders on the real problems that Trump gave us. Yes, he did many great things. He also did things that any OBJECTIVE person would say that no president should have done.
If you don’t give a shit about $8T in debt in 4 years, then I guess there’s not much to talk about. I do care.
I, for one, do indeed care about the debt. But I know who was responsible.
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I, for one, do indeed care about the debt. But I know who was responsible.
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<sigh> people still (incorrectly) go on and on about the President adding debt. It's not the President's job to appropriate money.
At worst (or best) you can claim the President participates, but at the end of the day Congress owns the responsibility.
your other points are valid.
Perhaps not you Bob, but it's kind of funny how people say President (Trump) is not responsible for the debt; Congress is. But then turn around and blame Biden for the new, larger Debt.
In truth, the President IS responsible for several reason. He has the bully pulpit. He has a lot of "power of persuasion" and he has to sign off on it. So Trump and Bush are just as responsible as Obama and Biden. I didn't add Clinton because Gingrich was able to keep him in check.
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He’s not perfect but you’re swimming against a tsunami trying to get someone else on the Republican ticket.
I've lost track of how many times I've heard "He's not perfect but . . ." about Trump.
I've also lost track of the times I have complained about some of his other policies and people that claim to be staunch conservatives say "Trump isn't a conservative but . . .
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I've lost track of how many times I've heard "He's not perfect but . . ." about Trump.
I've also lost track of the times I have complained about some of his other policies and people that claim to be staunch conservatives say "Trump isn't a conservative but . . .
I’ve never claimed to be a staunch conservative.
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I’ve never claimed to be a staunch conservative.
But a lot of his supporters do claim that.
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Apparently people don't understand the difference between primary responsibility and contributing responsibility.
A pilot departs, flies into IMC, loses control, pops out the bottom of the overcast/clouds inverted/spinning out of control... and the plane comes apart.
Various contributing factors contributing to the fatality, but the primary cause of the "accident" is....
No budget bill is signed or vetoed by the President unless it comes from Congress. The President doesn't get to do anything but sign it or veto it. Congress is responsible for passing deficit budgets.
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You have a serious reading comprehension problem, and a lying problem. I have the same disgust with the GOP as you do, and have never said anything supportive of any of the above. They are all a blight on the party and the conservative movement.
As for the RNC, it seems like Mitt Romney’s niece and four-time Trump-endorsed Ronna “Botox” McDaniel is doing the bidding of Donald Trump by not requiring all candidates to participate in debates if they want to be the party’s nominee. Trump is getting everything he paid for with Ronna. Who’s the RINO?
On your liar statement: FUCK YOU and the horse you rode in on. Your mouth is writing checks your fat lumpy ass can’t cash.
Now, back to the conversation. If the RNC actually wanted a win, they would get behind a candidate the voters wanted, not constantly try to undermine.
I disagree with Trump backing Ronna Botox as she is as fucked up as her uncle. Honestly I wish Trump would have dumped the pathetic republicans and let their party become a fringe outsider that they so richly deserve.
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Perhaps not you Bob, but it's kind of funny how people say President (Trump) is not responsible for the debt; Congress is. But then turn around and blame Biden for the new, larger Debt.
In truth, the President IS responsible for several reason. He has the bully pulpit. He has a lot of "power of persuasion" and he has to sign off on it. So Trump and Bush are just as responsible as Obama and Biden. I didn't add Clinton because Gingrich was able to keep him in check.
The Republican Party holds the lion share responsibility of the out of control debt. There’s no disputing that. The last Speaker was a prime example.
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The flow diagram is incomplete.
Unlike most bills, the budget process generally starts with the president submitting a budget proposal or guidelines to congress. Legislation enacted in 1921 had turned over a lot of the preliminary budget setting to the executive branch. Subsequent laws modified some of the process.
Supporting source: https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-constitution-and-the-federal-budget-process (https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-constitution-and-the-federal-budget-process)
So today, the Congress and the President share budget responsibilities, under a very general mandate from the Constitution. The President proposes annual budget guidelines. The proposed budget from the President is considered and amended in many cases by House and Senate committees. At some point, a group of House and Senate members meets to work out differences between these appropriations bills. And then the President signs the individual bills, or the one bill that includes the entire budget. If not all the bills are signed by October 1, Congress can pass a continuing resolution until all the bills are passed. But in some cases, a deadlock can lead to a government shutdown if continuing resolutions aren’t passed by that deadline.
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Apparently people don't understand the difference between primary responsibility and contributing responsibility.
A pilot departs, flies into IMC, loses control, pops out the bottom of the overcast/clouds inverted/spinning out of control... and the plane comes apart.
Various contributing factors contributing to the fatality, but the primary cause of the "accident" is....
No budget bill is signed or vetoed by the President unless it comes from Congress. The President doesn't get to do anything but sign it or veto it. Congress is responsible for passing deficit budgets.
Oh for Christ’s sake, Bob. Glad you see that the president is involved in the process, but primary and “contributing” responsibly are your terms without any relevance.
We have three branches of government, and two of them are responsible for passing every bill, including revenue bills. Article I, Section 7 spells it all out, including the President’s responsibility in the process.
From a practical perspective, the Executive branch regularly butts their heads into negotiations to help shape a bill that the President can sign, politically. It is not like Congress sends thousand page bills to the President without his prior knowledge of what’s in it, and expect him to sign it within the 10-day window. Presidents know exactly what they are getting before they get it.
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No budget bill is signed or vetoed by the President unless it comes from Congress. The President doesn't get to do anything but sign it or veto it. Congress is responsible for passing deficit budgets.
Damn. I guess I will have to stop blaming Biden and Obama for their parts in raising the deficits. (Which is probably only fair, but still . . .
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If the RNC actually wanted a win, they would get behind a candidate the voters wanted, not constantly try to undermine.
I disagree with Trump backing Ronna Botox as she is as fucked up as her uncle. Honestly I wish Trump would have dumped the pathetic republicans and let their party become a fringe outsider that they so richly deserve.
Agree. And the voters want President Trump. By orders of magnitude. RNC needs to die. It’s not serving anyone but itself. Pournelle’s iron law of bureaucracy.
https://www.jerrypournelle.com/reports/jerryp/iron.html
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On your liar statement: FUCK YOU and the horse you rode in on. Your mouth is writing checks your fat lumpy ass can’t cash.
Now, back to the conversation. If the RNC actually wanted a win, they would get behind a candidate the voters wanted, not constantly try to undermine.
I disagree with Trump backing Ronna Botox as she is as fucked up as her uncle. Honestly I wish Trump would have dumped the pathetic republicans and let their party become a fringe outsider that they so richly deserve.
Yea well go fuck yourself. Every statement you made about me not acknowledging the damage of the RNC, RINOs and the establishment - you used all three- was a fucking lie, and you have zero basis for those statements. I’ve been here since the beginning of PS so everyone here knows my conservative bona fides.
You also continue to lie about Ron DeSantis - co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus - being establishment. You must think I’m one of those Crayon eaters who eat up that lie started by Trump and then parrot it over and over and over. You thought incorrectly.
As for Trump supporting McDaniel, this is from Wiki:
“On November 13, 2016, Reince Priebus, chairman of the RNC, was announced as the new White House Chief of Staff, thereby turning the RNC chairman election into an open seat election. Soon afterward, several candidates were reported as likely to seek the position, including McDaniel.[19] On December 14, 2016, McDaniel was chosen by then president-elect Trump as his recommendation to replace Priebus.[20][2] She served as deputy chair before her formal election.[18] She was officially elected as RNC chair on January 19, 2017, by unanimous vote, becoming the second woman (after Mary Louise Smith) in RNC history to hold the post.[21] According to The Washington Post, Trump requested that she stop using her maiden name, and McDaniel subsequently did not use it in official communications.[22] McDaniel denies that Trump pressured her to change the name.[14]
“McDaniel was re-elected as RNC chair in unanimous elections in both 2019 and 2021, with the endorsement of Trump in both elections.[23][24]”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronna_McDaniel
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The flow diagram is incomplete.
Unlike most bills, the budget process generally starts with the president submitting a budget proposal or guidelines to congress. Legislation enacted in 1921 had turned over a lot of the preliminary budget setting to the executive branch. Subsequent laws modified some of the process.
Supporting source: https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-constitution-and-the-federal-budget-process (https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-constitution-and-the-federal-budget-process)
So today, the Congress and the President share budget responsibilities, under a very general mandate from the Constitution. The President proposes annual budget guidelines. The proposed budget from the President is considered and amended in many cases by House and Senate committees. At some point, a group of House and Senate members meets to work out differences between these appropriations bills. And then the President signs the individual bills, or the one bill that includes the entire budget. If not all the bills are signed by October 1, Congress can pass a continuing resolution until all the bills are passed. But in some cases, a deadlock can lead to a government shutdown if continuing resolutions aren’t passed by that deadline.
Yea, well I kind of knew it was a simplified version, Jim. I couldn’t find the Sesame Street version to post.
There are plenty of other diagrams out there that are illustrative yet still simplified.
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Great diagram, except it's "Lobbyist needs profits" instead of "Idea" and each arrow is replaced by "bribe and/or campaign contribution"
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Yea well go fuck yourself. Every statement you made about me not acknowledging the damage of the RNC, RINOs and the establishment - you used all three- was a fucking lie, and you have zero basis for those statements. I’ve been here since the beginning of PS so everyone here knows my conservative bona fides.
You also continue to lie about Ron DeSantis - co-founder of the House Freedom Caucus - being establishment. You must think I’m one of those Crayon eaters who eat up that lie started by Trump and then parrot it over and over and over. You thought incorrectly.
As for Trump supporting McDaniel, this is from Wiki:
“On November 13, 2016, Reince Priebus, chairman of the RNC, was announced as the new White House Chief of Staff, thereby turning the RNC chairman election into an open seat election. Soon afterward, several candidates were reported as likely to seek the position, including McDaniel.[19] On December 14, 2016, McDaniel was chosen by then president-elect Trump as his recommendation to replace Priebus.[20][2] She served as deputy chair before her formal election.[18] She was officially elected as RNC chair on January 19, 2017, by unanimous vote, becoming the second woman (after Mary Louise Smith) in RNC history to hold the post.[21] According to The Washington Post, Trump requested that she stop using her maiden name, and McDaniel subsequently did not use it in official communications.[22] McDaniel denies that Trump pressured her to change the name.[14]
“McDaniel was re-elected as RNC chair in unanimous elections in both 2019 and 2021, with the endorsement of Trump in both elections.[23][24]”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronna_McDaniel
You must be one the Paul Ryan daily talking points email.
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Where is the money coming from supporting DeSantis?
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You must be one the Paul Ryan daily talking points email.
Origin of the the post's contents is irrelevant in determining its validity. Which claims in the post are you disputing, if any?
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Yet, when BALLOTS were counted with faulty or non existent signatures, Ronna Botox was just fine with that.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rnc-says-will-take-democrat-arizona-election-official-court-win-state-certifies-patriot-party
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I'm no fan of Santos, but once again we will witness the republicans form a circular firing squad to defeat one of their own.
https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2023/11/29/congress/expelling-santos-whip-count-00129052
Never mind what democrats have done. We've seen marrying a brother to gain citizenship, paying family members campaign funds, supporting terrorist organizations, insider trading, etc.
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Thank God I'm no longer a Republican. Almost all douche bag swamp dwellers. In it purely for personal gain.
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https://1ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fpolitics%2F2023%2F11%2F29%2Fexclusive-speaker-johnson-grants-clemency-amnesty-25-intransigents-blocked-jordan-house-floor%2F
Exclusive – Speaker Johnson Grants Clemency and Amnesty to the 25 Intransigents who Blocked Jordan on House Floor
Newly minted House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) is granting clemency and amnesty to the 25 intransigent House Republicans who violated the formal will of the House GOP conference when they took to the House floor to block a Speakership bid from House Judiciary Committee Chairman Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) earlier this year.
Johnson formally declined to comment, through spokesman Raj Shah, when asked a series of in-depth questions from Breitbart News about what specific consequences would befall the 25 intransigent Republicans for the harm they caused the country in October. Breitbart News told Johnson’s team that these questions would be printed in full, with or without answers, which means the Speaker was aware when he declined to comment that this story would be published.
The specific questions that Speaker Johnson refused to answer are as follows:
1. Can you guarantee Americans that you will never support Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-FL), in your time as Speaker, becoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee?
2. Why is Rep. Kay Granger (R-TX) still the chairwoman of the House Appropriations Committee? She is a lame duck who has announced she is not running for reelection after her intransigence against House Republicans. You’ve been Speaker for more than a month now, so why have you not yet acted in rectifying this wrong committed against the country by keeping her in this position?
3. An astounding total of 7 of the intransigent Republicans — Granger, and Reps. Mario Díaz-Balart (R-FL), Mike Simpson (R-ID), Steve Womack (R-AR), John Rutherford (R-FL), Jake Ellzey (R-TX), and Tony Gonzales (R-TX) — serve on the House Appropriations Committee. That means these intransigent individuals have significant influence over the direction of the spending of Americans’ tax dollars, a truly horrifying thought after what they put the country through in October. Do you as Speaker support their removal from the Appropriations Committee?
4. Several others — Reps. Jen Kiggans (R-VA), Nick LaLota (R-NY), Carlos Gimenez (R-FL), and Don Bacon (R-NE) — serve on the House Armed Services Committee. Given the damage these intransigents did to the country, do you support for the sake of strengthening the United State military replacing these individuals off of the Armed Services Committee with Republicans who are not corrupted by the horrifying actions these people took in October?
5. What other consequences, if any, will befall the 25 intransigents who inflicted serious and massive pain upon the country with their actions?
The full list of the 25 intransigents is as follows:
Rep. Don Bacon (R-NE)
Rep. Vern Buchanan (R-FL)
Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer (R-OR)
Rep. Anthony D’Esposito (R-NY)
Rep. Mario Díaz-Balart (R-FL)
Rep. Jake Ellzey (R-TX)
Rep. Drew Ferguson (R-GA)
Rep. Andrew Garbarino (R-NY)
Rep. Carlos Gimenez (R-FL)
Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX)
Rep. John James (R-MI)
Rep. Mike Kelly (R-PA)
Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA)
Rep. Kay Granger (R-TX)
Rep. John Rutherford (R-FL)
Rep. Mike Simpson (R-ID)
Rep. Pete Stauber (R-MN)
Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO)
Rep. Jen Kiggans (R-VA)
Rep. Nick LaLota (R-NY)
Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR)
Rep. Mike Lawler (R-NY)
Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA)
Rep. Thomas Kean Jr. (R-NJ)
Rep. Marc Molinaro (R-NY)
These 25 members openly violated the will of the House Republican conference in October — some of them on at least three occasions — on the floor of the House of Representatives when they voted against Jordan for Speaker when he was the official House GOP conference nominee. Jordan received more than 200 votes, but because of these intransigents Jordan was blocked from the Speakership.
Technically, there is no formal rule in the House GOP conference requiring members to vote for the conference nominee for Speaker on the floor. However, doing so usually leads to actual and real consequences for members. When conservatives did it to former Speakers John Boehner or Paul Ryan, for instance, there were real consequences — members who did so did not get golden treatment, such as service on what are known as “A Committees” like Appropriations, Armed Services, or Ways and Means, never mind getting the gavels to chair those committees.
As such, it’s particularly troubling that Johnson at this stage is formally declining to answer questions about what he plans to do with these people — if anything. A lack of answers — and a lack of action — essentially means he has forgiven them for their sins or granted them an amnesty and clemency for their actions.
A big part of why several of these big government establishment Republicans blocked Jordan is because they know Jordan would have actually changed the way things work in Congress. Johnson, while portraying himself as a change agent, really has not changed anything at all from the ways things worked back when now former Speaker Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) was running things. In fact, Johnson may have even taken several steps backward toward to the Ryan and Boehner days, and away from reforms conservatives were able to secure from McCarthy. The biggest piece of evidence of Johnson’s regression is the fact that he, before Thanksgiving, championed a continuing resolution to fund the federal government at the same levels for which eight Republicans — Rep. Ken Buck (R-CO) is in both camps, one of the original eight against McCarthy and one of the 25 intransigents against Jordan — removed McCarthy. Johnson’s CR splits the government funding into two different deadlines in early next year, providing multiple opportunities for Democrats to pull more over on Republicans and hurt the GOP even more.
It’s actually so bad, in fact, that now Johnson is literally talking about altogether abandoning the past year of House GOP efforts to move off omnibuses and CRs to individual appropriations bills. House Republicans have spilled figurative blood amongst themselves trying to pass the several appropriations bills they have passed, but now Johnson is saying publicly that the House will consider and approve a full-year-long CR early next year for the entire federal government — and perhaps most ironically House conservatives seem to say they will go along with Johnson even though they ousted McCarthy for it — which raises the question yet again about who are the people who are actually responsible for this mess. Well, those people are the people on the House Appropriations Committee — and 7 of the 25 intransigents against Jordan are on that committee.
So, if Speaker Johnson actually wanted to see real change, there would be consequences for the intransigents and their actions against the country. These people threw the House into even more chaos than already existed due to their 8 counterparts who ousted McCarthy. They had a way out, and a way for substantive change. It was Jordan, who would have gotten the House more organized weeks before Johnson — who still has failed and looks like he is heading for more failure in the coming weeks and months ahead barring a drastic change — but these people chose to plunge Congress into more chaos and uncertainty because they seem to all care more about keeping the status quo in Washington at all costs than they do about solving the nation’s problems.
Maybe for some such as Granger or Simpson it’s because they’ve been in Congress for decades and remember how great the “good ole days” were. For others, such as Rutherford — who literally also sits on the House Ethics Committee which supposedly “investigated” then “cleared” him when he bought thousands in Raytheon stock the day Russia invaded Ukraine then failed as required by the STOCK Act to lawfully report the trades — it might be because they want to keep padding those IRAs with suspicious trades on the way to retirement. But whatever the reason, the fact that these people are — thanks to Speaker Johnson, who spent Wednesday meeting yet again with Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell instead of doing something to solve this problem — getting away with this intransigence is mind-boggling to ordinary Americans nationwide.
So, Johnson and his team can claim all they want that they are “fighting” the Senate on Ukraine-and-border-whatever-nonsense-the-swamp-cooks-up-next, and they probably will claim that, but real change is again elusive for Americans desperate for Congress to stop being the nation’s gutter. Because here’s what’s coming: A CR that funds the government for a full year at Democrat levels, more Ukraine funding, no real border solution, probably a renewal of FISA/section 702 which means more government surveillance, and more kicking the can down the road forever. That’s all because Johnson thus far refuses to do anything about the real cause of the problem: The 25 intransigents and people like them. The only conclusion one can draw from the lack of action here is that Johnson does not want things to change at all.
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So far I like M. Johnson.
Time will tell.
God FORBID a republican do what they believe is best, instead of what the party thinks is in their best interest.
Execution is the only honorable result for such treason.
What a bunch of asshole swamp dwellers.
Do what you're told.
Ignore the will of the voters.
Serve the real royalty in china...
Fuck the swamp.
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For me the jury is still out on Johnson. He does have the UniParty pushing him behind the scenes, and of course he has to deal with the RINO Caucus daily.
McCarthy is threatening to leave congress (as if that's a bad idea). I'm sure his pal and mentor Ryan will have a cushy high paying job awaiting him.
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The announcement that kevie is leaving congress a year early has the same impact in the news as obama announcing that he has purchase another beachfront home.
Who fucking cares?
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https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1730360809522401522
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Fourth debate.
Ronna Botox has turned these debates into clown shows. Instead of showcasing why these candidates should be nominated and elected, and what they would offer as president, it's nothing more than a Jerry Springer type free for all that is discrediting the party.
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The announcement that kevie is leaving congress a year early has the same impact in the news as obama announcing that he has purchase another beachfront home.
Who fucking cares?
Well, with Santos out and McCarthy leaving, the GOP margin will 220-213 until those special elections take place to replace them. If those seats go Dem (likely in NY and CA) then the margin will be 5, meaning Johnson can only at most have two GOP defectors on any vote. Good luck with passing conservative policies.
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Who said anything about passing conservative policies?
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Who said anything about passing conservative policies?
Yeah. Now that people admit that Trump is not a conservative, I guess we don't like conservatives here any more. ;)
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Yeah. Now that people admit that Trump is not a conservative, I guess we don't like conservatives here any more. ;)
That word is thrown around a lot but I’m not sure everybody means the same thing by it.
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Yeah. Now that people admit that Trump is not a conservative, I guess we don't like conservatives here any more. ;)
The republicans in congress have no desire to pass anything conservative. This is why we have endless CR's, no border security and no immigration protections.
And right now the republicans are busy reducing their numbers by attacking other republicans, or in one case taking their ball and going home because they didn't get their way.
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More "conservative policies" brought to you by the republican majority congress.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/09/the-modified-fisa-702-reauthorization-bill-hr-6611-has-passed-the-house-the-changes-have-expanded-federal-surveillance-of-americans/
House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) Chairman Mike Turner is celebrating the passage of HR 6611, the 2023 FISA reauthorization bill.
Chairman Turner would have granted a clean FISA renewal, he’s that kind of Republican; however, several Republicans demanded changes to the FISA-702 authorities that capture the data of American citizens without a warrant. Thus, the HPSCI modified the authorities within HR 6611, but they made it worse.
(Via CDT) – Tucked away near the end of the bill the House Intelligence Committee reported on December 7 (H.R. 6611, the “HPSCI bill”) is a provision that would dramatically expand surveillance under the controversial Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (“FISA 702”), which sunsets on December 31 unless reauthorized. Section 504 of the bill, innocuously captioned “Definition of Electronic Communications Service Provider,” would expand the types of entities that can be compelled to disclose internet communications whether in storage or in transit.
FISA 702 permits the U.S. government to compel communication service providers to disclose for foreign intelligence purposes the communications of persons reasonably believed to be non-U.S. persons abroad. No warrant is required; a belief that the communications relate to U.S. foreign affairs or national security is sufficient. Under current FISA 702, only entities that provide communication services like email, calls, and text messaging can be compelled to disclose these communications.
As FISA Court amicus and longtime practitioner Marc Zwilligener and his colleague Steve Lane have already noted, the HPSCI bill would upend the current system, enabling the government to compel anyone with mere access to the equipment on which such communications are stored or transmitted to disclose those communications. That could include personnel at coffee shops that offer WiFi to their customers, a town library that offers public computer internet services, hotels, shared workspaces, landlords and even AirBNB hosts that offer WiFi to the people who stay there, cloud storage services that host but do not access data, and large data centers that rent out computer server space to their clients.
The provision is intended to reverse a rare decision of the FISA Court of Review (FISCR), which had rejected the government’s claim that a service that a company provided fit within the scope of Section 702. In its effort to override the FISCR ruling, the HPSCI bill has opened Pandora’s Box.
Because FISA 702 does not merely give the government power to compel production of communications but rather to require that businesses “provide the Government with all information, facilities, or assistance necessary to accomplish the acquisition,” [emphasis supplied] the government could use this new section to compel changes to the infrastructure and operations of some of the business entities listed above. For example, a provider of computer co-location services whose business model is to rent out and to service space on which its clients place their computer servers could be compelled to engineer its service to facilitate such access. In addition, because the HPSCI bill’s expansion is designed to pull in entities that do not currently even have access to communications, the extent of this forced restructure could be severe.
Such a shift not only affects American businesses, it is also likely to spur on overcollection and improperly sweep in Americans’ communications. The expansion would likely facilitate compelled “Upstream” collection from these entities, a technique in which the government demands access to the entire stream of communications data, rather than obtaining only the communications to and from surveillance targets. It may be difficult for businesses that have access to equipment on which communications are stored and transmitted, but have never had to access the communications themselves, to ensure that only the data of Section 702 targets is turned over to the government.
Instead, they may be compelled to turn over entire communication streams or permit the copying and dragnet scanning of all the data on a server they host. Upstream collection performed by sophisticated giant telcos who operate the Internet backbone already has a fraught history of overcollection, including sweeping in wholly domestic communications (such as through multi communication transaction and “Abouts” collection). Forcing businesses that do not by practice even access communications to comply with FISA 702 orders—including Upstream orders—is reckless, and very likely to cause domestic communications to be improperly collected. (read more)
Here’s the core problem. The DATA COLLECTION is not going away, meaning the wholesale gathering of the metadata on all electronic communication is the baseline. As long as that baseline exists, the debate is about how the metadata can be accessed and what queries into that data can take place without a search warrant.
If FISA-702 was completely removed, the executive branch (DOJ-NSD) would be on the honor system, which essentially- they are now.
As long as the capability to retrieve and store the data exists, it will be exploited. The data collection horse left the barn long ago. That reality only leaves the ability to limit access as a solution to the abuses and warrantless surveillance.
Having looked extensively at this issue for years, and accepting the data collection is never going to be stopped, the only pathway to try and ensure rules and regulations are compliant with the 4th amendment, would be an oversight panel from the legislative branch put inside the process.
The only time the legislative branch has any power in the FISA process, is when they reauthorize its use. Only at these specific moments is the legislative branch currently involved. At all other times, it is the executive branch (DOJ, DOJ-NSD and FBI) involved, along with the FISA Court which represents the judicial branch. The absence of the legislative branch in the process could be considered the oversight problem.
FISA, as it applies to American citizens caught up in the “incidental collection,” is clearly weaponized. The underlying database, the storage system for all data, is the other problem. As long as thousands of people in the executive branch have access to search this database, that access will be abused.
[CTH] – Office of Inspector General Michael Horowitz testified, April 27, 2023, that more than 3.4 million search queries into the NSA database took place between Dec. 1st, 2020 and Nov. 30th, 2021, by government officials and/or contractors working on behalf of the federal government. These search queries were based on authorizations related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).
Approximately 30% of those 3.4 million search queries were outside the rules and regulations that govern warrantless searches – what the politically correct government calls “non-compliant searches.” That means during the year 2021, more than 1 million searches of private documents and communication of Americans were illegal and outside the rules.
Additionally, IG Horowitz admitted that somewhere north of 10,000 federal employees have access to conduct these searches of the NSA database; a database which contains the electronic data of every single American, including emails, text messages, social media posts, instant messages, direct messages, phone calls, geolocation identifiers, purchases by electronic funds, banking records and any keystroke any American person puts into any electronic device for any reason. (more)
In my opinion, instead of trying to put the FISA genie back into the bottle, Congress needs to work on the accountability piece. The punishment for abusing the database needs to be defined – perhaps 5 years imprisonment for each search violation.
The only thing I can think of that will improve the “702” issue, is a legislatively created oversight panel forced within the process (that puts the legislative branch inside the DOJ/FISC relationship) that has full access to see and monitor everything that is being done by the DOJ/FBI.
I don’t know if that would work, but it’s better than what they are doing now.
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More "conservative policies" brought to you by the republican majority congress.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/12/09/the-modified-fisa-702-reauthorization-bill-hr-6611-has-passed-the-house-the-changes-have-expanded-federal-surveillance-of-americans/
Here's hoping the it doesn't get past the Senate. Some, but not enough, Republicans in the House do object to the law.
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Yeah. Now that people admit that Trump is not a conservative, I guess we don't like conservatives here any more. ;)
Wrong. The reality is, almost no Republicans are "conservative". I hold many conservative values, but am also Libertarian leaning. Nothing is black and white. Republicans talk a good game, then do NOTHING. That's why I don't consider myself a Republican any longer, nor a "conservative" because it's too complex to just be defined by one word.
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Wrong. The reality is, almost no Republicans are "conservative". I hold many conservative values, but am also Libertarian leaning. Nothing is black and white. Republicans talk a good game, then do NOTHING. That's why I don't consider myself a Republican any longer, nor a "conservative" because it's too complex to just be defined by one word.
Yes. If a conservative is Matt Walsh for example, with whom I agree on a lot of stuff, I don’t agree with him that porn should all be illegal and that sex change surgery should be banned for all ages. Children yes. But if you are 50 and want to cut off your dick the government has no right to stop you. No taxpayer dollars should fund it though.
A conservative should have a balanced budget. A conservative should not pass millions of petty regulations. The Republicans have not abided by this at all.
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Styx is back. Something big happened to him and he was gone for a while, and he blew up in a rage on Twitter. Something about his ex having connections in the Netherlands and getting a drug pusher to attack him, and he had to come back to the U.S. for good. Or possibly just came to do a podcast with Tim Poole.
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"His Master's Voice"
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I'm beginning to get the feeling that a group of Republicans have been told if they play nice they will be taken care of once the Democrats regain permanent control of the Government. If they don't play nice, they will be remembered. I don't believe the Democrats intents to lose ever again.
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I'm beginning to get the feeling that a group of Republicans have been told if they play nice they will be taken care of once the Democrats regain permanent control of the Government. If they don't play nice, they will be remembered. I don't believe the Democrats intents to lose ever again.
Sounds like domestic violence victims.
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I'm beginning to get the feeling that a group of Republicans have been told if they play nice they will be taken care of once the Democrats regain permanent control of the Government. If they don't play nice, they will be remembered. I don't believe the Democrats intents to lose ever again.
This is what I think, also same with SCOTUS.
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The Supreme Court has become a joke
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"His Master's Voice"
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New Boss Same As The Old Boss
The Who
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WTF!
Republicans Have a Replacement for George Santos—and She’s a Doozy
https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-replacement-george-santos-she-200715435.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
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WTF!
Republicans Have a Replacement for George Santos—and She’s a Doozy
https://news.yahoo.com/republicans-replacement-george-santos-she-200715435.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall
And a democrat. You just can't make this shit up.
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And a democrat. You just can't make this shit up.
You mean she'll run against a Democrat, right? She's - wow. And IDF paratrooper, mom to SEVEN kids?? Just got into politics? I guess she's been busy.
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You mean she'll run against a Democrat, right? She's - wow. And IDF paratrooper, mom to SEVEN kids?? Just got into politics? I guess she's been busy.
No, she is a registered democrat. Chosen by the republicans. George Santos had a 100% conservative voting record, and the republicans kicked him out.
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No, she is a registered democrat. Chosen by the republicans. George Santos had a 100% conservative voting record, and the republicans kicked him out.
A registered Democrat but serves as a Republican? What the actual fuck?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazi_Melesa_Pilip
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And a democrat. You just can't make this shit up.
Trump was once registered in what other party than the Republican party?
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Trump was once registered in what other party than the Republican party?
As was Ronald Reagan, and a host of others.
But none of them were registered in the other party when they were running as a republican.
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Trump was once registered in what other party than the Republican party?
So what is your point, other than your usual pretend superiority complex?
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As was Ronald Reagan, and a host of others.
But none of them were registered in the other party when they were running as a republican.
The New Republic is not the best choice for unbiased reporting. She may have registered Democrat shortly after becoming a citizen but she clearly has been a Republican during her short public career. She even campaigned heavily for Santos, doing a lot of door-to-door work. She later felt betrayed by his lies.
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There are times I’ve been a registered Democrat when I was not at all a Democrat. It was to vote in their primaries. I wouldn’t dream of running for office as some other party though.
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This article doesn’t say anything about her being a Democrat. I’m having trouble finding information about her position on anything, other than being against anti-semitism. And she helped businesses that were hurt by the pandemic. Her being Jewish might be why she is a registered Democrat. She came to the U.S. and thought that’s what you do if you’re Jewish?
I’d never heard of her before.
https://forward.com/news/478772/this-jewish-woman-of-color-a-former-israeli-paratrooper-just-won-a-seat-in/
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It is funny as hell how left leaning people are willing use a single sound bite as 'proof' of their bullshit agenda, rather than investigate the circumstances.
Lefties are far too evolved to bother with things like actually knowing the facts, when a soundbite headline will suffice.
Useless leftists are just not worth the energy to refute. Their false sense of superiority and ego makes them worthless in the trenches, and untrustworthy the rest of the time.
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This article doesn’t say anything about her being a Democrat. I’m having trouble finding information about her position on anything, other than being against anti-semitism. And she helped businesses that were hurt by the pandemic. Her being Jewish might be why she is a registered Democrat. She came to the U.S. and thought that’s what you do if you’re Jewish?
I’d never heard of her before.
https://forward.com/news/478772/this-jewish-woman-of-color-a-former-israeli-paratrooper-just-won-a-seat-in/
Any way you cut this, it reeks. The republicans rushed to judgement, formed a circular firing squad and got rid of a conservative voting member while holding a slim majority. Now they want to run an unknown who is a registered democrat to replace him.
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Looks like Politico had to dig to discover Pilip was registered as a Democrat:
"But public records uncovered by POLITICO show Pilip has enrolled as a Democrat since 2012."{1}
And she can't be all that bad if the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) says this about her:
"Time and again, the Republican Party desperately tried to expunge their own history of protecting a criminally-indicted liar at the expense of Northeast Queens and Long Island constituents. Now, Long Island Republicans have chosen Mazi Melesa Pilip, serial fraudster George Santos’ close friend and MAGA extremist, to clean up their mess. Pilip and Republicans will be held accountable for their shameless record of propping up corruption and working against the best interest of constituents in New York’s Third Congressional District." {2}
The Times of Israel did a long article on her back in January that gives her perspective. {3}
{1} https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2023/12/06/a-problem-with-a-possible-santos-successor-00130244 (https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2023/12/06/a-problem-with-a-possible-santos-successor-00130244)
{2} https://dccc.org/the-case-against-mazi-melesa-pilip/ (https://dccc.org/the-case-against-mazi-melesa-pilip/)
{3} https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-santos-pressed-to-resign-black-jewish-gop-lawmaker-in-ny-emerges-as-contender/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-santos-pressed-to-resign-black-jewish-gop-lawmaker-in-ny-emerges-as-contender/)
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Looks like Politico had to dig to discover Pilip was registered as a Democrat:
"But public records uncovered by POLITICO show Pilip has enrolled as a Democrat since 2012."{1}
And she can't be all that bad if the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) says this about her:
"Time and again, the Republican Party desperately tried to expunge their own history of protecting a criminally-indicted liar at the expense of Northeast Queens and Long Island constituents. Now, Long Island Republicans have chosen Mazi Melesa Pilip, serial fraudster George Santos’ close friend and MAGA extremist, to clean up their mess. Pilip and Republicans will be held accountable for their shameless record of propping up corruption and working against the best interest of constituents in New York’s Third Congressional District." {2}
The Times of Israel did a long article on her back in January that gives her perspective. {3}
{1} https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2023/12/06/a-problem-with-a-possible-santos-successor-00130244 (https://www.politico.com/newsletters/new-york-playbook/2023/12/06/a-problem-with-a-possible-santos-successor-00130244)
{2} https://dccc.org/the-case-against-mazi-melesa-pilip/ (https://dccc.org/the-case-against-mazi-melesa-pilip/)
{3} https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-santos-pressed-to-resign-black-jewish-gop-lawmaker-in-ny-emerges-as-contender/ (https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-santos-pressed-to-resign-black-jewish-gop-lawmaker-in-ny-emerges-as-contender/)
Time will tell. So far the republican track record isn't so good.
Fact is the republicans threw out a member who had a very conservative voting record instead of letting the voters make that decision next November. They also shorted themselves a valuable vote. The successor may lean towards the RINO Caucus which will hurt them more.
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We should all rush out and accept such austere and unbiased reporting as the comrades at the democrat congressional camapign commitee and poliico.
After all, they brought us the truth about russia, russia, russia...
Nothing could be better than allowing those fucking communists to pick our leaders.
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They also shorted themselves a valuable vote. The successor may lean towards the RINO Caucus which will hurt them more.
Maybe that was their goal.
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Maybe that was their goal.
With Paul Ryan slithering in the background, perhaps.
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We should all rush out and accept such austere and unbiased reporting as the comrades at the democrat congressional camapign commitee and poliico.
After all, they brought us the truth about russia, russia, russia...
Nothing could be better than allowing those fucking communists to pick our leaders.
Russia, Russia, Russia - lies
Covid - lies
Stolen election - lies
EVs - lies
Insurrection - lies
Ukraine - lies
Hamas - lies
Open Borders - lies
Is EVERYTHING these days a LIE? YES!!!
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Russia, Russia, Russia - lies
Covid - lies
Stolen election - lies
EVs - lies
Insurrection - lies
Ukraine - lies
Hamas - lies
Open Borders - lies
Is EVERYTHING these days a LIE? YES!!!
And why not? There is no penalty for a lie in the MSM. Even a knowing lie. Let the proletariat go crazy over the latest lie. As soon as it dies down generate another lie, and publish way way buried in the pages an "oops, sorry we were wrong". Or not.
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And why not? There is no penalty for a lie in the MSM. Even a knowing lie. Let the proletariat go crazy over the latest lie. As soon as it dies down generate another lie, and publish way way buried in the pages an "oops, sorry we were wrong". Or not.
That's why I don't watch, listen, nor read any Media any longer. None.
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So Mayorkas is up for impeachment, he has nothing to worry about. The RINO Caucus will bring that to a halt.
The Biden Impeachment Inquiry? It will continue to be slow walked, again, the RINO Caucus controls that as well.
And Speaker Johnson has cut yet another deal with the democrats to continue government funding. All of the WH programs remain fully funded, and the DoJ remains fully funded to continue their witch hunts and voter intimidation.
But hey, the republicans managed to get a photo op at the border. Nothing was accomplished, but they got their sound bites and pictures.
Ain't it great when republicans control congress? ::)
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Your periodic reminder from me that the R party is useless and should be thrown out like the smelly garbage it is. No hope of cleaning it up. Trump needs to start a new party. Change my mind.
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Your periodic reminder from me that the R party is useless and should be thrown out like the smelly garbage it is. No hope of cleaning it up. Trump needs to start a new party.
If the Republican party is thrown out and Trump starts a new party,
Who will fill that party?
I'm assuming what you call RINOs would not be invited because if they were, then Trump's party would be the same as the R party is now. And if RINOs are NOT included in the new party, then the party will be so small as to be irrelevant.
I doubt that is possible.
Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Not that the R party qualifies as good, but it is better than the D party.
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Don't let perfect be the enemy of good. Not that the R party qualifies as good, but it is better than the D party.
If better means more losing, and more backing of democrat policies, then I really can't see the difference. Republicans would rather be the minority party, they keep proving it over and over.
In over one year of a republican controlled house, they have nothing to show for it. And they are on track to lose congress once again.
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Your periodic reminder from me that the R party is useless and should be thrown out like the smelly garbage it is. No hope of cleaning it up. Trump needs to start a new party. Change my mind.
It would be better to take over the R party from within. Starting a new party would split the R vote leaving the Democrats to win every time.
The Democrat party was taken over by the far left but unlike the Republicans, moderate Dems allowed it, and the party sticks together whereas the Republicans are split between RINO and MAGA with the RINO part sabotaging the MAGA part. This is the only reason it’s been such an uphill battle getting wins.
It might be hopeless getting the RINOs to see the light and so starting a new party might be the only option but there is no way they could win anything unless they take a substantial number of Democrat voters as well as populist Republicans. But the American culture is so split I don’t see that happening any time soon.
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#SpeakerJohnsonGrowAPair
My latest X hashtag
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Johnson can't wait to hand over the gavel to Hakeem Jeffries.
And just wait till Jeffries becomes speaker. This guy is dumb as a bagful of hammers, but he'll do whatever his masters instruct him to do. And his democrats will fall into line lock step.
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I cannot fathom ANY argument for keeping the R party.
Locally and nationally, they are a complete FAILURE and in fact HARM the country we love so much.
They endlessly beg for money and “poll” you on issues that “most matter” to you, which they then proceed to utterly ignore. They whine about “fighting” Democrats and outline the threats Dems pose yet do nothing to stop them. They pipe up with the occasional “introduction” (rarely passage) of bills we might like so we’ll send them more money. They fail to unite behind one true conservative candidate, remaining divided against themselves. And on and on.
As far as I can see, they do nothing BUT grift, cheat us, and line their own pocketbooks AND provide themselves with endless perks, such as personal security, housing, blah blah.
And the most galling thing is that they WORK ACTIVELY AGAINST the will of their own base when it comes to supporting candidates, conducting debates, and standing up for the Constitution.
This is NOT a party worth saving. I’m surprised more Dems don’t say the same thing about THEIR party, but why should they bother? The Rs pose no risk to them whatsoever.
We need a party that will have Dems shitting their pants. Change my mind.
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I cannot fathom ANY argument for keeping the R party.
Locally and nationally, they are a complete FAILURE and in fact HARM the country we love so much.
But we need to keep the Dem party because they cause no harm, right?
I guess the difference is that the Dems are successful at it.
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I cannot fathom ANY argument for keeping the R party.
Locally and nationally, they are a complete FAILURE and in fact HARM the country we love so much.
They endlessly beg for money and “poll” you on issues that “most matter” to you, which they then proceed to utterly ignore. They whine about “fighting” Democrats and outline the threats Dems pose yet do nothing to stop them. They pipe up with the occasional “introduction” (rarely passage) of bills we might like so we’ll send them more money. They fail to unite behind one true conservative candidate, remaining divided against themselves. And on and on.
As far as I can see, they do nothing BUT grift, cheat us, and line their own pocketbooks AND provide themselves with endless perks, such as personal security, housing, blah blah.
And the most galling thing is that they WORK ACTIVELY AGAINST the will of their own base when it comes to supporting candidates, conducting debates, and standing up for the Constitution.
This is NOT a party worth saving. I’m surprised more Dems don’t say the same thing about THEIR party, but why should they bother? The Rs pose no risk to them whatsoever.
We need a party that will have Dems shitting their pants. Change my mind.
I don't disagree at all, and particularly that some Dems feel the same about their party. A large majority of Americans on both the left and the right believe the political class of both parties are power mongering grifters. But we are trapped in the two party system. It is too ossified. We have had some interesting third party challengers but they go nowhere, other than to siphon votes off one or the other of the two mains.
The two party system is here to stay unless some explosive event forces a major upheaval. You favor Trump starting a third party but how exactly would you strategize so that it could win elections? And not just end up like Ross Perot or RFK Jr. (presumably he won't win this fall).
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But we need to keep the Dem party because they cause no harm, right?
I guess the difference is that the Dems are successful at it.
I stated that the Dems should turn on their party as well. They’re the force we need balls to fight. Rs have none. Even darling DeSantis, when asked what he would have done after the 2020 election, said that he would have won so it wouldn’t have happened. What a galling evasion.
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I stated that the Dems should turn on their party as well. They’re the force we need balls to fight. Rs have none. Even darling DeSantis, when asked what he would have done after the 2020 election, said that he would have won so it wouldn’t have happened. What a galling evasion.
Becky, I actually agree with you about the dysfunctional Republican party, and that something needs to be done about it.
But disbanding it and starting a new TRUMP party will not accomplish anything except create a losing party that you can be proud of.
In order for Trump to be successful he needs to fashion a plan that will get a majority of Americans on his side. But he doesn't seem to know how to do that. It is his way or the highway. And even if his way is the right way that counts for nothing if he can't get that majority on his side.
And wishing that the Dems would turn on their own party is really being in denial about the state of the other side. They LIKE their party.
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I don't disagree at all, and particularly that some Dems feel the same about their party. A large majority of Americans on both the left and the right believe the political class of both parties are power mongering grifters. But we are trapped in the two party system. It is too ossified. We have had some interesting third party challengers but they go nowhere, other than to siphon votes off one or the other of the two mains.
The two party system is here to stay unless some explosive event forces a major upheaval. You favor Trump starting a third party but how exactly would you strategize so that it could win elections? And not just end up like Ross Perot or RFK Jr. (presumably he won't win this fall).
You say “trapped” and “ossified.” These are NOT reasons to hang on to a sinking, flaming ship. I’m NOT talking third party. I’m talking get organized, label it, flood the country with the truth, and make the Rs so irrelevant they disappear. Who would cling to them? Every current R politician who believes in our country and has cojones (few, I admit) would go right over, INSTANTLY revealing the cockroach, ticket-taking Rs that are dragging us all down. Put them in the crosshairs.
I’d be okay with someone other than Trump BUT they would have to put the country, the people, and election security as their PLATFORM and then stick by it. THAT what Trump does and THAT is why his numbers are so high. You of all people should know that putting faith solely in “winning elections” is naive. Election fraud on the grand scale we saw in 2020 has to be exposed and pointed out 24/7 until people get it. Rs aren’t doing that … NEVER does their “list of major issues” on their begging letters include ELECTION SECURITY. Never.
We sit here and moan about how the Dem/global cabal will once again lever in their preferred candidate at the last minute and cheat them in. You think the Rs will lift a finger to stop it? NO. Look at the history of Costa Rica. They had a corrupt party that cheated their slime presidential candidate in, and a group of merely 700 Costa Ricans took over the government and restored the winner to the presidency.
I refuse to accept the ossified and to feel trapped. No.
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Becky, I actually agree with you about the dysfunctional Republican party, and that something needs to be done about it.
But disbanding it and starting a new TRUMP party will not accomplish anything except create a losing party that you can be proud of.
In order for Trump to be successful he needs to fashion a plan that will get a majority of Americans on his side. But he doesn't seem to know how to do that. It is his way or the highway. And even if his way is the right way that counts for nothing if he can't get that majority on his side.
And wishing that the Dems would turn on their own party is really being in denial about the state of the other side. They LIKE their party.
I didn’t say “a Trump party” and I didn’t “wish” the Dems would turn against their party. I said they “should.” Big difference. The Dems are destroying the country and the Rs are allowing it.
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I don't disagree at all, and particularly that some Dems feel the same about their party. A large majority of Americans on both the left and the right believe the political class of both parties are power mongering grifters.
I don't see that at all.
Yes, many on the left are beginning to admit that Biden may be too old for another term, but even they won't admit that he is a doddering old man that has to be led off the podium by the hand by his wife before he gets a chance to answer questions off script.
They approve of all the woke bullshit and all of the "free stuff" promises and allowing gazillions of illegals into Texas, Florida and Arizona. (Well, they do get pissed when Tx, FL and AZ ship a few hundred illegals to THEIR sanctuary cities).
In fact, they LIKE that shit and see no reason to disband or change. And they know that that is the way to build a voting base. Just like when Lyndon said "We'll have them nggrs voting Democrat for the next 100 years. And he was right.
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Becky, it's hard to compare the U.S. to Costa Rica or any small country, they are all like one of our states which makes it possible to affect change. Argentina would be the latest example of that or even Italy. Certainly you have a better chance of flipping a states Governor.
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Becky, I actually agree with you about the dysfunctional Republican party, and that something needs to be done about it.
But disbanding it and starting a new TRUMP party will not accomplish anything except create a losing party that you can be proud of.
In order for Trump to be successful he needs to fashion a plan that will get a majority of Americans on his side. But he doesn't seem to know how to do that. It is his way or the highway. And even if his way is the right way that counts for nothing if he can't get that majority on his side.
And wishing that the Dems would turn on their own party is really being in denial about the state of the other side. They LIKE their party.
That is an excellent argument for standing by and letting the communists finally destroy anything good about America.
Stand down.
Sit quietly.
Don’t argue too loud, or the party will hand you your head.
Fuck that shit.
Bring on a third party and let’s get this ballot box revolution going.
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That is an excellent argument for standing by and letting the communists finally destroy anything good about America.
Stand down.
Sit quietly.
Don’t argue too loud, or the party will hand you your head.
Fuck that shit.
Bring on a third party and let’s get this ballot box revolution going.
I didn't give an argument for standing down.
I pointed out why Becky's solution wouldn't have any positive effect.
It might be possible for a 3rd party to adopt the best features of both the major parties and succeed, but if they were to succeed it would be because they attract more voters, NOT because they kick out everyone they have a disagreement with.
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We need a party that will have Dems shitting their pants. Change my mind.
What's the name of the party of the new President of Argentina? I wonder if a party like that exists in the US?
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It would be better to take over the R party from within. Starting a new party would split the R vote leaving the Democrats to win every time.
The Democrat party was taken over by the far left but unlike the Republicans, moderate Dems allowed it, and the party sticks together whereas the Republicans are split between RINO and MAGA with the RINO part sabotaging the MAGA part. This is the only reason it’s been such an uphill battle getting wins.
It might be hopeless getting the RINOs to see the light and so starting a new party might be the only option but there is no way they could win anything unless they take a substantial number of Democrat voters as well as populist Republicans. But the American culture is so split I don’t see that happening any time soon.
Your not going to get the RINOs (Establishment Republicans) off the Democrat controlled government gravy train. It's too big, powerful and lucrative.
Stick a fork in it. This territory is DONE as a free country.
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You say “trapped” and “ossified.” These are NOT reasons to hang on to a sinking, flaming ship. I’m NOT talking third party. I’m talking get organized, label it, flood the country with the truth, and make the Rs so irrelevant they disappear. Who would cling to them? Every current R politician who believes in our country and has cojones (few, I admit) would go right over, INSTANTLY revealing the cockroach, ticket-taking Rs that are dragging us all down. Put them in the crosshairs.
I’d be okay with someone other than Trump BUT they would have to put the country, the people, and election security as their PLATFORM and then stick by it. THAT what Trump does and THAT is why his numbers are so high. You of all people should know that putting faith solely in “winning elections” is naive. Election fraud on the grand scale we saw in 2020 has to be exposed and pointed out 24/7 until people get it. Rs aren’t doing that … NEVER does their “list of major issues” on their begging letters include ELECTION SECURITY. Never.
We sit here and moan about how the Dem/global cabal will once again lever in their preferred candidate at the last minute and cheat them in. You think the Rs will lift a finger to stop it? NO. Look at the history of Costa Rica. They had a corrupt party that cheated their slime presidential candidate in, and a group of merely 700 Costa Ricans took over the government and restored the winner to the presidency.
I refuse to accept the ossified and to feel trapped. No.
Okay so you answered my question about strategy. Get organized, flood the country with the truth, etc. For that you have to fight censorship. This the very reason we have a first amendment. There is hope on that front with Elon and other alternative media.
I am not putting my faith solely in elections. But elections are still how we gain power in the U.S. until you’re talking about an armed coup. I’m not there yet. I’m aware of election fraud. Instead of having “no faith” in elections we need to fight to expose the fraud.
There is no other alternative than winning elections short of violent insurrection and most Americans stick to the two main parties. So there you have it: you’re stuck with a D or an R. Your organizational push to educate the public in your platform of America first would have to convince enough voters to abandon the two parties, to get to 270 Electoral College votes.
Maybe you and I aren’t ossified but the average rank and file voter certainly is.
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Your not going to get the RINOs (Establishment Republicans) off the Democrat controlled government gravy train. It's too big, powerful and lucrative.
Stick a fork in it. This territory is DONE as a free country.
Unfortunately, I believe you may be right. I see no way to turn it around at this point. It's taken them decades, but they've just about reached their goal.
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Unfortunately, I believe you may be right. I see no way to turn it around at this point. It's taken them decades, but they've just about reached their goal.
Governments are cyclic. Lord, Styx outlined it in plain English so very well yesterday or the day before. I have to find that video dad gum it. I’m so busy today. Funeral is this weekend. I probably won’t get around to it.
Found it! It was Plato he was channeling.
Stage 1: Meritocracy
Stage 2: Direct democracy
Stage 3: Oligarchy
Stage 4: Tyranny
Styx says a Republic doesn’t stop this process but it constrains it.
https://rumble.com/v45ti5l-jean-shaheens-epic-misquote-on-twitter-and-subsequent-coverup-attempt.html
Watch it. Come on, it’s only 8 minutes.
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I do wonder what the potential population of a third party would be. Among we the people, not all Republicans are RINOs or far far right nutcases. Likewise, not all democrats are DINOs or far far left nutcases. I believe that the vast majority of we the people are middle of the road, generally leaning fiscally conservative and leaning socially liberal. They are forced into the two-party system. But if there was a real middle third party that had middle party values, I think that things would eventually settle into 25% Republican, 25% democrat, and 50% middle. It could be that the middle is actually RINO/DINO.
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Lose the lunatic fringe from the left and the pussy brigade from the right and you have the 50% that actually matter.
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Lose the lunatic fringe from the left and the pussy brigade from the right and you have the 50% that actually matter.
Yep. Now if they could only rally around a single candidate we'd have a viable and powerful third party. Can Trump be a voice for them? Him as a third-party candidate would attract more votes than any other third-party candidate in recent history. The problem is that at this point he'd get them mostly from Republicans. He'd get a decent number of middle-democrats. But the democrat machine is just too powerful.
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It's not the presidency that matters. It's congress.
We watched Trump take office with a republican house and senate. They fought him every step of the way. Does anyone believe that the current house and senate would be any different?
We can't get rid of the scum in these offices. Our founding fathers never envisioned congress being a career job, or even senators being selected via popular vote. Yet here we are, and with these leeches in office with no fear of the voter, they continue to pass bills and enrich themselves at our expense.
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I do wonder what the potential population of a third party would be. Among we the people, not all Republicans are RINOs or far far right nutcases. Likewise, not all democrats are DINOs or far far left nutcases. I believe that the vast majority of we the people are middle of the road, generally leaning fiscally conservative and leaning socially liberal. They are forced into the two-party system. But if there was a real middle third party that had middle party values, I think that things would eventually settle into 25% Republican, 25% democrat, and 50% middle. It could be that the middle is actually RINO/DINO.
In a normal presidential election, it is indeed the middle that is larger and thus would carry the vote.
Again, I’m saying it doesn’t have to be Trump but his is the only message that cuts to the truth. But for people to believe it, much more suffering, sadly, will be required to wake them up. Anybody following the silence about Lloyd Austin? He’s hospitalized and no one in authority seems to want to talk about it. Secretary of Defense is the number two nuclear guy after Resident Biden. Number two, a woman, at present is vacationing in Puerto Rico and running the United States military from her hotel room. Or is she? Who’s in charge? Will it take enemy action as we get weaker and weaker to wake people up? Or merely economic suffering and shortages?
The message:
https://x.com/FreyjaTarte/status/1742154975138988422?s=20
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Worth a watch, toward the end they touch on just what we're discussing here.
https://rumble.com/v459sz3-s2e5-true-the-vote-victory-lap.html
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In a normal presidential election, it is indeed the middle that is larger and thus would carry the vote.
Again, I’m saying it doesn’t have to be Trump but his is the only message that cuts to the truth. But for people to believe it, much more suffering, sadly, will be required to wake them up. Anybody following the silence about Lloyd Austin? He’s hospitalized and no one in authority seems to want to talk about it. Secretary of Defense is the number two nuclear guy after Resident Biden. Number two, a woman, at present is vacationing in Puerto Rico and running the United States military from her hotel room. Or is she? Who’s in charge? Will it take enemy action as we get weaker and weaker to wake people up? Or merely economic suffering and shortages?
The message:
https://x.com/FreyjaTarte/status/1742154975138988422?s=20
Yes. To the bold part, either, or.
People will not do a thing to change the status quo until they face starvation. At that point they’ll be just as likely to cry for a full on communist government to feed them as they will be to fight to be freed from government’s economic shackles.
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I still stand by the solution as secession, whereas the free red states simply break away from the blue shitholes and the worthless fedgov inside the beltway.
No civil war, as the blue shitholes have neither the resources or the will to fight anyone. Cut away the financial resources from them and they fail immediately.
Then begins the problem of the blue shithole refugees. They see prosperity in the free red states and want to move there, but like we've seen from California, they'll want to bring their ideology with them.
Ripping the band aid off will be painful. But I do believe there are enough patriots living in the free states that know what must be done.
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Yes. To the bold part, either, or.
People will not do a thing to change the status quo until they face starvation. At that point they’ll be just as likely to cry for a full on communist government to feed them as they will be to fight to be freed from government’s economic shackles.
I truly wish people weren't quite so stupid.
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I truly wish people weren't quite so stupid.
The founding fathers knew people were stupid which is why they specifically did NOT want a straight democracy.
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The founding fathers knew people were stupid which is why they specifically did NOT want a straight democracy.
It really sucks that if you get rid of the half of the country that is below average, you'd STILL have half the country below average.
The more I read of what the Founding Fathers were thinking as they drew up the Constitution and Amendments, the more I'm astounded at their wisdom and far-sightedness. So many things could have gone wrong, yet it's still the best form of government. I hope that it survives this year.
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It really sucks that if you get rid of the half of the country that is below average, you'd STILL have half the country below average.
The more I read of what the Founding Fathers were thinking as they drew up the Constitution and Amendments, the more I'm astounded at their wisdom and far-sightedness. So many things could have gone wrong, yet it's still the best form of government. I hope that it survives this year.
Some would argue, but it is the best, I agree. The founding fathers built it on the twin pillars of man: nobility and depravity. And they emphasized the importance of eternal vigilance.
“The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."
We have not been vigilant, and here we are.
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Some would argue, but it is the best, I agree. The founding fathers built it on the twin pillars of man: nobility and depravity. And they emphasized the importance of eternal vigilance.
“The condition upon which God hath given liberty to man is eternal vigilance; which condition if he break, servitude is at once the consequence of his crime and the punishment of his guilt."
We have not been vigilant, and here we are.
No we haven't. Many have become lazy and entitled. Sad.
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I still stand by the solution as secession, whereas the free red states simply break away from the blue shitholes and the worthless fedgov inside the beltway.
No civil war, as the blue shitholes have neither the resources or the will to fight anyone. Cut away the financial resources from them and they fail immediately.
Then begins the problem of the blue shithole refugees. They see prosperity in the free red states and want to move there, but like we've seen from California, they'll want to bring their ideology with them.
Ripping the band aid off will be painful. But I do believe there are enough patriots living in the free states that know what must be done.
Let's take Texas as an example and they secede, now what do you do with the major metroplexes that make up very large portions of the population?
I think it may not be as easy as you make it sound.
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Let's take Texas as an example and they secede, now what do you do with the major metroplexes that make up very large portions of the population?
I think it may not be as easy as you make it sound.
I never stated it would be easy, or without problems.
But those municipalities fall within the state, and in the example of Texas, the overall population wants freedom over tyranny. The liberals can either keep quiet and enjoy the benefits of freedom or try to stage riots to demand to be a part of the blue shit holes.
Texas has dealt with trouble makers before.
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The blue state parasites will soon discover that things are not as they were and can either head to a shit hole democrat communist state, or suck it up and live.
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The blue state parasites will soon discover that things are not as they were and can either head to a shit hole democrat communist state, or suck it up and live.
We've got tons of people flocking here from fucking Long Island, NYC, New Jersey and New England. It's destroying a once beautiful and solidly Red County. I need to move. It's Democrat land now.
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We've got tons of people flocking here from fucking Long Island, NYC, New Jersey and New England. It's destroying a once beautiful and solidly Red County. I need to move. It's Democrat land now.
Styx says the same thing about parts of Vermont.
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Styx says the same thing about parts of Vermont.
These people SUCK.
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More of yet another "republican" sticking up our asses. This time it's Sen Lankford (RINO-OK)
https://twitter.com/RepMattGaetz/status/1746199000116568182
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Ronna Botox. Clueless
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Another CR passed. No action on the border. Hunter Biden defies a congressional subpoena. The FJB Regime remains fully funded.
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Why would we support a party that doesn’t stand up and protect America from invasion and direct its resources to election security and serving the American people? No sign of the RNC ship pivoting toward competency.
https://twitter.com/jellen805/status/1752886945632637025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752886945632637025%7Ctwgr%5E5d0aee0eb7cf1b4a520d00d740a59b0b63898d76%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fconservativepoliticalforum.com%2Fpolitical-discussion-and-debate%2Finsane-rnc-spending%2F
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Ronna Botox is going to pop her golden parachute, go grift elsewhere.
https://archive.is/CmFlo
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So good to see the NY slimes uprising every opportunity to attack President Trump.
The incompetent, sleazy, rona Botox will have to ride off into the progressive sunset and get her corrupt bribes elsewhere, I guess. I’d imagine uncle mittens will help her score.
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Way to go GOP!
You got the most conservative voting member expelled from congress, and now it's almost certain he will be replaced with a democrat.
You could have just let his constituents decide on him this November, but you had to make a statement.
Fucking Morons.
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Way to go GOP!
You got the most conservative voting member expelled from congress, and now it's almost certain he will be replaced with a democrat.
You could have just let his constituents decide on him this November, but you had to make a statement.
Fucking Morons.
It's like they purposely sabotage themselves, then say, "hey, it's not our fault!!" Like children would do.
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Another week has passed. FJB has yet to be impeached. The senate has yet to try Mayorkas. The border still remains open.
And the republican led congress just gave out another windfall amount of money for a democrat spending bill with no benefits for decreasing spending, border security or any conservative causes.
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And the republican led congress
Damn, I missed when they took over.
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Damn, I missed when they took over.
So did most people. Republicans like to grandstand and make all sorts of "When we get the majority we will do xxxxxxx", then when they finally get it, they do nothing.
Republicans have had a dismal failures of Speakers. The last good republican Speaker was Newt Gingrich, 25 years ago.
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Another week has passed. FJB has yet to be impeached. The senate has yet to try Mayorkas. The border still remains open.
And the republican led congress just gave out another windfall amount of money for a democrat spending bill with no benefits for decreasing spending, border security or any conservative causes.
I'm old enough to remeber when this actually happened:
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.
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Uniparty strikes again!!!
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Uniparty strikes again!!!
That’s all we have left. Democrat Communist and their RINO sympathizers form the core of the UniParty.
They are desperate for one party rule.
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I feel this points out the need to get more Rs elected to Congress.
There were 83 Rs that opposed this bill and just 2 Ds opposed.
Of the 132 Rs that supported the bill, they kind of had their backs up against a wall. It was either vote yes or allow another shutdown, which the Rs always get blamed for.
If they had a larger majority, they could force a better bill through without having to cave. The majority would have to be big enough to overcome some of those Rs that really are just as bad as the Ds. But I don't think you can say all of the Rs are as bad as the Ds. It is critical that we turn a few D seats into R seats or President Trump will fail just as badly as anyone.
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Republicans have never understood the concept of working together for a common goal. They constantly form circular firing squads and defeat themselves.
Elect more republicans? They still don’t understand the difference between votes and ballots. Republicans want to focus on 30,000 feet issues that most Americans aren’t concerned with. And republicans haven’t learned how to take the other sides game book and use it against them.
What republicans are very good and effective with is writing and giving concession speeches.
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Is there something wrong with getting blamed for shutting down the government?
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Is there something wrong with getting blamed for shutting down the government?
Republicans don't know how to fight back. If they did, they would show that a government shutdown is not really a shutdown. They would show that essential services remain, while the pork laced spending gets shut down. And a majority of Americans would not complain.
But it takes a will to fight. Republicans like to get in a corner, suck their thumbs in a fetal position.
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Apparently Lara Trump is now co-chair of the RNC. Says election integrity will be their priority.
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Is there something wrong with getting blamed for shutting down the government?
What they should do is shut down the gov’t and brag about how the shut down benefits people instead of the swamp.
Make it a matter of pride that they stood in the way of bribes, crimes, and other corruption being committed by the communist democrat party.
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What they should do is shut down the gov’t and brag about how the shut down benefits people instead of the swamp.
Make it a matter of pride that they stood in the way of bribes, crimes, and other misread being committed by the communist democrat party.
While that's true, the optics are very different. The democrats put huge walls around the OUTDOOR Lincoln Memorial and other monuments then show granny crying that she can't show her grand children democracy. The Republicans always lose on a shutdown. FJB blames the Republicans for the failure of all bills, yet it's always the democrats putting forth shitty bills. The hidden landmines always explode: Republicans refuse to pay for wheelchairs for veterans buried in the billions for illegals bill.
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It's Friday March 22cd, 2024.
The border is still open. The republicans still can't bring themselves to impeach Biden.
And Speaker Johnson is still just McCarthy Lite.
And now this: https://twitter.com/JesseBWatters/status/1770977170753479165
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That's why I keep saying the Establishment Republicans are complicit in this entire mess. All of it.
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Come November the democrat communist will take back the House, and we'll have the BHO wannabe Hakeem Jeffries as Speaker.
The Senate will remain under the communist as well, and more than likely we will have a communist president. We are entering the era of the one party rule and heading down the road of Venezuela.
The democrat communist are also looking at more and more creative ways to separate citizens from their money. FJB's "wealth tax" will end up on the middle class and we'll see home owners are suddenly "wealthy" as well as people with retirement accounts.
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So the fucking deep state RINO Mike Gallahger is resigning from congress, but is delaying his exit until it's too late for a special election. The deep state is ensuring that if Trump is elected he will not have a house majority nor a senate majority.
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So the fucking deep state RINO Mike Gallahger is resigning from congress, but is delaying his exit until it's too late for a special election. The deep state is ensuring that if Trump is elected he will not have a house majority nor a senate majority.
First thoughts. Bribery or threat? Who else is being bribed or threatened? Could the deep state be any more obvious about its intentions? Are more and more people seeing this for what it is?
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The republicans are perfect for this. When not cowering in the corner sucking their thumbs, the others are happily being subservient for their democrat colleagues.
The "republican" House has been an utter failure, once again. Say hello to Speaker Jeffries soon.
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With johnson facing a motion to vacate, speaker jeffries is probably closer then November.
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So the chatter inside the beltway is the dims think they can retake the Speakership before November. Then, they will pass a bill making anyone who is an "insurrectionist" unable to run for President (Trump).
Except their plan is full of flaws. First, the constitution already states the requirements for President. Second, the 14th Amendment already discusses Insurrection and who could be charged and how.
Jamie Ratskin is pushing this nonsense. If they do this, it will go straight to the SC and get tossed.
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So the chatter inside the beltway is the dims think they can retake the Speakership before November. Then, they will pass a bill making anyone who is an "insurrectionist" unable to run for President (Trump).
Except their plan is full of flaws. First, the constitution already states the requirements for President. Second, the 14th Amendment already discusses Insurrection and who could be charged and how.
Jamie Ratskin is pushing this nonsense. If they do this, it will go straight to the SC and get tossed.
Constitution states "...no ex post facto law shall be passed..." so the idea is DOA.
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Constitution states "...no ex post facto law shall be passed..." so the idea is DOA.
The constitution also says on the second amendment “shall not be infringed”.
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The constitution also says on the second amendment “shall not be infringed”.
Courts have abused the Constitution for decades and longer. Local and State governments have been able to pass laws blatantly violating the Constitution yet courts let them stand.
The 2A is a great example. It's maddening and has led to our downfall as a country. Yet 23 states now have Constitutional Carry for firearms.
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How about tagging all the cows and allowing mRna vaccines for the cows.
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Another week has gone by, it's now April.
The border is still wide open. The Strategic Petroleum Reserve is down to two weeks and no plans to replenish. The Regime goes unchecked while using federal agencies to make laws to circumvent congress.
And Speaker Johnson is trying to get yet another Ukraine aid package passed.
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Another week has ended.
The border is still open.
Congress is still trying to borrow more money to give away to Ukraine.
The Uniparty, with help of Speaker Johnson, has passed the reauthorization of 702 so the government can continue spying on Americans in defiance of our constitution.
Congress still can't impeach FJB.
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Additional. Speaker Johnson introduces the SAVE Act that will require voters to be US citizens to vote in a federal election.
It's April 2024. The election is about 7 months away, and the house doesn't have the votes, neither does the senate. Totally symbolic and will die.
More republican "let's introduce a bill that will go nowhere to make it look like we are doing something".
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Additional. Speaker Johnson introduces the SAVE Act that will require voters to be US citizens to vote in a federal election.
It's April 2024. The election is about 7 months away, and the house doesn't have the votes, neither does the senate. Totally symbolic and will die.
More republican "let's introduce a bill that will go nowhere to make it look like we are doing something".
Retouch defines the current GOP. The Party of all talk no action.
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This is exactly how I feel:
https://x.com/stevedeaceshow/status/1786009042868994061?s=46
They’ve done nothing on any meaningful issue for us here at home all year. Instead they’ve taken care of foreign countries better than our own, renewed the very corrupt program used to spy on Trump and launch a three-year de facto coup against his presidency (with his passive aggressive blessing no less), argued with their own base in favor of killing more babies, and now just got in the middle of an internecine feud threatening the Democrat coalition — to pass a federal blasphemy law that will most assuredly be used by swamp NGOs to target their own Christian base later.
It’s May 2. I’m done saying this really is the most important election of my lifetime this time. It should be, but their collective behavior says otherwise. If I claim this again before something drastic changes, consider this my consent for @DeaceOnline to shoot me in the face with the air gun on set, live on the air.
I’ve lost heart. The only thing this party is collectively good at is breaking the spirit and will of its own base.
I don’t have anymore opinion or analysis or urgency over this election when this is the alternative before us. So unless/until that changes, I’m done messaging the importance of this self-cannibalistic farce. Follow your own conscience and do whatever you think is best with these fools, cowards, and quislings. It’s pretty clear that politically we are (with limited exceptions) on our own anyway.
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There has never been a better time for a quality third party candidate, unbeholden to the swamp to come forward and kick some ass.
I'm hoping RFK Jr can gain enough traction to keep the party of fraud and corruption from stealing our government, again.
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This is exactly how I feel:
https://x.com/stevedeaceshow/status/1786009042868994061?s=46
They’ve done nothing on any meaningful issue for us here at home all year. Instead they’ve taken care of foreign countries better than our own, renewed the very corrupt program used to spy on Trump and launch a three-year de facto coup against his presidency (with his passive aggressive blessing no less), argued with their own base in favor of killing more babies, and now just got in the middle of an internecine feud threatening the Democrat coalition — to pass a federal blasphemy law that will most assuredly be used by swamp NGOs to target their own Christian base later.
It’s May 2. I’m done saying this really is the most important election of my lifetime this time. It should be, but their collective behavior says otherwise. If I claim this again before something drastic changes, consider this my consent for @DeaceOnline to shoot me in the face with the air gun on set, live on the air.
I’ve lost heart. The only thing this party is collectively good at is breaking the spirit and will of its own base.
I don’t have anymore opinion or analysis or urgency over this election when this is the alternative before us. So unless/until that changes, I’m done messaging the importance of this self-cannibalistic farce. Follow your own conscience and do whatever you think is best with these fools, cowards, and quislings. It’s pretty clear that politically we are (with limited exceptions) on our own anyway.
Welcome back Stan.
I think. It sounds like things have you as depressed as I am about the current situation.
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Welcome back Stan.
I think. It sounds like things have you as depressed as I am about the current situation.
Yes, good to hear from you Stan.
For me, I try not to be depressed, but I am… okay I’ll come out and say it: Frightened.
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Recently my "republican" congressman voted to hand Ukraine more money, then voted for the government to spy on me without a warrant. He has lost my vote.
These politicians no longer fear voters, and believe themselves to be anointed and to be in office because the voter is too stupid to know what is good for them.
We are in the age of the UniParty, there are no clear dividing lines between democrat and republican.
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Welcome back Stan.
I think. It sounds like things have you as depressed as I am about the current situation.
Thanks, and yes I am.
The GOP House finally has a bipartisan bill, and it is one that violates the First Amendment and can be used against Christians with equal force.
With friends like Republicans, who needs enemies?
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The renewing of 702 will now give the DOJ authority to spy on us and go after any Conservative backing Trump. Better watch what you say and post.
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For me, I try not to be depressed, but I am… okay I’ll come out and say it: Frightened.
We are headed into the most consequential election of our lives, and US history. There are 538 offices that MUST be cleaned out in order for this country to survive.
Right now the democrat communist with help of the UniParty are planning sweeping changes for 2025, and the top priority will be increasing taxes on the middleclass. Get ready for unrealized gains, a federal property tax and some creative ways for the government to get their hands on retirement accounts. Also look for interesting changes to social security.
The newcomers (illegal invaders) will continue to need medical, housing, education and welfare benefits, and since they are the preferred citizens, government will need more money, lots of it.
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We are headed into the most consequential election of our lives, and US history. There are 538 offices that MUST be cleaned out in order for this country to survive.
I have been hearing that same song for decades now.
But this time I believe it is true.
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I have been hearing that same song for decades now.
But this time I believe it is true.
Yes, this time it’s different, very.
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Recently my "republican" congressman voted to hand Ukraine more money, then voted for the government to spy on me without a warrant. He has lost my vote.
These politicians no longer fear voters, and believe themselves to be anointed and to be in office because the voter is too stupid to know what is good for them.
We are in the age of the UniParty, there are no clear dividing lines between democrat and republican.
I'm done with all of them. We have been taken over by corrupt Royalty. It is time for difficult choices, or for one to just bug out.
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I'm done with all of them. We have been taken over by corrupt Royalty. It is time for difficult choices, or for one to just bug out.
I highly recommend everyone to prepare contingency plans for this fall. If you liked the first 4 years of the Biden Regime, just wait to see what's in store for us if the communist manage to steal another election. We will see the greatest transfer of wealth in history take place just to start, and then watch the constitution evaporate.
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Why don't those who are fighting hardest for a new communist / socialist America realize that they will be the first ones up against the wall when it happens?
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Why don't those who are fighting hardest for a new communist / socialist America realize that they will be the first ones up against the wall when it happens?
Because they don’t know history.
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Why don't those who are fighting hardest for a new communist / socialist America realize that they will be the first ones up against the wall when it happens?
Stupidity is not a requirement to be a communist democrat, but it makes everything easier.
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I highly recommend everyone to prepare contingency plans for this fall. If you liked the first 4 years of the Biden Regime, just wait to see what's in store for us if the communist manage to steal another election. We will see the greatest transfer of wealth in history take place just to start, and then watch the constitution evaporate.
Don't you mean the greatest theft of wealth?
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/developing-milwaukee-election-director-claire-woodall-vogg-terminated/
DEVELOPING: Controversial Milwaukee Election Director Claire Woodall-Vogg Who Personally Attacked The Gateway Pundit Terminated from Position
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/developing-milwaukee-election-director-claire-woodall-vogg-terminated/
But there is no proof of election fraud!
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Anytime they have a hyphenated name, you know they're a crazy eyed far left Feminazi. ::)
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https://babylonbee.com/news/kristi-noem-attends-kentucky-derby-to-see-if-any-horses-need-to-be-put-down
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She really shot herself in the foot.
Maybe she doesn't want to be on the national stage and is okay being part of local politics.
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I'd consult with her to get her back on track.
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To hear Jeffries tell it, the Democrats are already in charge. "Even though we're in the minority, we effectively have been governing as if we were in the majority because we continue to provide a majority of the votes necessary to get things done," he said. "Those are just the facts."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hakeem-jeffries-house-talks-house-divisions-israel-issues-facing-voters-60-minutes/#:~:text=To%20hear%20Jeffries%20tell%20it%2C%20the%20Democrats%20are%20already%20in%20charge.&text=%22Even%20though%20we're%20in,Those%20are%20just%20the%20facts.%22
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She really shot herself in the foot.
Maybe she doesn't want to be on the national stage and is okay being part of local politics.
Yes she did unfortunately. I don't understand the political ineptness and misunderstanding optics in our warped world. She's allowing the Uniparty to win.
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Yes she did unfortunately. I don't understand the political inemntnest and misunderstanding optics in our warped world. She's allowing the Uniparty to win.
That’s what republicans do. They’ve never learned to fight back.
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That’s what republicans do. They’ve never learned to fight back.
Makes me wonder if they are just satisfied to play second fiddle and cash in.
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Makes me wonder if they are just satisfied to play second fiddle and cash in.
Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
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Watching the SOTH smiling about being saved from removal for surrendering to the fucking democrat communist party, made me rethink how I perceive him.
Johnson is just a younger version of cocaine mitchie, not as ascerbic as kevie, and not as criminal as the whore, nancy.
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Watching the SOTH smiling about being saved from removal for surrendering to the fucking democrat communist party, made me rethink how I perceive him.
Johnson is just a younger version of cocaine mitchie, not as ascerbic as kevie, and not as criminal as the whore, nancy.
Its a shame when we have to say that about our top leaders. "They're not as bad as the other guy".
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Makes me wonder if they are just satisfied to play second fiddle and cash in.
Exactly. Go along to get along and get payed off to keep your mouth shut and actions ineffective at best. Trump is their only nemesis. Both parties hate him as he will upset the apple cart of corruption and bribery,