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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on July 21, 2017, 07:18:23 AM

Title: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Lucifer on July 21, 2017, 07:18:23 AM
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/343079-tucker-carlson-trump-attack-on-sessions-a-useless-self

 I disagree with Carlson's analogy.  First of all, I don't agree with hiring "friends".  The problem with this is when they under perform you will be stuck with making some unsavory choices.

 Secondly, I think Sessions was wrong in recusing himself on the Russia collusion investigation. Sessions did that for political reasons for himself with total disregard to the executive branch.

 Trump is sending a message to the Justice Department.  Get your house in order, stop playing politics and get to work.  The Mueller investigation is out of control and violates many laws pertaining to special counsel since Mueller obviously cannot be impartial.  Rosenstein needs to be fired along with any other Obama hold overs. 
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 21, 2017, 10:13:50 AM
I suspect at some point Sessions will hear, "You're Fired".
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Lucifer on July 21, 2017, 10:59:38 AM
I suspect at some point Sessions will hear, "You're Fired".

 Consider nothing is happening to Hillary Clinton and her scandals, nothing is happening to Loretta Lynch, nothing is happening to Susan Rice, nothing is happening to Comey........and on and on. Oh, and not to even mention all of the leaks.

 WTF is really going on in the DoJ?
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Number7 on July 21, 2017, 11:25:19 AM
Until Sessions fires every single person hired during Obama's eight years, we won't know what the DOJ is doing.
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Lucifer on July 21, 2017, 11:32:41 AM
The Rosenstein episode is particularly troubling.  He writes a memo stating no confidence in Comey and recommends his termination, then when Trump fires him he appoints a Special Counsel to probe the firing.  WTF?  And he appoints a democrat (Mueller) who then starts hiring a bunch of Clinton supporters to work for him.  Again, WTF?
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 21, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
The Rosenstein episode is particularly troubling.  He writes a memo stating no confidence in Comey and recommends his termination, then when Trump fires him he appoints a Special Counsel to probe the firing.  WTF?  And he appoints a democrat (Mueller) who then starts hiring a bunch of Clinton supporters to work for him.  Again, WTF?


They're playing Trump like a fiddle in that area.  Now Mueller has hired all of his Democrat cronies and are doing oppo research for the 2020 Presidential election and we're paying.  Not a bad deal.
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: invflatspin on July 21, 2017, 08:25:02 PM
Until Sessions fires every single person hired during Obama's eight years, we won't know what the DOJ is doing.

This.

The institutional fabric of the dept is still present. Almost all of the staff are libs who wouldn't indict Clinton if she drove drunk into the WH. The top guy is appointed, but all the rest are far left scum. I was expecting an indictment of that IRS lady first thing. WTF?
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Gary on July 22, 2017, 12:36:59 PM
No idea why the President would throw Sect'y Sessions under the bus.  Although I disagree with many of his positions, everything I've read about him seems to indicate that he is a principled and honest guy.  But, then again, that behavior is true to form from The Donald's old days.  You are either completely with him or completely against him.

Gotta admit, the President does have a talent for making enemies that he doesn't need to.  Bit by bit, I see support eroding.
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: PaulS on July 22, 2017, 12:45:21 PM
Trump is throwing Sessions under the bus because he is a pussy, maybe he will toughen up and kick some ass.
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: bflynn on July 22, 2017, 12:46:11 PM
Oh no, the president....criticized someone.  His White House must be falling to pieces and this is the end of the Trump presidency!

BFD.  More manufactured news.
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Little Joe on July 22, 2017, 01:35:04 PM
No idea why the President would throw Sect'y Sessions under the bus.
Taking the job and then immediately recusing himself was dishonest to the President.

  Bit by bit, I see support eroding.
That is because you pay too much attention to the media.  Just like they said Democrats might win the last 4 special elections because it was a referendum on Trump.  How much money did they spend in Georgia's 6'th district?  How did they turn out?

Democrats still don't know why they lost, and until they figure that out, they are dead.
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Gary on July 22, 2017, 01:59:39 PM
Taking the job and then immediately recusing himself was dishonest to the President.

Don't believe Sect'y Sessions had much of a choice.  He could not oversee an investigation into the Trump campaign since he was an early and integral part of that campaign.  Don't think he had his recusal planned in advance, sort of an unintended consequence of events.


That is because you pay too much attention to the media.  Just like they said Democrats might win the last 4 special elections because it was a referendum on Trump.  How much money did they spend in Georgia's 6'th district?  How did they turn out?

Democrats still don't know why they lost, and until they figure that out, they are dead.

Might be guilty of that!  ;)  As far as the special elections, yep, the Dems had lot's of hopes, did lose, but performed pretty well, probably better than expected.  The amount of spending on the Georgia 6th election was phenomenal, last I saw something on the order of $50 million, pretty evenly split.

Agree that the Dems need to re-think how they will campaign in the future.  If they continue to drift left and can't come up with some good reasons why people should vote for them (as opposed to "don't vote for the other guy") they will have a difficult time.

I do see support shifting.  People that I know that did vote for Trump are really questioning their decision.  On a local level I see more grass root organizations getting together and cooperating with the local Democratic party to make their case and get out the vote for the next election.  News organizations that used to be pro-Trump, no matter what, now have an undercurrent of doubt and are willing to air more critical stories. 

 
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on July 22, 2017, 03:45:09 PM
Taking the job and then immediately recusing himself was dishonest to the President.
That is because you pay too much attention to the media.  Just like they said Democrats might win the last 4 special elections because it was a referendum on Trump.  How much money did they spend in Georgia's 6'th district?  How did they turn out?

Democrats still don't know why they lost, and until they figure that out, they are dead.


They spent around $25M on a candidate that got fewer votes than the Democrat who ran against Price in the 2016 election without spending any money.
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Little Joe on July 22, 2017, 07:00:31 PM
I do see support shifting.  People that I know that did vote for Trump are really questioning their decision.  On a local level I see more grass root organizations getting together and cooperating with the local Democratic party to make their case and get out the vote for the next election.  News organizations that used to be pro-Trump, no matter what, now have an undercurrent of doubt and are willing to air more critical stories. 
Ok, I do see some people that voted for Trump questioning their vote now?  How could you expect anything different with the constant negative barrage from the media?

And those "News organizations that used to be pro-Trump" are mostly FOX.  And one thing most people refuse to admit is that Fox has always been willing to air both sides of a story.  But yeah, ever since Megyn Kelly went for blood and fame during the debates, there has been a little more bad blood than usual.  What a bitch.

Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Number7 on July 23, 2017, 06:49:44 AM
All presidents experience a deterioration of polling support in the early days as the reality replaces the make believe.
Even Obama slid in the polls (except the manufactured ones).
The constant death watch by liberals and make believe centrists is just another form of denial and wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Trump Criticizes Sessions
Post by: Lucifer on July 23, 2017, 06:57:11 AM
Where I'm at, we've seen Trumps positions get solidified and he's gaining support. 

I'm still trying to find those supposed media outlets that have supported Trump but are now backing away.  I'll let you know when I find them.

As far as " grass roots support" to get the vote out for the democrats, not going to happen.   The democrats have no message, except for "Hate Trump" and that only invigorates the far Alt Left progressives which represent a very small part of the democrat party.  As long as the democrats keep clinging to the coastal limousine liberals that have all but destroyed their party, don't look for voters in the fly over country o give them the time of day.