PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on January 07, 2016, 07:37:13 AM
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I see in the local paper people wanting to require trucks to put side guards on trucks to prevent the truck from running over a bicylist when the truck takes a right turn.
How about also requiring bicylists to have training to avoid trying to pass a truck on the right when it's turning right?
In other words, the bicyclist needs to exercise some common sense instead of assuming everyone must avoid them no matter what stupid stunt they try to pull.
(and don't get me started about pedestrians that just walk into the street as if they have some magic force field around them)
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No need for side guards, or anything to protect pedestrians and cyclists who are unaware of their surroundings. We've got to clean out the gene pool of dumbassery some way.
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No need for side guards, or anything to protect pedestrians and cyclists who are unaware of their surroundings. We've got to clean out the gene pool of dumbassery some way.
Agree 100%. I used to ride motorcycles. I am as careful to look out for motorcycles as anyone. But around here (Daytona Beach, home of Bike Week and many other motorcycle events), every other car has a sticker "look twice for motorcycles" or "save a life, look twice - for motorcycles". Every time I see one of those I anger my wife by vehemently stating "Why can't the stupid motorcycle drivers drive defensively and look out for me once in a while". Motorcyclists act like they OWN the road. They zip up the broken lane dividers between two cars and swerve back and forth between lanes, or they cruise side by side below the speed limit so you can't pass.
I am perfectly willing to "share the road", but I get annoyed when they act like they always have the right away and I just need to get over it. If they want to have the same right to the roadway, they need to learn to take care of themselves better.
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And another thing...
why can't two motorcycles share a parking space rather than taking up two spaces. I'm talking about when the two riders are together.
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And another thing...
why can't two motorcycles share a parking space rather than taking up two spaces. I'm talking about when the two riders are together.
Everytime I leave the bike in a parking space, I'm concerned that some inattentive driver won't notice the bike and zip into the parking space. So, one approach is to leave the bike just barely in the space, rather than parking as far forward as possible, trying to make it as obvious as possible that the space isn't empty.
But I understand the frustration. When I first started riding, at work we ended up using two parking spaces for 5, even 6 motorcycles. It was kind of an unwritten rule that those two spaces would be used for motorcycles and we wouldn't hog (no pun) other spaces.
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I see in the local paper people wanting to require trucks to put side guards on trucks to prevent the truck from running over a bicylist when the truck takes a right turn.
How about also requiring bicylists to have training to avoid trying to pass a truck on the right when it's turning right?
Um, ever drive in the south? Most people don't use signals, including truckers. I guess one should know via telepathy that the truck is turning?
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And another thing...
why can't two motorcycles share a parking space rather than taking up two spaces. I'm talking about when the two riders are together.
I was out riding with a group of folks, maybe 8 bikes, parallel street parking. So, we put 4 bikes in a space diagonal, to conserve space. So, meter maid comes up and says only 1 vehicle per space. We even offered to pay her for 8 spaces instead of 2, but no, we had to move the bikes and occupy 8 spaces. Gotta love gov't drones.
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Everytime I leave the bike in a parking space, I'm concerned that some inattentive driver won't notice the bike and zip into the parking space. So, one approach is to leave the bike just barely in the space, rather than parking as far forward as possible, trying to make it as obvious as possible that the space isn't empty.
Yeah, I leave the back of the bike even with the back of the cars I park beside, but even then I've had one bike that was knocked down and run over by a car backing into the space. Guy was on a cell phone, go figure.
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I live in a rural area now, but still have to commute to a very urban area regularly. Motorcyclists and bicyclists are one of my pet peeves. It appears that once you put a person on two wheels, all common sense and respect for any traffic law goes out the window. They pretty much do whatever the hell they want and expect you to either get out of the way, or watch out for whatever thing they are about to do and oh do they ever piss and moan if they have to use the brakes!
Motorcyclists seem to fancy themselves as some sort of rebel outlaws and so disregard traffic laws regularly and bicyclists are self righteous and feel that because they are "part of the solution" and you in your car is "part of the problem", that they should not be subject to traffic laws and are justified in taking back the streets. The results of these two attitudes is predictable. They get wiped out regularly by vehicles much bigger than them.
Although I don't use them much, I own both a motorcycle and a bicycle and when I do use them, I am an old fashion anachronism from another era. I'm sure I get laughed at. On the motorcycle I don't split lanes, or ride on the shoulder. I actually just ride the same as I drive my car, or trucks. The same goes for the bicycle. I actually stop at stop signs and stop lights and I ride in the street on the correct side of the street.
I too grumble about the "share the road" signs and the "watch for motorcycles" bumper stickers. We need bumper stickers that say- "Hey you on two wheels, stop being a selfish idiot!"
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I too grumble about the "share the road" signs and the "watch for motorcycles" bumper stickers. We need bumper stickers that say- "Hey you on two wheels, stop being a selfish idiot!"
Yeah, "Share the road" doesn't mean "hog the road".... that is directed at the bicylist illitists that think the road belongs to them.
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I too grumble about the "share the road" signs and the "watch for motorcycles" bumper stickers. We need bumper stickers that say- "Hey you on two wheels, stop being a selfish idiot!"
Yeah, "Share the road" doesn't mean "hog the road".... that is directed at the bicylist illitists that think the road belongs to them.
I have little problem with motorcyclists. Around here, most are overage professionals riding their expensive Harley's like they drive their Lincoln Continentals. ;)
Bicyclists, on the other hand, are rude and dangerous to themselves, and seem to have little problem with holdings up traffic when I'm unable to pass them.
And seriously, when you get off your ride with your weird shoes and Nascar-inspired shirt, can you please, for all that is holy, cover up your junk when you walk into the coffee shop for your organic Cafe latte?
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And another thing...
why can't two motorcycles share a parking space rather than taking up two spaces. I'm talking about when the two riders are together.
I was out riding with a group of folks, maybe 8 bikes, parallel street parking. So, we put 4 bikes in a space diagonal, to conserve space. So, meter maid comes up and says only 1 vehicle per space. We even offered to pay her for 8 spaces instead of 2, but no, we had to move the bikes and occupy 8 spaces. Gotta love gov't drones.
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--bfSPmqbd--/18k1gao8z8hiujpg.jpg)
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One of the problems in human biology is humans don't often see what they don't expect to see. If you don't believe me tell someone the thing you want is in the red box in the living room, then put a conspicuous blue box there. They won't see it.
People don't expect bicycles, and they don't expect motorcycles, so they don't see them. I've had people just about run me off the road looking right at me. Now, I've been riding bikes for decades, and I've mostly kept the shiny side up. I think I have reasonably good habits, since I certainly don't have mad skilz.
Bicycles are a very different animal. I have the power on my motorcycle to get myself out of the way. A bicyclist doesn't have that at all. Puts them in an insanely vulnerable position that I will not permit myself to be in.
They were putting in a protected bike path that goes from my house to my work. Once its done I might start taking bicycle. I wouldn't without the path. Too dangerous. I've already been hit on a bike, in fact everyone I know who commutes on a bicycle has been hit, some badly enough to require hospitalization.
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One of the problems in human biology is humans don't often see what they don't expect to see. If you don't believe me tell someone the thing you want is in the red box in the living room, then put a conspicuous blue box there. They won't see it.
Cool example of that is this really cool card trick:
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I see motorcycles and bicyclists all the damn time. That's why I know of all the seriously stupid crap they do.
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I see motorcycles and bicyclists all the damn time. That's why I know of all the seriously stupid crap they do.
sometimes I think some kids on motorcycles do the stupid tricks in order to be more visible to the cagers trying to kill them. if you know what I mean.
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I see motorcycles and bicyclists all the damn time. That's why I know of all the seriously stupid crap they do.
sometimes I think some kids on motorcycles do the stupid tricks in order to be more visible to the cagers trying to kill them. if you know what I mean.
I don't know what you mean. What's a cager?
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No need for side guards, or anything to protect pedestrians and cyclists who are unaware of their surroundings. We've got to clean out the gene pool of dumbassery some way.
Exactly....based on Darwin's theory, aren't we better off as a species by removing stupidity?
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I see motorcycles and bicyclists all the damn time. That's why I know of all the seriously stupid crap they do.
sometimes I think some kids on motorcycles do the stupid tricks in order to be more visible to the cagers trying to kill them. if you know what I mean.
I don't know what you mean. What's a cager?
cager - person who drives a car.
a survivial technique for motorcyclists are to imagine every cager out there is trying to kill them. While perhaps excessive, it's an attitude that bicyclists might want to adopt (instead of their apparent believe that being in a bike path somehow makes them immune to basic laws of physiscs like mass will win in a collosion).
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cager - person who drives a car.
OK, thanks. Why "cager" ? I don't understand the reference, or meaning. Is it because car drivers are inside a cabin and therefore "caged"?
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Cager: Person in a car, truck, or van.
Unlike a biker a Cager is protected by a cage.
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I didn't the create the term and I don't know the Etymology of "cager".
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When riding my Sportster I have both cagers and baggers to look out for.
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What about flamers?
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What about flamers?
They're the worst IMHO. lol!
;D