Post by: nddons on August 29, 2018, 06:18:22 PM
So said Jason Whitlock, Fox Sports 1 Anchor on the Tucker Carlson show tonight.
I agree completely. And FYI, Whitlock is black.
Post by: Anthony on August 30, 2018, 03:31:40 AM
Post by: invflatspin on September 04, 2018, 02:11:04 PM
I don't know the why, and it's all in the head of the players feelings. Hard to put a fine point on the thing. I don't agree that it's all about money, or that it's all about social justice. I know there are issues that the minority players want to get across. If it's about social justice, they are still doing it the wrong way. The only people they are reaching are the other minorities, which are further segregating us as a nation.
Post by: Username on September 04, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
This kneeling thing is another symptom of the "look at me, I'm special" generation.
Post by: invflatspin on September 04, 2018, 03:17:54 PM
On to the 'market' for social justice. Who is their customer? What is the promotion plan? What prices are they thinking of charging? Where is their market, both logically, and figuratively? If one postulates a zero sum economy, what will the social justice market displace?
I took grad marketing, and economics way back, and I gotta say - I'm not investing. I just don't see the monetary side of this. I'm sure there's a segment of the US which is ready for social justice brand, but at the risk of racism - is that market robust enough to support their offering? Notwithstanding TV shows that portray black families as upper-income professionals, with two kids and a Labradoodle, the reality is far, far different. Splintering a market by killing off one ancillary segment(NFL revenue), and thinking that some of that revenue will flow into the social justice platform is one of the all-time flights of fancy I've ever heard. Enron had a better marketing plan than social justice, and look how that turned out.
Post by: Number7 on September 04, 2018, 06:34:03 PM
Those knuckleheads are letting the brand be destroyed to suck up to assholes, whiners, criminals and communists.
They must think those losers are the only customers they need to reach.
Post by: Mr Pou on September 05, 2018, 04:47:26 AM
My email to Nike was abruptly answered with an invitation to spend some money on their 'sale' items.
Those knuckleheads are letting the brand be destroyed to suck up to assholes, whiners, criminals and communists.
They must those losers are the only customers they need to reach.
Nike appears to want to be the brand of a certain corner of the market, and it ain't us.
Post by: Number7 on September 05, 2018, 07:09:14 AM
NOT about social justice.
So said Jason Whitlock, Fox Sports 1 Anchor on the Tucker Carlson show tonight.
I agree completely. And FYI, Whitlock is black.
FYI: Whitlock is all about racism. He is a babbling megaphone for nonsense.
Post by: Mase on September 05, 2018, 10:59:04 AM
Post by: nddons on September 05, 2018, 11:02:37 AM
FYI: Whitlock is all about racism. He is a babbling megaphone for nonsense.In this case, he’s right, and said it’s not about racism. It’s designed to further the “look at me” brands.
Post by: nddons on September 05, 2018, 11:04:39 AM
FYI: Whitlock is all about racism. He is a babbling megaphone for nonsense.In this case, he’s right, and said it’s not about racism. It’s designed to further the “look at me” brands.
Post by: Anthony on September 05, 2018, 11:46:29 AM
Post by: Number7 on September 05, 2018, 12:10:06 PM
In this case, he’s right, and said it’s not about racism. It’s designed to further the “look at me” brands.
ditto... ditto...
Post by: bflynn on September 05, 2018, 02:41:37 PM
I'm sure there's a segment of the US which is ready for social justice brand, but at the risk of racism - is that market robust enough to support their offering? Notwithstanding TV shows that portray black families as upper-income professionals, with two kids and a Labradoodle, the reality is far, far different. Splintering a market by killing off one ancillary segment(NFL revenue), and thinking that some of that revenue will flow into the social justice platform is one of the all-time flights of fancy I've ever heard. Enron had a better marketing plan than social justice, and look how that turned out.
I don't get it either - Nike must believe that the gain from the social justice segment will outweigh the losses from the "evil republican patriot" segment. I don't know if that's true or not. Maybe the executives are using shareholder money to implement their personal prejudices. Time will tell.
I'm traveling, but when I get home I'll throw out any Nike products. I know there's some branded stuff in the garage, maybe some shorts and such. This does nothing for or against Nike, but it will make me feel better. I will explicitly avoid buying anything from them in the future where before I was neutral about it and that will cost them at least some dollars. Who knows how much...Target has still not recovered from their oops, so it could be awhile.
Sell Nike stock if you have it. The market has only priced in a 3% price drop so far and if you believe only 3% of their customers are going to be upset, I have a bridge for sale.
Post by: Rush on September 05, 2018, 04:00:46 PM
Post by: Username on September 05, 2018, 04:10:50 PM
https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/heres-data-that-proves-nikes-colin-kaepernick-ad-is-seriously-smart-marketing.html
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As sports industry analyst Matt Powell noted in a tweet (hat tip to Business Insider): "Old angry white guys are not a core demographic for Nike." The company's customers skew younger, urban, and liberal, so angering conservatives is probably only going to win Nike increased loyalty.
Post by: Little Joe on September 05, 2018, 04:35:00 PM
Well shit. My favorite shoes are Nikes. I wear them every day. What am I gonna do now?Buy New Balance. That is what I do because they are the only ones that fit my wide flat feet anyway.
Post by: Number7 on September 05, 2018, 06:09:36 PM
Well shit. My favorite shoes are Nikes. I wear them every day. What am I gonna do now?
I have five pairs of sneakers. Two of them are nike and went in the trash today. I sent those assholes a photo of their brand in the garbage bag with yesterdays' leftovers/
Post by: bflynn on September 05, 2018, 06:58:52 PM
Business decision
https://www.inc.com/jessica-stillman/heres-data-that-proves-nikes-colin-kaepernick-ad-is-seriously-smart-marketing.html
yeah...now angry white guys are not even a minor demographic for Nike But, why would you want rich people as your customers?
Sell your Nike stock. As much as the young "hip" types want their companies to represent them, investors aren't ever impressed by companies who cut out entire demographics for any reason. And the investors ARE predominantly old angry white guys
Post by: Anthony on September 05, 2018, 09:19:05 PM
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 06, 2018, 03:51:36 AM
Post by: Number7 on September 06, 2018, 06:35:55 AM
Post by: nddons on September 06, 2018, 09:54:36 AM
Well shit. My favorite shoes are Nikes. I wear them every day. What am I gonna do now?Better keep them. Your faculty colleagues will think you can now walk on water.
Post by: nddons on September 06, 2018, 10:00:52 AM
I have never bought a Nike product. I had Chucks as a kid, then Adidas. I was an NCAA athlete and wore Adidas, but that was before Nike bought off all the programs.Should have gone DIII - you can get whatever the hell shoe you want because you have to buy them yourself.
For football they just had to be black. I had Ridell football cleats.
For discus and javelin, I bought whatever fit my narrow size 13’s. Don’t recall any brands.
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on September 06, 2018, 05:19:14 PM
Post by: Lucifer on September 06, 2018, 05:25:33 PM
Post by: Lucifer on September 06, 2018, 05:26:53 PM
Post by: Rush on September 06, 2018, 08:27:15 PM
Better keep them. Your faculty colleagues will think you can now walk on water.
Yes. :) Although I am not on a faculty. Are you mixing me up with somebody else? Or maybe my brain is misfiring right now.
Post by: nddons on September 06, 2018, 09:01:01 PM
Yes. :) Although I am not on a faculty. Are you mixing me up with somebody else? Or maybe my brain is misfiring right now.Ah my mistake. I thought I was responding to azure. Sorry!
Post by: Rush on September 07, 2018, 12:18:09 PM
Ah my mistake. I thought I was responding to azure. Sorry!
I figured it might be that. ;D