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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 07:10:34 AM »
Quote from: Rush on March 27, 2023, 04:18:57 AM
You’re going to play that card?  I thought we were past that. Locker room talk.  And he was talking about adults.  Trump is in his 70s.  His day was back when we didn’t have the lunacy of needing to get verbal permission before making a pass at a woman.  It was normal to do what he said.  (In the context of already making out - not just walking past you on the street.)  I’ve had guys do that back in the day and my reaction was to simply tell them to piss off which they did.  I didn’t see it as sexual assault and get all traumatized.  If they didn’t leave off, then that would have been sexual assault.  Trump’s comment made it clear these women were consenting if not inviting.

Well of course. This is such a tired trope, and it’s where the ridiculous “pussy” hats came from. Probably millions of shocked liberal women learned to knit those just so they could scream about a normal alpha male saying he “can” do something, not that he DID something.

In other conversations, which the media doesn’t show, President Trump has talked about the women who literally trailed around trying to catch his eye. “Gold diggers” is the euphemism but “star fuckers” is the trade name.

Going nuclear with shock over alpha male behavior just leads to gammas, betas, grifters and cheaters taking over the country. As we see happening.

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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 04:31:48 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on March 27, 2023, 04:27:36 AM
It's not a matter of me playing that card.  I voted for him TWICE, even after that quote was disclosed.  It is just that that is the type of reason that so many people hate Trump and why I don't believe he can win.

To ignore facts you don't like is folly.  (That is the card that I play).  Just as not liking or trusting anyone that Trump is afraid of is folly.

Oh okay, you’re saying other people would not vote for him because of that.  Well it didn’t hurt him in 2020. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Questions Without Answers About Ukraine
« on: March 27, 2023, 04:18:57 AM »
Quote from: Little Joe on March 27, 2023, 03:46:16 AM
Liz Cheney is definitely worse than any Democrat.  If she were a D then people would just listen to her BS and realize that of course a D will do and say those things about Trump.  But when an R says and does those things, Ds and Is and even many Rs will say "Oh shit!  If an R says it about another R, it must be true".  This is one of the main reasons that Trump is so damaged and cannot/will not ever win another general election and why we must find another candidate that CAN win.

But it's not all Liz's fault.  I know libs that would vote for a Republican that they perceive to be honest over Biden.  That is NOT Trump.  And it's not all Liz Cheney's fault and it not all due to cheating.

Trump didn't just SAY pussy, he said that when you are a star you can grab them by the pussy. 
I doubt even Rush or Becky would agree with that statement, at it stands.
And he sounds an awful lot like Uncle Joe with the kissing remark.

You’re going to play that card?  I thought we were past that. Locker room talk.  And he was talking about adults.  Trump is in his 70s.  His day was back when we didn’t have the lunacy of needing to get verbal permission before making a pass at a woman.  It was normal to do what he said.  (In the context of already making out - not just walking past you on the street.)  I’ve had guys do that back in the day and my reaction was to simply tell them to piss off which they did.  I didn’t see it as sexual assault and get all traumatized.  If they didn’t leave off, then that would have been sexual assault.  Trump’s comment made it clear these women were consenting if not inviting.


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 25, 2023, 01:00:42 PM »
Quote from: Little Joe on March 25, 2023, 12:36:13 PM
But it only takes one person to shit in the pool to make others want to get out.

The analogy fails because unlike the pool, here we can simply choose to skip past certain posts.  No one is forcing anyone to read all posts.


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 25, 2023, 08:59:35 AM »
I'm sure it's more fun at The Pilots Place. Brian is a die hard progressive and attracts the same to his political forum.  He used to be on the Purple Board but got Butt Hurt about something and left. He tends to do that when he doesn't get his way.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 25, 2023, 06:57:59 AM »
Quote from: Steingar on March 24, 2023, 07:23:02 AM
According to you nimrods anyone who doesn't follow your Right Wing party line is either:
  • mentally ill
  • out of touch with reality
  • part of some cabal

According to you all there is only one side, and that's your party line.  That's why you don't see me here much anymore, nor anyone else.  That's why very few stick around long.  That's why this site is so dead. I hope you enjoy your stupid little echo chamber, and keep feeding the bully.
A major problem is that we never hear from the other side.  Those of that side that come here put out what appear to be party line talking points but when challenged with actual facts go full fascist and lash out with personal attacks.  Once they do that, facts can't make any progress, reason fails, and they get return fire.  And immediately they claim that they are suppressed, oppressed, we're a bunch of nasty Nazis and disappear.  The other side never tries to put forth a reasonable argument supporting their position.  I do appreciate that you're here.  Just lighten up, Francis.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 24, 2023, 01:56:26 PM »
Waiting to see Vivek get some traction.  At least he's out talking about he wants to accomplish.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 24, 2023, 07:50:24 AM »
Quote from: Steingar on March 24, 2023, 07:23:02 AM
According to you nimrods anyone who doesn't follow your Right Wing party line is either:
  • mentally ill
  • out of touch with reality
  • part of some cabal

All three actually.

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According to you all there is only one side, and that's your party line.  That's why you don't see me here much anymore, nor anyone else.  That's why very few stick around long.  That's why this site is so dead. I hope you enjoy your stupid little echo chamber, and keep feeding the bully.

Leftists can't stand the truth, facts, logic nor reality.  That's why they're not here and only frequent leftist controlled sites like POA and the Pilots Place.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump arrested
« on: March 24, 2023, 07:49:36 AM »
Y’all are just sniping at each other from the extreme positions when I would love a dispassionate analytical discussion.  For example, Steingar, when you say Lucifer doesn’t actually know what communism is, I’d like to know what you think it is, and what Lucifer thinks it is, and then go from there, parsing out the formal definitions, real world examples, successes and failures, etc.  But you all never get that satisfyingly deep for me.  :'(

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 24, 2023, 06:03:39 AM »
Quote from: Number7 on March 24, 2023, 05:17:07 AM
It looks like President Trump polls ahead of the senile imposter, and everybody else in a 2024 matchup.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/03/23/donald-trump-holds-definitive-lead-joe-biden-likely-2024-matchup/

“Trump would beat Biden in a landslide,” the pollster analyzed.

Did the pollster account for the cheating?

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 22, 2023, 04:17:15 PM »
Quote from: nddons on March 22, 2023, 12:31:19 PM
Sorry, but you need to back up your first sentence.

DeSantis co-founded the House Freedom Caucus. How does he accept the status quo if the swamp?

In May 2021 DeSantis signed a voting bill that enforced voter ID, banned ballot harvesting, prohibited mass mailing of ballots, and prohibits use of private funds (Zucker Bucks) for election related expenses. Not exactly the status quo, is it? 

John Bolton said on Rumble that DeSantis is “a puppet” for the MIC. This is rich from a guy who hasn’t found a country yet they he didn’t want to invade and conduct regime change operations.

Meanwhile, LAST WEEK, DeSantis said we shouldn’t be involved in providing weaponry and money to Ukraine.  That’s certain to piss off the MIC. So which is it - is he a slave to the MIC, or is he an independent thinker on the use of military force?

All good points Stan, but can he get support from the Republican Party, which is run by the Establishment staying that way? Will he Administer that way? Dunno, guess we'll see.

Like I said. I've got no problem with the guy. Trump has a proven track record of running on the proper agenda then actually putting it in place.  Yes, he may be damaged goods. So far, I'm willing to take that calculated risk.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 22, 2023, 09:49:41 AM »
Quote from: nddons on March 22, 2023, 08:18:49 AM
For 45 years I’ve had to vote for candidates that I didn’t want, but who became my nominee. I don’t think MAGA supporters are stupid, and won’t be stupid when it comes to the general election and sit on their hands. Though there are a few here that I wonder about.

I’m still trying to figure out the point of your last paragraph, which you keep bringing up when I bring up my support of DeSantis. I’m not ignorant of the problems, but what point are you trying to make?  That we shouldn’t even fight since it’s in the cards that we lose?  That’s not in my DNA. I’ll fight until my last breath, because doing anything less means surrender. Is that what you’re advocating - we should act like the French?

I have no problem with DeSantis except he accepts the status quo of the Swamp, voter fraud, catering to the MIC, etc. Until he says and DOES differently I'll back Trump if I become politically active again.  Nothing is going to change until we attack the root cause of the problem.  The Uniparty.

I'll add that supporting and voting for Establishment Republicans, and most are, is counterproductive and actually works against our cause. It just continues and strengthens the corruption happening. No more lesser of two evils for me. Done!

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 22, 2023, 06:54:46 AM »
I completely agree with Styx on DeSantis here.  He nails what has been bothering me in the back of my mind about DeSantis but couldn’t articulate.  While I thought DeSantis’s reaction to the NY witch hunt against Trump was “okay”, it was not satisfying.

DeSantis missed an opportunity to subjugate Trump and seal his position as a younger, stronger, more dominant male. (I’ll let Styx explain how.) Instead it came off as grudging support but including a little moral self righteous dig.  This actually kept him on Trump’s level or below. 

With the mess this country is in, I want the strongest Alpha on our side. Between the two of them right now, it’s still Trump.  That could change in 18 months, and eventually will change as Trump ages, but DeSantis has yet to prove himself.

9:15 to 18:00


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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 21, 2023, 10:35:27 AM »
Quote from: nddons on March 21, 2023, 10:20:56 AM
What makes you say that?  I see a potential second term consisting of personal retribution, not governance.

But this is academic. No one here has made a good case as to how he will attract the middle in order to win a general election, which is a requirement to becoming president.

That’s one reason I like DeSantis over Trump. The second is I could get 8 years out of DeSantis. That matters greatly, given our ages.

He wanted a second term and being literally cheated out of it is the source of all his current rage.  If he gets his second term, I have no reason to think he won’t continue the same country building good policies he did the first time. No reason he can’t do that and get personal retribution; the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

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Spin Zone / Re: Trump v DeSantis 2024
« on: March 20, 2023, 10:41:06 AM »
I don't mind Trump being an arrogant, narcissist. They all are, he just doesn't try to hide it. That's called honesty.

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