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Spin Zone / Re: Our next "Business Venture", the Ukraine
« on: December 22, 2022, 07:29:48 AM »
I'm not exactly sure what all of your objections are.  Is it the amount of money we are spending?  I consider that as a small, selfish investment for ourselves.  If Russia fails here that will strengthen our hand against Iran and China.

Is it Ukraine's involvement with Hunter Biden?
Or perhaps it is just the fact that Biden and the Dems are for it so you have to be against it?

Is it the incorrect use of the word "Democracy"?  Perhaps what they are striving for isn't actually Democracy.  Democracy isn't right for everyone.  In fact, it isn't right for us either.  But if they survive this in any form, they are bound to be a friend of the US and indebted to us, and we need all the friends we can get.

So convince me what you see as a problem with our support here.  My only worry is that we have gone this far already.  If we pull back now, we will look even worse than we did withdrawing from Afghanistan.  And my biggest objection to Biden (in this regard only) so far is that he has given them too little, too late.  If he had shown some backbone in January this whole fustercluck  may not have ever happened in the first place.  Biden has done NOTHING else that I could defend to any degree.

First objection:  FTX.  We found out that much of our taxpayer money going to Ukraine came back to the Democrat party.

Second:  We don't necessarily want Russia to fall too much as a country.  Too many nukes to end up in a fractured, failed nation. Russia needs to remain a superpower.

Third:  While I was fine helping Ukraine defend Kiev, they need to give up Donbas.  Time to negotiate a settlement, Russia will take it.  Russia knows Kiev ain't gonna happen and they need an off ramp to save face.  But Zelensky won't do it as long as we keep sending him money.

Fourth:  Ukrainians dying to defend Kiev and the nation is one thing, continuing to die defending Donbas for months and years is quite another.  Half of Donbas population wants to be in Russia anyway.  Negotiate to keep Odessa, and end the war.  If Zelensky cared about his people that's what he would do.

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Spin Zone / Re: Another Happy Biden Voter!!
« on: December 10, 2022, 10:11:53 PM »
I really doubt that.  I'm thinking he meant a smaller airplane.
Or a different educational institution.

Either way, it’s nice to see a self-immolating leftist start to feel the burn.

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Spin Zone / Re: “Including the Constitution”
« on: December 07, 2022, 09:52:22 AM »
I'd bet all of these organizations now have political embeds in them to help steer the propaganda.

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Spin Zone / Re: “Including the Constitution”
« on: December 06, 2022, 07:52:36 AM »
Without secure elections - AND THEY ARE NOT! - not in the cheating mail in Dem districts - the government is ILLEGITIMATE.  The election certification is illegitimate.  We in essence don’t have a country.  Nevermind what Trump said about the Constitution.  The Constitution was totally trashed by the Dems FIRST.  Now the Dems make a big deal about a Trump social media post about the Constitution.  Fuck you, Dems, you are the ones who trashed it, not Trump. Go to hell.


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Spin Zone / Re: Austin city council meeting
« on: December 05, 2022, 08:27:29 PM »
Q:  What's the difference between far-out, wild, tin-foil hat conspiracy theory and reality?
A:  About 6 months.

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Spin Zone / Re: “Including the Constitution”
« on: December 05, 2022, 12:47:39 PM »
The wrong that must be righted is that the Constitution already has been overthrown. Not that he wants to overthrow it.

As well, all this attention on his supposed awful suggestion is bringing out the usual suspects clutching their pearls in horror at the thought of touching the sacred Constitution while mere months ago they were questioning the same Constitution and wanting to do away with it.

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Spin Zone / Re: “Including the Constitution”
« on: December 05, 2022, 07:43:30 AM »
No. He said there was fraud and that allows us to set aside parts of the Constitution.  Here’s the screenshot. Parse the English.

Wrong!  He said “Massive fraud of this type allows….etc.”   You parse English.  Subject, verb, object.  It is the fraud (subject) allowing (verb) the Constitution to be violated (object clause, paraphrasing, passively acted upon).

Otherwise he would have said, “The fraud allows us “to violate”,” where “us” is the subject of an objective clause and the verb becomes an infinitive where we are committing an action.  That’s not what he said.  He said the fraud was breaking the rules and even violating the Constitution.

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Spin Zone / Re: “Including the Constitution”
« on: December 05, 2022, 07:39:40 AM »
He could have said it a lot better.  The Constitution does not say anything about what to do if there is massive fraud in an election.  It only says how an election is to be carried out.  If it is shown that the election itself was unconstitutional then the rules in the Constitution regarding that election are void.  He did not say throw out the Constitution.  No matter how many times people are outraged by what they think he said.

Like court and a mistrial, we can declare a "mis-election" and a do-over.

Exactly.  You and Rush nailed it.  The Left and their Media are purposely misleading people. Outrage on this but no outrage for unconstitutional gun control laws, health insurance, government over reach and abuse on every level etc.

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Spin Zone / Re: “Including the Constitution”
« on: December 05, 2022, 07:34:00 AM »
No. He said there was fraud and that allows us to set aside parts of the Constitution.  Here’s the screenshot. Parse the English.
He could have said it a lot better.  The Constitution does not say anything about what to do if there is massive fraud in an election.  It only says how an election is to be carried out.  If it is shown that the election itself was unconstitutional then the rules in the Constitution regarding that election are void.  He did not say throw out the Constitution.  No matter how many times people are outraged by what they think he said.

Like court and a mistrial, we can declare a "mis-election" and a do-over.

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Spin Zone / Re: “Including the Constitution”
« on: December 05, 2022, 07:10:04 AM »
I wonder how bflynn feels about the findings of Elon Musk with regard to Twitter censoring and blocking at the behest of the DNC and Biden campaign?  How about the recent emails showing Katie Hobbs requesting posts be taken down from Twitter?  What would you call such things?

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Spin Zone / Re: Where In The World Is mikey weinstein???
« on: December 04, 2022, 06:27:33 AM »
Seriously?  Republicans complain about divisiveness in the country.  Pot, meet kettle.  This is bullshit.
Liberals and Progressives always find new ways to divide the country. The latest is the use of pronouns.

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Spin Zone / Re: Observations of a Red Neck
« on: December 01, 2022, 04:44:48 AM »
No, because his choice for president has destroyed the economy and the perfesser can't afford it any longer.
That's my take.  He blamed both his eyesight and that he can't afford it because his income is holding steady but inflation is raising expenses. Big fucking surprise.  He voted for it and he got what he voted for.  And more.  I think his eyesight is just an excuse.  It sounds better to the buyer and he doesn't have to admit his part in the collapsing economy.

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And doing a poor job at that. It’s really demeaning and effeminate when a man acts like a Karen.

He takes it as a compliment when reasonable people insult him. He's just looking for responses.

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He's just trolling guys. Ignore him.
And doing a poor job at that. It’s really demeaning and effeminate when a man acts like a Karen.

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Please cite a credible source showing the political affliation of those that are listed as dying because of covid and who were not vaccinated or did not wear masks.

I realize that being dead doesn't stop democrats from voting...

You’re right, Steingar has a point.  All the Republicans that died ended up voting Democrat by mail in ballot.

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