PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: President-Elect Bob Noel on December 30, 2016, 09:56:30 AM
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Just giving people an opportunity to self-report how much they support President-Elect Trump (or how they voted because non-hillary)
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Trump wasn't my first choice, but I like how he has evolved and I'm holding hope he sticks to the platform that got him in. Time will tell.
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At first, I was a lukewarm supporter, almost solely because it was a pro 2A/pro economy vote, and an ANTI HILLARY VOTE. Now that he is President, I am 100% behind him. I knew Hillary would be four more years of Obama economic malaise, and go after the 2A through the SCOTUS appointments.
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I was firmly Never Trump until the lunatics of the left went bat shit crazy about everything and anything, including things that never happened.
Then I became firmly supportive of Trump.
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Voted Libertarian.
Trump may have some ideas that happen to coincide with libertarian ideals but that is likely a matter of coincidence or accident, since he has asserted decidedly non-libertarian policies.
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Wasn't my 1st choice, I voted not Hillary. A rather useless exercise in California. But
I like some of the things I see so far, especially the nominations for EPA, DOE, DOJ. Time will tell. And it is fun to watch Hillary and B.O scramble to place blame for the loss and to see B.O's true colors come out clearly now that there is no point to obfuscation.
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Wasn't my 1st choice, I voted not Hillary. A rather useless exercise in California.
And for me as well, here in blue blue blue Taxachusetts.
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Trump was not my first choice, but he was my last choice.
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Voted Johnson.
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I'm a lukewarm supporter. I didn't vote for him in the primary but did in the general of course, because this country cannot survive Hillary, she'd just continue the Obama slide into oblivion.
I am more hopeful about him now that he's been elected; he is becoming more "presidential" (less insane?). But I understood all along that his extremist rants, like deporting all illegals and killing the families of terrorists, were designed to gain attention, and hence actually successfully win the election, more than literal promises he'd fulfill. I had no problem with that. It certainly wasn't as down and dirty and duplicitous as some of the things Hillary's campaign did.
I still have reservations about exactly how he is going to achieve the goal of bringing jobs back to the U.S. Setting tariffs against imports for example would be the wrong way to do it. This would raise consumer prices, which has always been my beef with U.S. workers demanding the jobs stay home. They want union wages, and minimum wage laws, and the Feds set regulations about safety, environment, etc., plus high taxes, all the costs of which, naturally, manufacturers just pass along to the consumer. To restrict imports as a way to force goods to be made on our soil, without addressing these reasons the jobs went overseas in the first place, will be disaster for the consumer's pocketbook.
And we need cheap, abundant energy. Trump needs to put an end to this movement to destroy fossil fuel. Fuel cost impacts every single thing we buy, use, eat or do. Perhaps no other single item is as important for him to do than to reverse what the left has done to destroy good energy in this country; closing coal plants, killing the nuclear industry, banning offshore drilling, subsidizing "green" energy so the masses do not understand how expensive and inefficient it actually is. Trump understands this but I don't know if he can fight the uphill battle of climate change hysteria.
I guess what I don't want to see is some kind of heavy handed dictatorship methods, the thing the liberals seem to think is a foregone conclusion with Trump. He's basically Hitler, you know, according to them. Well he isn't. But like Obama, he could abuse executive powers and I'm a little wary of that. And he will have a major influence on the country for generations with the SC nominations. Trump is not going to outlaw gay marriage or any of the other stuff the snowflakes and crybabies are all panicked about. But who ends up on the SC will have an impact on these issues, and being libertarian, I'm more a social liberal, so I'm wary of that. But I feel that economic collectivism must be avoided at ALL costs, and trumps social freedoms by a huge margin. So I fervently hope the SC positions are filled by anyone but a leftist.
Trump is not an ideologue. (This is why some on the Republican right reject him.) I guess my preference would have been a libertarian ideologue in a perfect world. But Trump is a businessman who will negotiate or bend, or change position as needed to accomplish his goal. This is why I'm wary of him, and only a lukewarm supporter. His flip flop on some gun rights issues for example. But, it might turn out to be a good thing because there's nothing more dangerous than a rigid thinking ideologue, on any end of the spectrum. Those are the types who will keep a utopian ideal in mind while people around them suffer. A pragmatic businessman on the other hand, will see the reality of the journey to the goal as well as the goal itself, and will see the nuances, variations, compromises along the way, that need to be managed to actually make the good thing happen.
For example, I expect Trump to flip flop on immigration when he sees that although Americans SAY they want the jobs that the illegals are taking, in reality they won't actually take them unless they get a high wage, which of course, means high prices for the consumer, and of course, those same Americans will then bitch about high prices.
But immigration is a touchy subject, and the real problem is cultural. When a people invade a land not to assimilate, but to replace that land's culture with their own, in the end, that country will cease to exist. This is the heart of the "nationalism" that Trump tapped into during the campaign. Trump voters want to keep America America - no, NOT to go back to slavery - but to retain a culture supportive of free enterprise, prosperity, relative safety, and relative freedom from government molestation, that the immigrants from the century before last sought when they came through Ellis Isle.
How Trump will reconcile these forces to result in a country with good employment, low prices, increasing wealth for the middle class, declining poverty, and a reasonable immigration policy that welcomes the hardworking, law abiding applicant who wants to actually become an American, regardless of skin color or ethnicity, remains to be seen.
I am guardedly optimistic.
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Real nice post, Rush. I can't say I agree with all of it, but it is thoughtful and well-written.
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I am now - or will be on the 20th - a Trump supporter because I am a supporter of the office. Like Obama, Bush(s), Clinton, Reagan, Carter, etc, there will be things that I do not agree with them about. But I will support our president because he is our president. There will be things I disagree with him on, but he will be the president.
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Great post Rush. I concur, especially on energy, and the economy.
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Real nice post, Rush. I can't say I agree with all of it, but it is thoughtful and well-written.
Thanks, I see you voted Johnson. He would have been my second choice and I might have gone with him if I'd been in one of the definitely blue states and knew my vote wouldn't matter.