PILOT SPIN

Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: jaybee on March 23, 2017, 06:18:51 AM

Title: thoughts on this
Post by: jaybee on March 23, 2017, 06:18:51 AM
https://www.facebook.com/NowThisNews/videos/1368658269890960/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED

Really, how effective could this be?

Nevermind all the other pipelines that were already routed through the same area
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2017, 06:36:44 AM
I can't play the vid.  What is she saying?  I am sure it is VERY intelligent, logical, and without mindless emotion.   ::)
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Number7 on March 23, 2017, 08:36:07 AM
Sarah Silverman is ANOTHER no information progressive, who thinks so little but talks so much she is in the running to offer just as much honesty and integrity to a political discussion as Maxine Waters and Diane Feinstein.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: jaybee on March 23, 2017, 10:37:33 AM
I can't play the vid.  What is she saying?  I am sure it is VERY intelligent, logical, and without mindless emotion.   ::)

Basically she took her money out of the bank and put it into a credit union to spite Big Oil - because of the North Dakota pipeline thing - she thinks that will make a difference.

Now I'm no financial expert I think that she is pretty ignorant in believing that - among other things...
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2017, 10:46:36 AM
Basically she took her money out of the bank and put it into a credit union to spite Big Oil - because of the North Dakota pipeline thing - she thinks that will make a difference.

Now I'm no financial expert I think that she is pretty ignorant in believing that - among other things...

So she is basically protesting oil, and natural gas pipelines.  OK.  I get it.  So, we currently have 100's of thousands of miles criss-crossing the USA now, and very, very rarely hear about a problem.  They are highly monitored.  In fact, I don't remember hearing about an underground pipeline break.  However, I have heard of truck, and train crashes where oil or other contaminants leak, and sometimes leak into waterways.  It happens, and continues to happen.  So I guess that is OK.  Right Sarah?

I have a proposition for her.  Try to live without fossil fuel products for one week, and see what happens.   
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: President-Elect Bob Noel on March 23, 2017, 11:04:53 AM
So she is basically protesting oil, and natural gas pipelines.  OK.  I get it.  So, we currently have 100's of thousands of miles criss-crossing the USA now, and very, very rarely hear about a problem.  They are highly monitored.  In fact, I don't remember hearing about an underground pipeline break.  However, I have heard of truck, and train crashes where oil or other contaminants leak, and sometimes leak into waterways.  It happens, and continues to happen.  So I guess that is OK.  Right Sarah?

I have a proposition for her.  Try to live without fossil fuel products for one week, and see what happens.

back in the day of Wings Safety Seminars, we had a guy from the NTSB come to talk about accident investigations.  One thing he started off with was the fact that pipeline is the safest form of transportation.

Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: jaybee on March 23, 2017, 11:24:28 AM
So she is basically protesting oil, and natural gas pipelines.  OK.  I get it.  So, we currently have 100's of thousands of miles criss-crossing the USA now, and very, very rarely hear about a problem.  They are highly monitored.  In fact, I don't remember hearing about an underground pipeline break.  However, I have heard of truck, and train crashes where oil or other contaminants leak, and sometimes leak into waterways.  It happens, and continues to happen.  So I guess that is OK.  Right Sarah?

I have a proposition for her.  Try to live without fossil fuel products for one week, and see what happens.

Not just that she is protesting - the fact that her 'war chant' is telling people to remove their money from banks and put it in a credit union because that will make a difference.

Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2017, 12:47:31 PM
Not just that she is protesting - the fact that her 'war chant' is telling people to remove their money from banks and put it in a credit union because that will make a difference.

The only difference between her and Al Franken is that Al Franken duped the people of Michigan into voting for him.  Other than that they are both just whack jobs. 
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: PaulS on March 23, 2017, 01:08:39 PM
The only difference between her and Al Franken is that Al Franken duped the people of Michigan into voting for him.  Other than that they are both just whack jobs.

Al stole that election, very improbable to go from loser to winner in an election like he did.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: nddons on March 23, 2017, 01:33:15 PM
The only difference between her and Al Franken is that Al Franken duped the people of Michigan into voting for him.  Other than that they are both just whack jobs.
Minnesota, but yea.  He's a fucktard.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Anthony on March 23, 2017, 01:54:31 PM
Minnesota, but yea.  He's a fucktard.

Oh yeah.  I don't know which state is weirder.   ;D
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: nddons on March 23, 2017, 02:29:48 PM
Oh yeah.  I don't know which state is weirder.   ;D
Al Franken. Jesse Ventura. Hubert Humphrey. Eugene McCarthy. Walter Mondale.

I'd put Minnesota full on Star Wars Bar Scene material.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: PaulS on March 23, 2017, 02:55:32 PM
It was fun watching Gorsuch handle Franken on the inquisition, he was unflappable.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Lucifer on March 23, 2017, 03:01:55 PM
It was fun watching Gorsuch handle Franken on the inquisition, he was unflappable.

But to the liberals and their MSM, Senator Coke Head prevailed over Gorsuch.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Jim Logajan on March 23, 2017, 03:59:48 PM
Al Franken. Jesse Ventura. Hubert Humphrey. Eugene McCarthy. Walter Mondale.

I'd put Minnesota full on Star Wars Bar Scene material.

I was born and raised in Minnesota. I lived a year in North Carolina and then about nine years in California before moving to Oregon twelve years ago.

IMHO California outdoes  Minnesota when it comes to full on weird.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Little Joe on March 23, 2017, 04:13:54 PM
I was born and raised in Minnesota. I lived a year in North Carolina and then about nine years in California before moving to Oregon twelve years ago.

IMHO California outdoes  Minnesota when it comes to full on weird.
That is why sports has restrictions on amateurs competing with Pros.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: EppyGA - White Christian Domestic Terrorist on March 23, 2017, 06:41:21 PM
So she is basically protesting oil, and natural gas pipelines.  OK.  I get it.  So, we currently have 100's of thousands of miles criss-crossing the USA now, and very, very rarely hear about a problem.  They are highly monitored.  In fact, I don't remember hearing about an underground pipeline break.  However, I have heard of truck, and train crashes where oil or other contaminants leak, and sometimes leak into waterways.  It happens, and continues to happen.  So I guess that is OK.  Right Sarah?

I have a proposition for her.  Try to live without fossil fuel products for one week, and see what happens.


Two pipeline breaks in Alabama last year disrupted our Gasoline supplies here in the ATL
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Mr Pou on March 24, 2017, 04:08:57 AM

Two pipeline breaks in Alabama last year disrupted our Gasoline supplies here in the ATL

Yes, but these are the 1st breaks I've heard of in 20 years of living in the area.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Anthony on March 24, 2017, 05:43:05 AM

Two pipeline breaks in Alabama last year disrupted our Gasoline supplies here in the ATL

I am not saying they never happen, but statistically pipelines are much, much safer than over the ground transport.  Also, I am sure the Oil Co. had to do more than its fair share of remediation due to the Nazi EPA.  What I like about Trump is that he understands that there is such a thing as unnecessary regulation, solely for the sake of enlarging the power and size of government. 

Over regulation does nothing for public safety, or "the public good" ,which the government loves to use to over regulate, but just increases the costs of goods like energy, which is a detriment to the public's quality of life, and standard of living.  The trick is to know when enough is enough.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Little Joe on March 24, 2017, 06:17:20 AM
I agree that pipelines are safer and more efficient than other methods of distibution.

But according to this:

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A recent Wall Street Journal review found that there were 1,400 pipeline spills and accidents in the U.S. 2010-2013. According to the Journal review, four in every five pipeline accidents are discovered by local residents, not the companies that own the pipelines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents
I know.  It is Wikipedia.  But they are not always wrong.

And then there is the fact that when a pipeline breaks, there is potential for much more damage.  Train wrecks are always noticed immediately, and there is a limited amount of oil that can come out of a train car.

All in all, pipelines are much, much safer, but they are not risk free and I do believe they need to be regulated.  And the owners need to be held responsible for their accidents.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: jaybee on March 24, 2017, 06:26:54 AM
Hahaha, ok one more time I guess I need to be more direct.

If everyone in the USA somehow magically moved all of their money out of 'banks' and put their money in 'credit unions' would it have any effect at all ?

My guess is no, I am no financial expert by any means however...
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Anthony on March 24, 2017, 06:36:25 AM
Hahaha, ok one more time I guess I need to be more direct.

If everyone in the USA somehow magically moved all of their money out of 'banks' and put their money in 'credit unions' would it have any effect at all ?

My guess is no, I am no financial expert by any means however...

Nothing would change, and very few, if any will take financial advice from Sarah Silverman.  I guess she is concerned about "Evil Wall Street".  Well if she looked a little bit, or took off her blinders she would see that "Evil Wall Street" supports mostly Democrats, including Hillary Clinton.  The senior leadership of many, if not most corporations, especially NYC investment banks are far left.   

I don't see the banks vs. credit unions as the real issue here.  I see the issue being fossil fuels, and the LEFT'S ITRATTIONAL HATE OF THEM.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: jaybee on March 24, 2017, 06:57:22 AM
Agreed on the irrational. The video basically is her saying that banks support the pipeline so take your money out of the banks and put it in credit unions. I'm sitting here thinking - ummm,,, credit unions invest in the same stock market that banks do...  :o

idiot...
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: asechrest on March 24, 2017, 08:10:02 AM
Credit unions are great, but not for that reason.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Little Joe on March 24, 2017, 10:05:49 AM
I agree that pipelines are safer and more efficient than other methods of distibution.

But according to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents
I know.  It is Wikipedia.  But they are not always wrong.

And then there is the fact that when a pipeline breaks, there is potential for much more damage.  Train wrecks are always noticed immediately, and there is a limited amount of oil that can come out of a train car.

All in all, pipelines are much, much safer, but they are not risk free and I do believe they need to be regulated.  And the owners need to be held responsible for their accidents.
And this just out:

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BISMARCK, N.D. (AP) — A December oil pipeline spill in western North Dakota might have been three times larger than first estimated and among the biggest in state history, a state environmental expert said Friday.

About 530,000 gallons of oil is now believed to have spilled from the Belle Fourche Pipeline that was likely ruptured by a slumping hillside about 16 miles northwest of Belfield in Billings County, Health Department environmental scientist Bill Seuss said. The earlier estimate was about 176,000 gallons.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-dakota-oil-spill-3-times-larger-first-150546715.html

I am still "pro-pipeline".  But I do want to point out that even pipelines are not a panacea.  Without regulations and standards, you can rest assured SOME companies will cut corners and we will have more "accidents" and us citizens will wind up paying for that too.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Anthony on March 24, 2017, 10:26:54 AM
And this just out:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-dakota-oil-spill-3-times-larger-first-150546715.html

I am still "pro-pipeline".  But I do want to point out that even pipelines are not a panacea.  Without regulations and standards, you can rest assured SOME companies will cut corners and we will have more "accidents" and us citizens will wind up paying for that too.

Who said anything about getting rid of pipeline standards, and regulations?  They are necessary.  Let's just make sure they make sense, and not just to run up government fees, or grow government. 
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: nddons on March 24, 2017, 01:33:22 PM
And this just out:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-dakota-oil-spill-3-times-larger-first-150546715.html

I am still "pro-pipeline".  But I do want to point out that even pipelines are not a panacea.  Without regulations and standards, you can rest assured SOME companies will cut corners and we will have more "accidents" and us citizens will wind up paying for that too.
Are you saying there aren't regulations and standards for pipeline operations?  I have no direct knowledge but I can't believe that there is an industry more regulated than an interstate pipeline.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: Little Joe on March 24, 2017, 01:39:54 PM
Are you saying there aren't regulations and standards for pipeline operations?  I have no direct knowledge but I can't believe that there is an industry more regulated than an interstate pipeline.
No.  I think we all agree that we currently have plenty of regulations, perhaps too many.

But my point was only tangentially referring to regulating.  My point was in response to the claim that there have been no, or at least very few pipeline accidents.  There have indeed been quite a few, rather severe pipeline accidents.  Making obviously false claims only hurts the argument.
Title: Re: thoughts on this
Post by: nddons on March 24, 2017, 01:49:14 PM
No.  I think we all agree that we currently have plenty of regulations, perhaps too many.

But my point was only tangentially referring to regulating.  My point was in response to the claim that there have been no, or at least very few pipeline accidents.  There have indeed been quite a few, rather severe pipeline accidents.  Making obviously false claims only hurts the argument.
Concur.