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Title: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Anthony on May 08, 2019, 08:21:27 AM
How absolutely naïve, and ridiculous the Democrats are, and at every level.  Local, State, National.  During the midterms all three of my incumbent representatives were beaten by  First Time, Democrat, Female candidates.  All previous political activism had been community organizer type roles where they championed some Liberal/Progressive cause.  None have any experience, but the demographics of my County an region have changed where urban progressives from in and out of state are moving here because it is safer, nicer, and more affluent.  So they are infecting the region with their brand of Utopian, destructive, Progressive views. 

Here is an example.  My now State Senator, Katie Muth, from her Facebook page.

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Thoughts and prayers will NOT eliminate the following:

✖️gun violence
✖️anti-semitism
✖️white supremacy
✖️racism
✖️toxic masculinity
✖️xenophobia
✖️homophobia
✖️hatred in all of its forms
✖️and other harmful societal views or actions

��WE NEED IMMEDIATE LEGISLATIVE ACTION��

OK, how will more "Legislative Action" solve most of her "problems" above.  Toxic Masculinity, xenophobia, homophobia, racism, white supremacy, gun violence (guns commit crimes on their own), hatred in all of its form???  How can you legislate hatred away?

http://www.senatormuth.com/

My State Senator above, State House Rep. Danielle Otten Friel, and Fed House Rep Chrissy Houlihan all had the same talking points in their literature, and while they vowed to never take "corporate money" the all had the same Soros, Bloomberg backed groups, and Unions behind them, plus Planned Parenthood.   Same talking points, same "supporters" (MONEY LAUNDERERS). 

Yes I am venting, but the Democrats have become anti American scum. 
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Lucifer on May 08, 2019, 08:37:35 AM
The leftist (communist) have taken over the party, lock, stock and barrel.

Same talking points at all levels.

I posted a youtube video by Prager U that was titled "The Left Ruins Everything They Touch".   Explains it brilliantly.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Anthony on May 08, 2019, 09:11:06 AM
The leftist (communist) have taken over the party, lock, stock and barrel.

Same talking points at all levels.

I posted a youtube video by Prager U that was titled "The Left Ruins Everything They Touch".   Explains it brilliantly.

They must think we are ALL STUPID.  I can't imagine posting those talking points as real concerns that affect my constituents.  Not ONE is a concern of mine.  I am surprised she didn't have Man Made Climate Change on there also, although it is probably somewhere on her webpage.  No mention of jobs and the economy, secure borders, threats from crime, high taxes (we have the highest gasoline tax in the country), fiscal responsibility, etc.  Nothing relevant, nor important.  Just a lot of hope and change bullshit, emotional crap.

I hope she, and the other FEMINISTS are one timers, although once these scumbags get elected it is hard to unseat them.  But, that's just my Toxic Masculinity showing. 
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Steingar on May 13, 2019, 08:29:56 AM
It is funny listening to your rants Anthony, seeing how your statehood is very firmly in the hands of the GOP, as is the Senate, the Executive, and now the SCOTUS.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Anthony on May 13, 2019, 08:51:01 AM
It is funny listening to your rants Anthony, seeing how your statehood is very firmly in the hands of the GOP, as is the Senate, the Executive, and now the SCOTUS.

Our Governor is a Far Left Progressive Democrat.  One of our Senators, Bob Casey is a far left progressive Democrat.  Yes, our state legislature is still Republican controlled, but barely.  All of our cities are Democrat controlled as are the surrounding suburbs.  All Democrat. 

What I have noticed in my lifetime, especially the last 20 years is the suburbs around our cities were once solidly Republican.  No more.  Now they are all Democrat, and these suburbs are growing at an alarming pace bring in more Democrats from the cities, inner suburbs and urbanites from out of state who want a nicer, safer environment.

The only areas that are still Republican are the rural areas.  These are dwindling.  Can you comment on my State Senators talking points which was the purpose of the post?
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Steingar on May 13, 2019, 10:02:40 AM
Our Governor is a Far Left Progressive Democrat.  One of our Senators, Bob Casey is a far left progressive Democrat.  Yes, our state legislature is still Republican controlled, but barely.  All of our cities are Democrat controlled as are the surrounding suburbs.  All Democrat. 

What I have noticed in my lifetime, especially the last 20 years is the suburbs around our cities were once solidly Republican.  No more.  Now they are all Democrat, and these suburbs are growing at an alarming pace bring in more Democrats from the cities, inner suburbs and urbanites from out of state who want a nicer, safer environment.

The only areas that are still Republican are the rural areas.  These are dwindling.  Can you comment on my State Senators talking points which was the purpose of the post?

Don't have to.  Politicians say all sorts of things. Guys on the right want to outlaw homosexual behavior, some want gun ownership mandatory.  I've seen all sort of things.  But like I said, you won't be happy until the US is a one party state.  I really don't understand why you don't move to Mississippi or Alabama, they're firmly in the hands of the GOP.  You'd be happier there.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Anthony on May 13, 2019, 10:09:05 AM
Don't have to.  Politicians say all sorts of things. Guys on the right want to outlaw homosexual behavior, some want gun ownership mandatory.  I've seen all sort of things.  But like I said, you won't be happy until the US is a one party state.  I really don't understand why you don't move to Mississippi or Alabama, they're firmly in the hands of the GOP.  You'd be happier there.

I don't see any Republican politicians wanting to outlay homosexual behavior.  How could they do that?  Put a "Safety Monitor" in everyone's bedroom???  I also don't see any Republican politician calling for MANDATORY gun ownership.  Certainly it is not an RNC platform, neither is anything anti gay.  Yes, a few fringe elements may make silly statements. 

My long term goal was at one time to move back to Colorado, but that state due to its urban areas has become the land of the fruits, and nuts, therefore I am eyeing Wyoming, more, and more.  But, for now, I will fight the good fight in this Commonwealth that is turning more, and more Blue every day. 

Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Steingar on May 13, 2019, 10:14:44 AM
But, for now, I will fight the good fight in this Commonwealth that is turning more, and more Blue every day.
Your Statehouse is GOP, one of your Senators is GOP, your Governor was GOP until recently, and your state went for Trump. I still really don't see what's bugging you so hard. 
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Anthony on May 13, 2019, 10:26:10 AM
Your Statehouse is GOP, one of your Senators is GOP, your Governor was GOP until recently, and your state went for Trump. I still really don't see what's bugging you so hard.

Governor Wolf (the White Obama) was elected Governor in 2014 and re-elected to his second term in 2018 which he is now serving.  We had widespread Democrat wins during the last midterm elections, and the Republican majority is tenuous at best in both houses.  One Senator is a far left Democrat, the other is largely a RINO Republican who sponsors more gun control bills with the Democrats.  Our state BARELY went for Trump. 

Nothing is "bugging" me, I still like it here, or I wouldn't continue to live here.  I just see the handwriting on the wall.  Every one of my representatives is a Feminist, Far Left Progressive Democrat, except for my one Senator.  So state house rep, state senator, Fed house rep, one Fed senator, AND my Governor are all Democrats. 
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on May 13, 2019, 10:31:16 AM
Both D’s and R’s like to promote the idea that the extremes on each side represent the whole. They don’t. To complicate matters, the leadership of each side is not necessarily representative of the whole, either.

But you can distill some general principles, easily and accurately. And no, R’s are not wandering the streets with nooses looking for black (and preferably gay) people to attack. D’s, however, are quite busy committing hoaxes that make it seem so. The D commitment to victimhood is staggering.

Dems think you need handlers, Repubs think you need freedom. Dems are hemorrhaging voters who are changing to R. Just those posting on WalkAway alone are up to around half a million. Show me the equivalent for R’s .... it doesn’t exist.

The glaring, indefensible error the Dems are making now is to utterly ignore their work as representatives of THE WHOLE COUNTRY by making Trump hating their sole focus.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on May 13, 2019, 10:38:30 AM
Governor Wolf (the White Obama) was elected Governor in 2014 and re-elected to his second term in 2018 which he is now serving.  We had widespread Democrat wins during the last midterm elections, and the Republican majority is tenuous at best in both houses.  One Senator is a far left Democrat, the other is largely a RINO Republican who sponsors more gun control bills with the Democrats.  Our state BARELY went for Trump. 

Nothing is "bugging" me, I still like it here, or I wouldn't continue to live here.  I just see the handwriting on the wall.  Every one of my representatives is a Feminist, Far Left Progressive Democrat, except for my one Senator.  So state house rep, state senator, Fed house rep, one Fed senator, AND my Governor are all Democrats.
I am in deep blue Washington State, but in the red half. People from our blue half, which the liberals are gleefully ruining, are fleeing to the red half. But do they wake up and start voting red to preserve the functionality of their new home? No. This is happening all over the country as blues flee high taxes and suffocating intrusions on their rights imposed by blue government, then vote blue in their new locales. Moving to a red state or locale only works for a short time before the blue virus invades.

Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Anthony on May 13, 2019, 11:03:54 AM
I am in deep blue Washington State, but in the red half. People from our blue half, which the liberals are gleefully ruining, are fleeing to the red half. But do they wake up and start voting red to preserve the functionality of their new home? No. This is happening all over the country as blues flee high taxes and suffocating intrusions on their rights imposed by blue government, then vote blue in their new locales. Moving to a red state or locale only works for a short time before the blue virus invades.

That is what has happened and continues to happen here.  People fleeing Philly, NJ, and NY due to high taxes, high cost of living, and crime coming here and voting Democrat.  They are indoctrinated, brainwashed trolls who are trying to re-create what they just fled with feel good, Utopian NONSENSE. 

Seattle, Portland and their suburbs SUCK now.  They used to be nice cities.  I know, I've spent time in both. 
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Old Crow on May 13, 2019, 02:02:31 PM
That is what has happened and continues to happen here.  People fleeing Philly, NJ, and NY due to high taxes, high cost of living, and crime coming here and voting Democrat.  They are indoctrinated, brainwashed trolls who are trying to re-create what they just fled with feel good, Utopian NONSENSE. 

Seattle, Portland and their suburbs SUCK now.  They used to be nice cities.  I know, I've spent time in both.
Got the same thing here.  Folks leaving Boston and Massachusetts moving north to New Hampshire to get away from all of those problems and that is why all of our Senators and Reps to DC are blue now.  They keep voting the same as before they moved and expect different results.  One guy I know that moved here 10 years ago said he's always voted Dem and can't see any reason to change.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: jb1842 on May 13, 2019, 02:24:37 PM
That is what has happened and continues to happen here.  People fleeing Philly, NJ, and NY due to high taxes, high cost of living, and crime coming here and voting Democrat.  They are indoctrinated, brainwashed trolls who are trying to re-create what they just fled with feel good, Utopian NONSENSE. 

Seattle, Portland and their suburbs SUCK now.  They used to be nice cities.  I know, I've spent time in both.

I loved Portland 15 years ago. Still crazy left, but not completely in your face, and you could actually make friends with people different from you. Worked there 2 years but lived in Beaverton and Hillsboro.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: NippleBoy on May 14, 2019, 09:30:18 AM
Guys on the right want to outlaw homosexual behavior, some want gun ownership mandatory.

I don't see any Republican politicians wanting to outlaw homosexual behavior.

An interesting tidbit. My first exposure to openly gay people occurred while I was working for the RNC. I'd say about 20-30 percent of the folks in my division were gay.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: nddons on May 14, 2019, 10:09:16 AM
Both D’s and R’s like to promote the idea that the extremes on each side represent the whole. They don’t. To complicate matters, the leadership of each side is not necessarily representative of the whole, either.

But you can distill some general principles, easily and accurately. And no, R’s are not wandering the streets with nooses looking for black (and preferably gay) people to attack. D’s, however, are quite busy committing hoaxes that make it seem so. The D commitment to victimhood is staggering.

Dems think you need handlers, Repubs think you need freedom. Dems are hemorrhaging voters who are changing to R. Just those posting on WalkAway alone are up to around half a million. Show me the equivalent for R’s .... it doesn’t exist.

The glaring, indefensible error the Dems are making now is to utterly ignore their work as representatives of THE WHOLE COUNTRY by making Trump hating their sole focus.
Democrats call conservatives racist, homophobic, misogynistic, islamophobic, white nationalist (even for black conservatives), sexist, Nazi, rapists; they ridicule traditional religion, and outwardly ridicule the idea of prayer. (Booker said that this week.). They physically attack conservatives exercising their first amendment rights, and shout down and try to silence conservative speakers.  They repeatedly run conservatives out of restaurants and public spaces, and lose their minds when they see a MAGA hat. They impart the worst, most vile physical and cultural stereotypes to anyone who dares say that they support Donald Trump.

But azure complains because conservatives use “liberal” as a pejorative.

This is why we are where we are in this country.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Little Joe on May 14, 2019, 10:55:50 AM
Democrats call conservatives racist, homophobic, misogynistic, islamophobic, white nationalist (even for black conservatives), sexist, Nazi, rapists; they ridicule traditional religion, and outwardly ridicule the idea of prayer. (Booker said that this week.). They physically attack conservatives exercising their first amendment rights, and shout down and try to silence conservative speakers.  They repeatedly run conservatives out of restaurants and public spaces, and lose their minds when they see a MAGA hat. They impart the worst, most vile physical and cultural stereotypes to anyone who dares say that they support Donald Trump.

But azure complains because conservatives use “liberal” as a pejorative.

This is why we are where we are in this country.
Azure, you know I try to be fair, don't you?

But Stan is right!  I'm not saying that you personally do those things he listed, but they are prevalent among liberals.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Number7 on May 14, 2019, 12:25:01 PM
Your Statehouse is GOP, one of your Senators is GOP, your Governor was GOP until recently, and your state went for Trump. I still really don't see what's bugging you so hard.

That’s because you suffer from blinders that cover eyes and intellect.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: azure on May 14, 2019, 12:54:04 PM
Azure, you know I try to be fair, don't you?

But Stan is right!  I'm not saying that you personally do those things he listed, but they are prevalent among liberals.

I think extreme behavior is prevalent among extremists. The particular behaviors Stan mentions are prevalent among leftist extremists, other behaviors are prevalent among ultra-right extremists. Branding of all Muslims as terrorists, all gays as degenerate, physically attacking liberal protestors (think Charlottesville). I'm not saying you or anyone here falls into that group.

I do think some of the crazier behavior might be more prevalent on the left because people tend to be more left-wing when they're young, and the brain centers that inhibit impulsive and violent behavior usually mature after one is legally an adult. Maybe even people who never develop good impulse control tend to be more liberal? I don't really know, that's just a thought.

I certainly don't want to defend liberals, or conservatives in this. I just don't particularly like "they" thinking that stereotypes a whole group, regardless of who does it. Both sides of the political spectrum do this, and it is part of why the country is so strongly polarized.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Rush on May 14, 2019, 02:39:57 PM
I think extreme behavior is prevalent among extremists. The particular behaviors Stan mentions are prevalent among leftist extremists, other behaviors are prevalent among ultra-right extremists. Branding of all Muslims as terrorists, all gays as degenerate, physically attacking liberal protestors (think Charlottesville). I'm not saying you or anyone here falls into that group.

I do think some of the crazier behavior might be more prevalent on the left because people tend to be more left-wing when they're young, and the brain centers that inhibit impulsive and violent behavior usually mature after one is legally an adult. Maybe even people who never develop good impulse control tend to be more liberal? I don't really know, that's just a thought.

I certainly don't want to defend liberals, or conservatives in this. I just don't particularly like "they" thinking that stereotypes a whole group, regardless of who does it. Both sides of the political spectrum do this, and it is part of why the country is so strongly polarized.

I agree there are extremists on both sides. And right now I do think much more on the left. Very interesting insight you have about why that may be! Correct that young people are more inclined to violent protest or any kind than older people and liberals tend to be younger.

I don’t know about impulse control. Jordan Peterson and Jonathan Haidt I think both have talked about personality traits of liberals and conservatives. Liberals are high in openness to new experiences. Conservatives are high in need for order. Neither is better or worse than the other. Without openness society becomes stagnant. Without order it is chaos and can’t function.

One of them used the issue of the border to illustrate. Without a border we don’t even have a country. Conservatives or those who need order want “the wall”. But if you close the country completely and never let anything or anyone in from the outside, you die as a nation. To thrive you need to trade and invite others in, but not in an uncontrolled manner.

There were other personality traits that seem inborn that differ between the camps. So there may be something to the idea we tend to be more drawn to one side or the other of the political spectrum.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: nddons on May 15, 2019, 09:05:19 AM
I think extreme behavior is prevalent among extremists. The particular behaviors Stan mentions are prevalent among leftist extremists, other behaviors are prevalent among ultra-right extremists. Branding of all Muslims as terrorists, all gays as degenerate, physically attacking liberal protestors (think Charlottesville). I'm not saying you or anyone here falls into that group.

I do think some of the crazier behavior might be more prevalent on the left because people tend to be more left-wing when they're young, and the brain centers that inhibit impulsive and violent behavior usually mature after one is legally an adult. Maybe even people who never develop good impulse control tend to be more liberal? I don't really know, that's just a thought.

I certainly don't want to defend liberals, or conservatives in this. I just don't particularly like "they" thinking that stereotypes a whole group, regardless of who does it. Both sides of the political spectrum do this, and it is part of why the country is so strongly polarized.
Those comments by Maggie Thatcher weren’t regarding fringe extremists. They were comments about the socialist movement in the Parliament.

Given the US socialist movement’s envy and anger about “income inequality” and desire to punish the producers and job creators, Maggie’s observations were spot in and proven over history.

I will create a separate thread on life in Cuba as told by a US citizen who visits her family in Cuba.
Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Anthony on May 15, 2019, 09:42:49 AM
Right now the mainstream DNC, and the vast majority of Democrat politicians ARE extremists.  Their center is extreme left.  It is who they are now.  The only so called "moderate" in the Presidential race, Biden, is calling himself more Progressive (code word for Far Left) than every other candidate. He is making far left statements, and using rhetoric to signal to the Democrat base he will install every far left policy in the Democrat platform, and in general their entire platform is far left.  Biden recently called for a "Green Revolution". 

Man Mad Climate Change fixes (more taxes, cap and trade) driving energy prices up
Higher income taxes for business and individuals
Income Inequality fixes
Racial Inequality fixes (more affirmative action, income redistribution)
More regulation of fossil fuel energy resulting in less production (higher energy costs)
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens effectively promoting Open Borders
Bowing down to trade partners

These are just a few of their policies.  Tell me please, which one is not far left?


Title: Re: What is it with Democrats on every level?
Post by: Becky (My pronouns are Assigned/By/God) on May 22, 2019, 10:01:26 AM

"Today we live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups... So I ask, in my writing, What is real? Because unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudo-realities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms. I do not distrust their motives; I distrust their power. They have a lot of it. And it is an astonishing power: that of creating whole universes, universes of the mind. I ought to know. I do the same thing." 

Philip K. Dick