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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on September 28, 2019, 06:53:17 AM
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I hope he’s right. My niece who got turned leftward by some Euro trash a few years ago, told me recently that she has “become more moderate lately”. Thank the Lord! I think. Has she really? Or, like Rosanne Barr, has she stood still while the Democrat Party moved farther left? Or maybe she really has moved right-ish because she got married and they bought a house and have a mortgage now, and hence they actually need to hold down jobs. If you need a job, and you listen to the rhetoric from Trump vs any Democrat, which sounds more like they want you to have jobs available?
Now if only we could fix the black vote. Welfare moms are probably a lost cause but middle class blacks like their jobs too. And they resent illegal aliens. Maybe they’ll listen to Trump himself instead of “racist racist racist” all the time from msm.
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I’m not sure he’s making a prediction so much as providing an explanation. The reason Democrats have gone to crazy town is that they don't have any other options. When Warren’s policies and past gets pulled out again, she becomes very unattractive. So, they are doing the only thing they can do to get power.
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I’m not sure he’s making a prediction so much as providing an explanation. The reason Democrats have gone to crazy town is that they don't have any other options. When Warren’s policies and past gets pulled out again, she becomes very unattractive. So, they are doing the only thing they can do to get power.
Perhaps they are doing the only things they want to do to get power.
But is it really that difficult to come up with things they could do?
It seems that the DNC and RNC are continuing their 2016 bet, that is, seeing which party can nominate the worst candidate. In 2016, the DNC won the bet, and they are looking to repeat.
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Perhaps they are doing the only things they want to do to get power.
But is it really that difficult to come up with things they could do?
It seems that the DNC and RNC are continuing their 2016 bet, that is, seeing which party can nominate the worst candidate. In 2016, the DNC won the bet, and they are looking to repeat.
In 2016, I voted for Ted Cruz in the Primary thinking Trump had no chance, nor did I think he was a good candidate. Then as the nominee, I listened to what he said, and since elected he says the same things, and also has either implemented them, or is trying to do so. I now think he was the best candidate the RNC could have fielded, and will in 2020.
Trump is by far the best candidate the RNC can nominate. It is no longer a pick between the lesser of two evils. It is a pick for the U.S. or for a Socialist Utopia the Democrats want to create.
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In 2016, I voted for Ted Cruz in the Primary thinking Trump had no chance, nor did I think he was a good candidate. Then as the nominee, I listened to what he said, and since elected he says the same things, and also has either implemented them, or is trying to do so. I now think he was the best candidate the RNC could have fielded, and will in 2020.
Trump is by far the best candidate the RNC can nominate. It is no longer a pick between the lesser of two evils. It is a pick for the U.S. or for a Socialist Utopia the Democrats want to create.
In defense of what Bob says, and maybe what you mean also, is that at the time, we all thought Trump was the worst the RNC could produce. I too did not vote for him in the primary. I think I voted for the Hispanic from Florida. Whatever his name was. I did it purely on race. (Racist!) Because I thought he’d get all the minority votes against Hillary.
Also exactly like you, I listened to him during the campaign, and even printed a hard copy of his contract with the American voter (aka promises). And I wrote him and told him if he’s elected I will be watching that list to see if he keeps those promises. I thought if he kept one or two he’d be doing pretty good for a modern politician. Well son of a bitch! He’s keeping them all! This is historic.
Not only did he turn out to be the best the RNC had to offer, he is turning out to be the best president in my lifetime. I’m gobsmacked at what he’s accomplishing, and all while under brutal attack. I thought maybe once elected he would join the status quo, and become a regular lying politician, but no! He is staying on the outside, and on the side of the forgotten man, against the corrupt elite. That fact alone ought to get him re-elected in a landslide. Isn’t nearly everyone sick of the DC status quo? The walkaway Democrats see it.
The ones who stick with the Dems now are either too brainwashed by the media to think for themselves, or they are authoritarian at heart.
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I'm still of the thought a dark horse may emerge for the democrats, another selectively crafted individual with a shadowy past much like BHO.
Then again, Hillary is out there hoping and praying the dems will come running to her to "save the nomination"...........
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The DNC is now a lost cause and has gone too radical. Conversely, the RNC has gone too RINO and lacks any backbone or strength.
Perhaps we are seeing the end of the 2 party rule.
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https://noqreport.com/2019/09/29/trump-can-drive-left-crazy/
The left has been losing the plot for years. President Trump just brought out their worst.
We are often reluctant to comment on developing news stories, with the fog of the news cycle concealing the facts, making it difficult to affix the proper assessment on the situation. Just trying to learn what exactly is going on is a Herculean task in and of itself, much less divine what it all means. So this will be some observations from flight level 30 on the overall situation. It will most likely not contain any spoilers.
Recent events have invoked thoughts of the 1988 movie Die Hard, the story of one man, John McClane, played by actor Bruce Willis, resisting a group of ‘terrorists’ who had taken over a skyscraper and are holding hostages, including his estranged wife. At one point, one of the ‘terrorists’ trashes a beverage cart, and his estranged wife comments that ‘Only John can drive somebody that crazy.’
This is not to say that President Trump is unique in this ability. Nor is it to say that he is particularly adept at furthering the cause of liberty. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Any number of patriots of the pro-liberty right could have caused the same reaction in the authoritarian socialist left, including our favorite in the primaries, Senator Ted Cruz.
Those of the national socialist left have an overwrought sense of self-worth, being the most compassionate and intelligent of anyone in the known universe. They know this because they are the most compassionate and intelligent of anyone in the known universe. Thus, they have convinced themselves that they alone have a birthright to rule over everyone else, that the ends justify the means. After all, they are saving the planet. What does it matter if they go overboard in tactics or rhetoric?
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https://noqreport.com/2019/09/29/trump-can-drive-left-crazy/
Those of the national socialist left have an overwrought sense of self-worth, being the most compassionate and intelligent of anyone in the known universe. They know this because they are the most compassionate and intelligent of anyone in the known universe. Thus, they have convinced themselves that they alone have a birthright to rule over everyone else, that the ends justify the means. After all, they are saving the planet. What does it matter if they go overboard in tactics or rhetoric?
That’s it in a nutshell! And that’s the description of all authoritarians and what leads to the greatest evil known to man.
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I don’t think Trump is anywhere near the best candidate the Republicans could field. He barely managed to beat an ailing, traitorous felon to get elected in the first place. If you think he is the best, then you have a very low opinion of Republicans.
But the truth is, unless he is forced to withdraw, the president will almost certainly be the candidate. We can only hope that Dems find someone worse than Clinton because I believe Trump’s electability is even lower now than it was 3 years ago.
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I don’t think Trump is anywhere near the best candidate the Republicans could field. He barely managed to beat an ailing, traitorous felon to get elected in the first place. If you think he is the best, then you have a very low opinion of Republicans.
Bingo!
But the truth is, unless he is forced to withdraw, the president will almost certainly be the candidate. We can only hope that Dems find someone worse than Clinton because I believe Trump’s electability is even lower now than it was 3 years ago.
Not sure that is true. I think there might be a very large and silent swell behind him.
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Let's be real. If ANYONE but Trump had been nominated by the Republicans, they would have LOST. Cruz, Bush, Little Mario, etc. Hillary would now be President. Trump was the differentiator.
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Let's be real. If ANYONE but Trump had been nominated by the Republicans, they would have LOST. Cruz, Bush, Little Mario, etc. Hillary would now be President. Trump was the differentiator.
Hillary was counting on Jeb!, Rubio or Cruz to be the nominee, and if so, it would have been a cakewalk for her. They would have campaigned in the usual republican style (see Romney/McCain in their attempts)
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Let's be real. If ANYONE but Trump had been nominated by the Republicans, they would have LOST. Cruz, Bush, Little Mario, etc. Hillary would now be President. Trump was the differentiator.
Probably true. But if "anyone" (i.e., Bernie) other than Hillary had been the Dem nominee against Trump, Trump would most likely have lost. Many votes for Trump were really votes against Hillary, perhaps just enough of them to put Trump over the top.
2016 was the year of the Populist. Either side could have won by appealing convincingly enough to the common man. The Dems were just fool enough not to see this.
And the thought that we could have easily wound up with President Sanders is the scariest of all.
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I don’t think Trump is anywhere near the best candidate the Republicans could field. He barely managed to beat an ailing, traitorous felon to get elected in the first place. If you think he is the best, then you have a very low opinion of Republicans.
Although at the time (of the election) I would have agreed with you, I would have been wrong. I thought he was a lousy candidate, as did almost everyone else. But since being elected he has proven, against an overwhelming opposition coalition, that he really was the best. I am very happy to have been wrong.
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Probably true. But if "anyone" (i.e., Bernie) other than Hillary had been the Dem nominee against Trump, Trump would most likely have lost. Many votes for Trump were really votes against Hillary, perhaps just enough of them to put Trump over the top.
2016 was the year of the Populist. Either side could have won by appealing convincingly enough to the common man. The Dems were just fool enough not to see this.
And the thought that we could have easily wound up with President Sanders is the scariest of all.
You may be right. We will never really know. Bernie may have been too socialist for even three years ago. Now the entire Democrat Party is essentially embracing Bernie's platform. Warren is articulating it better, however. But, I agree, Bernie may have beaten Trump solely because he wasn't Hillary.
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You may be right. We will never really know. Bernie may have been too socialist for even three years ago. Now the entire Democrat Party is essentially embracing Bernie's platform. Warren is articulating it better, however. But, I agree, Bernie may have beaten Trump solely because he wasn't Hillary.
Yeah, no matter how similar Bernie's and Warren's positions are, she only looks a little bit crazy. Bernie looks full on, "Back to the Future" bat shit crazy. He out crazies Ron Paul.
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Yeah, no matter how similar Bernie's and Warren's positions are, she only looks a little bit crazy. Bernie looks full on, "Back to the Future" bat shit crazy. He out crazies Ron Paul.
LOL! Yes, he does like a bit like Dr. Emmett Brown/Jim Ignatowksi/Christopher Lloyd. Ha!
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Trump connects with the people, look at the number of people that go to his rallies, including those that never get into the venue. He is more like them than any politician on either side of the aisle. He was not raised to be a politician. He is, straight up, a business man. He tells it like it is whether you like it or not and does not back down and people in his administration are learning to not back down. Look at the testimony of the that Ex DNI guy the other day who told the committee chair, " I don't work for you, you work for me because I'm a tax payer". More people need to grow a set.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/09/27/the-speech-that-got-trump-elected/
Rush, the other Rush ;D , played this on Friday.
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Although at the time (of the election) I would have agreed with you, I would have been wrong. I thought he was a lousy candidate, as did almost everyone else. But since being elected he has proven, against an overwhelming opposition coalition, that he really was the best. I am very happy to have been wrong.
Again I agree. When I voted for him against Hillary, it was mainly a vote against Hillary. It was a calculated risk. He was a complete unknown. Hillary was evil, but, better the devil you know, right? Against my better judgment I abandoned that principle which in every other area of life I scrupulously follow. I thought at best, Trump would rapidly become a beltway politician, not even a real Republican one at that. (Remember, he is not a conservative.) At worst, I thought he might become the next Hitler. But, I also thought that about Hillary, so I chanced it with Trump.
I am thinking that a lot - and by “a lot” I mean a fuck ton - of people who voted for him had similar misgivings. And like me, they have been very pleasantly shocked at how he’s turning out to be the most promise-keeping, economy growing, working person supporting president this country has seen in at least a century. Yes, even better than Ronaldus Maximus. I don’t see how he can get less votes than in 2016. But the big unknown is whether the Dems that sat out in 2016 or went third party because Hillary was so bad, come back and vote for whomever they put up in 2020, nor how many walk away because the DNC has become so radicalized.
One thing is for sure, the polls and predictions mean nothing whatsoever. They told us Hillary was a shoe in.
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You may be right. We will never really know. Bernie may have been too socialist for even three years ago. Now the entire Democrat Party is essentially embracing Bernie's platform. Warren is articulating it better, however. But, I agree, Bernie may have beaten Trump solely because he wasn't Hillary.
The whole Democrat party is embracing Bernie’s socialism but the question is, are the voters? Have the young people been so badly educated they have no idea what socialism really is? Just a few short years ago everyone was saying “the people will never elect a self professed socialist”. Now I’m not so sure. The media has completely brainwashed many.
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Is Elizabeth Warren any better, or even different from Hilary?
She is unlikeable.
She's a known LIAR.
She is a shrill, angry, mad, screamer.
Her policies are nuts.
She is unattractive in image AND personality.
She doesn't connect well with people. Too elite, aloof, out of touch, and disingenuous.
I really don't see her as a better candidate, IF she does become the nominee.
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Is Elizabeth Warren any better, or even different from Hilary?
She is unlikeable.
She's a known LIAR.
She is a shrill, angry, mad, screamer.
Her policies are nuts.
She is unattractive in image AND personality.
She doesn't connect well with people. Too elite, aloof, out of touch, and disingenuous.
I really don't see her as a better candidate, IF she does become the nominee.
And I really really hope there aren’t enough total morons in this country yet to vote for anyone embracing the Green New Deal. Because if there are, we are royally and completely fucked because that means most people have zero understanding how their food is grown, how it makes it to the grocery stores, where their cars and clothes come from, how they stay warm in the winter and cool in the summer, where the juice that charges their phones and runs their TV comes from, how their medicines are made, why they have a job, why their poop disappears when they flush so they don’t have to think about it anymore.
Any attempt to implement the GND would lead to massive economic and social collapse, and very likely civil war. Because jobs would vanish, the Great Depression would look like a sunny day in the park. Prices of everything would skyrocket. Shortages of food, clothes and goods would lead to rioting and a black market economy, and we would all be reduced to survival mode, except for the elite that created the mess, who would hide behind their walls with their champagne congratulating themselves on their implementation of the plan to do away with the evils of capitalism.
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And I really really hope there aren’t enough total morons in this country yet to vote for anyone embracing the Green New Deal. Because if there are, we are royally and completely fucked because that means most people have zero understanding how their food is grown, how it makes it to the grocery stores, where their cars and clothes come from, how they stay warm in the winter and cool in the summer, where the juice that charges their phones and runs their TV comes from, how their medicines are made, why they have a job, why their poop disappears when they flush so they don’t have to think about it anymore.
Any attempt to implement the GND would lead to massive economic and social collapse, and very likely civil war. Because jobs would vanish, the Great Depression would look like a sunny day in the park. Prices of everything would skyrocket. Shortages of food, clothes and goods would lead to rioting and a black market economy, and we would all be reduced to survival mode, except for the elite that created the mess, who would hide behind their walls with their champagne congratulating themselves on their implementation of the plan to do away with the evils of capitalism.
Agree on all counts. Surprise Surprise. The Green New Deal is an economic, and social engineering initiative. Not an environmental one. It encompasses MUCH of the Democrat agenda in ONE BILL. A disaster for sure, and if more than just the fringe embrace it we are truly done as sovereign nation. Then it's time to hit that cabin up in the mountains and be self sufficient.
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And I really really hope there aren’t enough total morons in this country yet to vote for anyone embracing the Green New Deal. Because if there are, we are royally and completely fucked because that means most people have zero understanding how their food is grown, how it makes it to the grocery stores, where their cars and clothes come from, how they stay warm in the winter and cool in the summer, where the juice that charges their phones and runs their TV comes from, how their medicines are made, why they have a job, why their poop disappears when they flush so they don’t have to think about it anymore.
Any attempt to implement the GND would lead to massive economic and social collapse, and very likely civil war. Because jobs would vanish, the Great Depression would look like a sunny day in the park. Prices of everything would skyrocket. Shortages of food, clothes and goods would lead to rioting and a black market economy, and we would all be reduced to survival mode, except for the elite that created the mess, who would hide behind their walls with their champagne congratulating themselves on their implementation of the plan to do away with the evils of capitalism.
uh, isn't that exactly what they want?
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These probably should be posted under a climate change thread, but since the Green New Deal was mentioned, this thread will do too.
“We Can’t Beat Climate Change Under Capitalism. Socialism Is the Only Way.”
https://www.systemchangenotclimatechange.org/article/we-can’t-beat-climate-change-under-capitalism-socialism-only-way (https://www.systemchangenotclimatechange.org/article/we-can’t-beat-climate-change-under-capitalism-socialism-only-way)
“A Plan to Nationalize Fossil-Fuel Companies”
https://jacobinmag.com/2018/03/nationalize-fossil-fuel-companies-climate-change (https://jacobinmag.com/2018/03/nationalize-fossil-fuel-companies-climate-change)
There are so many parts of these articles and web sites worth quoting that this post would be needlessly long if I attempted it. So I will just say that socialists openly state they are relying on the threat of climate change catastrophe to further a social order in which living standards are lowered and central planning is instituted.
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And I really really hope there aren’t enough total morons in this country yet to vote for anyone embracing the Green New Deal.
Well, not to vote FOR the Green Raw Deal. Like the 2016 election, its' going to be decided by who people voted against. There's signs out there that say "Any Functioning Adult - 2020".
Trump is less popular now than he was in 2016. For Republicans to win, they are going to have to make Warren (or other) less attractive than Hillary. I don't believe that's going to happen, too many people are already set against Trump. That's the existing impression and that's what Republicans have to overcome. There are many candidates who don't have that handicap.
The Raw Deal is something we'll get if Trump is less popular than whoever.
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Well, not to vote FOR the Green Raw Deal. Like the 2016 election, its' going to be decided by who people voted against. There's signs out there that say "Any Functioning Adult - 2020".
Trump is less popular now than he was in 2016. For Republicans to win, they are going to have to make Warren (or other) less attractive than Hillary. I don't believe that's going to happen, too many people are already set against Trump. That's the existing impression and that's what Republicans have to overcome. There are many candidates who don't have that handicap.
The Raw Deal is something we'll get if Trump is less popular than whoever.
And you know this because the MSM keeps telling you that?
Why do Trump's rally's keep breaking attendance records?
I do agree that there are an awful lot of libs that hate Trump, and I think Hillary's loss will ensure that many of them vote this year. That could be bad for Trump.
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I don't believe Trump is less popular either. Media propaganda, fake polls, all crap.
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I don't believe Trump is less popular either. Media propaganda, fake polls, all crap.
Popular or not, I think that this bogus impeachment madness is going to cause people who would not ordinarily vote to come out as a pissed off mob and cause a landslide for Trump.
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When you're starting from the position of people thinking "maybe this guy isn't so bad", it's very difficult to argue that you're presenting the best candidate. But the trouble now is that many of those people KNOW what the president is like and they don't like it. The calculation has changed from two unknowns and trying to figure out which one is worse to knowing Trump and trying to figure out if Warren would be worse. Probably, but this is a really crappy way to determine a president.
Again - there are people that would be better, people who would wipe the floor with Warren. Trump comes into this election with more baggage then he had last time. He's nowhere near the best candidate.
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Again - there are people that would be better, people who would wipe the floor with Warren. Trump comes into this election with more baggage then he had last time. He's nowhere near the best candidate.
Perhaps I missed it, but who? Who has the best chance of defeating whoever the democrats nominate and will then be better as president than Trump?
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Again - there are people that would be better, people who would wipe the floor with Warren.
I won't disagree with that.
Trump comes into this election with more baggage then he had last time. He's nowhere near the best candidate.
Um, what additional baggage? There are lots of lies about President Trump, but what additional baggage?
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The calculation has changed from two unknowns and trying to figure out which one is worse to knowing Trump and trying to figure out if Warren would be worse.
That’s a dilemma only for people who have zero understanding of basic economics. Which I grant you is probably most voters, unfortunately.
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That’s a dilemma only for people who have zero understanding of basic economics. Which I grant you is probably most voters, unfortunately.
It is a problem. A basic business, economics and finance course should be mandatory in High School, and a core requirement in college. Probably two of them at least. Government creates NO WEALTH.
Also, I do think Trump has the best shot at beating any Democrat out there. What do we want another Romney, Bush? Lindsay Graham?
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It is a problem. A basic business, economics and finance course should be mandatory in High School, and a core requirement in college. Probably two of them at least. Government creates NO WEALTH.
Then where does my tax refund come from?
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It is a problem. A basic business, economics and finance course should be mandatory in High School, and a core requirement in college. Probably two of them at least. Government creates NO WEALTH.
Also, I do think Trump has the best shot at beating any Democrat out there. What do we want another Romney, Bush? Lindsay Graham?
Anyone who doesn’t suffer from hate Trump derangement syndrome or isn’t a socialist/communist at heart ought to be thrilled with the fact that Trump is not a DC insider or a career politician. Anyone who supports an establishment Republican over Trump must not grasp how out of touch both parties in DC have become with the average citizen, and how enraged the voters are with DC stagnation and waste. Trump’s 2016 win was a clear message to both Democrats and Republicans that voters are sick of their shit. I doubt that feeling has lessened any. There is no Republican that can beat Trump in the 2020 primary and hopefully the Democrats will continue their collective psychotic ravings so the voters can see how many tax dollars are being wasted on nonsense while doing absolutely nothing for them so that they hand the Democrats their asses in Nov 2020.
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Then where does my tax refund come from?
LOL! Too funny!
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That’s a dilemma only for people who have zero understanding of basic economics. Which I grant you is probably most voters, unfortunately.
And so, unfortunately, it's not something to hang an election on.
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Um, what additional baggage? There are lots of lies about President Trump, but what additional baggage?
Besides the lies,
- His Twitter style is a turnoff even to people who voted for him.
- He has a history of firing people who don't agree with him and therefore is hiring yes men whether he intends to or not.
- He has shown reluctance to back up US interests with military force.
- He hasn't really delivered on most of his promises. I've seen a list of something like 70 promises and he's kept 16 of them. You can say "yes, but Democrats aren't working with him" to which I'd reply ..."Exactly". That leads to:
- Someone who can't get people to work with him on things is ineffective.
Ergo, he cannot be the best the Republicans have to offer.
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Besides the lies,
- His Twitter style is a turnoff even to people who voted for him.
- He has a history of firing people who don't agree with him and therefore is hiring yes men whether he intends to or not.
- He has shown reluctance to back up US interests with military force.
- He hasn't really delivered on most of his promises. I've seen a list of something like 70 promises and he's kept 16 of them. You can say "yes, but Democrats aren't working with him" to which I'd reply ..."Exactly". That leads to:
- Someone who can't get people to work with him on things is ineffective.
Ergo, he cannot be the best the Republicans have to offer.
He's "only" kept 16 promises? One of which is to vastly lower our taxes. Another is to get us out of that horrible climate treaty, another is to hold China accountable for their unfair trade policies, another to at least try to build a wall, another is to rescind multiple regulations, let's see that's just five, but five HUUUUUUGGGGGGEE ones. Ineffective? What he's done has brought more jobs, U.S. energy independence, and a robust economy. Good Lord what more do you want? He should turn water into wine? Show me ANY Republican wannabe that would do as much. They couldn't even repeal Obamacare when they had the chance! He IS the best Republicans have to offer, but not status quo Republicans if that's what you mean. This man is in a class of his own.
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Besides the lies,
You consider the lies about President Trump to be his baggage?
good grief.
> His Twitter style is a turnoff even to people who voted for him.
Presdient Trump's twitter style isn't new.
> He has a history of firing people who don't agree with him and therefore is hiring yes men whether he intends to or not.
really? That's baggage?
> He has shown reluctance to back up US interests with military force.
OMG - how horrible, the CIC shows restraint.
> He hasn't really delivered on most of his promises.
LOL
> Someone who can't get people to work with him on things is ineffective.
President Trump can't get the dems (ya know, the ones with sever TDS) to work with him and you blame President Trump.
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He's "only" kept 16 promises? One of which is to vastly lower our taxes. Another is to get us out of that horrible climate treaty, another is to hold China accountable for their unfair trade policies, another to at least try to build a wall, another is to rescind multiple regulations, let's see that's just five, but five HUUUUUUGGGGGGEE ones. Ineffective? What he's done has brought more jobs, U.S. energy independence, and a robust economy. Good Lord what more do you want? He should turn water into wine? Show me ANY Republican wannabe that would do as much. They couldn't even repeal Obamacare when they had the chance! He IS the best Republicans have to offer, but not status quo Republicans if that's what you mean. This man is in a class of his own.
This is a year old, but makes an excellent point. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping
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And so, unfortunately, it's not something to hang an election on.
Maybe things have changed, but people like to eat. People vote "pocketbook" all the time. Maybe now more are looking to government to give them that pocketbook, but even more would like a better life than welfare provides.
The tax cuts, historically low unemployment rate, and low energy prices means most people have more disposable income, or at least able to get by better than previously. The fact they Media doesn't talk about that doesn't mean people aren't noticing it.
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Besides the lies,
- His Twitter style is a turnoff even to people who voted for him.
- He has a history of firing people who don't agree with him and therefore is hiring yes men whether he intends to or not.
- He has shown reluctance to back up US interests with military force.
- He hasn't really delivered on most of his promises. I've seen a list of something like 70 promises and he's kept 16 of them. You can say "yes, but Democrats aren't working with him" to which I'd reply ..."Exactly". That leads to:
- Someone who can't get people to work with him on things is ineffective.
Ergo, he cannot be the best the Republicans have to offer.
Sorry, but you’ve totally lost me.
EXACTLY how many campaign promises did the last six presidents keep, combined???
Your argument is pretty much trash talking and bullshit.
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LOL! Too funny!
It is funny but so many people believe it!
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It is funny but so many people believe it!
The average IQ is only 100. And half of people are even stupider.
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The average IQ is only 100. And half of people are even stupider.
I always chuckle at that when people quote averages. But to be technically correct, you should use "median" instead of "average".
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I always chuckle at that when people quote averages. But to be technically correct, you should use "median" instead of "average".
You are right.
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Sorry, but you’ve totally lost me.
EXACTLY how many campaign promises did the last six presidents keep, combined???
Your argument is pretty much trash talking and bullshit.
Not trash at all - pulling facts.
Estimates
Obama - 60%
Bush - 73%
Clinton - 54%
Bush - 64%
Reagan - 67%
If you think Trump is better than about 20%, care to list the actual promises kept AND the ones he didn't?
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source?
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You'd have to also factor in the magnitude of promise. "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" has way more impact than "I promise not to have sex with a wookie".
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You didn't build that!
Benghazi was about a YouTube video!
Your healthcare costs will go down!
You can keep your healthcare plan!
Fundamental Transformation!
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source?
Maybe msnbc
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I pulled data from a lot of places.
There's a table here that is not bad
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/trust-us-politicians-keep-most-of-their-promises/
Still waiting to hear what promises you think Trump has kept. Has he built a single foot of a wall that Mexico paid for? Has he repealed the ACA? Has North Korea destroyed a single nuke, I mean, other than blowing the up on rocket failures? Did funding for sanctuary cities stop? Any new laws for punishment for illegal entry? Is waterboarding back?
I can keep going and list far more failures than you can list successes. But somehow you smugly think he's "winning"?
For the good of the country, I kinda hope that he is impeached and removed from office so someone else (Pence?) can campaign effectively and without the baggage that Trump has accumulated.
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For the good of the country, I kinda hope that he is impeached and removed from office so someone else (Pence?) can campaign effectively and without the baggage that Trump has accumulated.
And then Pence can run again in 2020 and 2024 and Dems will be out of the White House till 2028. I might be good with that. But I can't honestly say I know too much about Pence, except that he is a good SIC.
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Trump connects with the people, look at the number of people that go to his rallies, including those that never get into the venue. He is more like them than any politician on either side of the aisle. He was not raised to be a politician. He is, straight up, a business man. He tells it like it is whether you like it or not and does not back down and people in his administration are learning to not back down. Look at the testimony of the that Ex DNI guy the other day who told the committee chair, " I don't work for you, you work for me because I'm a tax payer". More people need to grow a set.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2019/09/27/the-speech-that-got-trump-elected/
Rush, the other Rush ;D , played this on Friday.
^^^^^^ THIS is why Trump resonates with tens of millions of us.
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When you're starting from the position of people thinking "maybe this guy isn't so bad", it's very difficult to argue that you're presenting the best candidate. But the trouble now is that many of those people KNOW what the president is like and they don't like it. The calculation has changed from two unknowns and trying to figure out which one is worse to knowing Trump and trying to figure out if Warren would be worse. Probably, but this is a really crappy way to determine a president.
Again - there are people that would be better, people who would wipe the floor with Warren. Trump comes into this election with more baggage then he had last time. He's nowhere near the best candidate.
I think you are TOTALLY misreading the situation.
Yes, most people started out as “maybe this guy isn’t so bad.” However, with almost 3 years under our belt, I believe most people know what the president is like and LOVE IT. This is not just me talking in an echo chamber. This is people who aren’t on a regular diet of CNNMSNBCABCCBS, but are just trying to live their lives without being obsessed by politics.
These people love how this country has turned around, love how unemployment is down to record levels, and yes, love the feistiness of Trump.
When these same people see him relentlessly bullied and badgered, for no good reason, they are standing by Trump’s side.
What is this “more baggage?” The Russia thing was a big fat zero. This Ukraine thing will be same thing. I would say Trump May be the LEAST corrupt person to sit in the Oval Office in 50 years.
You only get your opinion of baggage if you have a regular diet of the MSM. The rest of America who are like those who attend Trump’s rallies could not care less, and are ready to take out their wrath on these ankle biters.
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I think you are TOTALLY misreading the situation.
Yes, most people started out as “maybe this guy isn’t so bad.” However, with almost 3 years under our belt, I believe most people know what the president is like and LOVE IT. This is not just me talking in an echo chamber. This is people who aren’t on a regular diet of CNNMSNBCABCCBS, but are just trying to live their lives without being obsessed by politics.
These people love how this country has turned around, love how unemployment is down to record levels, and yes, love the feistiness of Trump.
When these same people see him relentlessly bullied and badgered, for no good reason, they are standing by Trump’s side.
What is this “more baggage?” The Russia thing was a big fat zero. This Ukraine thing will be same thing. I would say Trump May be the LEAST corrupt person to sit in the Oval Office in 50 years.
You only get your opinion of baggage if you have a regular diet of the MSM. The rest of America who are like those who attend Trump’s rallies could not care less, and are ready to take out their wrath on these ankle biters.
Trump came to The Office not wanting personal gain from serving. That is just one of the things I like about the way he is serving us.
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^^^^^^ THIS is why Trump resonates with tens of millions of us.
Unfortunately, it takes hundreds of millions votes to get elected.
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I think you are TOTALLY misreading the situation.
Hope I am. But if I thought I was, then I wouldn't be spending time.
What is this “more baggage?” The Russia thing was a big fat zero. This Ukraine thing will be same thing. I would say Trump May be the LEAST corrupt person to sit in the Oval Office in 50 years.
Asked and answered.
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Unfortunately, it takes hundreds of millions votes to get elected.
Really? So with about 129 million votes cast in 2016, which candidate got more than 100 million?
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Really? So with about 129 million votes cast in 2016, which candidate got more than 100 million?
Hey, Joe Biden is going to bring in 720 million more women into the work force.............
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Hey, Joe Biden is going to bring in 720 million more women into the work force.............
And inappropriately touch and smell everyone.
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And inappropriately touch and smell everyone.
Just pointing out how idiots make ridiculous claims (720 million women, hundreds of millions of votes to win an election).
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Just pointing out how idiots make ridiculous claims (720 million women, hundreds of millions of votes to win an election).
I'm sure Anthony understood that.
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I'm sure Anthony understood that.
In a country of 330 million? I wish there were 720 million women, all good looking! For me to "objectify"! lol!
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Really? So with about 129 million votes cast in 2016, which candidate got more than 100 million?
The hyperbole candidate.
I suppose 62 million is technically “tens of millions”. But so is 65 million. My goof.