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Spin Zone / Re: The Pathetic State of the Republican Party
« on: November 16, 2023, 12:18:47 PM »I, for one, do indeed care about the debt. But I know who was responsible.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Pathetic State of the Republican Party
« on: November 16, 2023, 11:53:42 AM »He's not my "messiah".You have a serious reading comprehension problem, and a lying problem. I have the same disgust with the GOP as you do, and have never said anything supportive of any of the above. They are all a blight on the party and the conservative movement.
You refuse to acknowledge what a train wreck the RNC has become, and that once again they are pushing establishment types that the voters are rejecting. As long as you have trash like the Romneys, Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, the Bushes and other RINO's running the show, expect more losses.
You will never admit to how bad the establishment has fucked over it's own party members.
As for the RNC, it seems like Mitt Romney’s niece and four-time Trump-endorsed Ronna “Botox” McDaniel is doing the bidding of Donald Trump by not requiring all candidates to participate in debates if they want to be the party’s nominee. Trump is getting everything he paid for with Ronna. Who’s the RINO?
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Spin Zone / Re: The Pathetic State of the Republican Party
« on: November 16, 2023, 10:15:21 AM »But if we just put an establishment republican on the ticket and let the RNC run the campaign, we will get to watch them go down in flames and give us a real nifty concession speech.More lies from your messiah, who cannot win the general election in my opinion. And at the end of the day that’s all that matters.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Pathetic State of the Republican Party
« on: November 16, 2023, 10:14:11 AM »He’s not perfect but you’re swimming against a tsunami trying to get someone else on the Republican ticket.I’m trying to point out how some of you have put blinders on the real problems that Trump gave us. Yes, he did many great things. He also did things that any OBJECTIVE person would say that no president should have done.
If you don’t give a shit about $8T in debt in 4 years, then I guess there’s not much to talk about. I do care.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Pathetic State of the Republican Party
« on: November 16, 2023, 09:21:42 AM »<sigh> people still (incorrectly) go on and on about the President adding debt. It's not the President's job to appropriate money.The President signs all bills. No spending bills under Trump became law due to a veto override or a pocket veto. It’s his signature on every one of those bills. He could have vetoed any of them and he chose not to do so. Congress can’t appropriate shit without the president’s acquiescence.
At worst (or best) you can claim the President participates, but at the end of the day Congress owns the responsibility.
your other points are valid.
I just can’t fucking stand how we are all Conservatives until we have to do Conservative shit like being marginally more fiscally responsible than the money spending democrats.
Trump literally borrowed almost as much in 4 years ($8.2T) as Obama did in 8 years ($8.34T).
He had 5 stimulus relief packages in 2020. Five. Who would have thought that giving forgivable loans in the millions to businesses of all stripes is really what was needed to keep the economy afloat, and wouldn’t help trigger the inflation we have today?
But hey, he would have been crucified by the public if he didn’t “do something.” Well boo hoo. I thought we hired adults to lead the country.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 15, 2023, 09:31:05 PM »When I brace a brain washed liberal about murdering the unborn, they instantly trot out old worn out, bullshit sound bite lines that are so pathetically shallow that calling them lame does not do them Justice.Bingo.
The brainwashing on the subject of devaluing human life is so deeply ingrained that many so-called republicans are ready to throw in the towel and “compromise” like fucking lemmings on the subject.
Standing up for life is universes harder than caving to the communist left democrats, that’s why so many so-called republicans want to surrender and call it compromise.
Once you (the individual you, not everybody you) accept murdering inconvenient unborn children, you cross the line into the sickness that infects half the country.
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Spin Zone / Re: The Pathetic State of the Republican Party
« on: November 15, 2023, 04:58:16 PM »He’s in his late 70s. He’s not going to change and he’s not perfect. He gave us four years of low gas prices, a booming economy, a secure border (relatively), less regulations and world peace. What the hell more do you want from the guy?How about not adding $8 Trillion to our debt in four years?
How about not lying to us about draining the swamp?
How about giving a little help to the J6 people in prison and bankrupt from legal fees?
Just a thought.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 15, 2023, 08:34:25 AM »You have a political party who is hell bent on Totalitarianism. They mock the opposition party at every opportunity, and they constantly keep saying "Aw, c'mon, just trust us" as well as "The republicans just won't compromise!" while all along it is them saying "my way or the highway!".Hamas filmed their own version of abortion. They filmed cutting a baby out of the womb of a mother, then beheading the baby in front of the mother, and then killing the mother. All on a GoPro.
We have a party that is made up of pure evil, and a death cult mentality. They are now aligning their values with another party of long ago known as the National Socialist Party. We know that party as "Nazi's".
You can't negotiate with evil, and there is no compromise.
How far away is the death cult democrat party from that? Sure they won’t kill the mother because she’s a reliable democrat voter, but they clearly have absolutely zero regard for the baby.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 14, 2023, 08:26:55 AM »
One tiny correction. The right to keep and bear arms is not granted by the Constitution, but is guaranteed by the Constitution.
A “right” granted by the Government is no right at all, as it can be taken away just as easily as it was granted.
A “right” granted by the Government is no right at all, as it can be taken away just as easily as it was granted.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 11:38:00 PM »There are currently federal and state laws that restrict convicted felons from buying and owning firearms.Correct. Joe came up with literally nothing new or innovative.
Maybe he’ll propose passing a law about speeding next.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 11:34:40 PM »Aw Jeez. Here we go again.Your “proposal” is already law and nothing is new. Your proposal reiterated the law as it is written. The downfall is in the willful failure to enforce those laws.
So you think that getting rid of 22,000 anti-gun laws and replacing them with one that tries to keep convicted criminals that have used guns to commit a crime from having more guns is too much to ask? We truly are fucked.
Have you noticed that I made a proposal, and everyone else complained about it, but nobody else came up with any better ideas? You guys want a convention of States, but have you ever considered that it might be about as successful as every election since Jan 6 when the Rs kept getting their asses beat? Why do you think a CoS would be any different?
Passing another law to force judges to enforce the law?
As for the COS, you need to read up on it. It bypasses Congress and the president completely.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 04:32:49 PM »Murder is usually investigated pretty thoroughly, and if one is caught and convicted they are generally harshly punished.Yet virtually ALL democrats will seek a solution that harms law abiding citizens, as we are the only ones who they think will comply with their law.
But attempted murder is often NOT investigated as thoroughly, and robberies using a gun are investigated even less. And intimidation with a gun is practically condoned if the perp is not a white male. This causes people to think they can commit a crime with a gun and escape punishment. THAT has to change.
And NONE of that is aimed at law-abiding citizens.
In Illinois my brother will be forced to register his AR-15 by the end of the year I believe or become a felon in possession of an unlawful firearm.
All because blacks can’t stop killing themselves in Chicago.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 10:15:34 AM »And the only way to end that cycle is for the opposition to fight the communist democrat party the exact same way they fight us.They are literally a death cult.
You don't negotiate with terrorists, and this last 2 weeks have shown the communist/fascist democrat party with their sheet pulled back. They are a party of terror, racism, hate, and violence.
fuck them and their feelings.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 10:03:37 AM »As I said, conservatives have not been compromising. They have been surrendering, or just accepting defeat.Yes. Spending levels. Tax rates. Military spending. Foreign aid.
My point was that BOTH SIDES compromise. And that won't happen when we let either the far left or the far right (which most of the people on this site are) lead the way. The center left and the center right is the only place where true compromise might have a chance.
I don't know if that can ever happen. But I do believe that unless it does happen thing will continue to get worse.
Is there ANYTHING you would be willing to compromise on if it was a true give-and-take and not just capitulation?
But there are a lot of no-compromise zones, including God-given rights guaranteed by our Constitution. No compromise on illegal aliens for example.
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Spin Zone / Re: 2024 Presidential "Election"
« on: November 13, 2023, 08:14:00 AM »Make laws that don't only restrict law abiding citizens, and ENFORCE them.So lump law abiding citizens into a new law that also goes after criminals, but mean it this time?
Use a gun to commit a crime, go to prison for a long time. FIRST TIME. Second time, LIFE (or death).
Enforce that for a while and see what happens to crimes using a gun.
I read an article recently where the local police force had only been seriously investigating gun crimes where a death occurred. If the victim accidentally lived, they barely investigated. They made a strategic decision to investigate ALL gun crimes and found that their success rate was higher and gun crime began to decline.
What you stated is already law everywhere. But DAs, AGs, prosecutors and judges don’t enforce them.
Hell, Bill Clinton signed a crime bill in 1994 but that was gutted my no less than SCOTUS. That law included the “Three Strikes You’re Out” law, which would fit what you propose.
So if you want to write a new law that restricts law abiding citizens and criminals, that’s a non-starter.