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Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: bflynn on May 21, 2017, 04:06:17 PM

Title: Trump speech in Saudi Arabia
Post by: bflynn on May 21, 2017, 04:06:17 PM
Heart of Trump's speech in Saudi Arabia:

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Terrorism has spread across the world. But the path to peace begins right here, on this ancient soil, in this sacred land.
America is prepared to stand with you – in pursuit of shared interests and common security.
But the nations of the Middle East cannot wait for American power to crush this enemy for them. The nations of the Middle East will have to decide what kind of future they want for themselves, for their countries, and for their children.
It is a choice between two futures – and it is a choice America CANNOT make for you.
A better future is only possible if your nations drive out the terrorists and extremists. Drive. Them. Out.
DRIVE THEM OUT of your places of worship.
DRIVE THEM OUT of your communities.
DRIVE THEM OUT of your holy land, and
DRIVE THEM OUT OF THIS EARTH.

I like the message.  The path to destroying radical terrorists is to delegitimize their actions.  Too many Muslims either don't care or approve when ISIS does violence.  That perception needs to change.

We have experienced that in the United States too with the Klan.  We exposed who they were and what they did and condemned them soundly.  Today, because of that condemnation, the Klan is basically defunct with less than 5,000 members.

This is the path for peaceful Muslims to follow with radical terrorists.  It is not enough to say "oh, they don't speak for Islam", because the terrorist ARE speaking for Islam.
Title: Re: Trump speech in Saudi Arabia
Post by: Rush on May 21, 2017, 04:27:20 PM
I think that's a pretty ballsy speech, in a good way.
Title: Re: Trump speech in Saudi Arabia
Post by: Jim Logajan on May 21, 2017, 07:49:19 PM
Nice non-interventionist rhetoric.
Seems unlikely to be acted on, though.
Title: Re: Trump speech in Saudi Arabia
Post by: Anthony on May 22, 2017, 05:50:56 AM
Nice non-interventionist rhetoric.
Seems unlikely to be acted on, though.

Why do you say that?  The first step is recognizing, and identifying the problem in addition to admitting the problem.  For eight years Obama, nor any Democrat would admit that radical Islamic terrorism was the problem.  Appeasement only emboldens them.
Title: Re: Trump speech in Saudi Arabia
Post by: Little Joe on May 22, 2017, 08:09:05 AM
Nice non-interventionist rhetoric.
Seems unlikely to be acted on, though.
I don't think it was a non-interventionist speech.  He didn't say we wouldn't be a part of the solution.  He said the Muslims and Arabs have to take the lead and decide what they want their future to look like.  If they act decisively against the terrorists and the radical Islamist's, we will be right by their side.  What he said was that we can't decide for them, or intervene in their place.
Title: Re: Trump speech in Saudi Arabia
Post by: LevelWing on May 22, 2017, 08:53:13 PM
The speech was certainly a step in the right direction. At the very least it wasn't an embarrassment like with Obama. The King was there to greet Trump at the airport, which was the opposite of what happened when Obama went there.