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Spin Zone / Re: CNBC must have just had an epiphany
« on: May 05, 2017, 09:24:08 AM »
Quote from: LevelWing on May 05, 2017, 08:58:02 AM
Correct. I don't think anybody here will argue that point. I think the point trying to be made instead was that under Obama the unemployment rate was factoring in only certain elements which made the unemployment rate look lower than it really was.

We can argue that the same is true under Trump, but the BIG DIFFERENCE (pay attention Michael) is that NOW the media decides to broadcast it, and they didn't under Obama. 

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Spin Zone / Re: $1 Trillion Spending Bill Deal
« on: May 03, 2017, 06:15:42 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on May 03, 2017, 05:31:15 AM
This is Paul Ryan and the Washington establishment. They will not allow Trump to push through his agenda and will keep stalling and delaying.

This is my thought and fear also.  The Swamp is fighting back with a vengeance, and it has a lot of money, power, and politicians of both parties in it.   

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Spin Zone / Re: Immigration solution
« on: May 02, 2017, 11:59:47 AM »
Quote from: Jim Logajan on May 02, 2017, 11:13:45 AM
A robbery creates a victim.
Who is the victim in the case of illegal immigration?

The victims are those of us who paid here to come legally, and also those of us that have to pay for a support system for criminals (illegal aliens).  Our costs for health care, education, welfare, etc all go up when illegals use them. 

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With regard to the issue of government taxes and benefits - aren't legal immigrants also victimizing citizens and taxpayers of the United States? Other than the paperwork trail there seems no distinguishing difference between legal and illegal immigrants.

Legal immigrants are documented, can be tracked, and even can have their benefits reduced or removed.  As legal immigrants, or citizens, they are entitled by law for those benefits.   

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Spin Zone / Re: $1 Trillion Spending Bill Deal
« on: May 02, 2017, 09:20:12 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on May 02, 2017, 09:12:28 AM
Obama was schooled on communism and embraced it.

Frank Marshall Davis, and Obama's own book, "Dreams of my Father" are just two examples. 

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Spin Zone / Re: $1 Trillion Spending Bill Deal
« on: May 02, 2017, 09:06:56 AM »
Quote from: Steingar on May 02, 2017, 08:57:22 AM
The Mango Mussilini will sign it

Sometimes you have to pick your battles.  Personally this is a battle I would choose to fight if I were Trump.  Also, exactly what "Mussolini" type dictatorial, and fascist actions has Trump committed for you to use that description of him.  I know its a joke, but at least when we called Obama a communist we had a track record of his to justify that moniker.  :)

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Spin Zone / Re: Immigration solution
« on: May 01, 2017, 03:02:20 PM »
Quote from: Steingar on May 01, 2017, 02:34:25 PM
If someone's only crime is entering illegally, they've been able to stay out of trouble and are productive residents says me they're people we want, and we should find a way to keep them.

So the ends justify the illegal means?  Not buying it.  The problem is there is no way to separate the ones that will stay out of trouble, and become productive without first vetting them.  That means going through the legal process PRIOR to entry, not after when and if they commit a crime, or just leach off the system. 

Do you try to prevent a parasitic, or destructive organism from entering your system, or are you careless, and just rely on eradicating them if you see the symptoms?   

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Spin Zone / Re: Immigration solution
« on: May 01, 2017, 01:07:58 PM »
Quote from: PaulS on May 01, 2017, 12:49:37 PM
I love immigration,  once again you either ignore or miss the point completely.   It is illegal immigration that is the problem.  In your analysis did you consider extreme poverty, hunger and/or oppression might be stronger motivators to emigrate from an area than intelligence?

In order to make it seem like conservatives don't want ANY immigration, the liberal/progressives lump in illegal invasion with legal immigration.  Thus they can make the conservatives look like they are racist, xenophobic knuckle draggers, and instead of having a reasonable discussion just try to make us look bad, and end the argument.  It is a tried, and true primary tactic of the liberal/progressives, and, Michael as do others, use it all the time.   

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Spin Zone / Re: ESPN - the impact of promoting far left ideology
« on: April 26, 2017, 01:23:15 PM »
Quote from: Gary on April 26, 2017, 12:40:32 PM
<slaps forehead> Duh!  Must have gone off on a tangent of logical thinking!!  ;D

I don't care if it is left leaning or right leaning, I just don't want to see, and hear politics when watching/listening to sports.  It is an escape, that's all, and to be bombarded with anything political isn't relaxing.  Just like when Bruce Springsteen gets political at his concerts.  It isn't necessary. 

It just happens it is well known that ESPN, and sports media in general has a liberal/progressive bias, as do many if not most Pro sports leagues. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Can someone explain how anyone could endorse socialism?
« on: April 25, 2017, 03:26:08 PM »
Quote from: Gary on April 25, 2017, 03:12:27 PM
So where will y'all go to find that political satisfaction?  I can understand it when your choice of Party/President doesn't turn out as promised.

Libertarian?  Maybe they don't have cookies, but do have pot!  ;)

Possibly a centrist Republican/Democrat?  That way you can criticize both sides (and take heat from both sides)??

I didn't vote for Trump in the Primary, but did in the General.  I am totally on board with him as our current President, and yes surprised I would ever say that.  Not on board with many of the Republicans in Congress, however.  My problem is the Republicans, except for Trump, and a few others, like their cushy, status quo, big government jobs. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Border Wall
« on: April 25, 2017, 01:10:50 PM »
Quote from: LevelWing on April 25, 2017, 12:59:23 PM
One thing to note from the first article is that this is the first installment of the wall, not the cost of the entire wall. Either way, Paul Ryan is a huge part of the problem with the Republicans right now.

Paul Ryan continues to be a huge disappointment.  I used to like him.  With some minor exceptions, he has proven to be an establishment Republican that enjoys the status quo of big government solutions. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Hannity Goes After Debbie Schlussel
« on: April 25, 2017, 08:21:37 AM »
Quote from: Lucifer on April 25, 2017, 08:05:34 AM
Agreed.  But here recently O'Reilly was really digging in on the Susan Rice scandal.

One of the Murdoch's wives really disliked O'Reilly which weighed in on his ouster.  That and Media Matters really wanted him gone.  It's a huge win for MM and has now empowered them to go after other targets. 

Like I said, this is much bigger than just O'Reilly.

I understand, and it is an indication of the Left's strategy which is to dominate the conversation, and not allow a different viewpoint from theirs.  It is the same as with MMGW, and saying the "debate is over".  We must fight these fascists.   

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Spin Zone / Re: Can someone explain how anyone could endorse socialism?
« on: April 25, 2017, 04:39:03 AM »
Quote from: LevelWing on April 24, 2017, 07:49:12 PM
Perhaps, but the Republicans are experts at defeating themselves every chance they get. They can't get out of their own way to get anything done. The Democrats have a lot of internal party issues, not to mention their ideological issues, but it's hard to fight them when Republicans are too busy fighting themselves.

So far, since Trump has been elected, the Republicans continue to be PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the solution.

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Spin Zone / Re: Mother . . .
« on: April 20, 2017, 02:14:08 PM »
Quote from: nudnik on April 19, 2017, 09:57:56 PM
How is wanting to know a strategy behind fighting a war now suddenly a weed-smokers issue?

Did he want to know Obama's strategy for fighting wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and G*d knows where else?  What was the purpose again?  To get Americans killed?  Now that Trump, a Republican, is President all of a sudden the media, and progressives want to count every missile, and every body.  How many "drone" strikes did Obama approve.  It is easy when some guy is sitting in the basement bunker of some mountain outside of Colorado Springs to kill a few camels, and suspected "terrorists".  What did that accomplish?

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Spin Zone / Re: Fox's Ted Baxter FIRED - Not Fake News
« on: April 20, 2017, 12:59:36 PM »
I have never been an O'Reilly fan, nor a hater either.  When I did use to watch him, he would sometimes seem to have the right perspective on calling people out, both Democrats, and Republicans.  Other times he would show his hand as a classic, inside the NYC bubble Progressive, especially with the 2A, and right to legally bear arms, calling AR-15's "weapons of war", etc.  Also, I did not like him bullying guests, and talking over people all the time.

Although I no longer get Fox, I do like what I have seen of Tucker Carlson, Greg Gutfeld, and Jesse Waters. 

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Spin Zone / Re: Georgia 6th District
« on: April 19, 2017, 01:49:42 PM »
Quote from: nudnik on April 19, 2017, 01:00:48 PM
Ok, go ahead, tell me how you are personally worse off on January 2017 as compared to January 2009.

Are you earning less money? Are you paying a higher % of your salary in federal taxes? What exactly did he do to you?

Personally, I am paying MUCH higher health insurance costs, and much higher out of pocket healthcare costs.  This affects my net disposable income for other essentials.  In addition, the Obama Admin helped create an anti-business, anti-energy, higher regulatory, higher tax environment that has also helped reduce my net disposable income. 

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