PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on February 01, 2021, 06:23:11 AM
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So Xiden and the DCP have halted the wall on the border. The symbolic gesture that left many unemployed, contracts unfulfilled and materials left in place.
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/the-day-the-wall-died/
Just flush the money away, leave the border open and move on. Sheer idiocy.
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I'm confident that all the contracts have cancellation/termination clauses (e.g., termination for Government convenience), which will cost the taxpayers plenty.
And if the media even notices, I'm even more confident that the money wasted paying these termination clauses will be blamed on President Trump.
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This is good news. I need a new house keeper and lawn guy that I can pay below minimum wage. The Americans I am now using charge too much and I have to file 1099s and pay half their SS.
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This is good news. I need a new house keeper and lawn guy that I can pay below minimum wage. The Americans I am now using charge too much and I have to file 1099s and pay half their SS.
Serious questions: You have to pay half of the SS for a 1099 employee? What regulation is that?
(for 1099-NEC "employees"?)
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Serious questions: You have to pay half of the SS for a 1099 employee? What regulation is that?
(for 1099-NEC "employees"?)
No, not for a 1099 employee. I pay the SS for my housekeeper, but give my yard guy a 1099. That is just the way I set them up years ago. Not sure why I did it that way.
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No, not for a 1099 employee. I pay the SS for my housekeeper, but give my yard guy a 1099. That is just the way I set them up years ago. Not sure why I did it that way.
ok. thanks. I wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something. I thought I had a handle on it, but no one really understands all of the IRS regulations...
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ok. thanks. I wanted to make sure I wasn't overlooking something. I thought I had a handle on it, but no one really understands all of the IRS regulations...
To be honest, I think that is how it works. I just give my tax guy all my information and he gives me papers to sign and return and envelopes to give the housekeeper and yard guy. I suppose I really should pay more attention.
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Serious questions: You have to pay half of the SS for a 1099 employee? What regulation is that?
(for 1099-NEC "employees"?)
I think 2020 is the first year for Form 1099-NEC.
Previously non-employee compensation was reported on 1099-MISC.
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No, not for a 1099 employee. I pay the SS for my housekeeper, but give my yard guy a 1099. That is just the way I set them up years ago. Not sure why I did it that way.
Because one is an employee and the other is self employed and you are hiring them as a contractor. There are rules that define these. A cleaning lady for example, if you provide the cleaning supplies, and she only works for you all the time, that’s an employee. If she brings her own vacuum cleaner and squirt stuff, and cleans lots of peoples houses, that’s a contractor, either independently self employed or an employee of a cleaning service.
You have to read the rules and make sure it walks like a duck and squawks like a duck. If I hire a nanny to watch my kids and she comes in my home every day and I supply the location, and she’s not watching anyone else’s kids, I better not try to claim she is an independent contractor. I better pay half her social security and file the 1099. On the other hand if I take my kids to someone else’s house, they supply the location and they might watch other kids too, they are a business, not an employee. It’s up to them to pay all their social security and file with the IRS, I don’t write them a 1099, I just pay them.
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About 47 miles of new wall all told. Rah rah.
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About 47 miles of new wall all told. Rah rah.
453 dumbass.
Of course if you had any reading comprehension skills, the number you just clung to was for wall where no previous barrier was. But under President Trump, even with non ending obstruction by the DCP and the Establishment he got 453 completed which included replacing old ancient worn out barriers with new better barriers.
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453 dumbass.
Of course if you had any reading comprehension skills, the number you just clung to was for wall where no previous barrier was. But under President Trump, even with non ending obstruction by the DCP and the Establishment he got 453 completed which included replacing old ancient worn out barriers with new better barriers.
Yeah, most of it was where the existing structure was "dilapidated". I honestly don't know what that even means. A dilapidated wall is still, a wall. But 47 miles of new barrier at a cost of billions.
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Yeah, most of it was where the existing structure was "dilapidated". I honestly don't know what that even means. A dilapidated wall is still, a wall. But 47 miles of new barrier at a cost of billions.
Your ignorance is astounding.
You don't know what dilapidated means? Seriously?
Here's an example of part of the dilapidated section:
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fvisionsacrossamerica.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F01%2Fimg_03011.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Here's what was built recently
(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwesternnews.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2020%2F10%2F29%2Ftrump_border_wall_13_web_t715.jpg%3F529764a1de2bdd0f74a9fb4f856b01a9d617b3e9&f=1&nofb=1)
Question: Does your university have any fencing or security? Or can just anyone walk up to and walk in a building and walk into a classroom?
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But 47 miles of new barrier at a cost of billions.
Yea, we all know just how fiscally responsible liberals are. I mean, after all, for Covid relief they gave the Kennedy Center $35million, $75 million for arts, $10million for gender studies in Pakistan, $193million for federal AIDS workers stationed abroad to buy new cars, etc, etc.
But no worry, today His Fraudulancy just diverted $30Billion of money earmarked to help farmers to redirect for "climate change" priorities.
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Your ignorance is astounding.
You don't know what dilapidated means? Seriously?
My point was nuanced, which is why it very predictably blew past you. A wall with peeling paint and graffiti could be described as dilapidated, but works fine as a wall. One with crumbling foundations might not. Which the "dilapidated" sections of the wall replaced by the Trump-paid-for-by-Mexico-but-not wall is I don't know, and I'll be you don't either. You think one photograph is indicative of the whole thing.
Question: Does your university have any fencing or security? Or can just anyone walk up to and walk in a building and walk into a classroom?
My University has no security that I know of except the University Police/Rent a cops. During the daytime you can walk into any building on campus including mine. You can walk right into the Hospital and even the Veterinary Hospital. We really can't lock buildings because then we'd have to give the students keys. With 40,000 of them running around that could get a bit pricey. Also, getting students different keys for the buildings they're going to be in every semester isn't likely to be workable. Buildings are locked at night and when classes aren't in session, which really isn't often.
We had a student go nuts and try and murder other students. Made it onto the national and international newshttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658). I was teaching a class of 500 at the time. I stopped, walked out into the hall and realized I couldn't secure the doors, there were a lot of them. I then proceeded outside the building and saw there was an armed policeman right there. I asked him what was going on. He didn't know. I asked him when he was going to move. He said he didn't know, but it wasn't going to be soon. I noticed that there were no signs of violence, and surmised that whatever had caused the hullabaloo was by that time over. I returned to my classroom, told my students that no one was leaving (cop told me to keep them there), and that we were remaining in the lecture hall. I then started teaching Origami to calm them down. I had a couple nervous students ask me if we shouldn't move to somewhere with locked doors. I pointedly asked them where that would be. After I'd taught a couple Origamis the all clear came in (the emergency communication system put in place by my University worked very well) and everyone was asked to go home right now.
The administer in charge of that program was really impressed at how calmly and resourcefully I handled that situation. She had to go to bat for me against some complaints, I think from parents.
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My point was nuanced, which is why it very predictably blew past you. A wall with peeling paint and graffiti could be described as dilapidated, but works fine as a wall. One with crumbling foundations might not. Which the "dilapidated" sections of the wall replaced by the Trump-paid-for-by-Mexico-but-not wall is I don't know, and I'll be you don't either. You think one photograph is indicative of the whole thing.
Again, astounding ignorance on display.
The wall progress plus detailed pics of all the various sections are easily assessable with a google search.
My University has no security that I know of except the University Police/Rent a cops.
So you and the university would have absolutely no problem if homeless people came on campus, moved into buildings and set up home? Free shelter, free heat and AC, hot/cold running water, showers, TV's and probably a tasty assortment of food in the various lounge refrigerators.
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Funny thing, an administration and the DCP hate border fences, but somehow love those fences being placed around PUBLIC buildings. They even go a step further and place armed NG troops to patrol those fences.
How many troops have we seen protecting our borders?
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My point was nuanced, which is why it very predictably blew past you. A wall with peeling paint and graffiti could be described as dilapidated, but works fine as a wall. One with crumbling foundations might not. Which the "dilapidated" sections of the wall replaced by the Trump-paid-for-by-Mexico-but-not wall is I don't know, and I'll be you don't either. You think one photograph is indicative of the whole thing.
My University has no security that I know of except the University Police/Rent a cops. During the daytime you can walk into any building on campus including mine. You can walk right into the Hospital and even the Veterinary Hospital. We really can't lock buildings because then we'd have to give the students keys. With 40,000 of them running around that could get a bit pricey. Also, getting students different keys for the buildings they're going to be in every semester isn't likely to be workable. Buildings are locked at night and when classes aren't in session, which really isn't often.
We had a student go nuts and try and murder other students. Made it onto the national and international newshttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658). I was teaching a class of 500 at the time. I stopped, walked out into the hall and realized I couldn't secure the doors, there were a lot of them. I then proceeded outside the building and saw there was an armed policeman right there. I asked him what was going on. He didn't know. I asked him when he was going to move. He said he didn't know, but it wasn't going to be soon. I noticed that there were no signs of violence, and surmised that whatever had caused the hullabaloo was by that time over. I returned to my classroom, told my students that no one was leaving (cop told me to keep them there), and that we were remaining in the lecture hall. I then started teaching Origami to calm them down. I had a couple nervous students ask me if we shouldn't move to somewhere with locked doors. I pointedly asked them where that would be. After I'd taught a couple Origamis the all clear came in (the emergency communication system put in place by my University worked very well) and everyone was asked to go home right now.
The administer in charge of that program was really impressed at how calmly and resourcefully I handled that situation. She had to go to bat for me against some complaints, I think from parents.
We’re you put up for the Nobel Peace Prize for your Origami under Stress lecture?
Since you are the origami whisperer you may want to go to Afghanistan and Iraq. I hear we have a few men and women about the same age as your students who might experience a little bit of stress, and no doubt an origami lesson while on patrol would be helpful.
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We’re you put up for the Nobel Peace Prize for your Origami under Stress lecture?
Since you are the origami whisperer you may want to go to Afghanistan and Iraq. I hear we have a few men and women about the same age as your students who might experience a little bit of stress, and no doubt an origami lesson while on patrol would be helpful.
"911, What's your emergency?"
"Uh, there's a man outside my house shouting and waving an handgun, and I think he is going to hurt me!"
"OK, do you have some paper and scissors?"
"What??"
"Paper and scissors, I want to talk you through some Origami and try to relieve your stress"
(Sound of phone hanging up)...............
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My point was nuanced, which is why it very predictably blew past you. A wall with peeling paint and graffiti could be described as dilapidated, but works fine as a wall. One with crumbling foundations might not. Which the "dilapidated" sections of the wall replaced by the Trump-paid-for-by-Mexico-but-not wall is I don't know, and I'll be you don't either. You think one photograph is indicative of the whole thing.
My University has no security that I know of except the University Police/Rent a cops. During the daytime you can walk into any building on campus including mine. You can walk right into the Hospital and even the Veterinary Hospital. We really can't lock buildings because then we'd have to give the students keys. With 40,000 of them running around that could get a bit pricey. Also, getting students different keys for the buildings they're going to be in every semester isn't likely to be workable. Buildings are locked at night and when classes aren't in session, which really isn't often.
We had a student go nuts and try and murder other students. Made it onto the national and international newshttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658). I was teaching a class of 500 at the time. I stopped, walked out into the hall and realized I couldn't secure the doors, there were a lot of them. I then proceeded outside the building and saw there was an armed policeman right there. I asked him what was going on. He didn't know. I asked him when he was going to move. He said he didn't know, but it wasn't going to be soon. I noticed that there were no signs of violence, and surmised that whatever had caused the hullabaloo was by that time over. I returned to my classroom, told my students that no one was leaving (cop told me to keep them there), and that we were remaining in the lecture hall. I then started teaching Origami to calm them down. I had a couple nervous students ask me if we shouldn't move to somewhere with locked doors. I pointedly asked them where that would be. After I'd taught a couple Origamis the all clear came in (the emergency communication system put in place by my University worked very well) and everyone was asked to go home right now.
The administer in charge of that program was really impressed at how calmly and resourcefully I handled that situation. She had to go to bat for me against some complaints, I think from parents.
Exactly why concealed carry should be allowed on campus.
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The administer in charge of that program was really impressed at how calmly and resourcefully I handled that situation.
I worship you.
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In Steingar’s defense, the university didn’t allow him to defend the students.
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My point was nuanced, which is why it very predictably blew past you. A wall with peeling paint and graffiti could be described as dilapidated, but works fine as a wall. One with crumbling foundations might not. Which the "dilapidated" sections of the wall replaced by the Trump-paid-for-by-Mexico-but-not wall is I don't know, and I'll be you don't either. You think one photograph is indicative of the whole thing.
My University has no security that I know of except the University Police/Rent a cops. During the daytime you can walk into any building on campus including mine. You can walk right into the Hospital and even the Veterinary Hospital. We really can't lock buildings because then we'd have to give the students keys. With 40,000 of them running around that could get a bit pricey. Also, getting students different keys for the buildings they're going to be in every semester isn't likely to be workable. Buildings are locked at night and when classes aren't in session, which really isn't often.
We had a student go nuts and try and murder other students. Made it onto the national and international newshttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658). I was teaching a class of 500 at the time. I stopped, walked out into the hall and realized I couldn't secure the doors, there were a lot of them. I then proceeded outside the building and saw there was an armed policeman right there. I asked him what was going on. He didn't know. I asked him when he was going to move. He said he didn't know, but it wasn't going to be soon. I noticed that there were no signs of violence, and surmised that whatever had caused the hullabaloo was by that time over. I returned to my classroom, told my students that no one was leaving (cop told me to keep them there), and that we were remaining in the lecture hall. I then started teaching Origami to calm them down. I had a couple nervous students ask me if we shouldn't move to somewhere with locked doors. I pointedly asked them where that would be. After I'd taught a couple Origamis the all clear came in (the emergency communication system put in place by my University worked very well) and everyone was asked to go home right now.
The administer in charge of that program was really impressed at how calmly and resourcefully I handled that situation. She had to go to bat for me against some complaints, I think from parents.
Our hero.
Your students would have been safer if you were packing.
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Our hero.
Your students would have been safer if you were packing.
That’s exactly my point, but universities won’t let him. Well I take that back, I don’t remember where he teaches, if I ever knew.
https://concealedcampus.org/2020/02/how-many-states-allow-campus-carry/
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In Steingar’s defense, the university didn’t allow him to defend the students.
https://youtu.be/4trn2lJxl00
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https://youtu.be/4trn2lJxl00
That was a real lion skin he wore. You wouldn’t be able to do that these days.
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The real story about the wall is easy to understand.
When you look at the concentration style wall of wire and fencing that
went up around the capitol so pedo joe and the ho could ascend to their
stolen offices you know they LOVE walls.
The communist party (democrats) can't win legal elections.
Illegal votes are their only pathway to stealing and remaining in power.
Letting in lots and lots of non citizens and handing them pre filled ballots
is almost their only pathway to staying out of prison.
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The real story about the wall is easy to understand.
When you look at the concentration style wall of wire and fencing that
went up around the capitol so pedo joe and the ho could ascend to their
stolen offices you know they LOVE walls.
The communist party (democrats) can't win legal elections.
Illegal votes are their only pathway to stealing and remaining in power.
Letting in lots and lots of non citizens and handing them pre filled ballots
is almost their only pathway to staying out of prison.
This. Expect covid hysteria to continue to justify universal mail in ballots until they get that codified which is about to happen. We are now a one party totalitarian state.
Never thought I’d see this in my lifetime.
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This. Expect covid hysteria to continue to justify universal mail in ballots until they get that codified which is about to happen. We are now a one party totalitarian state.
Never thought I’d see this in my lifetime.
I'm still going with secession. The free states aren't going to go along with this.
Think about it, we watched the soviet union break up which no one thought would happen. Recently we watched Brexit, which we were warned would be catastrophic, yet it happened and none of the dire predictions happened.
What we are seeing happen is that China is and will become the world's superpower. The election scam of 2020 has secured that for them, and they are not going to let this moment slip away.
Within this decade the map of North America is going to change dramatically. So too will other regions of the world.
If you are a resident of a free state, you are in a good position for the changes. If you are a resident of one of the blue shitholes, your future looks bleak (think of the old Eastern Germany).
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Your students would have been safer if you were packing.
probably not. Barney Fife would probably be a better shot.
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I'm still going with secession. The free states aren't going to go along with this.
Think about it, we watched the soviet union break up which no one thought would happen. Recently we watched Brexit, which we were warned would be catastrophic, yet it happened and none of the dire predictions happened.
What we are seeing happen is that China is and will become the world's superpower. The election scam of 2020 has secured that for them, and they are not going to let this moment slip away.
Within this decade the map of North America is going to change dramatically. So too will other regions of the world.
If you are a resident of a free state, you are in a good position for the changes. If you are a resident of one of the blue shitholes, your future looks bleak (think of the old Eastern Germany).
We keep going back and forth about this and I hope you are right but I still picture the evil ones coming into the free states with tanks like Tiananmen Square.
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We keep going back and forth about this and I hope you are right but I still picture the evil ones coming into the free states with tanks like Tiananmen Square.
Many of the free states have better arsenals, better equipment and troops that like the idea of freedom. ;)
Not so much in the blue shitholes, where they divert money and resources away to pet projects.
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Again, astounding ignorance on display.
The wall progress plus detailed pics of all the various sections are easily assessable with a google search.
The barriers span hundred of miles. Hard to believe detailed photos of anything that large would be "easily accessible" just because there would be so many photos to review.
So you and the university would have absolutely no problem if homeless people came on campus, moved into buildings and set up home? Free shelter, free heat and AC, hot/cold running water, showers, TV's and probably a tasty assortment of food in the various lounge refrigerators.
As I said, buildings are locked when classes aren't in session. Strangers aren't allowed into dormitories either, for what I hope are obvious reasons. There is a resident police force as well.
Of course, when I was a student all this was operant as well. Back then the neighborhoods south of campus were quite seedy, and we did get the occasional homeless denizens. One of them actually found his way into the building where my research animals were housed. One of the faculty was doing research on the syrinxes of large birds, and he had a few in the room next to my tortoises. Apparently those birds scared the bejesus out of the homeless guy, and he smashed everything. Thankfully the tortoises weren't harmed. I bet the birds started the whole thing, they were vicious.
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Exactly why concealed carry should be allowed on campus.
Why? We have our own private police force. Like I said, while all this was going on there was an armed police officer right outside my building. I'd rather have a police officer trained in firearms than me trained in genetics. Personally I think having a professor blasting away in a room full of undergraduates has to be the dumbest idea I've heard all year.
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The barriers span hundred of miles. Hard to believe detailed photos of anything that large would be "easily accessible" just because there would be so many photos to review.
Because you lack the basic skills to do internet searches doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
As I said, buildings are locked when classes aren't in session. Strangers aren't allowed into dormitories either, for what I hope are obvious reasons. There is a resident police force as well.
Why? Don't these refugees deserve to have access? Why do you and your university discriminate against them? After all, they just want a better life.
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Why? We have our own private police force. Like I said, while all this was going on there was an armed police officer right outside my building. I'd rather have a police officer trained in firearms than me trained in genetics. Personally I think having a professor blasting away in a room full of undergraduates has to be the dumbest idea I've heard all year.
You believe the police will intervene if there’s a shooter? Exactly how naive are you?
If you’re concept of self defense is “blasting away,” then you’re right, you probably shouldn’t carry.
Let a student retain his natural right to self defense however, and he or she might protect your sorry ass. Or not.
I was robbed at gunpoint around 1990. I will never, ever, stand still waiting to know if a drugged out hood rat will pull the trigger, or wait until the police show up. They won’t.
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Why? We have our own private police force. Like I said, while all this was going on there was an armed police officer right outside my building. I'd rather have a police officer trained in firearms than me trained in genetics. Personally I think having a professor blasting away in a room full of undergraduates has to be the dumbest idea I've heard all year.
Blasting away? Said twice. Are you trying to further reinforce that you know absolutely nothing about firearms and using them in legitimate, and legal self defense?
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I question whether POS thinks he couldn't possibly acquire appropriate proper firearm use/handling skills.
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Why? We have our own private police force. Like I said, while all this was going on there was an armed police officer right outside my building.
The police are under no obligation to protect you. The only one who can protect you is YOU.
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Why? We have our own private police force. Like I said, while all this was going on there was an armed police officer right outside my building. I'd rather have a police officer trained in firearms than me trained in genetics. Personally I think having a professor blasting away in a room full of undergraduates has to be the dumbest idea I've heard all year.
So you think that fighting back with a gun is dumber than getting killed? Ok, I respect that for you. Why can't you respect that other people don't want to be victims and want to fight back? Why do you want to limit their ability to defend themselves? If they are killed because YOU supported disarming them, don't you bear some of the responsibility for their death?
Your language here is particularly obtuse. Nobody is suggesting to have a professor "blasting away in a room full of undergraduates" and the phrasing of that is clumsy and makes you look particularly unaware. Nobody who is trained with using a gun would even draw a weapon in a room full of undergraduates without a very good reason. When you own a gun, when you carry, you own every round that leaves your gun. If I screw up and shoot someone that I don't intend to, I expect to go down for it. That makes my safety and, if necessary, my target selection a very careful and considered process.
If you're not up to that, good for you. But you don't have the right to decide that for me, you just revealed that you aren't qualified.
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Why? We have our own private police force. Like I said, while all this was going on there was an armed police officer right outside my building. I'd rather have a police officer trained in firearms than me trained in genetics. Personally I think having a professor blasting away in a room full of undergraduates has to be the dumbest idea I've heard all year.
I hate to tell you, there's a good chance that armed rent-a-cop is less skilled with a firearm than I am, and I'm a sedentary cerebral slug if ever there was one. My daughters when in college shot pistol competition with me and if concealed carry by students had been allowed, they would have been extremely well trained defenders of all the lives in the room.
There are three kinds of people in the world, those who want someone else to defend them, those who take responsibility for their own self defense, and predators. I guess you're the first sort. You depend on the second sort to keep you safe from the third. Nothing at all wrong with that. Not everyone wants to get skilled at firearms. What I have a problem with is you telling me that I have to be the first sort too, and must rely on uniformed officers instead of my own self, to defend my life.
When in public or any gathering, I feel safest when I know there are random citizens around me legally armed and trained. That they are stealth mode is even better. The evil guy won't know who will be shooting at him.
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You believe the police will intervene if there’s a shooter? Exactly how naive are you?
OMG you really are that stupid. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658)
The man was shot within a minute by the campus police.
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So you think that fighting back with a gun is dumber than getting killed? Ok, I respect that for you. Why can't you respect that other people don't want to be victims and want to fight back? Why do you want to limit their ability to defend themselves? If they are killed because YOU supported disarming them, don't you bear some of the responsibility for their death?
Your language here is particularly obtuse. Nobody is suggesting to have a professor "blasting away in a room full of undergraduates" and the phrasing of that is clumsy and makes you look particularly unaware. Nobody who is trained with using a gun would even draw a weapon in a room full of undergraduates without a very good reason. When you own a gun, when you carry, you own every round that leaves your gun. If I screw up and shoot someone that I don't intend to, I expect to go down for it. That makes my safety and, if necessary, my target selection a very careful and considered process.
If you're not up to that, good for you. But you don't have the right to decide that for me, you just revealed that you aren't qualified.
Why your dumbass idea is just that. Those trained in firearm use, such as LEOs and soldiers, usually miss at first blush. Adrenaline and its effects on the human nervous system. Obviously you all think you're badasses, but I bet ca$h money that you'd miss if you had to pull on an unexpected assailant. Now, place yourself in a classroom in front of hundreds of now panicking undergraduates. I'll rely on the campus cops, thank you. They're track record recently isn't half bad.
My approach would be deescalation as a primary strategy. If someone robs me at gunpoint they can have my wallet, phone and whatever else they want. I will never risk my neck to protect insured property, I think it the height of idiocy. I can buy a new phone, replace my wallet and whatever else I'm carrying. I can't buy a new me.
Moreover the presence of a firearm on my person at my place of employment would be cause for instant dismissal. I will happily focus on my continued employment at the expense of a multi caliber security blanket.
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steingar is a troll....
steingar is a troll...
steingar is a troll....
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.
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OMG you really are that stupid. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38136658)
The man was shot within a minute by the campus police.
He was outside on the street with a butcher knife. Brave shoot.
In the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas high school shooting, the school resource officer HID OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL while 17 people were being slaughtered inside. 3 other arriving deputies also hid behind their cars, not wanting to enter. The teachers and students were on their own. No help was coming for them.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/four-sheriffs-deputies-hid-during-florida-school-shooting/
You may relish the status, but I refuse to be a victim.
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Personally I think having a professor blasting away in a room full of undergraduates has to be the dumbest idea I've heard all year.
But in a room full of grad students....
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Why your dumbass idea is just that. Those trained in firearm use, such as LEOs and soldiers, usually miss at first blush. Adrenaline and its effects on the human nervous system. Obviously you all think you're badasses, but I bet ca$h money that you'd miss if you had to pull on an unexpected assailant. Now, place yourself in a classroom in front of hundreds of now panicking undergraduates. I'll rely on the campus cops, thank you. They're track record recently isn't half bad.
You say, “those trained in firearm use, such as LEOs and soldiers” ...as if private citizens that carry guns aren’t trained in firearm use.
You practice partial panel don’t you? Why do you bother? If you lose part of the panel in IMC, the adrenaline is just going to have you messing up anyway, right? By your logic you might as well not try to prepare for that. In fact, maybe you need to keep a “professional” (paid by some institution) pilot with you at all times in case of malfunction, because the fact that they have a uniform makes them better.
Adrenaline and it’s effects are why you practice over and over. The more you practice simulated scenarios the more likely you are to perform well in a real life situation. Competitive shooter private citizens are very well practiced. Police on the other hand are constrained by department ammunition costs, unavailability of range time, and a reluctance to spend off duty time doing job related stuff. Unless they are into shooting sports themselves; we had some officers at our matches.
My approach would be deescalation as a primary strategy. If someone robs me at gunpoint they can have my wallet, phone and whatever else they want. I will never risk my neck to protect insured property, I think it the height of idiocy. I can buy a new phone, replace my wallet and whatever else I'm carrying. I can't buy a new me.
How do you feel about being raped? Is your back door insured?
Moreover the presence of a firearm on my person at my place of employment would be cause for instant dismissal. I will happily focus on my continued employment at the expense of a multi caliber security blanket.
Are you saying if they allowed it you would consider it?
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My approach would be deescalation as a primary strategy. If someone robs me at gunpoint they can have my wallet, phone and whatever else they want. I will never risk my neck to protect insured property, I think it the height of idiocy. I can buy a new phone, replace my wallet and whatever else I'm carrying. I can't buy a new me.
What gives you such a warm and fuzzy feeling that that’s all they’ll take? Plenty of people are murdered because the perp didn’t want a witness, or just for the sport of it. Murder, rape, and savagery are initiation rights in certain street gangs.
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When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
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He was outside on the street with a butcher knife. Brave shoot.
In the Marjorie Stoneman Douglas high school shooting, the school resource officer HID OUTSIDE THE SCHOOL while 17 people were being slaughtered inside. 3 other arriving deputies also hid behind their cars, not wanting to enter. The teachers and students were on their own. No help was coming for them.
https://nypost.com/2018/02/23/four-sheriffs-deputies-hid-during-florida-school-shooting/
You may relish the status, but I refuse to be a victim.
You are arguing with a cardboard cutout.
steingar NEVER thinks.
He just repeats other people's words and PRETENDS they are his.
Thinking is just not allowed among his set of pathetic, pussies.
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Why we need walls:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/border-patrol-agents-arrest-11-iranians-in-arizona-who-illegally-entered-us_3685335.html
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You say, “those trained in firearm use, such as LEOs and soldiers” ...as if private citizens that carry guns aren’t trained in firearm use.
Additionally, there are veterans who have been trained in firearms. Do they suddenly become ignorant of RoEs and legal use of force?
I believe that a major way to stop crime is to include constitutional carry nationwide, which much stronger penalties for illegal use. That's probably a bridge too far for Leftists who depend on a meek citizenry for their cause to thrive. A compromise would be to give nationwide constitutional carry for honorably discharged veterans, with required ongoing training and clear rules for engagement.
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Additionally, there are veterans who have been trained in firearms. Do they suddenly become ignorant of RoEs and legal use of force?
I believe that a major way to stop crime is to include constitutional carry nationwide, which much stronger penalties for illegal use. That's probably a bridge too far for Leftists who depend on a meek citizenry for their cause to thrive. A compromise would be to give nationwide constitutional carry for honorably discharged veterans, with required ongoing training and clear rules for engagement.
The evidence is incontrovertible. Where carry is legal, crime is less. Why are there so many school shootings? Because they are "gun free" zones. Safe for the criminal. Target rich.
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What gives you such a warm and fuzzy feeling that that’s all they’ll take? Plenty of people are murdered because the perp didn’t want a witness, or just for the sport of it. Murder, rape, and savagery are initiation rights in certain street gangs.
Wasn’t it Di-Fi who proclaimed that she was certain that all criminals would stop using guns if everyone else was forbidden to own them?
Liberals are THAT stupid... and steingar is at the front of that pack of assholes.
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Wasn’t it Di-Fi who proclaimed that she was certain that all criminals would stop using guns if everyone else was forbidden to own them?
Liberals are THAT stupid... and steingar is at the front of that pack of assholes.
Even if that's true, criminals are resourceful. In England and Wales: "There were 43,516 knife crime offenses in the 12 months ending March 2019". Just because there are no guns doesn't mean that there is no violence. And considering England's smaller population, that's a LOT of knife offenses per capita. Maybe they should declare knife-free zones? That will end all that knife violence. However, chopping cabbage may be difficult.
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You say, “those trained in firearm use, such as LEOs and soldiers” ...as if private citizens that carry guns aren’t trained in firearm use.
You practice partial panel don’t you? Why do you bother? If you lose part of the panel in IMC, the adrenaline is just going to have you messing up anyway, right? By your logic you might as well not try to prepare for that. In fact, maybe you need to keep a “professional” (paid by some institution) pilot with you at all times in case of malfunction, because the fact that they have a uniform makes them better.
Adrenaline and it’s effects are why you practice over and over. The more you practice simulated scenarios the more likely you are to perform well in a real life situation. Competitive shooter private citizens are very well practiced. Police on the other hand are constrained by department ammunition costs, unavailability of range time, and a reluctance to spend off duty time doing job related stuff. Unless they are into shooting sports themselves; we had some officers at our matches.
How do you feel about being raped? Is your back door insured?
Are you saying if they allowed it you would consider it?
At my gun club which is large, some of the cops are the worst with handling and shooting guns because they only do it once a year to qualify shooting at paper targets. Some also have poor safety records too and have been banned from the club.
So, as usual Steingar is talking out if his ass again.
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Even if that's true, criminals are resourceful. In England and Wales: "There were 43,516 knife crime offenses in the 12 months ending March 2019". Just because there are no guns doesn't mean that there is no violence. And considering England's smaller population, that's a LOT of knife offenses per capita. Maybe they should declare knife-free zones? That will end all that knife violence. However, chopping cabbage may be difficult.
Oh they're on that:
https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives
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Wasn’t it Di-Fi who proclaimed that she was certain that all criminals would stop using guns if everyone else was forbidden to own them?
Even if that's true, criminals are resourceful. Maybe they should declare knife-free zones? That will end all that knife violence.
Oh they're on that
Excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong, but after banning every conceivable weapon, isn't that how martial arts started because they couldn't ban hands?
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A compromise would be to give nationwide constitutional carry for honorably discharged veterans, with required ongoing training and clear rules for engagement.
Don't they already have that right, without the required ongoing training? What you are compromising is the 2nd A.
If the left wants to infringe on the right to bear arms, they should be required to pass a Constitutional Amendment to overturn 2A.
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Don't they already have that right, without the required ongoing training? What you are compromising is the 2nd A.
If the left wants to infringe on the right to bear arms, they should be required to pass a Constitutional Amendment to overturn 2A.
We all should already have that right. Ok, we do and we've been screwed out of it.
The "can't infringe at all on bearing arms" was screwed up a long time ago.
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We all should already have that right. Ok, we do and we've been screwed out of it.
The "can't infringe at all on bearing arms" was screwed up a long time ago.
Boy ain’t that the truth. While it properly reinforced that the RKBA was an individual right, in some ways Scalia screwed us on Heller by allowing “some” regulation. Left the barn door wide open pretty much whatever some retarded blue municipality wanted to do to restrict the RKBA.
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We all should already have that right. Ok, we do and we've been screwed out of it.
The "can't infringe at all on bearing arms" was screwed up a long time ago.
ALL gun laws at the Fed, State and Local levels are ILLEGAL INFRINGEMENTS. All 22,000 of them.
The Courts have screwed us. We allow it by not revolting.
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ALL gun laws at the Fed, State and Local levels are ILLEGAL INFRINGEMENTS. All 22,000 of them.
The Courts have screwed us. We allow it by not revolting.
The frog boil by slowly turning up the heat.
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All rights are constrained. No right is completely unlimited.
My right to life does not allow me to force you to give up a kidney so that I can live.... or allow me to steal from you.
Having said that, if the anti-gun freaks want to constrain/limit my rights acknowledged by the 2nd amendment, they need to show how my having a gun infringes on the rights of anyone else.
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All rights are constrained. No right is completely unlimited.
My right to life does not allow me to force you to give up a kidney so that I can live.... or allow me to steal from you.
Having said that, if the anti-gun freaks want to constrain/limit my rights acknowledged by the 2nd amendment, they need to show how my having a gun infringes on the rights of anyone else.
The gun is just an object. They want to CONTROL and SUBJUGATE YOU. That's all. Been happening since the beginning of Man.
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https://www.newsmax.com/politics/texas-greg-abbott-gun-rights-second-amendment/2021/02/08/id/1009050/
As the legislature in Austin returns for its first session since the mass shootings in El Paso and Midland-Odessa, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott has vowed to do everything he can to defend gun rights in the state, the Fort-Worth Star-Telegram reported on Monday.
Abbott promised “to erect a complete barrier against any government office anywhere from treading on gun rights in Texas. Texas must be a Second Amendment sanctuary state.”
The governor, whose state has 3,000 people a year killed by a gun, said that “Politicians from the federal level to the local level have shouted: ‘Heck yes, the government is coming to get your guns,’” but vowed that “we won’t let that happen in Texas.”
When asked about measures offered by gun safety advocates such as “red flag” laws or universal background checks, Abbott emphasized that “the goal that I’m seeking to achieve is to do the maximum to protect Second Amendment Rights.”
He elaborated on what he meant by a Second Amendment sanctuary state, telling the Star-Telegram.that “It would be a law that would prohibit any … state or local government official from doing anything to implement any law, state or federal, that would take guns away from any Texan.”
Some gun advocates and legislators who favor gun safety measures were let down that Abbott played up Second Amendment rights while not even mentioning the recent mass shootings.
Democrat state Rep. Chris Turner said, “There was frankly a time where there was some decent bipartisan conversation going on around some of those issues in the wake of the mass shootings in El Paso and Odessa in 2019. So, it’s unfortunate the governor hasn’t sought to continue that.”