PILOT SPIN
Spin Zone => Spin Zone => Topic started by: Lucifer on August 23, 2020, 07:22:17 AM
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We are just over 2 months from the election. In many areas early voting will begin in about 6 weeks.
So what lies ahead? The progressive liberals have hammered a fake impeachment, followed by their scamdemic, followed by their ANTIFA and BLM riots, all while destroying the various cities and states which they preside over.
The next play coming is election chaos. Several states are now going with mail in voting (not to be confused with absentee voting). In this grand plan ballots will be mailed to everyone on the voter registration roles of that state. So official ballots will flood the post office outbound and inbound.
Expect several states to reduce polling places because of "the pandemic" and implement strict poll procedures, such as "social distancing" and a wipe down of the polling booth after each use. This will create very long lines and make the process even more tedious and, hopefully (by the dims) discourage voters.
On election night don't plan on seeing a winner. Nope, too many votes mailed in, and will take days, if not weeks, to tabulate. Expect to see lawfare put into place. Lawsuits demanding to count votes arriving late, etc.
Which takes us to the next plan. On December 18th each state should have it's SOS certify the election results, which in turn determines who the electors will be to the electoral college. Plan on several states missing that deadline.
Why? Simple. Without several states making the deadline, and unable to select electors, this will create a problem in the electoral college that meets January 6th. One candidate will have to acquire 270 votes to become President. If that is not reached, the constitution then moves the election to congress to select the next President and Vice President.
The constitution says the House (the new congress just voted in) will select the President by voting by state delegations (1 vote per state). The senate will vote on the vice President (newly elected senate).
See where this is going? With many states in election chaos, selecting and seating representatives and senators will be in turmoil, and make have to go to their respective governors and legislatures. This also will remove the votes of the American people and place them squarely in the establishment class of government.
So now several scenarios play out. If the democrats keep congress, then Biden will be selected President, if they take the senate, then Harris will be selected VP.
But what if by chance the republicans take the house? Figure the RINO establishment types in the equation, but for sake of argument let's say they select Trump. Now the democrats will have the argument that yes, once again, Trump is an illegitimate President.
Go a bit further, let's say congress goes republican and the senate goes democrat (or even republican, but by only 2 seats). At that point we could realistically see Trump as President and Harris as Vice President.
How long do you think it will take to see the democrats attempting to remove Trump, once again?
This is what we have coming folks.
Disclaimer* I haven't verified dates. But the premise of how the constitution will address this is correct.
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The "Like" is not for the scenario, but for the way you described it. We're in for a shitshow.
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The "Like" is not for the scenario, but for the way you described it. We're in for a shitshow.
Yes we are. It can be averted, but the Trump supporting republicans need a massive ground game in place now.
My bet is we are going to see congress select the President.
Also don’t forget, we’re gonna see the Chinese flood our post office with phony ballots just to further create chaos.
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It would seem that if the SOS of each state could certify the results for their Representatives and Senators (Federal level) they could also certify the results for President and Vice President. So if a new President and Vice President could not be selected neither could the Congress Critters. Am I missing something here?
I do agree this will be the MOST fucked up election up until now. We have been working towards this for some years now in my opinion.
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It would seem that if the SOS of each state could certify the results for their Representatives and Senators (Federal level) they could also certify the results for President and Vice President. So if a new President and Vice President could not be selected neither could the Congress Critters. Am I missing something here?
I do agree this will be the MOST fucked up election up until now. We have been working towards this for some years now in my opinion.
Think about it. If they can’t (each state) certify the representatives, then it goes to either the governor or legislature to appoint someone. Gee, how convenient, especially in a Democrat controlled state.
We are about to witness history, in a bad way.
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Think about it. If they can’t (each state) certify the representatives, then it goes to either the governor or legislature to appoint someone. Gee, how convenient, especially in a Democrat controlled state.
We are about to witness history, in a bad way.
My fear also. This is akin to a revolution or Coup by the Democrats, funded by the Chinese, Soiros and others.
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My fear also. This is akin to a revolution or Coup by the Democrats, funded by the Chinese, Soiros and others.
Problem is, it will follow the constitution.
It’s being enabled by the scamdemic and “vote by mail”.
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The hope we can have, and I think it is a legitimate hope rather than being pollyanna, is that the so-called MSM doesn't really have their finger on the pulse of all people across our country. Kind of like all the experts calling the 2016 election for the CAB instead of listening to people.
Having said that, I think it's important that people get out and vote. In some ways, Voter apathy is worse for this country that the garbage spewed by the democrat.
Every legitimate voter should vote. Even in places like Maskachusetts where the presidential vote will certainly go for gropin' joe, every legitimate voter should vote.
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Problem is, it will follow the constitution.
It’s being enabled by the scamdemic and “vote by mail”.
That's why we have guns.
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That's why we have guns.
one reason
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The hope we can have, and I think it is a legitimate hope rather than being pollyanna, is that the so-called MSM doesn't really have their finger on the pulse of all people across our country. Kind of like all the experts calling the 2016 election for the CAB instead of listening to people.
Having said that, I think it's important that people get out and vote. In some ways, Voter apathy is worse for this country that the garbage spewed by the democrat.
Every legitimate voter should vote. Even in places like Maskachusetts where the presidential vote will certainly go for gropin' joe, every legitimate voter should vote.
Voter apathy is why we have career politicians in congress and the senate. Voter apathy is why we have a $27 trillion dollar debt and never a balanced budget.
Voter apathy is leading us right to what will unfold in November. By allowing these progressive communist to run major states and cities, then place edicts requiring "vote by mail" in which they know exactly the outcome.
The progressive communist are incensed that the average person is allowed to vote, and they are really upset that their candidate lost in 2016 after being promised by the MSM she was next. Make no mistake, what is about to unfold has been in the works since 2016 as an "insurance policy" in case all the other attempts to get Trump out of office failed.
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What swing states are going to do vote by mail?
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What swing states are going to do vote by mail?
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/513098-how-six-key-swing-states-handle-voting-by-mail
Note: The Hill is a left wing publication. They are conflating vote by mail and absentee voting.
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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/how-nevada-became-key-proving-ground-democrats-national-mail-ballot-push
With the 2020 General Election getting ever closer, America is about to embark on a challenging journey never before seen in this country: widespread universal mail-in balloting in the age of COVID-19.
Rather than just simply showing up at the polls this year, voters in nine states and the District of Columbia will actually receive ballots in the mail, making this the most robust, and potentially problematic vote-by-mail effort ever in our nation’s history.
Proponents of the controversial practice say providing this new stricture is a matter of life and death.
“You shouldn't have to put your life at risk in order to exercise your constitutional right to vote,” Nevada Assembly Speaker Jason Frierson says. “We're at an unusual time with the national pandemic and I think that we needed to make sure that folks who are eligible are able to vote safe.”
Frierson authored a controversial bill, now a law in Nevada, that guarantees every active registered voter will get a ballot in the mail because a statewide disaster or emergency declaration has been issued.
President Trump called the bill a, “disgrace," and the Trump administration is suing, arguing that it “upends Nevada’s election laws and requires massive changes in election procedures and processes, makes voter fraud and other ineligible voting inevitable.”
The legal action also highlights language in the bill that they believe unconstitutionally extends the deadline for Election Day. A provision makes it allowable for ballots with unclear postmark dates to be accepted up to three days after Election Day.
Frierson says this is all much to do about nothing. “We will have a process in place where we will count the ballots that were cast on or before Election Day," he tells Just The News. “If there's a discrepancy afterwards, we're letting our local election officials adjust and make sure that they are addressing that discrepancy but only for ballots that were cast on or before Election Day.”
Of course that begs the question: who are these local officials who will be entrusted with deciding what ballots are valid and which ones are not. “I think that we are creating a problem that doesn't exist,” Frierson says. “We are not in the Florida, ‘hanging chad’ era here.”
Part of the other problem in the law, according to conservative critics, is the issue of ballot harvesting, in which a third party is allowed to deliver or submit a ballot on another’s behalf. It’s legal in California and now it’s lawful in Nevada as well.
At the national level, since the coronavirus pandemic began, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and congressional Democrats have been trying to push through funding for ballot harvesting but it hasn’t gone anywhere.
Still, Frierson, who was able to get it passed in Nevada, sees nothing wrong with it. “I think it's a cry to mischaracterize what it is,” he says. “It's simply assistance. It’s assisting somebody making sure it gets delivered.”
With six electoral votes up for grabs, Nevada will be a key state in 2020. Hillary Clinton barely beat Donald Trump here in 2016: just two percentage points separated them.
Every vote will be critical, and that’s why Democrats like Frierson are looking to give certain voters a boost. He says there are people that don't have transportation, access to the Internet or the means to get to the polls in person, not to mention those who won’t want to wait in anticipated long lines.
“There are people that are not going to be willing to wait in line for hours, which is why we were motivated to make a change and expand access to the polls.” But if people are willing to wait in line at places like Walmart, why should a voting station be different? “I missed the part of the constitution that says you have the constitutional right to go to Walmart,” Frierson says. “We're talking about a constitutional right here.”
Mailing voters ballots has some serious fraud issues attached to it. A Pew Research Center study shows roughly 24 million voter registrations are no longer valid.
“Now you've got tens of millions of ballots that are not going to actual voters, which is going to create tens of millions of ballots and create opportunities for fraud,” says Eric Eggers, author of the book, “Fraud: How the Left Plans to Steal the Next Election."
Compounding the problem is the fact that universal mail-in balloting is much different than absentee balloting, a system that has been in place for decades with a higher threshold of checks and balances.
“There’s a difference between requesting and using an absentee ballot in the manner in which our current democratic systems are set up,” Eggers says. “Mailing everyone, whether they requested a ballot or not is a very different scenario.”
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Vote by mail is an effing disaster. The only reason the Democrats are pushing for it so hard is that they can steal the election. This is NOT what our Republic was meant to be. They want to be the new Royalty, and undermine the Rights of citizens. It may be getting to the point where the common man may have to risk his/her wealth, property, safety and security to make the point that we want to remain at least somewhat "free".
Those Tesla and Volvo driving suburbanites that now vote Democrat because they feel so enlightened and Progressive are a huge problem. They seem to be clueless about the Marxism they so adore and have been brainwashed into being self loathing over White guilt.
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Vote by mail is an effing disaster. The only reason the Democrats are pushing for it so hard is that they can steal the election. This is NOT what our Republic was meant to be. They want to be the new Royalty, and undermine the Rights of citizens. It may be getting to the point where the common man may have to risk his/her wealth, property, safety and security to make the point that we want to remain at least somewhat "free".
Those Tesla and Volvo driving suburbanites that now vote Democrat because they feel so enlightened and Progressive are a huge problem. They seem to be clueless about the Marxism they so adore and have been brainwashed into being self loathing over White guilt.
If this happens, and right now I believe it will, we will never see another fair election. Just as the progressive's have their newfound chapter on scamdemics, they will have an even newer chapter on election fraud, and they will quickly enshrine into state laws vote by mail schemes, and this will become the new norm.
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We were talking to some friends from Central Illinois this weekend. Their 26-year old daughter lives in an apartment in Bloomington IL. Last week she received a mailing offering to send an absentee ballot to her, along with the same mailing for the last two tenants of that apartment. If she was dishonest she could cast 3 votes because of this planned scam.
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We were talking to some friends from Central Illinois this weekend. Their 26-year old daughter lives in an apartment in Bloomington IL. Last week she received a mailing offering to send an absentee ballot to her, along with the same mailing for the last two tenants of that apartment. If she was dishonest she could cast 3 votes because of this planned scam.
Yep. There is going to be a flood of mail in ballots. How do you go through all of them to make sure the person that voted is the person on the ballot? How do you delete duplicates? By mailing to everyone on the voter rolls, there are thousands, if not millions of ballots going out to people no longer there. How do you keep these votes from being counted?
And don't forget, this is creating an opportunity for a foreign government to flood our postal system with phony ballots.
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And don't forget, this is creating an opportunity for a foreign government to flood our postal system with phony ballots.
Forget about foreign governments, how do we stop the DNC from flooding the postal system with phony ballots?
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Forget about foreign governments, how do we stop the DNC from flooding the postal system with phony ballots?
In Oregon every mailed ballot has a unique bar code on it. If a voter asks for a new one the old bar code value becomes invalid. The bar code is machine checked on receipt. I believe the signature is manually cross-checked with the signature on file. If other states follow at least those basic steps the possibility of external interference becomes a bit less possible.
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Forget about foreign governments, how do we stop the DNC from flooding the postal system with phony ballots?
They are already doing it. By mailing ballots to people who no longer live at the address, or have died, is the same thing. Stan nailed it, you can have people receiving multiple ballots at their address, so they can in theory vote several times.
This will open up lawfare, which is the next part of all of this. Look for an army of lawyers filing lawsuits in every state demanding all ballots be counted. This will create such a mess, many states will not make a certification deadline, hence effecting the outcome of the electoral college and throwing the election to congress.